So I've been alternating between multiple ICS roms and Bamf gb and I just can't stay with Ics. I absolutely love all the ICS roms, but my battery life won't get me through a work day. Even with data off and only sending a few text messages it lasts about 6 hours. I first used the ics firmware and one of the older ics leaks and had horrible battery life. I just tried the newest leak with gb fw and still its horrible. Am I doing something wrong? Why is my battery half of what it was on gb?
In short why can't I have good battery life on ICS?
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So I've been alternating between multiple ICS roms and Bamf gb and I just can't stay with Ics. I absolutely love all the ICS roms, but my battery life won't get me through a work day. Even with data off and only sending a few text messages it lasts about 6 hours. I first used the ics firmware and one of the older ics leaks and had horrible battery life. I just tried the newest leak with gb fw and still its horrible. Am I doing something wrong? Why is my battery half of what it was on gb?
In short why can't I have good battery life on ICS?
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In short: because its not done yet, which is why they haven't released it yet.
Why do so many people claim they get the same or equal battery life? With so much fairly polished in it I wish battery life was better.
DrGlitchyPhD said:
Why do so many people claim they get the same or equal battery life? With so much fairly polished in it I wish battery life was better.
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My battery life is just fine on ICS and I have no heat problems either.... but its definitely been very hit or miss.
There are probably a few different hardware revisions out by now, and the various issues are probably affecting only certain phones and not others because of slight differences between them.
If you are one of those people who are having problems, best thing you can do is wait until HTC releases the final ICS build..
any idea why text messages would cause reboots on ICS ROM's?
it shouldn't period. never had that happen. sounds like a bad flash,dirty flash
nsd combination of radios/firmware or a mix. I'd backup, run the latest ruu,clear/reset through bootloader,flash newest amon recovery,wipe everything,flash rom/kernel and firmware patch depending on which you chose. if using new firmware use the 5/2 radios to reduce heat. hopefully you're s-off to do all that
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I've been debating whether or not to upgrade my firmware to the latest and I keep going back and forth.
Can we discuss the pros/cons of doing so?
All I really know is that NOT having the new firmware limits support for most ROMS and can cause some issues. I have also heard its hard (impossible?) to go back to the old one if it was necessary to do so?
Thanks!
trud9340 said:
I've been debating whether or not to upgrade my firmware to the latest and I keep going back and forth.
Can we discuss the pros/cons of doing so?
All I really know is that NOT having the new firmware limits support for most ROMS and can cause some issues. I have also heard its hard (impossible?) to go back to the old one if it was necessary to do so?
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Pros:
ICS is awesome!
Smoother, faster, etc
Battery seems to charge sightly faster
Cons:
Bad battery life (horrible, worse than GB)
CPU overheats (sometimes to 110 degrees!)
Worse reception
Can't downgrade to old firmware till we get S-OFF
In other words, don't upgrade!
I personally have stayed off the firmware and I'm going to wait until ROMs are based off the official OTA or we get S-OFF.
There's a firmware patch anyway that lets you run recent ROMs on the old firmware, so that's a plus.
I've been running ICS ROMs for months with no issues and it's actual ICS.
Heard too many issues coming off the leak anyway.
It seems like the new firmware has the CPU running full tilt where the old firmware did a better job of governing. So the phone gets hot quick(for me screen on only) but stop using it and it cools off fast as well.
MrSmith317 said:
It seems like the new firmware has the CPU running full tilt where the old firmware did a better job of governing. So the phone gets hot quick(for me screen on only) but stop using it and it cools off fast as well.
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I thought the CPU issues were with the kernel, not the firmware?
For me, the news has all been good except for one thing re: new firmware...
Cell Reception.
I can't keep a call connected unless I go outside. Data is great, and overall signal quality is good... until I get a phone call. Then I immediately lose at least 2 bars! How dumb is that!?!?
I can't wait to get S-Off so I can flash the old radio back on. I'm hoping that fixes it.
