Modems - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Which Modem is Better:
UCPLC5 or UCLD4 ?
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jonman11 said:
Which Modem is Better:
UCPLC5 or UCLD4 ?
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Depends on where you are. Try them each for a day or two and find out
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In before red5 locks this very good and informational post

jonman11 said:
Which Modem is Better:
UCPLC5 or UCLD4 ?
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Which is better:
When you search before posting?
Or when you ask questions for which threads have already been created?
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dual boot + stupid question = does not compute
Just dual boot your modems!

Shammyh said:
Which is better:
When you search before posting?
Or when you ask questions for which threads have already been created?
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Shammy wtf. Why post such hard questions?! I'm stumped.
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dirtbikerr450 said:
In before red5 locks this very good and informational post
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Shutup troll.

Lol
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Just try different ones if you don't want to then just update to the newest ones.
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lmao.....this forum is the best.
killing is my business, And business is good.

Hope you had your flame suit on.
Just try them both. All modems act differently and are dependent on SOOO many variables. Just play with em.
Surprised red didn't close this. So disappointed ha
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Yeah, I'm a little surprised he didn't close it either. That being said, I'm going to echo what everyone else said in here, and add something.
First: SEARCH
Second: Try them both, and pick the one you like.

Just tried both
jonman11 said:
Which Modem is Better:
UCPLC5 or UCLD4 ?
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Well I actually just tried LD4 for the first time, after having run LC5 for a month or so (having found LC5 to be the fastest for me - by at least 20 - both in San Diego....and near D.C., where I live. Trying LD4 today I've noticed that it seems to be more consistent in it's data speed, but probably about 10-20% (more like 10-15%) slower than LC5, for me - putting it somewhere in second place, right behind the LC5 for speed. It's pretty decent for speed, but not quite LC5 level. Just my $0.02 . I favor speed over consistency any day, but that's just cus I hate waiting.
Shammyh said:
Which is better:
When you search before posting?
Or when you ask questions for which threads have already been created?
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BTW, I'd say stfu about all the asking about posts and crap. I've looked through a few of those posts before (the ones 'that have already been posted about this'), and they all just say the same thing; test em out and see for yourself. I for instance, have tried both, and am willing to give my feedback. That's probably what the OP was looking for, so quit trolling the world and let the informative people (me in this case) give their opinion.
So now instead of just having 3 or so threads people on google will sift through to find out that no one answered their question. They'll sift through 3 or so and find out that in my personal opinion, LC5 is the fastest

VanillaCracker said:
So now instead of just having 3 or so threads people on google will sift through to find out that no one answered their question. They'll sift through 3 or so and find out that in my personal opinion, LC5 is the fastest
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Yet you FAIL to realize that what works for you, may not work for someone else in another area of the US. That is the very reason we have so many to choose from. It's literally a 5min process to swap modems. We also have a geographical modem thread. Guess you missed that one.

VanillaCracker said:
BTW, I'd say stfu about all the asking about posts and crap. I've looked through a few of those posts before (the ones 'that have already been posted about this'), and they all just say the same thing; test em out and see for yourself. I for instance, have tried both, and am willing to give my feedback. That's probably what the OP was looking for, so quit trolling the world and let the informative people (me in this case) give their opinion.
So now instead of just having 3 or so threads people on google will sift through to find out that no one answered their question. They'll sift through 3 or so and find out that in my personal opinion, LC5 is the fastest
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If you dislike the way things work around here, you're free to join and use other forums.
As stated in the previous post, we have a thread already with maps, modems, and people's (largely unscientific) opinions about which works best for them.
There is no need to be hostile. We all want the best from our phones, and that's why we're all here.
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Jesus christ guys. If you all don't have anything nice to say, don't day anything. Quit driving people out of these forums.
On a brighter note.
I hope you found a modem that works well!
The newest one (brain fart) works well for me as I have low service in my basement usually. But this modem has been pretty good.
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Moo
Shammyh said:
If you dislike the way things work around here, you're free to join and use other forums.
As stated in the previous post, we have a thread already with maps, modems, and people's (largely unscientific) opinions about which works best for them.
There is no need to be hostile. We all want the best from our phones, and that's why we're all here.
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Yeah didn't really mean to be hostile, just trying to make a point haha. I understand there is another section, and all that...although it seems not all sections show up in google. I know it's not our duty to help out the general public (people using google search) but I feel like if I am able to I might as well try. I just feel like if the thread is going to be closed, let it be closed. If not, no need to bash the people for their post, just report the thread and let that be the end of it. Sorry again if it seemed hostile, I realize the stfu acr. nowadays is going a little far haha.
Anywho,
jdbeitz said:
Jesus christ guys. If you all don't have anything nice to say, don't day anything. Quit driving people out of these forums.
On a brighter note.
I hope you found a modem that works well!
The newest one (brain fart) works well for me as I have low service in my basement usually. But this modem has been pretty good.
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Yeah I have yet to test between the two in low service type of situations or areas (basement) but I figure if I'm in a low service area, it's not gonna matter whether I have 1 bar or 2. If I want to use data at a reasonable speed badly enough, i'ma move to a better spot haha. As I stated in my last post though, LCD4 did seem more consistent

VanillaCracker said:
Yeah didn't really mean to be hostile, just trying to make a point haha. I understand there is another section, and all that...although it seems not all sections show up in google. I know it's not our duty to help out the general public (people using google search) but I feel like if I am able to I might as well try. I just feel like if the thread is going to be closed, let it be closed. If not, no need to bash the people for their post, just report the thread and let that be the end of it. Sorry again if it seemed hostile, I realize the stfu acr. nowadays is going a little far haha.
