Apparently, it is only stated that they are specifically designed for Japanese market. Not sure about whether it will be release internationally with different design (Xperia S for example). Well, if it is the same design as these pictures below, I would be disappointed. Looks much uglier than S and Ion (Though GX has the convex back like Arc and SX front looks somehow resemble to iPhone 4).
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Key features for Xperia GX
131 × 69 × 8.6mm
4.6” Reality Display powered by Mobile BRAVIA Engine for razor-sharp
clarity.
1.5GHz dual-core processor for faster performance.
16GB internal flash storage.
13MP camera with Sony Exmor R for mobile, HD video recording, and Sony
technology to take 3D panoramic images.
Launching on Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich.
Available in white and black.
Key features for Xperia SX
115 × 54 × 9.4mm
World’s lightest LTE smartphone, weighing only 95g.
3.7” Reality Display with Mobile BRAVIA Engine.
1.5GHz dual-core processor for faster performance.
8GB internal flash storage.
8MP camera with Sony Exmor R for mobile, HD video recording, and Sony
technology to take 3D panoramic images.
Japanese specific features such as infrared port data exchange, mobile
wallet and mobile TV.
Launching on Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich.
Available in black and white
For more info, check this
The GX seems like a minor upgrade for the S. Wonder why GX and SX and not the other way around... Anyway, I'm waiting for ARMv8 phones now
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The GX seems like a minor upgrade for the S. Wonder why GX and SX and not the other way around... Anyway, I'm waiting for ARMv8 phones now
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Not really minor, Qualcomm S3 of XPS is nothing compared to other dual-core, but Qualcomm S4 is the king of dual-core right now
The screen size is also larger with very marginal increase in size (128mm -> 131mm in height)
So there's no any news about the SD card slot?cause If it has like SD card slot that'd be epic..
haha what minor update??seriously then why does it score alot better than tegra 3? that's funny.
GX just made me wow, effin' love it
hope it sees international release sometime soon, I'm really looking an xperia device to replace my old X10
****inn ****!! The ugly's level is over 9000!!!!!!!!
they all look pretty ugly to be honest. I don't think the picture is real tho.
pictures are real, they are same as the one post on sony japan website
Hmmm...
Well Okay...
To me, the upgrade isn't that much comparing what you sacrifice in design. If those are the final devices (yea, I know, I say this a lot between the other threads) Sony seems to have ditched the design factor and the light bar.
I'm glad the GX has the Arc curve though, so the Arc people will be happy. It just doesn't do anything more than that design-wise in my opinion.
It's a bit of a bummer that they dropped the light bar, and are going down the generic form path :/.
It's what I thought though, the GX does indeed appear to be the S with an upgraded core, so the deciding factor would really be design (S) or if you are a spec-junkie the S4 (GX). Yes, the screen is larger, but it has onscreen buttons, so you lose screen real-estate.
All in all, I'm keeping my S for two years . I am curious to see what next year will bring.
Final thought (or just something I forgot to add ):
I wonder if it has a card slot in it, because that is quite small if it's not expandable, which would be another big deciding factor.
Xperia GX
I think the GX is way sexier than the Xperia S & thinner well most of the phone is. I so hope this is released in the Uk, but only if the battery is as least 2000 mAH
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It's a bit of a bummer that they dropped the light bar, and are going down the generic form path :/.
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Well, at that size you just do not have that many options. If they add the bar, already long phone will get even longer.
But it is a shame anyway. They could at least "fake" something resembling the light bar, not necessary transparent, as it would be great notification light. Something most phones nowadays are sorely missing.
I just hope, that this is not the real "hayabusa".
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Well, at that size you just do not have that many options. If they add the bar, already long phone will get even longer.
But it is a shame anyway. They could at least "fake" something resembling the light bar, not necessary transparent, as it would be great notification light. Something most phones nowadays are sorely missing.
I just hope, that this is not the real "hayabusa".
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It's the real thing, but it's likely not intended for a worldwide release. There will be something else for us.
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This is a bit of an afterthought, as I am just looking through that pdf now.
I thought it was just the picture, but the SX has a rather large space between the earpiece and the screen, giving it a very long effect. Kinda like the old pre-smartphone candybar phones.
Maybe it was the last little SE thing before they were taken over, to launch the S and such with the light bar. But on these devices it's like they were designed when the creative department was on vacation :/.
Even the Sola (which I thought was launched as a new tech gimmick) had a sort of light bar to it and I felt was better designed.
The GX and SX are nice devices, but I wouldn't consider them flagships like some people are saying, they seem to be rushed to me, I don't know...
The big upper bezel in the SX is only because of the Japan-specific features. They have to put the TV antenna and IR blaster somewhere now don't they
The GX is perfect for an international release. No Japan-specific features, no carrier branding so far. The only thing they'd have to change is the modem, and that is just a slightly different SoC. I highly suspect the GX to be released near the end of the summer in EMEA. The US can f* off, they get enough nice exclusive phones already anyway
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The big upper bezel in the SX is only because of the Japan-specific features. They have to put the TV antenna and IR blaster somewhere now don't they
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That light strip would be perfect candidate for both, it just needs to be located on top
The GX is perfect for an international release. No Japan-specific features, no carrier branding so far. The only thing they'd have to change is the modem, and that is just a slightly different SoC. I highly suspect the GX to be released near the end of the summer in EMEA. The US can f* off, they get enough nice exclusive phones already anyway
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If rumours about 1750mAh are true, then I am afraid it is dead for me. And probably to many others outside of japan.