Pro : no more Blue Flicker
Cons : Reboot like a zillion time a day WTF ??? Bur I think it's just me
Glad I posted this before just going for it. Seems like its not worth it at this point in time. S-off is a long was away, right? I'll just stick it out with the old one.
trud9340 said:
Glad I posted this before just going for it. Seems like its not worth it at this point in time. S-off is a long was away, right? I'll just stick it out with the old one.
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It would seem we're not as far off from it as we once were
but you're a lot better off without the new firmware IMO.
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I thought the CPU issues were with the kernel, not the firmware?
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You definitely got me on that one. I have no clue who the culprit is but it has only been like this since the ICS leak RUU.
I have better battery life.
GrayTheWolf said:
I have better battery life.
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GrayTheWolf said:
I have better battery life.
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I do too, but I think it's more due to the Devs like Nils and lllboredlll tweaking their ROMS for max battery conservation than the new firmware.
I've just solved my rebooting Issue by doing this
1. Reboot into recovery -> Format all to EXT3 and wipe everything
2. Lock Bootloader
3. Flash the leak -> let it run till the end and will automatically reboot back into bootloader.
4. You'll notice the "TAMPERED" on top of the screen has been gone.
5. Flash the leak the 2nd Time and you'll be good.
I've been on it for 3 days without a reboot or slow down or heating issue. Now, I gotta say this leak is great in term of stability, battery life, signal (in Seattle,WA) and performance compared to Gingerbreak.
First, here's a poll on battery life. It seems most people got better or the same battery life with the update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23874951
I upgrade to the new firmware and at first thought I was getting horrible battery life, then it got better about 8 hours with 2 hours screen on time.
Then, I decided to go back down to the old firmware and radio because Andy told me he was getting better battery life on it. I went back down, a and honestly--I haven't noticed a real big difference in battery life with screen on. Both firmwares get about 2 hours on screen time. You can get awesome battery life on either ROM If you leave screen off, but that kind of defeats the whole purpose of using the phone. The new firmware gets better battery life when the screen is off, I think.
The radios are hit or miss, I think. The 4g reception is always different day to day in my daily commutes. Sometimes I'll get a constant 4g signal. Other days it'll be spotty, while some days it just stay on 3g and then I have to put it in airplane mode to get 4g again. And then 5 minutes later it goes back to 3g. I haven't really noticed much of a difference in call quality, but don't really pay attention to that.
I may go back to the new RUU, honestly.
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Sorry for the silly question but how do I see what firmware version I'm on?
Cares said:
Sorry for the silly question but how do I see what firmware version I'm on?
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At home screen.
Menu button> settings> scroll all the way down to about phone> software version> more button
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Is it the build number?
3.11.605.22?
I guess what confused me was something in this thread led me to believe that if you used the "patch" to install from GB, you would still be on the old firmware but running ICS. I'm currently on ClearnROM ICS Pro (ICS obviously)
The very first thing I did upon getting S-OFF was to get off that darned leaked firmware.
I sugesst waiting, personally.
there's so much more negatives than positive, at least was for me.
I run ICS on GB firmware and runs great. Sense 4, does as well. the patch works very well.
also before returning to GB frimware, I was running the leaked for a while and I personally didn't notice the new firmware to be much if any smoother.
all it did was overheat and destroy my batt life.
lesson learned for me.
no more messing around until we have an option to return to normal.
I am just lucky that I didn't brick my rez in the beta s-off(which the method works great BTW!, I hope to see it released ASAP!!) and was able to return to stock firmware, and enjoy my phone again.
andybones said:
The very first thing I did upon getting S-OFF was to get off that darned leaked firmware.
I sugesst waiting, personally.
there's so much more negatives than positive, at least was for me.
I run ICS on GB firmware and runs great. Sense 4, does as well. the patch works very well.
also before returning to GB frimware, I was running the leaked for a while and I personally didn't notice the new firmware to be much if any smoother.
all it did was overheat and destroy my batt life.
lesson learned for me.
no more messing around until we have an option to return to normal.