Anywho,
Yeah I have yet to test between the two in low service type of situations or areas (basement) but I figure if I'm in a low service area, it's not gonna matter whether I have 1 bar or 2. If I want to use data at a reasonable speed badly enough, i'ma move to a better spot haha. As I stated in my last post though, LCD4 did seem more consistent
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Lcd4 has raised my basement service from 1 bar to 3! Att has throttled the **** out of my data so its useless to even try a speed test. I'm constantly on weefee anyway
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Nvm cooled down real quick.
How have these compared to kh7 in your opinions? I've read kh7 has been sort of a benchmark for some of them.
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Unlocked Bootloader Coming in August?

now my German isnt very good but thanks to google translate i believe what we are all pateintly awaiting for is going to be coming in August. Since i cannot post a link for you guys (old time user, that never posts) Just do a google search for "EVO 3d nand" in the News section of google. The article that comes up as something from golem.de If a more Sr member can post links feel free to do it below mine. can anyone else confirm this?
You are just a week or two too late...this had been posted so many times already. This thread will get moved. Just a heads up!
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Everyone who flames this dude needs to relax. its his 2nd post. He made a mistake by posting something we already know, and in the wrong section. Big effin deal. Just don't even post in the thread and wait for a mod to move or delete it. Move on. His intentions were to give us info that he thought was useful. No need to be asses and make him never want to post on xda again. So he's a little behind on the news, so what. Maybe his life has had more important **** lately than bootloader news, and he was late on getting the info. So what. I'm so tired of seeing the flaming and trolling in this.forum, it is truly insane. Just friggen move along. I'm sure someone will flame my post with some retarded ass picture with a lame ass caption in it. Just so u know ahead of time, I don't give a ****.
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k2buckley said:
Everyone who flames this dude needs to relax. its his 2nd post. He made a mistake by posting something we already know, and in the wrong section. Big effin deal. Just don't even post in the thread and wait for a mod to move or delete it. Move on. His intentions were to give us info that he thought was useful. No need to be asses and make him never want to post on xda again. So he's a little behind on the news, so what. Maybe his life has had more important **** lately than bootloader news, and he was late on getting the info. So what. I'm so tired of seeing the flaming and trolling in this.forum, it is truly insane. Just friggen move along. I'm sure someone will flame my post with some retarded ass picture with a lame ass caption in it. Just so u know ahead of time, I don't give a ****.
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k2buckley said:
Everyone who flames this dude needs to relax. its his 2nd post. He made a mistake by posting something we already know, and in the wrong section. Big effin deal. Just don't even post in the thread and wait for a mod to move or delete it. Move on. His intentions were to give us info that he thought was useful. No need to be asses and make him never want to post on xda again. So he's a little behind on the news, so what. Maybe his life has had more important **** lately than bootloader news, and he was late on getting the info. So what. I'm so tired of seeing the flaming and trolling in this.forum, it is truly insane. Just friggen move along. I'm sure someone will flame my post with some retarded ass picture with a lame ass caption in it. Just so u know ahead of time, I don't give a ****.
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We are relaxed. I think it's you that needs to relax. Take your own advice and move along. If you see a new thread on old news and in the wrong section, you already know that this guy will get flamed. Why even bother commenting if you can't handle it? Btw, it doesn't matter if this is his 2nd post. He has been a member long enough to know the consequences of posting old news in the wrong section. It also doesn't matter if he got the info late. A simple search could have told him whether or not the topic was covered.
inoskedu8o8 said:
We are relaxed. I think it's you that needs to relax. Take your own advice and move along. If you see a new thread on old news and in the wrong section, you already know that this guy will get flamed. Why even bother commenting if you can't handle it? Btw, it doesn't matter if this is his 2nd post. He has been a member long enough to know the consequences of posting old news in the wrong section. It also doesn't matter if he got the info late. A simple search could have told him whether or not the topic was covered.
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Okay. Cool. I understand . Groovis.
And just an FYI...99% of the time I always do move along. I usually only post to help someone or answer a question. I have just seen so much flaming and trolling lately, and 90% of the threads here get trashed and filled with garbage , no matter what the OP was about. My personal opinion is that it is ridiculous and annoying to see. Oh well, I'm done. My opinion has been voiced. Have fun .
Edit: btw, I don't know why you even responded to me. I didn't quote you, nor did I single you out. It was a general statement to everyone and anyone that was going to flame the guy. And yea, I know the "consequences" of posting old news (especially in the wrong section) and that's why I posted. I know what's coming in this thread, and i think its ridiculous.
Okay, I'm back to only posting to help others and moving along from threads like this. Good day to all.
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k2buckley said:
Okay. Cool. I understand . Groovis.
And just an FYI...99% of the time I always do move along. I usually only post to help someone or answer a question. I have just seen so much flaming and trolling lately, and 90% of the threads here get trashed and filled with garbage , no matter what the OP was about. My personal opinion is that it is ridiculous and annoying to see. Oh well, I'm done. My opinion has been voiced. Have fun .
Edit: btw, I don't know why you even responded to me. I didn't quote you, nor did I single you out. It was a general statement to everyone and anyone that was going to flame the guy. And yea, I know the "consequences" of posting old news (especially in the wrong section) and that's why I posted. I know what's coming in this thread, and i think its ridiculous.
