[Q] CDMA- eHRPD, EVDO Rev. A, &Wifi- 2 phones different results - HTC Rezound

So, I S-offed my phone a while ago. I finally convinced my wife she should let me S-off her phone a day ago.
After S-off, I flashed the newest ICS leak (2x to make sure the RUU ran properly) and then flashed the stock deodexed rom that Scott posted.
That way she can have root, and I can remove some of the bloat apps she doesn't want via titanium and call it a day.
However, her phone is having some serious issues with 3g constantly toggling on and off while on wifi. (We don't have 4g in our area). I thought it was an issue with the kernel not flashing properly, so I wiped, and flashed it seperately. Still no change.
I reran the RUU 2x, and reflashed the stock leaked deodexed rom from Scott.
Still not changing the results. Her phone is running at least 10 degrees hotter from the constant radio toggling. Phone is reporting the same kernel and radios that I am.
Further investigation reveals that my phone is running on EVDO Rev.a, and her's is running on eHRPD. Running speedtests on the phones shows her getting 2-3x the data speeds of my phone while sitting in the exact same spot in the house.
So... any idea what's going on here? Technically eHRPD is better for data speeds as I understand it. However, if her phone is running at 104F and it's killing her battery it's not better.
For reference, my phone is also S-off, with the newest radios and kernels. I am running Rez Rom 2.1 which is a Sense 4.0 rom vs her stock deodex. As far as I can tell, mine being Sense 4.0 shouldn't be influencing the data connection like that.
Any thoughts would be really appreciated.

This is interesting,
where are you seeing which network you are connected to?

System settings> About Phone> Network.
It's listed there under Mobile network type.
Update:
I flashed her phone to the same Rez Rom s4 2.1 my phone is on, and it seems to have stopped the toggling issue.
She's still on eHRDP vs. my EVDO rev. a and the speed difference is huge.
Any ideas how to switch over to eHRDP?

If you have the 3G icon on both phones, then both phones are connected via EVDO Rev. A.
eHRPD is essentially an authentication protocol that allows switching to LTE when it is available.
Even when toggling LTE off in the network settings, the phone still connects via eHRPD. On the Droid Charge with a ROM with TSM parts, one can manually change the network selection. If you want voice, you need either 1X only mode or eHRPD 1X mode. If you only care about data, then there is an EVDO only mode. There is also the ability to force EVDO Rev 0 and still have 1X, but Rev 0 is even slower than Rev. A.
I don't think there is an easy way to change these settings on the Rezound (I'd like to know if there is.)
Generally, eHRPD is known for having data drops because of some network authentication issue. I have tried EVDO Rev A only mode and had less issues, but I have not tested this in a 4G area. Verizon may have fixed the eHRPD issues or they may not have.
Concerning your problem, I don't really have a guess what the problem could be. I can confirm that I have the CDMA selection in the network settings and that Network Speed confirms my network as eHRPD.
Procede with caution, since I am a Rezound noob: I would suggest running the RUU again along with the radios to see if it was a wonky radio flash. I can tell you that for some darn reason, I seemingly had to flash the radios on the Droid Charge several times in order fix some radio problems I had...
rgallius said:
System settings> About Phone> Network.
It's listed there under Mobile network type.
Update:
I flashed her phone to the same Rez Rom s4 2.1 my phone is on, and it seems to have stopped the toggling issue.
She's still on eHRDP vs. my EVDO rev. a and the speed difference is huge.
Any ideas how to switch over to eHRDP?
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Beat me to your post. Are you in a 4G area? What speeds are you getting? I've never seen a phone get stuck on EVDO Rev A only mode with 1X still working. Try toggling 4G on and off and rebooting.