I am just lucky that I didn't brick my rez in the beta s-off(which the method works great BTW!, I hope to see it released ASAP!!) and was able to return to stock firmware, and enjoy my phone again.
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Just so we all know, what all did it take for you to roll back to the GB firmware when you had S-Off?
I'm using Seraphim and I'm happy with the battery life. It seems to be worse than the GB ROM but I can get about 2% down every hour when the phone is idle.
I am thinking of trying different ROMs and battery life is very important to me. Which ROM will give the phone a better battery life based on your experience?
Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25550982&postcount=5
i should include ICS in the title. I am looking for ICS ROMs.
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i should include ICS in the title. I am looking for ICS ROMs.
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ah ok, im in search of a good ics battery friendly rom as well, actually downloading dag's ics "hybrid" rt now. i'll give it a go for the next couple days and post back. i was seeing about the same as you for seraphim.
In my experience, unless there's a bug, a ROM has little effect on battery life. Android is going to use a certain amount of power to run itself, and there is little that a dev can cook into a ROM to change this. Beyond the system, battery usage is from the screen, apps, and radios. If you are in an area with poor reception, and have lots of apps and widgets that frequently update in the background, this will decrease battery life.
I've used both DaGr8's Alpha II and Seraphim, and my battery drains less than 1% per hour when idling.
Guys a Search would have told you that Battery life is 99% on the user and has almost nothing to do with the rom. We could be running the exact same rom and get very different battery lifes due to the apps we use and how we have the device set up.
In the end there is not best rom. Only what works best for you.
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Are the performance upgrades in MeanRom ICS worth it over the stability and battery life of MeanRom 4.5?
Probably not much different in terms of battery life. Although I am holding out for the official release. Will update at time of PRI / radio, etc. I may actually decide not to make the move at all. There are 3 problems I have with the ICS builds. My shapewriter keyboard has issues when switching from number to letter mode and it does double numbers. Also, SMS backup and SMS backup+ both fail. I need something that integrates with GMAIL and it seems there are no options that work in ICS... no clue why.
The performance and battery life are pretty close once you get the new Rom to settle in. Idk its really up too you on what you prefer new shiny or something old but been polish up to have that little extra shine
mean Ics evo3D
I had terrible battery life after I went to ICS MeanRom. I switch to another ICS Rom, and my battery life pre-ICS returned.
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I had terrible battery life after I went to ICS MeanRom. I switch to another ICS Rom, and my battery life pre-ICS returned.
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Which other ICS rom did you switch to?
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I had terrible battery life after I went to ICS MeanRom. I switch to another ICS Rom, and my battery life pre-ICS returned.
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How long did you run MeanROM? Asking because I've read complaints where a ROM was only run for a couple hours then switched. That's just not enough time. Also flashing a ROM with a full battery seems to make a difference for me.
I went 26hrs on battery with ICS 2.4 last weekend. That's with texting, web, email, phone calls, etc. What I consider medium usage. Didn't watch any videos or play games. Wouldn't change back to GB for anything. All my apps work great. ICS itself is a tad bit slower than 4.5GB was but that's due to the kernel. Stable as can be so far
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How long did you run MeanROM? Asking because I've read complaints where a ROM was only run for a couple hours then switched. That's just not enough time. Also flashing a ROM with a full battery seems to make a difference for me.
I went 26hrs on battery with ICS 2.4 last weekend. That's with texting, web, email, phone calls, etc. What I consider medium usage. Didn't watch any videos or play games. Wouldn't change back to GB for anything. All my apps work great. ICS itself is a tad bit slower than 4.5GB was but that's due to the kernel. Stable as can be so far
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What's slower in MeanRom ICS? The transitions, opening apps, etc? Would you say 4.5 is smoother than ICS?
Clankfu just stick with GB. The only reason I haven't went back to GB because the features are hard to give up. The new youtube gui is stupendous. I personally liked GB roms better but just like someone said before it's because of the kernel. Now(if they do at all) if sprint releases their version, ICS will surpass the GB roms by a wide margin but until, GB wins hands down.