Okay, I'm back to only posting to help others and moving along from threads like this. Good day to all.
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I'm glad you see my point. I see yours also. We cool?
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inoskedu8o8 said:
I'm glad you see my point. I see yours also. We cool?
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inoskedu8o8 said:
I'm glad you see my point. I see yours also. We cool?
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Yes indeed, all is well.
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LOOK AT ME!
This is me not posting. This is me moving along not contributing to this thread. This is me Googling the definition of 'Hypocrite' Weeee!
Anyway, I say flame the crap out of the OP. WHY, WHY WHY does anyone think they've found or located information that is NEW to anyone here? How does that idea even begin to fester?
It should be part of the FAQ, "READ FIRST BEFORE POSTING" Don't post **** because we already know, oh and by the way, use the search function!"
nicenotrice said:
now my German isnt very good but thanks to google translate i believe what we are all pateintly awaiting for is going to be coming in August. Since i cannot post a link for you guys (old time user, that never posts) Just do a google search for "EVO 3d nand" in the News section of google. The article that comes up as something from golem.de If a more Sr member can post links feel free to do it below mine. can anyone else confirm this?
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Haha. Epic second post bro. Don't mind the rest of the board my man. We all have to start somewhere. Welcome and thanks for the laugh!
Ha ha ha ha...I quite literally read flames on those who make perceived stupid comments because it's a quick laugh. I personally think that the average IQ of most on these forums is probably a little higher than national averages...depending on the country in question of course. Regardless, that said those who flame most likely really don't care about some stupid post or late news, wrong section...blah, blah, blah...it's really about new and creative ways to flame. If they do care and are not a moderator, then perhaps they don't fall into the normal category of critical thinkers one can become accustomed too on these forums.
I've been flamed...who gives a [email protected]$t. Make your comments in the wrong section, late news quotes..whatever. This forum seems efficiently moderated, and the flames are entertaining at times. However, it does pay off to search and read.
What is this unlocked bootloader you speak of? Does that mean I can activate my Evo 3D on AT&T? OOOH...I can't wait for that! When did you say I can start using AT&T? August? I'll be watching this developmental thread to see what comes of this.
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What is this unlocked bootloader you speak of? Does that mean I can activate my Evo 3D on AT&T? OOOH...I can't wait for that! When did you say I can start using AT&T? August? I'll be watching this developmental thread to see what comes of this.
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The EVO 3d is a cdma a phone so you cannot put it on ATT. Unlocked bootloader means that we will be able to root it.
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Someone didn't get the sarcasm.
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too many smart asses dont understand what comprehension truly is. its just knee jerk flame reaction. sort of like ready shoot aim. whatever. I got your sarcasm
OneOfOne said:
too many smart asses dont understand what comprehension truly is. its just knee jerk flame reaction. sort of like ready shoot aim. whatever. I got your sarcasm
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This is why some people dont contribute at all. I too dont give a [email protected]%t if I ever made a mistake because I dont feel perfect just yet.
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All Users, New and Old.

If you've seen this video before, then you'll understand what it stands for, for the others? Watch, listen and don't be surprised when you never receive an answer.
This is a development site, a lot of effort is put into creating user friendly guides and tutorials.
In this Specific device forum, we put more effort into gathering all information and troubleshooting about this device here:
The Ultimate Guide to Everything Amaze-ing!(Amaze 4g BIBLE!) Updated Often
If it's absolutely NOT there, then find a thread similar to it and post in there, DO NOT post a new thread for every question, if you have an old thread post it there, if you have multiple questions, post it all in one post and if you have another question that comes to mind after that post, EDIT your post and add it in, DON'T MAKE THREE POST FOR THREE QUESTIONS, WE ARE NOT GOING TO READ, ANSWER, READ, ANSWER AND KEEP REPEATING THE SAME PROCESS WHICH COULD'VE BEEN DONE IN THE FIRST REPLY!
If you're too lazy to search for the answer to your own problem, then don't expect US to do it for you, we KNOW what's available and what isn't, so telling us you can't find it? Just lets us know YOU ARE LAZY.
If you're a total NOOB? I'd advise you to head over to the amaze bible, read, understand, read it again, understand and read AGAIN until you grasp the detail and understand what you're dealing with, if you don't get it? You must be a tad bit slow.
DO NOT bombard dev threads with questions, read their FAQ post, READ IT READ IT READ IT and again READ. Your question has been answered before and if you're the only one having that problem? It's obviously not the devs fault. Found a bug? If it's unique, worth looking at and it wasn't answered before, POST A LOGCAT, we aren't mind readers or magicians!
DO NOT post questions in the general forum! There is a question and answer forum for a reason, I from this day refuse to answer questions posted in the general forum, regular and advanced members should do the same, this practice has to STOP.
USE THE THANKS BUTTON
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Press thanks on every rom thread you open and download, you don't have any idea the countless hours devs spend creating the ROMs they do JUST FOR YOU to have better experience using YOUR device, though he/she is getting nada for it. Be grateful, press THANKS!
Donate to a dev if you can, a little donation is a very welcome and very much appreciated form of showing a dev their work is loved and appreciated, their countless hours of their own personal time was totally worth it and that you end users think they deserve just a kind token of appreciation for their work. It goes a long way, even if it's a simple 5 bucks, most of them are college/high school students, like many of our devs here, so hit that thanks button and donate if you can, it's very much appreciated.