Even if it has replaceable battery.
I was really hoping to see just an updated Xperia S
I love the design of XS, these new ones, they does'nt look premium or even a little bit special
Sony has to learn that 3 models per year is just right
A high-end, mid-end, low-end and at the max, a new Xperia Play
all other techs developped during the year must wait to the next's years flagship device.
I'll probably stay with my Arc for a year or 2
waiting for a not too big phone, quad-core, better battery life, and why not, the same technology used with the Xperia Active?
Woo, I'm glad I have an Xperia S. Those things are butt-ugly.
Seriously Sony? Get rid of Ericsson and release one of the dopest looking phones on the market - only to release some of the ugliest phones right after?
This does not bode well.
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Not really minor, Qualcomm S3 of XPS is nothing compared to other dual-core, but Qualcomm S4 is the king of dual-core right now
The screen size is also larger with very marginal increase in size (128mm -> 131mm in height)
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I think its pretty minor. The only thing the krait does better are benchmarks. The S is already really fast, but it could have better memory latency and bandwidth which the GX does have. The S never has lag in my opinion and unless you want a bigger epeen, you really don't need the new core for most tasks. I do like the look of the new casing alot, it is how the Xperia S should have been made. I am not a fan of the arc design though and the screen is too damn big. 4.3 is perfect.
The idea that the gx will come packed with an s4 processor is right now, just pure speculation.
There would be no phones released this year by Sony with radically different hardware from either the s or the ion.
To do that would be to diminish and even you could argue make a mockery of the term flagship.
They cannot release a new flagship barely 5 months after the launch of the s.
I know it was disappointing to see the S launched with the s3 but I'm afraid Sony users will just have to make do with that this year.
Sony always cheap out on processors. They did it last year with the arc and it's the same story now.
I don't know maybe they do it to stay competitive on pricing or to just keep the price down considering the 12mp camera on board.
Don't forget that the recommended retail price for the xperia s is £460 as compared to the one x which is £480.
The fact you can find the S for much less is due to the fact the big retailers have refused that price because of the great difficulties they had selling the hopeless phones Sony Ericsson released last year.
So you could say, the S is having to clean up the mess left behind by all those competitively weak devices released last year.
Dual core made more of an impression last year than quad core will make this year because android really need multi threading. After two two cores, anything else is just a bonus but not essential.
By that, releasing single core phones last year was just plain ridiculous.
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The idea that the gx will come packed with an s4 processor is right now, just pure speculation.
There would be no phones released this year by Sony with radically different hardware from either the s or the ion.
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Well, there is one fairly significant difference: the LTE.
The only way to go with S3 would be to integrate some "external" 3rd party solution, like some "early birds" from HTC or Samsung did.
Which would be a huge undertaking with their share of problems. And I doubt such small device as SX would be doable at all. This is before we even consider such things as battery life.
Similarly, ST-Ericsson NovaThors with LTE won't be available until 2013.
To do that would be to diminish and even you could argue make a mockery of the term flagship.
They cannot release a new flagship barely 5 months after the launch of the s.
I know it was disappointing to see the S launched with the s3 but I'm afraid Sony users will just have to make do with that this year.
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I have an impression, the Xperia S was rushed emergency release. Just to have something to sell *now*, and not a part of normal development pipeline. If so, the xs will be pushed to background as soon as real flagships are ready.
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Hello guys. What were you actually expecting from Samsung Galaxy S3? Why I asked is because of reading few people's comment on it saying- "Samsung fail", "Not worth ed". Did you all expect Samsung to stuff in a super computer in a 8.6mm phone?
Now, you might say "that's MY opinion". I guess you are right.
But let's think something deep-
1) All you are asking for is 2GB RAM. Why? I could never cross 550MB in my S2.
2) 12MP? Well that might be even what I wanted. But Samsung fully concentrated on software tweeks.
3) The design is poor- I don't agree. What I agree is the build quality is cheap.
What do you guys say? I think S3 will be a hit
I was expecting )
1-ultra amoled hd 3d display
2- near 2gb ram because many games and apps is future will require more and more ram.
3-better shape design.
4-well camera has been improved even it is 8mp.
5-hd resolution ......
Others were fulfilled basically the software features are awesome but design and shape is pathetic and as for hardware nothing is new or special I believe it depends what people expected from then .....
Ok wait WORST PART#### Samsung galaxy s3 featuring exynos is bad As sense 2.1/30.3.5/4.0.+
Would never be ported As it will be impossible reason - exynos chip does not support sense we would need to remake the ui ....
I will stick to S2!!!
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There should be a forth question in the poll:
"Undecided, waiting to see it up close"
I'd want full hd display with 3d;2 giga of ram and a better gpu but I gonna to by s3 anyway!I really liked the design and these upgrade is good enough for me
I was explecting multiple versions of the device.
I would have liked to see one with a full QWERTY keyboard.
I would have like to seen one with no physical buttons.
I would have also liked to have seen one with pur ICS.
I watched the entire unpacked, and all I could think was, I can't wait for me to get my hands on one and flash CM9.
The S2 has never let me down performance wise so I expect much the same from S3.
However, my only disappointment is the look of the phone. It looks so S1. Major letdown.
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OP raises a good point. Question is whether our expectations were too high or too unrealistic??
Just image, if there were no high-end phones from Samsung after SGS2 (assuming Note and GNex didn't exist). If we look in this way, SGS3 is a decent upgrade from SGS2. We can't expect them to give a gigantic upgrade compared to Note/GNex when these phones are roughly 6 months old. Idea is that, compare SGS3 to SGS2 and see what you are getting extra. It's unfair comparing it to GNex.