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What's slower in MeanRom ICS? The transitions, opening apps, etc? Would you say 4.5 is smoother than ICS?
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Loading apps, but by like 3 seconds.
ICS
I haven't had any problems with MeanROM's ICS. It works rather well for me. Then again, I think there should be a rom review board to get people's opinions so we can at least have a top ten, finding a rom you like has become daunting being that it seems anyone can cook a rom now of days.
I'm still running the last official release (GB), and was curious if users with the latest RUU leak have had better battery life over the stock Rezound.
In a short word, no. Sense 3.6 removes power menu options to be able to switch to economy mode, so I think I use more power now.
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Nonsense.
Nils' ICS 3.6 has been solid and has had comparable or better battery life for several months now. You just have to learn how to manage your phone's power. And that experience comes with being adventurous and testing out a few Roms.
If you're going to just stay on old stock stuff, what's the point of doing the whole XDA thing? Take a chance and try things.
The opinions of others are just that: opinions.
If everyone were so apprehensive, no one would dare try anything, and we'd all be in the dark.
Latest actually feels like less battery too me. I think I'm going RUU back to GB.
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BBEgo said:
Nonsense.
Nils' ICS 3.6 has been solid and has had comparable or better battery life for several months now. You just have to learn how to manage your phone's power. And that experience comes with being adventurous and testing out a few Roms.
If you're going to just stay on old stock stuff, what's the point of doing the whole XDA thing? Take a chance and try things.
The opinions of others are just that: opinions.
If everyone were so apprehensive, no one would dare try anything, and we'd all be in the dark.
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+1 my battery life is amazing. I get over 3.5 hrs of screen time every charge
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well, once in a while you should let the battery fully die and then charge it up again. it will give you longer battery life.
If you know how to save battery life, any current Rom will get decent to good battery life. Even on the sense 4 roms I can get around 3 hrs screen time
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Better Battery
The day that I took the Rezound out of the box I immediately flashed an ICS rom so I have no experience with any GB build for this phone. However, I can attest to the fact that I get fairly moderate battery life on both ICS Sense 3.6 and ICS Sense 4 roms. Average of 3-4 HRS screen time. On Nil's Sense 3.6 my phone would occasionally last for 12+ hrs but I am also overly OCD about using wifi, only allowing necessary programs to auto sync, and going into airplane mode when riding a train or in areas of low service. The top negative review I came across on the Rezound has consistently been the battery life... I have been rather surprised considering some of the things people wrote. I guess no one remembers the HTC G1!
Hello,
I'm running 2.3.6 now and I wonder if I switch to 2.3.4 will I have less battery drain? Are there any functional lacks on 2.3.4 comparing to 2.3.6? However, I use GO Launcher on rooted phone.
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Well next time please do post questiona in the general sub forum Anyway I think it is better to just update to 4.1.2 since you are rooted anyway. I get better battery life and signal on 4.1.2 compared to 2.3. My choice of a rooted stocked based rom would be NeatROM Lite by Sale :good:
I agree. Generally, upgrading rather than downgrading will increase performance so I would just go wit a higher version. Also, if you feel you have an unnatural battery drain, there are other options except switching versions to handle that. Maybe it is one of your apps that causes the battery drain. Other possibilites are sync cycles or kernel. If you switch to another kernel that might help your problems better than switching ROMs (although switching ROMs is always recommended, just for the fun of it )
gulypi which
I don't know if I am doing something wrong, but I just flashed NeatRom 5.0 and the battery life is terrible.
From my point of view, 2.3.4 stock with speedmod kernel was the best with my s2. I had battery life for 2 days. With latest roms I have battery life for max. 24h. I always did a clean install with factory reset. Don´t know why the battery life is so bad with my phone.