Do Not PM devs or common regs or MODS unless they say they're okay with getting PM's, have a problem with a post? Then report it, not everyone wants their inbox being blown up with irrelevant questions and things that can be found in a forum, they usually have support threads, use those to let a dev know something, ONLY PM if it is absolutely important like you're-gonna-die-if-this-person-doesn't-help-you important. Got it? The reaction of some people will be VERY NICE for PM's about none sense and YOU cannot feel insulted if you get a rude response, you simply went looking for it.
I shall continue this post as I see things to be added, that is all, now go have fun reading, since that's where we learn all the basics before practice, you read read read, watch youtube videos of someone doing it. (There's a video of everything on youtube), then read read read some more, be sure and confident before attempting something you have no clue about, if you have NO clue about it, then why on earth are you about to do it? Don't be a noob, be a newb that's willing to be the next Recognized Dev/Contributor/Themer/Mod/Admin sometime in the future.
If you don't like what I have to say and think my point of view is somehwat "rude"?
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Lol I love this vid
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Yea finally someone understands its a site for development and we just allow the users to be here
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sportsstar89 said:
Yea finally someone understands its a site for development and we just allow the users to be here
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To be fair, without the end user, your product is useless, but I get what you're saying.
Dark, I see your zeal, but it is time wasted. People do what they want regardless of what is said. Some of us fought the battle and got nowhere. I always like to see someone take up the mantle tho, keep it up
For everyone else, show some fkn courtesy and listen to what is being said. This isn't xda-babysitters! I'm out!
I agree with Dark when he said
Don't be a noob, be a newb that's willing to be the next Recognized Dev/Contributor/Themer/Mod/Admin sometime in the future.
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The Amaze is my first android phone and I started getting active here in December. Look where I'm at now.
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I agree with Dark when he said
The Amaze is my first android phone and I started getting active here in December. Look where I'm at now.
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I came here as a regular member as well, very first phone I've ever actually contributed to, I'm glad I did, the work we all put in, you guys more than me has made the support on this device remarkable.
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To be fair, without the end user, your product is useless, but I get what you're saying.
Dark, I see your zeal, but it is time wasted. People do what they want regardless of what is said. Some of us fought the battle and got nowhere. I always like to see someone take up the mantle tho, keep it up
For everyone else, show some fkn courtesy and listen to what is being said. This isn't xda-babysitters! I'm out!
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But I don't make the product for you I make it for my self and I decide to share it with you
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But I don't make the product for you I make it for my self and I decide to share it with you
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Exactly.
*deletes the rest of the post before submitting*
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But I don't make the product for you I make it for my self and I decide to share it with you
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I agree. I made my Amaze toolkit for myself since I warrantied my phone in ever other day and wanted to make the process of rooting quick and easy. Then I shared it and made it better for myself.
"... If you're looking for porn, you're in a wrong site!!...." lmfaorofl
Interesting, I started getting active here in late march...... And I have over 1000 PMs lol
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EclipzeRemix said:
Interesting, I started getting active here in late march...... And I have over 1000 PMs lol
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Thanks for pointing that out, PM's are personal only.
b33j7030 said:
"... If you're looking for porn, you're in a wrong site!!...." lmfaorofl
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Haha then it says "xxxda-developers"
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I have a YouTube channel and you'll be surprised how many people message me asking them to "walk them through" the process of rooting and flashing a rom -_- I give them links and threads but that's not enough because they're "new to Android and don't feel comfortable" :/
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But I don't make the product for you I make it for my self and I decide to share it with you
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yeah, i know how xda works, ive been here for a couple years now. if you wanna be technical, youre not making any roms for "me" since i dont run any custom roms on this phone
either way, thanks for sharing :good:
Perfectly placed by a Former Senior Mod: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Bump for noobs and newbs.
I love this video, they should put it in the account confirmation email for new users.
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Biohazard0289 said:
I love this video, they should put it in the account confirmation email for new users.
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Or make them watch it in account registration so they can't register if they don't watch the whole video
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The video is pretty amusing... I don't know who wouldnt watch the whole thing haha
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[Q] Tag Swag... yea, that's right

if im feeling like my swag is through the roof one day, can i use the NFC tags (or keychain from TFD) to give a girl my number...
let's be real here, thats just me purely ballin' out all geek squad... i mean, *****es love geeks. :highfive:
dearbeloved said:
if im feeling like my swag is through the roof one day, can i use the NFC tags (or keychain from TFD) to give a girl my number...
let's be real here, thats just me purely ballin' out all geek squad... i mean, *****es love geeks. :highfive:
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I have done this lol Just grab any of the NFC apps from the play store and program a tag with your number. When the device reads it it will open up and display it. Better yet create a tag with a contact card in it complete with name and number
hahah thats what i want to do. just make it nice and pretty and run up on a girl and be like "aye bay bay, you got that NFC?"
... i swear this will be the way i meet my wife. hahaha
if a girl you are interested in knows what nfc is, has a phone with nfc, and is willing to take your info via your nfc card, you take her straight to the chapel. :good:
i just need coax someone into designing me a contact card. lol hint hint hint wink wink wink
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let's be real here, thats just me purely ballin' out all geek squad... i mean, *****es love geeks. :highfive:
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Girls may love geeks, but not assholes who think they are cool and call them *****es. So make sure you refrain from using that till she really starts acting like one.