1] Change in design -- for better or worse, that upto you to decide.
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2] Better SoC -- upgraded CPU and GPU.
3] Better resolution, even if you consider the PenTile. If we talk about sub-pixels, we are looking at 60% more sub-pixels compared to RGB matrix in SGS2.
4] Better camera quality even though the resolution is same. Check comparison between SGS3 vs SGS2 camera shots here
5] Bigger battery and more storage options.
I thought they would be able to produce a RGB matrix HD SAMOLED. Clearly, there is still some technical/engineering challenges. Hopefully they will do it in Note 2.
As for 2GB RAM, I would like someone to do a test and figure how many applications running simultaneously are required to fill 1GB.
Sadman Sakib said:
Hello guys. What were you actually expecting from Samsung Galaxy S3? Why I asked is because of reading few people's comment on it saying- "Samsung fail", "Not worth ed". Did you all expect Samsung to stuff in a super computer in a 8.6mm phone?
Now, you might say "that's MY opinion". I guess you are right.
But let's think something deep-
1) All you are asking for is 2GB RAM. Why? I could never cross 550MB in my S2.
2) 12MP? Well that might be even what I wanted. But Samsung fully concentrated on software tweeks.
3) The design is poor- I don't agree. What I agree is the build quality is cheap.
What do you guys say? I think S3 will be a hit
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You've never crossed 550mb? You're not using your phone then.
I agree with the excessiveness of a 12mp camera though. Design is in the eye of the beholder by yes plastic is cheap even Though it has it's advantages. I just hope the phone doesn't get so hot like the sgs2
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don2012 said:
I was expecting )
1-ultra amoled hd 3d display
2- near 2gb ram because many games and apps is future will require more and more ram.
3-better shape design.
4-well camera has been improved even it is 8mp.
5-hd resolution ......
Others were fulfilled basically the software features are awesome but design and shape is pathetic and as for hardware nothing is new or special I believe it depends what people expected from then .....
Ok wait WORST PART#### Samsung galaxy s3 featuring exynos is bad As sense 2.1/30.3.5/4.0.+
Would never be ported As it will be impossible reason - exynos chip does not support sense we would need to remake the ui ....
I will stick to S2!!!
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Thanks for your opinion. I really appreciate the link u provided about launchers...thanks
micoxda said:
There should be a forth question in the poll:
"Undecided, waiting to see it up close"
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Haha....you got one buddy
rd_nest said:
OP raises a good point. Question is whether our expectations were too high or too unrealistic??
Just image, if there were no high-end phones from Samsung after SGS2 (assuming Note and GNex didn't exist). If we look in this way, SGS3 is a decent upgrade from SGS2. We can't expect them to give a gigantic upgrade compared to Note/GNex when these phones are roughly 6 months old. Idea is that, compare SGS3 to SGS2 and see what you are getting extra. It's unfair comparing it to GNex.
1] Change in design -- for better or worse, that upto you to decide.
2] Better SoC -- upgraded CPU and GPU.
3] Better resolution, even if you consider the PenTile. If we talk about sub-pixels, we are looking at 60% more sub-pixels compared to RGB matrix in SGS2.
4] Better camera quality even though the resolution is same. Check comparison between SGS3 vs SGS2 camera shots here
5] Bigger battery and more storage options.
I thought they would be able to produce a RGB matrix HD SAMOLED. Clearly, there is still some technical/engineering challenges. Hopefully they will do it in Note 2.
As for 2GB RAM, I would like someone to do a test and figure how many applications running simultaneously are required to fill 1GB.
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Best comment so far!!
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I wanted
different material, not plastic again
screen edge to edge
1080p
1st phone to feature a well done edge to edge screen will score some major points, that would have been amazing for this phone.
Samsung galaxy s gti9000=looks like everyone can use preferred as from.now (old beauty ) but.looks a bit .... And is outdated
Samsung galaxy.s2 gti9100= looks manly phone and nice and not outdate looks cool and hot just wish it had a bigger scrrenn
Samsung galaxy s3= wow looks freaking ...... Like cow **** ewww nooooo .. Good specs(nothing new in specs)... ..awsome software features which R going to be ported.to s2
If some one finds the s3 firmware please pm me i will start porting the software features!!!!
My greatest wish for the SGS-III have been granted; a notification led.
Thank you Samsung!
Here it is. Well crossing finges that somebody has done this in photoshop. Butt if arc s wont get... so we are stucked too
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We have a whole Xperia Ray supporting/ developing community. I think someone will do the "hard" work for everyone else here. Someone will port it (or at least some of the features) to xperia ray. I hope so!
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the next one says Xperia Mini Pro Won't Get JB
well
that's the fact
i assume all the 2011Xperia Line won't Get JB as they have the same Ram and CPU
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Here it is. Well crossing finges that somebody has done this in photoshop. Butt if arc s wont get... so we are stucked too
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no update to JB for 2011 xperia lineup..
http://www.gsmarena.com/2011_xperia...no_ics_for_optimus_2x_and_black-news-4570.php
what a stupid reply from that guy.
"we're always developing new phones and making sure they get the latest updates."
so he expect we should buy a new shiny phone everytime google updates android.
So bad of Sony. We middle class ppl can't buy every time a new higher end mobiles for each n every updates. This really hurts for every xperia 2011 model holders. Too bad.