We don't live in a 4g area.
Update again:
My phone has switched over to eHRPD and things seemed to have calmed down. I did reboot it previously, and togggle airplane mode a few times and it didnt care about changing over from evdo.
I guess the weird toggling issue on her phone brought to light another issue that might be unrelated?
Thanks for the insight xdadevnube

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[Q] No 1x when 3G not available

Sorry if this has been asked before, I could not find it anywhere...
With my Evo LTE, if I have no 3G signal, I get no data at all (not using wifi). Is there supposed to be 1x data? With my Epic, I would bounce between 3G and 1x while at work, getting about 60 Kbps (horrible I know, but at least it worked). Now with my Evo, I either get 3G or nothing. Most of the time I get an error that there is no network connectivity, where with my Epic I never got that, it just worked slower at times.
So, is it a configuration issue, does the Evo not support 1x, or could I possibly have a hardware issue? I have domestic data and voice checked.
Well, this EVO does not want you to know whether you are connected with 1x vs 3g. So, on stock it will ALWAYS show as 3g. This is why you are going from 3g to no connection whatsoever.
If you are rooted, install a custom ROM as they all have the option of including this modification. If you would like to keep your current set-up, there is a thread to walk you through the necessary changes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688413
On a side note, the EVO also gets horrible reception in general. So although you will have a better idea of what your connection is, the fact of the matter is that your reception is probably not as good as it was with a previous phone.
gdrocks said:
Well, this EVO does not want you to know whether you are connected with 1x vs 3g. So, on stock it will ALWAYS show as 3g. This is why you are going from 3g to no connection whatsoever.
If you are rooted, install a custom ROM as they all have the option of including this modification. If you would like to keep your current set-up, there is a thread to walk you through the necessary changes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688413
On a side note, the EVO also gets horrible reception in general. So although you will have a better idea of what your connection is, the fact of the matter is that your reception is probably not as good as it was with a previous phone.
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Well, at least it makes me feel better knowing that it isn't a hardware issue. My voice reception seems better with this phone than my Epic, but data, not so much. Maybe LTE will magically fix all my issues? Other than a dead pixel, screen being a little washed out compared to SAMOLED, and reception issues, I still like my phone. Not sure if the SGIII would have better data reception where I'm at. Sucks that I have unlimited data, but just can't get at it.
I'm not convinced.
the first day our two after I got my phone, I had the same problem.
I tried changing from CDMA & LTE to CDMA only. That didn't help.
I then rebooted my phone. After that, data seems to work fine. My display sometimes shows bars with 3G, and sometimes simply bars only.
Before I rebooted, it never showed 3G.
I had even started a thread about it. But it seems to work fine now.
Sent from my EVO using XDA

Dropping to 1x?

So if you don't have a custom rom you will never know this but anyone ever see they phone on 1x instead of 3g?
Mine seems to do it randomly. I will have decent signal and be doing something on the net like IM or checking email and it will just drop to 1x and snail mode, after being idle for a few min will go back to 3g.
It doe snot always do this but seems to about once a day and has happened at home and work now so not just the tower.
Just in hopes I don't need to exchange my phone or something
Again only like once a day but I just dont understand it. I am on MeanRom right now and has happened on all versions since I started on 1.5 and doubt is his rom and just that his rom lets me see the 1x now is all.
bryanu said:
So if you don't have a custom rom you will never know this but anyone ever see they phone on 1x instead of 3g?
Mine seems to do it randomly. I will have decent signal and be doing something on the net like IM or checking email and it will just drop to 1x and snail mode, after being idle for a few min will go back to 3g.
It doe snot always do this but seems to about once a day and has happened at home and work now so not just the tower.
Just in hopes I don't need to exchange my phone or something
Again only like once a day but I just dont understand it. I am on MeanRom right now and has happened on all versions since I started on 1.5 and doubt is his rom and just that his rom lets me see the 1x now is all.
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Yes!
I recently installed that LiquidSmooth ROM and now I find my phone dropping into 1X on a daily basis.
I have to turn Mobile Network off and put it back on for it to go into 3G. Otherwise it remains stuck in 1X.
What gives?
In Cincinnati I seem to see more 1x then 3g last week or so
Yes!
Mine will cycle from 4g to 1x all the time.
I've never talked bad about an HTC product but this phone sucks!
This have been a problem since the day I pulled it out of the box.
rc51rider said:
Yes!
Mine will cycle from 4g to 1x all the time.
I've never talked bad about an HTC product but this phone sucks!
This have been a problem since the day I pulled it out of the box.
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The phone doesnt suck. The network sucks. Welcome to sprint. The networks undergoing huge changes to it.
Rxpert said:
The phone doesnt suck. The network sucks. Welcome to sprint. The networks undergoing huge changes to it.
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This is not caused by the network, this is a phone or firmware issue.
I have my Evo 3d and it does not do this in same areas.
I agree the network is slow which they are working on but this 1x is the phone doing something.
I wonder if this is a result of the recent FW upgrade or not, though guess not being a previous user said from day one his did this (which not sure how he would know that for sure as people didn't know it always said 3g right away to know to modify the rom)
My rooted OG Evo used to do the same thing in the Tampa Bay area. I haven't rooted my LTE yet, but I would assume it will do it too once I root.
Ya this happens to be and the best way I can fix the problem for me is to turn airplane mode on and then turn it off and it will go back to 3g or LTE
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I'm having the same issue. Airplane mode fixes it until I find another weak signal area and it returns to 1x. It will remain in 1x again until I cycle airplane mode again--even in strong signal 55dBm fast data areas.
info if it helps
OMJ's ELTE ROM 4.0.3 v1.3 (had same problem w/viper's too)
Hardware version 003
pri 2.45_003
prl 25005
baseband 1.05.11.0606
build 1.22.651.3