But now I ll give it another try. I will format the whole phone and try sentinel rom again which i liked most
NeatRom 5.0 killed my battery also. Trying 4.9 for now as I jumped from 4.6. If it's buggy I will switch back to 4.6
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Media scanner fix for battery problem on neat ROM should fix this. Also Apollo kernel is great mix with any stick Sammy ROM.
I don't know why flash modded kernels (at least if you are about to have better battery life, not other mods)? I have plain stock GB 2.3.6 XWKL1 (DDKL1) and just use Go Power Master, Set Cpu and calibrated battery.
At first when I went back from ICS to GB battery lasted for 14hrs. I charged battery fully on and battery "learned" new system and went up to 23hrs. Then I calibrated battery: fully discharge till phone went off, again started, playing till off again and again till it won't on. Then without turning it on I charged battery fully, unplugged charger, waited till battery went to 99% and plug in charger again till 100%, and again. I was using WiFi over half time of usage, flight mode at nights, play wit phone settings, installing apps, browse internet a little, use as phone as usual, listen a music a little, browse photos, etc, and battery lasted for 39hrs on stock battery which previous owner using for last two years and he didn't care about healthy battery usage. I got Samsung Extension Pack with 2000mAh Battery and flat back panel but it waits for new S2 I bought yesterday. I will put new battery after ROM flash and get all restored to state I have now, then I calibrate that bigger battery for new phone.
But anyway, question was if someone was playing with 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 stock ROM's in order to achieve better battery performance? I read somewhere that guy had over 4 days on stock battery and 2.3.4 GB. So I wonder if I switch to 2.3.4, which may be probably less demanding system than 2.3.6, will I get more time on one charging? I don't care about how it may or not look like cause I use GO Launcher anyways, but does it have same stuff and functionality as 2.3.6?
The problem with comparing your phones battery life is that it's depending on too many variables. You can't just say 'My phone lasted 30 hours with this and that usage', because everybody is using it differently. If you really want to test it, flash both versions yourself and try.
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Media scanner fix for battery problem on neat ROM should fix this. Also Apollo kernel is great mix with any stick Sammy ROM.
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Can't find "media scanner fix" in the market. Any chance of a link.
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In addition to Donnie's very good point, you're asking about 2yr+ old firmware. Do you realise how few people on a site like this are actually running firmware that old ? You'd probably find a fair number of 'ordinary phone users' out there who are still running GB because they may not be technologically au fait enough to do an OTA update.
At the end of the day, changing firmware to squeeze every last drop of battery life becomes a game of diminishing returns in that you can spend a lot of time to get that last tenth of a % of use out of every charge. You have to ask yourself is it really worth it, or is it worth simply enjoying your phone & chucking it on charge every night (or if you really chew through battery, getting a spare).
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In addition to Donnie's very good point, you're asking about 2yr+ old firmware. Do you realise how few people on a site like this are actually running firmware that old ? You'd probably find a fair number of 'ordinary phone users' out there who are still running GB because they may not be technologically au fait enough to do an OTA update.
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Well, the thing is I don't understand why people update their phones and then complain about battery life if 2.3.6 works fine from what I observe here and there.?
As per Donnie's post, there's too many variables involved to say 'This Android version will definitely give you better battery life than that version'. Personally, I get better battery life out of JB roms than I ever did out of GB or ICS roms, not that I got poor battery life out of either of those though. And the reason for that is I worked at it.
There's no magic simple A-B-C to better battery life, regardless of what rom/kernel/Android version you're running, you have to experiment & try stuff out to find out what works with the way you use the phone/have it setup.
People who complain about battery life & attempt to pin it on the particular Android version they're running tend to have a really poor understanding of 'how it all works', because it isn't that simple as I've said.
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Well, the thing is I don't understand why people update their phones and then complain about battery life if 2.3.6 works fine from what I observe here and there.?
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People can also update their phones because of other reasons than battery life. ICS was the best for me with battery usage, but after JB downgrading isn't an option for me as I would miss to many new features and other additional functions.
The choice is yours to make. If you are satisfied now, I would stick to 2.3.6 if I where you. If you are curious about other versions -newer or older- try those