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imho the ram is the problem, and teh single-core cpu.
ics was made for phones with dual-core cpu and 1gig of ram.
i'd be surprised if jb would run the same/better as ics on our phones.
and you have to admit, ics is remarkebly slower on our "cheap-ass" phones (mines a ray) as gb,
gb is fast as hell compared to ics.
even if i overclock my phone gb is still much faster @stock
an0nym0us_ said:
what a stupid reply from that guy.
"we're always developing new phones and making sure they get the latest updates."
so he expect we should buy a new shiny phone everytime google updates android.
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we can get custom JB rom .. and who cares about sony's JB update i am sure it will suck as ICS sony's update did before..
i am currently using Custom ICS rom as i didnt like sony's ICS update
well. sony's ics is (4.0.4) just as fine as any other ics rom offered here (imho), if you're uninstalling all the unnecessary ****, know what i mean?
running ics 4.0.4 from sony now, uninstalled all the bloatware i dont need, and its just as performant as any other ics rom offered here.
all those tweaks offered here are (imho) just eyewash, tried so many roms, tweaks and stufff, believe me, my stripped stock-ics is just as fast(slow) as any offered ics-rom for ray here.
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imho the ram is the problem, and teh single-core cpu.
ics was made for phones with dual-core cpu and 1gig of ram.
i'd be surprised if jb would run the same/better as ics on our phones.
and you have to admit, ics is remarkebly slower on our "cheap-ass" phones (mines a ray) as gb,
gb is fast as hell compared to ics.
even if i overclock my phone gb is still much faster @stock
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Dude JB runs with no lag on NEXUS ONE
One of the main problems is the companies always look for including their bloatware, no matter if it's unnecessary, bad and full of bugs; this slows the system performance dramatically. Yeah, nasty policies.
It seems like another war is coming, like when SE announced Xperia X10 wasn't going to be updated to GB. At the end, thanks for all the claims and petitions, they delivered it, but its version was terrible slow... However, that phone runs fine with AOSP.
So, the problem is NOT the hardware, but the bad software SONY delivers. I always wonder why SONY engineers have that level of incompetence.
Im still a SONY fan thanks to their beautiful models... But just for decisions like this, Im thinking about switching to HTC.
Btw, JB is supposed to be an ICS improvement, not a total system upgrade (this is confirmed by a friend of mine who owns a Galaxy Nexus and recently updated it to JB). More reasons to question SONY for not delivering.
realCyphox said:
imho the ram is the problem, and teh single-core cpu.
ics was made for phones with dual-core cpu and 1gig of ram.
i'd be surprised if jb would run the same/better as ics on our phones.
and you have to admit, ics is remarkebly slower on our "cheap-ass" phones (mines a ray) as gb,
gb is fast as hell compared to ics.
even if i overclock my phone gb is still much faster @stock
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But mine... Ics is so much faster and smoother than gb, and much greater performance... Browser is faster, Transition between page-to-pages or scrolling is so much faster...
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El Brillantinas said:
One of the main problems is the companies always look for including their bloatware, no matter if it's unnecessary, bad and full of bugs; this slows the system performance dramatically. Yeah, nasty policies.
It seems like another war is coming, like when SE announced Xperia X10 wasn't going to be updated to GB. At the end, thanks for all the claims and petitions, they delivered it, but its version was terrible slow... However, that phone runs fine with AOSP.
So, the problem is NOT the hardware, but the bad software SONY delivers. I always wonder why SONY engineers have that level of incompetence.
Im still a SONY fan thanks to their beautiful models... But just for decisions like this, Im thinking about switching to HTC.
Btw, JB is supposed to be an ICS improvement, not a total system upgrade (this is confirmed by a friend of mine who owns a Galaxy Nexus and recently updated it to JB). More reasons to question SONY for not delivering.
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Switching to HTC??
HTC One V have same spec with ray and they dont get JB, only One X and One S get JB
gederickson said:
Switching to HTC??
HTC One V have same spec with ray and they dont get JB, only One X and One S get JB
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Yup, I'm pointing to HTC One X. However, I'll give my lovely Ray to my girlfriend, so I'll still be in touch with SONY somehow...
Well, actually that'll happen depending of my economy haha.
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i think it's fake
Nexus s with 512mb ram...1Ghz processor...( the same specs as of 2011 xperia lineup) just git updated to jelly bean in India... So if it can handle jb why not xperia ray...? Sony is now a ****ty company...they underestimate there phones that's the reason its drowned...if not they someone else will make a rom for xperia... Moreover all the Sony stock roms suck... So it'll be better that some developer makes it...cuz he can understand a user's need...
shprakash said:
So bad of Sony. We middle class ppl can't buy every time a new higher end mobiles for each n every updates. This really hurts for every xperia 2011 model holders. Too bad.
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i'm totally agree with u dude .. its much more hard to have the new high-end phone for some people :crying:
Sony does NOT underestimate their phones.Its just like someone said here.. The want uz so buy new phones JUST to have the new JB update.. Its not that JB would be slow on 2011 Xperias.. thats ****. . I bet my ass that they had 4,1 for far longer that they announced it... just *****ng marketing.. "lets put 4.0 to all 2011 phones and we can USE the "new" 4.1 to get ppl top buy the new models... thats so cheap of sony but I bet my ass its just like this...
Not only SONY but every manufacturers are playing games,they want users to buy new phones instead of using their old phones. every one knows our phones are not so old that they cant handle JB,. even JB is more liter and faster then ICS its perfect for our low end phones.