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You're using the acronym "swag" incorrectly.
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Girls may love geeks, but not assholes who think they are cool and call them *****es. So make sure you refrain from using that till she really starts acting like one.
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I was hoping everyone would be taking this post very lightly and with a pinch of sarcasm due to the questions nature yet still being somewhat serious. I do not have a tendency to call girls names rather was referencing what I thought was a well known comedic statement. Apologies if I offended you.
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You're using the acronym "swag" incorrectly.
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No, I'm not.
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dearbeloved said:
No, I'm not.
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You are.
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You are.
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swag
can this end now?
You're using the acronym incorrectly. Swag = stuff we all get.
You're not the only person to fall victim to the idiocy of the current state of pop culture.
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Did he just use urban dictionary to try to prove something?
lol
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You're using the acronym incorrectly. Swag = stuff we all get.
You're not the only person to fall victim to the idiocy of the current state of pop culture.
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the idiocy would actually fall on you for not picking up the humor/sarcasm from other posts that have been madeand with that being said, i'll just break it down for you...
i WAS in fact making it a joke on the "current state of pop culture" by writing with the vernacular of people who use the term in their everyday vocabulary. the word SWAG is being used in a sense to describe the boost of confidence someone would feel by getting new clothes, a new haircut, car, phone, etc. the sarcasm was played on the approach in which one would hand out their number to a female in style, yet doing it in a geeky way. i wanted to still ask the question because i was curious to know, but thought it was something that was more humorous than serious. i think there would be a higher chance of someone like you (taking things on an internet forum more serious than they should be taken and bashing the person because he either just doesn't get it or just wants to feel superior by trying to correct someone) bashing the op (me) if i were to start a thread saying...
"is it possible to put my phone number on an NFC chip and let girls use their phones to get my contact instead of me doing it the old fashion way with a pen a paper"
so i decided to make it a joke, yet get a real answer.
so if you want to have the last word then go ahead and reply back, but i didn't start this thread to create an argument with someone i don't know over the internet about something that's really almost pointless. I'm not going to reply back and would much rather see this thread be closed/deleted because it's hard to watch something that could put a smirk on someones face be turned into an argument because someone just couldn't get the joke.
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Did he just use urban dictionary to try to prove something?
lol
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i was going to use wikipedia, but wanted something more credible.
dearbeloved said:
if im feeling like my swag is through the roof one day, can i use the NFC tags (or keychain from TFD) to give a girl my number...
let's be real here, thats just me purely ballin' out all geek squad... i mean, *****es love geeks. :highfive:
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That just made my day. The only downside is, THEY need to have an nfc...and if they have an iphone...good luck. lol
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I was hoping everyone would be taking this post very lightly and with a pinch of sarcasm due to the questions nature yet still being somewhat serious. I do not have a tendency to call girls names rather was referencing what I thought was a well known comedic statement. Apologies if I offended you.
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I was not offended at all. I just know there are people who think that way, and use that type of language toward women. Just ignorant types, whom will never have a real women. Apology accepted, and I'm glad you were joking. One less male chauvinist in our crew.
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You're using the acronym incorrectly. Swag = stuff we all get.
You're not the only person to fall victim to the idiocy of the current state of pop culture.
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I thought he was referring to the women he tries to pick up on as SWAG....
Waiiiiiittttt, so how would I NFC like a business card? I mean to get britches n stuff, NOT to promote my awesome business?
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Waiiiiiittttt, so how would I NFC like a business card? I mean to get britches n stuff, NOT to promote my awesome business?
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*****WARNING... Some of the following text may contain humor or sarcasm and should be approached with extreme caution. I nor anyone else posting above or below is responsible for feelings being hurt or the inability to understand such humor or sarcasm. Continue at your own risk.
Step 1: design contact card small enough to fit on nfc chip.
Step 2: write the contact card to nfc chip.
Step 3: prowl
Step 4: select target and say "aye bay bay, you got that nfc?"
Step 5: give nfc contact to attracted lady/man* or get laughed at and walk away with head down in shame**.
Step 6: you wait* or give it a day and rethink strategy**.
If one of the mods can sticky my step by step guide on how to prowl that would be very informative for some people on here.
Once I get my tags, I'll give it a whirl and post back with my research on how well this guide will work. Hopefully, I'll have a friend with me who can take video so we can study it closer. Hahaha
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This just turned into a pick-up artist thread and its amazing!
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Should I buy this phone?

I'm wondering what feedback you guys can provide on this phone. Right now I have the Evo 3D and i want to upgrade, but I don't know whether I should get this phone or the sgs3. Feedback is appreciated
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Not to sound mean or anything, but if you take a look around the threads that have been posted to this board, you're going to find A LOT of feedback about what people have to say about their purchase.
You're in an EVO 4g LTE forum.. You should totally go against everyone on here and get an SIII.
Never understood asking on here. Read the forum, watch reviews, go play with it at the Sprint store. You have a brain, don't make us choose.
Here's a good analogy... Do you ask random people on the street how well some underwear may fit? Nope, I sure as hell wouldn't. You're best course of action is to try it for yourself. Now... That said, you can't test drive underwear and bring it back if you don't like it within 14 days (well, maybe you get that option with Wal-Mart). But you can go to a Sprint store, try the phone out, even buy it and return it in 14 days if you don't like it.
As the person above said, don't let others make the decision for you.
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Here's a good analogy... Do you ask random people on the street how well some underwear may fit?