Connection Issues

Since day 1 my HTC EVO 4G LTE has had both WiFi and Network connection issues. I understand the recent update was to help with the WiFi issues, but my issues with data connections still exist. My phone can be working fine, then suddently in the same area, drop the connection. It may come back quickly or after a period of time. I've started to test to see if making phone calls are prevented at the same time, and my last two tests seem to verify that as well.
I'm at a loss if this is hardware, software, or network upgrade issues. There have been so many others posting about the drop of connections, even after swapping phones, that I am not sure. Are there others on here going through, or have resolved, the data connection issues while on the Sprint network and not WiFi?
I am finding that changing my CDMA/LTE or CDMA ONLY connection to CDMA ONLY helps with my data connectivity issues.
I have Mobile Signal Widget Pro and when my phone says 3G the widget has shown 1x or an exclimation point. Meaning data problem. This has also casued a heavier then normal battery drain.
Powering off the phone and back on usually helps restore the connection but not always. I have my phone set to CDMA ONLY now and that does help..
I think theres a bug with CDMA / LTE right now.
You can use this thread to root your LTE and get the OTA that addresses your issues ~ after getting the new code, my issues with network connectivity and WiFi went away ~ Sprint also sent me a free AIRAVE (yes, you read that right), after I complained about all the Sprint phones that my corporation uses that are essentially useless at times:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Also, check out this ROM that includes the new updates, which I've flashed successfully ~ working great for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766628