Because Stock Android dont have custom skins and custom skins is hard to make it compatible with the newest android releases.. thats why nexus s can get ics jb...
and btw dont bother switching to htc.. u know the htc desire hd the flagship ? not getting ics .. and also sony has updated the entire 2011 line.. xcept play but have released a beta ics.. and samsung only updates flagship phones.. so galaxy s advanced? never gonna see the dessert.. stays on ginger..
Sony isn't favorable to update the old phones, after all is new which it is better and so on. As well as to all other producers money is necessary to them. It is a lot of money.
I see you have ambitions to become a much bigger player in the Android smartphone market, competing with the likes of HTC and Samsung.
Well, you have started doing the right things, for example, you have a great lineup of phones, and you offer the ability to unlock the bootloader (abiet forfeiting our warranty, but that's no different to what HTC do). However the key area in which you are failing is the key area where ALL Sony products fail. SOFTWARE.
If you truly want to get some mainstream love, you need to be investing in software, not just on mobile, on all your products. However on Android, you need to be talking about Jellybean, and you need to be aiming to get it out on your flagship devices before Samsung does. It's really that simple. If you demonstrate prompt and reliable software updates to the latest OS, then consumers will come.
You also have to understand, that now Jellybean has been out for several months, and there are devices already running it (abiet Nexus devices), it's always going to be a hard sell to try and sell a ICS based device, and you are going to get slaughtered by the press for this (much more than other companies doing the same, simply because you are Sony and you aren't American).
A small chance Sony reads this?
Try Sony forums.
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sorry... but till Gingerbread, the Sony (Erricson) software ist one of the best optimiced firmwares around... not that Big Bloatet batterydrain like HTC Sense **** and not so ugly and buggy like Touchwitz... And ICS is just startet and i belive in further FW Releaces, ICS will be great like Gingerbread Firmware.
i meen Samsung kicks out new releases very fast, but with uch more bugs like Sony. And when we talking about optimation - Sony kicks in the Ass of Samsung and HTC..
for real: no other firmware (im talking bout Gingerbread, not for the new ICS) is so fast, battery optimiced and beautiful like the Sony Stock Firmware...
i dont care about the newest of the newese from the newest (and if, here the XDA Devs has every newest ****t better than the Manufactures), i am carring about good working, good looking Software... thats the reason why im Changed fom HTC to Sony (Ericsson) and thats the reason why im stay with Sony (okay, there a couple of reasons more like Greenness)
let Sony a bit time to made a good Firmware out of ICS/JB - thats better than a to early, not good working Firmware
A perfect phone would have Sony's design, HTC's Sense (4.0+) and Samsung's hardware.
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A perfect phone would have Sony's design, HTC's Sense (4.0+) and Samsung's hardware.
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Are you kidding. Sense is a joke compared to Sony software or even default android.
romiltherock said:
A perfect phone would have Sony's design, HTC's Sense (4.0+) and Samsung's hardware.
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I simply so love their design that I bought 2010,2011 and now 2012 Xperia Phone
JB coming to SGS2 in Sept-Nov, take note Sony
JB incomming...
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JB coming to SGS2 in Sept-Nov, take note Sony
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About same time for XPS. Sony is working hard on software quality and update speed.
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Samsung had promised "early 2012" ics for galaxy note.
How well that work out then?
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About same time for XPS. Sony is working hard on software quality and update speed.
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But Galaxy S2 is a previous generation phone that is going to receive JB. Will Arc S receive JB? Time will tell but for now all I hear is silence.
Don't get me wrong, I am a Xperia user but this silence is making me impatient with Sony. Looks and hardware can only get you so far without software support
I dont think that Sony makes our screens or hardware,so you shouldnt say that this is Sony fault.
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I dont think that Sony makes our screens or hardware,so you shouldnt say that this is Sony fault.
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Huh????
Sony design, build quality and camera is what keeps me using Sony handsets.
Obviously they don't make all the components that go in them. ( imagine the size of the factory they would need)
Apple source components from other companies as do all other handset manufacturers.
You are stepping out of the point of this thread though.
The point being made is that Sony are slow on the update scene.
And as we see from the replies, as usual we get an instant debate.
Yes...having the latest version of android is important to some. And yes it CAN be a deal breaker in the choice of handset to opt for but...
Anyone choosing a handset purely for a new OS isn't doing their homework or that impressed by hardware.
Same as someone choosing a quad core handset running gb isn't that interested in os.
I personally would like prompt updates to my OS but NOT if it is detrimental to the performance of my handset be it via bugs or tweaks that decrease functions in certain areas.
Ok so htc are quick to update but do you want an HTC?
Seriously?
They are ok but not as refined or pretty as the Sony handsets.
And their Desire Hd ( 1 of last years flagships) won't be getting ICS.
So that tells me that HTC are just as capable of OS issues as Sony.
Nexus are rebranded phones made by other companies.
They are only updated quickly because google push for it.
Doesn't mean they are better than Sony, Samsung, HTC ( which used to make the nexus handsets), or huwai. I will leave Motorola out of this list because they fail in hardware, OS and UI and updating areas. ( care to argue? Buy 1 and see for yourself)
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Why rush out a buggy Jelly Bean and get bad press when you can push out a polished Jelly Bean and get less bad press?
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Huh????
Sony design, build quality and camera is what keeps me using Sony handsets.
Obviously they don't make all the components that go in them. ( imagine the size of the factory they would need)
Apple source components from other companies as do all other handset manufacturers.
You are stepping out of the point of this thread though.