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Depends what she looks like.:fingers-crossed:
Please, no more EVO 3D people! I kidddddddd.
I think you should get these:
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You're in an EVO 4g LTE forum.. You should totally go against everyone on here and get an SIII.
Never understood asking on here. Read the forum, watch reviews, go play with it at the Sprint store. You have a brain, don't make us choose.
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Well ****, I was just asking for feedback.
I wanted to see how you guys felt with it on a day to day basis, but since some of you still have sand in that vag I guess there really is no point in asking without unecessary comments like yours.
I never asked for someone to choose for me.
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I'd definitely browse these forums for issues people are having to see if any are dealbreakers for you. I'm enjoying this phone quite a bit, myself.
Great phone. Go get it.
Additional feedback can be found on the hundreds of threads in this forum.
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funcrusher said:
I'd definitely browse these forums for issues people are having to see if any are dealbreakers for you. I'm enjoying this phone quite a bit, myself.
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Thanks
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I think you should get the pink lacy underwear....or wait...which thing are we talking about now?
Get the EVO too.
Threevo said:
Well ****, I was just asking for feedback.
I wanted to see how you guys felt with it on a day to day basis, but since some of you still have sand in that vag I guess there really is no point in asking without unecessary comments like yours.
I never asked for someone to choose for me.
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Ummm, your thread title states "Should I buy this phone?"
Please tell me how this isn't asking for help with your choice?
What I was simply stating is that there's no need to create another discussion thread asking if YOU should buy a specific phone. You should definitely go and check it out in a store, read reviews online, watch review videos on YouTube, and read through the existing threads in the EVO 4G LTE General board. There's no need to create another thread basically asking if you should buy the phone or not.
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Ummm, your thread title states "Should I buy this phone?"
Please tell me how this isn't asking for help with your choice?
What I was simply stating is that there's no need to create another discussion thread asking if YOU should buy a specific phone. You should definitely go and check it out in a store, read reviews online, watch review videos on YouTube, and read through the existing threads in the EVO 4G LTE General board. There's no need to create another thread basically asking if you should buy the phone or not.
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I really like this phone. I came from the EVO 3d as well and also had the OG EVO. I have to say that I am happy with ICS and sense 4.0. Now I am rooted running Rejuvenated ROM which is just a modified stock ROM and I am happier with stock modified than aroma installer and crazy roms from the 3D. My buddy has the SGIII and its a nice phone as well but I like Sense a little better and the feel of this phone. Its nice and solid and the screen looks crisp with the Super LCD. I hope that helps! Go to Sprint and get a hold of the phones and I think it will help you make your decision.
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Ummm, your thread title states "Should I buy this phone?"
Please tell me how this isn't asking for help with your choice?
What I was simply stating is that there's no need to create another discussion thread asking if YOU should buy a specific phone. You should definitely go and check it out in a store, read reviews online, watch review videos on YouTube, and read through the existing threads in the EVO 4G LTE General board. There's no need to create another thread basically asking if you should buy the phone or not.
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And if you read my post, I'm asking for feedback. I mean if it really bothers you then don't read this thread, simple as that.
Feedback man these forums were created so people can ask for help and such. And I'm seeking advice which you aren't providing in my context.
So you can press that back button and ignore this thread, kthxbai.
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makavelisk said:
I really like this phone. I came from the EVO 3d as well and also had the OG EVO. I have to say that I am happy with ICS and sense 4.0. Now I am rooted running Rejuvenated ROM which is just a modified stock ROM and I am happier with stock modified than aroma installer and crazy roms from the 3D. My buddy has the SGIII and its a nice phone as well but I like Sense a little better and the feel of this phone. Its nice and solid and the screen looks crisp with the Super LCD. I hope that helps! Go to Sprint and get a hold of the phones and I think it will help you make your decision.
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Thank you man, this is what I was wondering for. How's the battery life for ya?
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Battery life is a huge improvement over any iteration of other evos and most phones period..the removable battery complaint is not an issue for me..unless it dies .then ill just get a new phone..the phone is everything you want it to be..but be warned multitasking is broken ..that is my only hatred for.this device..other than that the camera , screen speed etc are great and the build.quality is top of the line
Im loving the phone I would say yes over the S3. I seen the S3 at the store and it just didn't seem like that big of a upgrade. If u can do some trading ya but not enough to use $200 on. Also don't worry about others, some act like they invented cellphones and every thread posted in XDA they have to chime in and tell you you're wrong like they own this forum. Some take it personal if they don't like the thread. Hope you get a new Evo soon!
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Threevo said:
And if you read my post, I'm asking for feedback. I mean if it really bothers you then don't read this thread, simple as that.
Feedback man these forums were created so people can ask for help and such. And I'm seeking advice which you aren't providing in my context.
So you can press that back button and ignore this thread, kthxbai.
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You can get feedback by reading threads. There's tons of threads with opinions, facts, specs, etc. There's no need to create another thread asking someone to give you direct feedback. Just seems pretty lazy. You'd rather read a thread you create that's not necessary, and hope someone actually feels like giving you their opinion, instead of just spending a little time reading one of the hundreds of threads about the EVO 4G LTE. This is literally the most useless type of thread to create...
Not to mention, I wasn't being hostile. I was giving you pointers on the best way to reach a decision. You're the one that wanted to respond back like you did:
"Well ****, I was just asking for feedback.