3G connection issues with HTC EVO 4G LTE

My data signal on HTC EVO 4G LTE keeps dropping on and off. It doesnt matter if I am on CDMA or CDMA/LTE mode. I am located in Overland Park, KS and the 4g coverage is spotty here.
I opened a network ticket with the Technical support team. He checked my location, outages etc and concluded that it wasn't a network issue.
Then I found two more threads on cummunity.sprint.com with similar issues. I cant post URLs here due to newbie status, but if you search for 3g connectivity issues for HTC EVO, you will find them.
Per the threads, its not a device issue (swapped devices have the same issue). The OTA update that came out a few days before didn't fix it. A customer service rep also did a software reset of my phone, which didn't help either. So if its not network or hardware, then it has to be the software.
It very well could be that the HTC sense s/w has a faulty wake call for the data radio. Apparently, the 3G radio will be shut off after some time to save battery. The sleep or wake functionality in the HTC Sense for the 3G radio seems faulty.
Is there a workaround for this issue?
Install Mobile Signal Widget Pro.
I have it on mine and my device will show 3G but its stuck on 1x or the widget will show an exclimation point. Which is a data connection error.
I am in Dallas, an active LTE area. But LTE is spotty where i am at. I have noticed that if my device tries to connect to LTE it has problems going back to 3G.
Right now i am stuck with CDMA ONLY due to this bug. But i have still seen it happen a time or two, but less then when i had CDMA/LTE..
Also the only way to fix the data issue is by powering off my phone and turning it back on.
Hope this helps. I believe its a HTC / Sprint LTE bug that does need to get fixed.
Im jumping ship shortly to the GS3 if they dont resolve this.
I'm in Overland park as well. I had 4g on the 15th, although very slow and only outside. And now that isn't available. And the 3g is spotty. Always turning on and off.
It's the towers regardless of what they say.
I frequent an area that gets horrible 3g coverage despite what the spring map says. Sprint reps have given me every possible amount of BS as far as explanations. Yesterday, I turned on data roaming and after about 3 minutes, tapatalk finally loaded. Then another 3 min for a thread ro load, etc. After about 10, I had almost a 20% battery drain and my phone was about to overheat. I heard that while roaming on Verizon towers, we're only getting 1X. Is this true?
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
Its this phone for sure. I came from the Evo 3D and never had issues. The first day heading to work on this phone i noticed my 3g which always worked the entire ride and while at work, was spotty with this phone. I barely get 3g in work now. Pretty annoying. I'm using the new radios that came in the update and no change.
I had the same issue until I flashed xHausx's deodexed ROM, which includes the latest OTA fixes. That mitigated my issues, and the free Sprint AIRAVE they sent when I complained enough helped out considerably.
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Happens to me!
If I turn on airplane mode and turn it back off the problem clears and goes back to 4g or 3g speeds.
I started experiencing this problem last night and I've yet to iron it out. I've tried several things. Looking forward to a fix. Going back to the OG or the 3VO in the meantime.
Edit: For those of you still experiencing this issue (FOLLOW THE LINK IN THE POST BELOW); as well as, those of you that encounter this ... I was able to get things back to normal w/resetting the device back to factory through ##72786#. After going through the activation process (or manually reprogramming your device) you should be back on track. Hopefully someone finds this helpful. ​
Of any of you are still having this issue try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153371
Its in the evo3d forums but it still works on the evo-lte
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\=LTE
laie1472 said:
Of any of you are still having this issue try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153371
Its in the evo3d forums but it still works on the evo-lte
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\=LTE
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Something similar to this worked when I was having issues with data not turning on at all when on lte/cdma. But the issue we're seeing in kansas city here is just due to the work they're doing. It's just on n off all the time on 3g. And places where I had 4g, no longer do. The 4g I had was only pulling 1.5 down, so I think that's getting bumped up to what it should be.
I'm getting these data drops as well. I'm in Gaithersburg, MD. It was just announced that lte will be in Baltimore next month, maybe they are working on the network? I might swap this one for another but it might just happen again?
I had to reset my phone 7 times today to get data back.
Phone would drop from 4g to slooooow 3g, I turn on airplane mode and turn it right back off and BAM, 4g is back.
This is definitely a phone issue!
It's not a phone issue.. Notice how all of us seeing this are all in first run LTE areas. KC, Baltimore, Texas. We're all supposed to have 4g but don't, and the network is kicking on and off. swapping out for a new phone will not help.
It's the network, not your phone.

Borked 1x antenna?