The point being made is that Sony are slow on the update scene.
And as we see from the replies, as usual we get an instant debate.
Yes...having the latest version of android is important to some. And yes it CAN be a deal breaker in the choice of handset to opt for but...
Anyone choosing a handset purely for a new OS isn't doing their homework or that impressed by hardware.
Same as someone choosing a quad core handset running gb isn't that interested in os.
I personally would like prompt updates to my OS but NOT if it is detrimental to the performance of my handset be it via bugs or tweaks that decrease functions in certain areas.
Ok so htc are quick to update but do you want an HTC?
Seriously?
They are ok but not as refined or pretty as the Sony handsets.
And their Desire Hd ( 1 of last years flagships) won't be getting ICS.
So that tells me that HTC are just as capable of OS issues as Sony.
Nexus are rebranded phones made by other companies.
They are only updated quickly because google push for it.
Doesn't mean they are better than Sony, Samsung, HTC ( which used to make the nexus handsets), or huwai. I will leave Motorola out of this list because they fail in hardware, OS and UI and updating areas. ( care to argue? Buy 1 and see for yourself)
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Why rush out a buggy Jelly Bean and get bad press when you can push out a polished Jelly Bean and get less bad press?
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really?
Sony's ics release on the xps was full of issues and so was there most recent release for the xperia p (gingerbread) that left the phone basically unusable as a phone!
people on here talk of 'lets wait and get a fully optimized release' and that it will be worth the wait but im inclined to not agree. Just my opinion of course but all the most recent phones i have had from sony (currently own xps) have had fantastic hardware and awefull software...to the point where actually i cant put up with it any longer and end up getting rid of it for something else. Im sure i wont be the only one in this regard also.
Great design and hardware etc will only go so far before the thing pisses you off so much that you cant put up with it any longer!
this thread is stupid
I thought it would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts since the Z Ultra is more of a niche device.
For me, it's mainly because of the screen size as I wanted something more of a small tablet. I was deciding between this and Nexus 7 FHD LTE but ultimately went with the Z Ultra. Expandable memory was a huge factor in this. Plus I want to try out Sony again. I like them.
So what's your reason?
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I thought it would be interesting to hear everyone's thoughts since the Z Ultra is more of a niche device.
For me, it's mainly because of the screen size as I wanted something more of a small tablet. I was deciding between this and Nexus 7 FHD LTE but ultimately went with the Z Ultra. Expandable memory was a huge factor in this. Plus I want to try out Sony again. I like them.
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Had a Nexus 7 2012 and a htc sensation, my sensation died and started to feel annoying by always have to carrying both phone and tab. Started to look for a phablet and found the XZU, meanwhile I saw the specs of the new n7 and got really disappointed. The XZU is the ultimate phablet, no real competitors yet (galaxy mega is too far behind). Sony really worked on the build quality, and this is a real plus, plastic devices can't be call a high-end devices.
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Well, I wanted to get the biggest device out there because my fingers are quite fat. I'm not saying that I'm fat but my hands are ..well ..kind of wide and thick. 4,7 inches is just to small for my hands.
I am forever a crackberry user after having the 9900 before my One X and the Bold series is hands down the best devices for typing on. But they are small, and BB phones are..just very boring.
Why I chose SONY and to continue with android is because the user friendly unlocking process of the bootloader just like HTC without using some exploit or bug. And I got a bit too comfortable with the idiot safe and too stable HTC devices and roms. I had the Desire PVT4, One X endeavour and now my dad got the silver HTC One which I'm in charge of flashing new roms and updates on so naah, I wanted to try something new and exciting with premium built quality! :fingers-crossed:
Hello, I will order my XZU in a few days. I already got a 6,44" Smartphone and im happy with its size, its perfectly fits in my jeans pocket and in my hands so i wouldn't have any problems with the size of the XZU. It is waterproof, looks pretty good and it have the snap800 thats why i decided to order it.
The camera isn't a problem in my eyes, when i want to take high quality pictures then i dont use a smartphone.
I had the Galaxy Note, and it was time to move on, so i was looking for something with a big screen. I first wanted the Xperia Z, since i really like Sony's Omni Balance design, but the screen just ruined the whole thing for me, so i checked the HTC One out, but the screen is too small. I had no idea after that, so i waited and suddenly Sony announced the Ultra, and i checked out their ad, and i started laughing since it's so huge. I dismissed it on the spot and continued with my day. A couple of days later i though about it again and i checked some more videos of it, and i suddenly said to myself, "i must have it". And that pretty much it.
Why didn't i go with the Note 3? I've had a Note for almost two years, and i wanted to leave Samsung. They are stuck IMO, and the only thing they keep pushing out now are big or small versions of an existing product, and they are still shoving crap into TouchWiz. No thanks.
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I had the Galaxy Note, and it was time to move on, so i was looking for something with a big screen. I first wanted the Xperia Z, since i really like Sony's Omni Balance design, but the screen just ruined the whole thing for me, so i checked the HTC One out, but the screen is too small. I had no idea after that, so i waited and suddenly Sony announced the Ultra, and i checked out their ad, and i started laughing since it's so huge. I dismissed it on the spot and continued with my day. A couple of days later i though about it again and i checked some more videos of it, and i suddenly said to myself, "i must have it". And that pretty much it.
Why didn't i go with the Note 3? I've had a Note for almost two years, and i wanted to leave Samsung. They are stuck IMO, and the only thing they keep pushing out now are big or small versions of an existing product, and they are still shoving crap into TouchWiz. No thanks.