I wanted to see how you guys felt with it on a day to day basis, but since some of you still have sand in that vag I guess there really is no point in asking without unecessary comments like yours. " -Threevo
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You can get feedback by reading threads. There's tons of threads with opinions, facts, specs, etc. There's no need to create another thread asking someone to give you direct feedback. Just seems pretty lazy. You'd rather read a thread you create that's not necessary, and hope someone actually feels like giving you their opinion, instead of just spending a little time reading one of the hundreds of threads about the EVO 4G LTE. This is literally the most useless type of thread to create...
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And this is literally the most useless type of post to create. Dude just chill.
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Download booster

I heard somewhere down the pipelines that there was a mod to get the download booster on the sprint note 3. Is this true? If it is, how can I find it? Thanks for reading.
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??
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Don't you think there would be a thread you would have found had you searched .... No there is no working download booster for any note yet ....
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Don't you think there would be a thread you would have found had you searched .... No there is no working download booster for any note yet ....
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Are you mad bro?
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Epix4G said:
Don't you think there would be a thread you would have found had you searched .... No there is no working download booster for any note yet ....
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Wouldn't you think if I heard it from someone and saw a video on it. I would want to ask and confirm?
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Don't you think there would be a thread you would have found had you searched .... No there is no working download booster for any note yet ....
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A simple yes or no would be nice. I don't need your opinions what so ever. Well thanks for making me think more. Your the coolest bye....
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Super downloader apk, google it, use it. Does the same thing.
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A simple yes or no would be nice. I don't need your opinions what so ever. Well thanks for making me think more. Your the coolest bye....
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Wow you must be mad huh bro? If your reading comprehension was above 3rd grade . You would see I said no .... No note has it working. ..sorry I didn't spoon feed you. ..don't go crying back to mommy I don't want to hear it .
Simple search before making stupid threads and you would see others all the same thing ..:banghead::banghead:
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Epix4G said:
Wow you must be mad huh bro? If your reading comprehension was above 3rd grade . You would see I said no .... No note has it working. ..sorry I didn't spoon feed you. ..don't go crying back to mommy I don't want to hear it .
Simple search before making stupid threads and you would see others all the same thing ..:banghead::banghead:
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No one is mad. Lmao. Your pathetic coming onto the questions and answers tread and opening my tread and reading then replying to it in a non helpful way. Like I said before, I don't need your foolish opinions. If your not on my tread to help with good intentions then you don't need to be replying to my tread nor anyone elses. Note in the Questions and Answers Tread! So do yourself a favor and walk away from this. I received an answer from a helpful person. Now I'm done here. I gave him a thanks for helping me out. Now this can be closed out. Have a day. ??
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No one is mad. Lmao. Your pathetic coming onto the questions and answers tread and opening my tread and reading then replying to it in a non helpful way. Like I said before, I don't need your foolish opinions. If your not on my tread to help with good intentions then you don't need to be replying to my tread nor anyone elses. Note in the Questions and Answers Tread! So do yourself a favor and walk away from this. I received an answer from a helpful person. Now I'm done here. I gave him a thanks for helping me out. Now this can be closed out. Have a day. ??
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Now you can go back and correct your idiotic troll effort because you fail ... everywhere you said tread was supposed to be thread ... If your goingto try and troll please try to have some intelligence in what your writing our goverment education at it's best ... have a good day
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Woah! I'm going to try to defuse the situation, but I'm afraid I'm going to get caught in the explosion, so I'll address each one of you separately...
AndroidWarrior
Ok, I know you were just asking a question, but there are ways to ask which will (hopefully) prevent some of these types of responses. Note, I am not excusing Epix4G's posts, but just trying to help you (and hopefully the community) get "real" answers to their questions.
Now, let's look at your post
I heard somewhere down the pipelines that there was a mod to get the download booster on the sprint note 3. Is this true? If it is, how can I find it? Thanks for reading.
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At first glance, this follows a pretty good standard of questions. It is short, relatively clear, and polite.
What I would change is the following:
Show you're not a "noob"
Add a bit more back story to where you heard of these rumors and your search for answers. One of the reasons that people like Epix4G (and if I'm honest, myself) get upset about is answering the same question 50 times by people who have not searched for the answers themselves. If you show that you're capable of searching and finding answers, you're more likely to get an answer, if that makes any sense.
Don't bump your thread with "???"
I know you hadn't had an answer within two days. This is frustrating when you have a legitimate question. But bumping is a way to get negative attention to your post, especially if you don't add anything to the original question. In my perspective, if a question I ask isn't answered within a day or two, I either need to clarify or adjust what I'm asking. Just posting a "???" is saying "Hey, you didn't pay attention to my original question and I need an answer ASAP!!!" Personally, I would be less inclined to answer a bumped thread like that.
But if you had bumped with "Hey, I haven't received any responses yet and have been searching a lot trying to find an answer. Here is a link to something I found: LINK. Has anyone seen anything further on this?" That would be a much more compelling bump/question to reply to.
Don't feed the trolls
I know it's tough, but replying to a snarky comment will just derail a conversation and make the thread lose focus. No one wants that. Everyone involved looks like either a jerk or immature (or both). One think I do when receiving criticism (even if it's disguised in insult) is step back and evaluate if the criticism is valid. Epix4G's comment was:
Don't you think there would be a thread you would have found had you searched .... No there is no working download booster for any note yet ....
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From that, I see that he is assuming that you hadn't searched for an existing thread. Well, had you? If you hadn't, then that could be your bad. You could have found that information without asking a question. If you had searched prior to asking, maybe it'd be good to note that in your question, so that in the future you don't have those type of replies.