Recently I have been experiencing, like many others, difficulty maintaining my 3g connection. It drops out at random times, sometimes staying off for 18 hours at a time regardless of reboots, flashing different roms, resetting my phones profile or reactivating my handset.
One thing I have noticed though, is the fact that my phone never goes to 1x. Ever. It's either 3g or nothing.
Do my questions. Is there a way to test the function of my 1x antenna if it is indeed separate from the 3g antenna?
If they are not separate, is there a way to reset it in some way?
I am currently running the latest radios from The good Capt. Throwback, my thought was to downgrade them and see if functionality returns.
Any ideas on how to proceed after that would be appreciated.
Mr. B.
ETA: running Jamie's latest PAC and have run PAC and RootBox almost exclusively. Stock kernel. No tweaks. Flashed latest radios about 30 days ago.
Mr.BungIe said:
Recently I have been experiencing, like many others, difficulty maintaining my 3g connection. It drops out at random times, sometimes staying off for 18 hours at a time regardless of reboots, flashing different roms, resetting my phones profile or reactivating my handset.
One thing I have noticed though, is the fact that my phone never goes to 1x. Ever. It's either 3g or nothing.
Do my questions. Is there a way to test the function of my 1x antenna if it is indeed separate from the 3g antenna?
If they are not separate, is there a way to reset it in some way?
I am currently running the latest radios from The good Capt. Throwback, my thought was to downgrade them and see if functionality returns.
Any ideas on how to proceed after that would be appreciated.
Mr. B.
ETA: running Jamie's latest PAC and have run PAC and RootBox almost exclusively. Stock kernel. No tweaks. Flashed latest radios about 30 days ago.
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Try flashing a sense rom and update PRL and profile
Sent from my PoS MoPho
Mr.BungIe said:
Recently I have been experiencing, like many others, difficulty maintaining my 3g connection. It drops out at random times, sometimes staying off for 18 hours at a time regardless of reboots, flashing different roms, resetting my phones profile or reactivating my handset.
One thing I have noticed though, is the fact that my phone never goes to 1x. Ever. It's either 3g or nothing.
Do my questions. Is there a way to test the function of my 1x antenna if it is indeed separate from the 3g antenna?
If they are not separate, is there a way to reset it in some way?
I am currently running the latest radios from The good Capt. Throwback, my thought was to downgrade them and see if functionality returns.
Any ideas on how to proceed after that would be appreciated.
Mr. B.
ETA: running Jamie's latest PAC and have run PAC and RootBox almost exclusively. Stock kernel. No tweaks. Flashed latest radios about 30 days ago.
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Jeezz...I had almost the exact same thing happen to me the other night...I had chalked it up to messing with a torrent app...but out of no where I lost my 3g connection, and it went to 1x...and the 1x would also cut out leaving me with nothing at all every 5 mins or so(the weird thing tho, is when the 1x connection would disappear I would lose the 3g symbol but in the network type it would list EvDo now...but I would not have any connection).
Naturally I was crappin my pants lol, I can't use the update profile feature on my phone, it's on Boost. So I went ahead and flashed the phone over again...Still the problem was there....So I did a factory data reset....still the problem was there....finally I went ahead and did the ##786# factory reset, flashed the phone again...Finally I was back on evdo like normal.
(BTW, my Evo LTE is now running 4.0.4 stock and there happened to be two of my friends here with their flashed to Boost Evo's, which were all running on EvDo with no issues...Plus I fired up my OG Evo 4g that is also on my Boost account and it was running on EvDo no problem whatsoever....so I knew this was some crazy issue with my Evo LTE)
I'm just glad the hard reset fixed it, I've been paranoid ever since though checking my network status, making sure I'm on EvDo lol.
Thanks for the responses. I've tried every reset I can find. Flashing the older radios didn't help either.
At this point, I'm just trying to figure out if the 1x radio is functioning. At least I wouldn't completely lose my data connection when the 3g drops out.
This happened to me when they were doing tower work in my area. Lasted a few days then I had 4g in areas I never did before.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
I can only hope that's the case, Thick. It would be the best possible outcome.
By the way, thanks for the kernelly goodness.
It's the most likely cause, sprint has really been stepping up the rollout, in less than 2 months my lte coverage has practically tripled
could be eHRPD switching, I know deck got it all fixed up in the cm10 nightlies.....are you in a LTE area?
if not try setting mobile data to just CDMA and see if it sticks. I had that issue on the early cm10 builds where it would try and switch and just drop data completely.
om4 said:
It's the most likely cause, sprint has really been stepping up the rollout, in less than 2 months my lte coverage has practically tripled
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My area in Jersey is on the short list for LTE activation in the short term, so there's a really good chance of this being the case.
kellyrx8 said:
could be eHRPD switching, I know deck got it all fixed up in the cm10 nightlies.....are you in a LTE area?
if not try setting mobile data to just CDMA and see if it sticks. I had that issue on the early cm10 builds where it would try and switch and just drop data completely.
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My confusion comes from not having 1x coverage where I used to have it. Is that coverage dropped once LTE is activated? That would explain my issue.
I have read up on the eHRPD handoffs being an issue, but since I don't have LTE coverage at the moment I ignored that as a cause. I'll check out the newest Deck build and see if that helps anything.
Thanks for the help.

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