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Not to mention ATT looks like they locked the bootloader on Note 3. Not sure if Tmo did the same, but it looks like they share the ATT LTE bands. I still felt that the C6806 with LTE on ATT and larger screen is better than any other device.
I come from the Note 2 and have been maintaining TWRP on the Note1 ATT and all Note 2 devices. I want to see if I can use motochopper on the C6806 since I don't trust vroot as much.
I just really wanted a small fast tablet with FHD, went round them all and finally the XZU emerged; some only dual core, some low res, some no expandable storage. Albeit the XZU is designed to be primarily a phone first, as a tablet it also excels at getting the job done. I travel internationally for work purpose, often to destinations way off the grid such as Borneo, so space is always an absolute premium.
Of course the display, I have never owned a mobile device that literally people comment on the quality of the image reproduction, especially films. Maybe I lucked out, equally I have not seen better on a mobile.
My only concern is 16Gb, bigger aps, ever larger data 32Gb should be the default on premium products. As the Galaxy Note 3 now comes with 32Gb as default it`s simply a matter of time before others follow suit, my only concern is the XZU is such a niche product it may not sustain...
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It's a Sony
i sold my Galaxy Mega, and my ZU arrives tomorrow... i got bored with Samsungs design a while ago and decided to go with Sony, the design looks really good and solid, cant wait to unbox it!
This unit is like a piece of fine art with TWO world records, Biggest smartphone and Smallest tablet. you got the Best of both world !!!
Humongous screen
And slim profile
Definitely a head turner
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I doubted first but now saw I wanted it.the screen the style, the waterresistant. And fellow xdaers have convinced me, Spidey and Lord M
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Screen and the slim body
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Just got mine this morning and OMG! I wanted to get away from Samsungs design and am so happy I did.. This makes my old mega feel like a toy... This is the best phone speed and design wise I've ever had
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Just got mine this morning and OMG! I wanted to get away from Samsungs design and am so happy I did.. This makes my old mega feel like a toy... This is the best phone speed and design wise I've ever had
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Right! My Note feels like something from Toys R Us now. When you buy an Ultra, you'll get what you pay for; quality build. When you buy a Samsung, you get a plastic duck with a lot of gestures.
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Right! My Note feels like something from Toys R Us now. When you buy an Ultra, you'll get what you pay for; quality build. When you buy a Samsung, you get a plastic duck with a lot of gestures.
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Hahaha!
(Sams always good with hardware specs though )
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(Sams always good with hardware specs though )
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Yes, they're really good at hardware specs, but not the hardware itself and the software. Plastic and TouchWiz doesn't scream "i paid top dollar for this". When i buy a Porsche i expect the best interior, exterior and performance. Samsung is good at performace. They are the Corvette of the mobile world, awesome performance but ****ty build quality (Corvettes are 101% plastic). Sony is the Aston Martin. Stylish, really fast (and expensive).
Not saying that Sony is perfect, because they're not, but they're the closest i'll get to high performace, openess and build quality in one device.
So i sold my note 3 30 minutes after posting it on craigslist. Ordered my new Xperia z Ultra from new egg and i have never been so excited for a device. I got the 6806 model so it will support ATT LTE. This is definitely the most money I have ever spent on a cell phone but screw it. After playing with it in the sony store for only a few minutes i was 100 percent sold. Cant wait till tuesday when my device arrives. Only question now is what do i do without a phone for the next couple of days?
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So i sold my note 3 30 minutes after posting it on craigslist. Ordered my new Xperia z Ultra from new egg and i have never been so excited for a device. I got the 6806 model so it will support ATT LTE. This is definitely the most money I have ever spent on a cell phone but screw it. After playing with it in the sony store for only a few minutes i was 100 percent sold. Cant wait till tuesday when my device arrives. Only question now is what do i do without a phone for the next couple of days?
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Welcome to your new life!!
Its a great device. I was going to do the Note 3 thing too... but the Ultra is just such a great looking unit!
You will be happy with the purchase...
oh... ohHH... don't get me started on 'next couple of days'... I've been without for 11 days now!!!
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Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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I love the z ultra there simply is nothing out there with the same portability that can do the same job amazing for a web browser it goes where my new iPad air cannot it really is unique in its own sense.I tried to sell it but I had second thought I would miss it too much I rate it very high against my iPhone 5s and nexus 5 it stands in the same league as them.
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I love the z ultra there simply is nothing out there with the same portability that can do the same job amazing for a web browser it goes where my new iPad air cannot it really is unique in its own sense.I tried to sell it but I had second thought I would miss it too much I rate it very high against my iPhone 5s and nexus 5 it stands in the same league as them.
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Y'all got me debating now I was going to shoot for a note 3 or a nexus 5 but the z looks nice...thanks for the brain fart lol JP but I am debating now.
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Welcome. You're going to find that the support for the xzu won't be as diverse as the note however. I still choose the zxu.
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I find Sony's support better than Samsung. We've had an update each month for 4 months, thats pretty good!
But more sheep will buy the note 3, so you are also more inclined to get a few extra developers.
In saying that I think we have a few good dev's here at present.. with more to come......
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Y'all got me debating now I was going to shoot for a note 3 or a nexus 5 but the z looks nice...thanks for the brain fart lol JP but I am debating now.
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essentially this is what you have to decide....
-large unit, smooth UI, excellent camera, average build (Note3)
-larger unit, smoother UI, average camera, premium build (Ultra)
I also sold my Note 3 because of the disgustingly bad screen.