Don't take things too personally
Remember, to Epix4G, you're just another random name on the internet. He doesn't live next to you or see you day-to-day. He's not insulting the entirety of your being. He saw a question you posted on the internet and thought badly of it. His comment, while no one could call polite, is meant as a corrective suggestion. In his own way, he's trying to make XDA a better place. You have two ways you can respond to it: take insult, or try to learn from it.
Epix4G
Let me start be saying this: I see XDA as a community of people. I believe if people search before posting, the XDA community will be a better place. I also believe that belittling or insulting comments will hurt the community.
I, too, get tired of people asking questions without searching. I also want to tell them to get off their butts and actually search before asking. But there are ways to do that which help the community and those which hurt the community. Comedy is great and has it's place, but remember, we're not at The Ice House watching Don Rickles rail on a heckler. We're at XDA, a place where people come to collaborate and have fun messing around with their phones (and tablets).
In my opinion, a much more constructive comment would be the following:
Hey AndroidWarrior, there is currently a thread over here (provide link) which someone has asked this before. You can go over there for any follow up questions. Oh, and it'd help to do a search before posting a question, since it doesn't help having duplicate question threads on XDA.
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or the following:
Hey AndroidWarrior, there isn't a thread about this yet, and in searching, no threads mention it. So if it's not here on XDA, it's safe to say it's not working on the Note 3 yet. Where did you hear these rumors from? Providing a source would help us sort out f they are true of not.
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Short, succinct, doesn't make it a personal attack on the OP. I think the mistaken line of thinking is the following: "I need to really impress upon this person that they need to search before posting. I should do something snarky or sardonic in order to convey this." I understand that in real life, sarcasm is a great way to convey importance, but it isn't translated well into the digital space. I've found that a clear answer to their question with a short corrective statement works a lot better than a rebuff. Let's face it, people are more likely to listen to a person who is willing to help them.
In Summary
Let's all try to make XDA a better place, but let's be smart about it:
Search before asking questions
Be clear of your questions
Dont feed the trolls
Sincere help is better for a community than snarky replies.
I found this the other day. I wasnt sure if this is true. Watch "Download Booster on Sprint Note 3" on YouTube
Download Booster on Sprint Note 3: http://youtu.be/MbbfDf-swOg
I also found this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699145
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That guy is a freaking moron in that video ... He is using the s5 port rom from here and download booster doesn't work even on the s5 yet let alone the note 3 ... Here is a pic I posted and if you read the bottom it doesn't work with apps downloaded from the play store ... That is proof
The only thing on sprint that has it working is the s4 and if you flash that all it will do is boot loop ....
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I also found this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699145
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Ok, from what I can tell, this Mod is still in the very basic stages of development. IT's originally meant for the Galaxy S4 and even on theirs, it's not consistently working. In fact, after reading through that thread for a little bit, it rarely works.
The description of the Youtube video links to the Bonsai Rom. This Rom doesn't specifically talk of having the Download Booster, but in this post, the OP says that there is an option in the settings. No where in the thread does it say that it actually works.
Now, call me a skeptic, but I think the amazingly fast download speeds that the Youtuber is getting are from his Google Fiber connection. His earlier videos show him getting his Google Fiber hooked up. I'd say that unless you also are on Google Fiber, you're not going to get anywhere near the speeds he's getting, regardless of Booster working.
Just my two cents.
Anybody can download with 1gb per second Internet .... They have said to be coming to Phoenix ..... pretty please Google fiber
It's only 70 a month too
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Epix4G said:
Anybody can download with 1gb per second Internet .... They have said to be coming to Phoenix ..... pretty please Google fiber
It's only 70 a month too
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And you could also argue that if you're on Google Fiber, enabling the Download Booster could actually slow down your downloads, since it's splitting part of the file up to Sprint 4G, which, let's face it, will never get to the speeds of Fiber (or, at least not in my lifetime).
topherk said:
And you could also argue that if you're on Google Fiber, enabling the Download Booster could actually slow down your downloads, since it's splitting part of the file up to Sprint 4G, which, let's face it, will never get to the speeds of Fiber (or, at least not in my lifetime).
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According to a review I just read the Google fiber box will only allocate 200 mb to a single device ... To get more you have to add your own ac router
This guy has TV and all 125 a month lots cheaper than Cox here ...http://www.dslreports.com/comment/3910/90792
With the ping that guy has I would never lag on xbox live
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Epix4G said:
According to a review I just read the Google fiber box will only allocate 200 mb to a single device ... To get more you have to add your own ac router
This guy has TV and all 125 a month lots cheaper than Cox here ...http://www.dslreports.com/comment/3910/90792
With the ping that guy has I would never lag on xbox live
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200 Mb is still faster than I've ever gotten on Sprint LTE (in Los Angeles area), but that's either here nor there... This Google Fiber thing is really interested. I hope other ISPs get the idea that cheap, fast internet is possible. Or Google will just eventually spread across the country until the ISPs have to change.
topherk said:
200 Mb is still faster than I've ever gotten on Sprint LTE (in Los Angeles area), but that's either here nor there... This Google Fiber thing is really interested. I hope other ISPs get the idea that cheap, fast internet is possible. Or Google will just eventually spread across the country until the ISPs have to change.
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They have plans for 35 new cities Phoenix is one because of existing fiber optic cable
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