I made the right choice leaving samsung. Tomorrow I will get a Z1 to replace the Note 3 .
While I love the Ultra it's a bit to big for daily use which I will use the Z1 for :good:
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I also sold my Note 3 because of the disgustingly bad screen.
I made the right choice leaving samsung. Tomorrow I will get a Z1 to replace the Note 3 .
While I love the Ultra it's a bit to big for daily use which I will use the Z1 for :good:
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Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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No screen issues here with Z1, my Z1 screen looks even better then the Z Ultra one in a store here lol and I don't have a hot Z1 even when playing games. But I don't play very heavy games
Anyway I'd choose Z Ultra over Note 3, like it's been said camera isn't as good as Note 3, but I wouldn't use it.anyway with a device this size, kinda looks ridiculous to take pictures with large devices
Anyway build quality and design are the key points to.choose ZU over Note 3. Sony interface is 100times more beautiful as Samsung interface (although this is something personal) and Sony feels very premium with the aluminium body and glass
And I'm here to develop, working on kitkat AOSP now
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Compare to ZU, the Xperia Z1 is a joke in my opinion...The screen quality on Z1 is really bad and it get hot really soon after using for some minutes. Battery is not so good either...
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People say the Z1 has washed out colours etc which I don't give a crap about. I'm tired of samsungs bad screens because they have this retarded unevenness, thick lines which makes the screen look damaged etc. All samsung phones gets hot really fast.
The battery can easily be tweaked. People complain about battery about all samsung phones etc but then I get 2 days out of it including Note 3. I get really good battery with my current Z ultra as well.
So I'm pretty confident. Another thing is the night and day difference between samsung and sonys phone. Sonys phone scream premium.
I would without a hitch sacrifice popping colours for better build quality etc. That's all samsung has going "popping colours" and then you have bad build quality, bad screens etc etc.
All in all, I'm extremely happy I went to sony after all these years with samsung ^^.
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That why we have the forum:good:
That's what I meant though. The forum support for the xzu is less than what I have already seen for the note 3. I'm sure actual sony support is great and we can just walk into a retailer. I think that it's just because it's an incredibly niche market.
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Forum input is distressingly weak unfortunately.
I don't think the Ultra matches up to the Note 3, but... I wanted a 6"-6.3 plus screen and Note can't match that!
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Forum input is distressingly weak unfortunately.
I don't think the Ultra matches up to the Note 3, but... I wanted a 6"-6.3 plus screen and Note can't match that!
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The Note III is pure trash =/.
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The Note III is pure trash =/.
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hmmm i don't know about that. i just sold it but not because it was trash at all.... it is a great phone but i like the zu's screen and size. The s pen feathers were great and very helpful with multitasking and notes.
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hmmm i don't know about that. i just sold it but not because it was trash at all.... it is a great phone but i like the zu's screen and size. The s pen feathers were great and very helpful with multitasking and notes.
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The build quality and screen is trash.
I love touchwiz though and the whole s-pen thing.
But I couldn't be happier changing now .
Note 3 is far from trash, that's for sure. But it is not my cup of tea though, Touchwiz is so u-g-l-yyyy.. Yeah feature is all around, but i really hate all those Samsung's color choices. Plus plastic is too cheap compared to the price we pay for, so the ZU is like more worth the money. Yeah the ZU doesn't have stylus, but unless you're an artist, almost 99% of person i saw with Note 2 NEVER use that stylus. So again, not my cup of tea.. Plus the Sony one is cheaper here than the note 3 (and it's not a Snapdragon ones in here too) so yeah XZU all the way!
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Note 3 is far from trash, that's for sure. But it is not my cup of tea though, Touchwiz is so u-g-l-yyyy.. Yeah feature is all around, but i really hate all those Samsung's color choices. Plus plastic is too cheap compared to the price we pay for, so the ZU is like more worth the money. Yeah the ZU doesn't have stylus, but unless you're an artist, almost 99% of person i saw with Note 2 NEVER use that stylus. So again, not my cup of tea.. Plus the Sony one is cheaper here than the note 3 (and it's not a Snapdragon ones in here too) so yeah XZU all the way!
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Just my personal opinion of course.
I've had Samsung all my life, as you can see in my sign I've had most of Samsung devices. I friggin LOVED the Note 3 when I first got it..
Samsung has a BAD screen problem which I've put up with all these years which made me finally do the big switch.
So when I now have my Z Ultra and Z1 and think, what does Samsung offer now? Nothing, they are pure trash in my eyes.
Sony is just better in all areas in my opinion. Yes, I miss the s-pen, I kinda miss their multitasking software etc. However, I don't miss them enough to go back to that garbage display they have.
The funny thing is that their display problem have been in every single phone they've released. So all in all with the display and disgusting build quality, they offer nothing that beats Sonys Z Ultra and Z1.
Just wanted to post an explanation ^^.
I just bought this phone ,i had several possibilities nexus 5,note3 or lg g2. My last phone was lg optimus g pro a nice phone but the lack of updates from lg made me to buy the SONY XZU.It has such an amazing display
One of the more idiotic statements on mobile devices I've seen....(but OK...it's 'pure trash'...eyes rolled so far back it hurts
We've had the N3 since release and it's extraordinary...best smartphone on the market.
Pure functionality is all I care about...hardware is secondary 4 me (except for camera..
Note 3 shines in every debt. I love the amoled screens..and N3's is fantastic. Miss it.
But....I really need a tablet, that can also function as a phone if need be, and the Ultra is just that for me.
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