The more I think about it the sadder i get...Why do we need a dedicated multitask button? Long press of home would have been fine and they could have left a menu button or search key... Still excited about the phone but this has got me down a little.
Can we possibly remap the multitask button to menu or search when we get root/s off?
Using the One X, you'll find the menu button when needed, usually in the form of 3 vertical dots at the bottom of the screen, In apps that dont have menu.
The pain in the ass is the absence of the search button (it also has some UI presence like menu but still) Hopefully that gets tweaked.
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I too use the search button more than I multi task.
I never use search but I'd rather have menu than dedicated multitasking. Long press home would do great
I was playing with the Att one X at Walmart and I really do like how they did the recent apps menu.
I had the same feeling about the keys changing, but I vaguely remember reading somewhere that long press multitask button was search, so in okay with that...
I've never used the search button since I've owned the EVO 4G, but I often use the menu button and back button. I really rarely use the home button either. However, I'd agree that multi-tasking is an odd choice as a dedicated button. With Android's efficient methods of handling multi-tasking and memory-management, why do we need to access that screen so much? I don't see a good reason, and I don't see myself using it hardly ever.
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I had the same feeling about the keys changing, but I vaguely remember reading somewhere that long press multitask button was search, so in okay with that...
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is this true?..If so then that would be awesome sauce
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is this true?..If so then that would be awesome sauce
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Having multiple uses for one button is actually quite an intelligent idea that I would love to think that HTC had. We'll see - I hadn't read that anywhere but here. I suppose the One X forum would be a good place to check.
That's one thing I like about my galaxy nexus but I still getting the evo LTE
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That's one thing I like about my galaxy nexus but I still getting the evo LTE
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My guess is that our rooted S-off'd LTEs will have a similar custom option. Only time will tell!
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My guess is that our rooted S-off'd LTEs will have a similar custom option. Only time will tell!
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I hope
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Install AOKP immediately, that will allow you to assign multiple functions and get rid of sense. ICS is a beautiful UI I wish HTC hadn't tampered with.
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Install AOKP immediately, that will allow you to assign multiple functions and get rid of sense. ICS is a beautiful UI I wish HTC hasn't tampered with.
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I will not be doing that...Not worth it to give up features im paying for to have Ugly boring stock Android(my opinion) just to get a search key back.
Right now on my E4GT in order to take a screenshot I long press the search button and select "Screenshot UX."
Sorry for the ignorance, but is there a built in method for screenshots on ICS? How would I go about taking a screenshot if there is no search button to long press?
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Right now on my E4GT in order to take a screenshot I long press the search button and select "Screenshot UX."
Sorry for the ignorance, but is there a built in method for screenshots on ICS? How would I go about taking a screenshot if there is no search button to long press?
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Yep.
Press and hold power, then press the home button.
Ok, so we know that the multitask button and search button are one and the same, but what about voice commands? Long pressing search used to be the way. Anyone know what we do now?
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Ok, so we know that the multitask button and search button are one and the same, but what about voice commands? Long pressing search used to be the way. Anyone know what we do now?
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That is a great question I don't recall seeing asked or answered before. I don't personally use voice command but I'm curious about that as well.
To the OP. I feel HTC was just following suit with Google and they used the same buttons they have as default except its hardware based instead of software. Only downside is you can't change physical buttons dynamicly the same as software so we have to deal with the disappearing reappearing menu key. If Google gets their way app developers will change their design to fall inline with ics design language and you won't have to worry about that. Samsung interestingly chose to eschew the recent app button in favor of the menu button probably realizing this same design flaw. Of course if devs get their act together and update their apps then Samsung's menu button will be moot. If you have used Sense 4 on a Gingerbread phone you instinctively press menu but this is awkward for ics apps as their menu sometimes are towards the top instead of always at the bottom.
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Honestly, I wish smart phones would come up with a dedicated Phone button... We're starting to veer away from the meaning of a phone. I would love a phone with a hard button I can press just to bring up the dial pad.
Physical buttons are a dying breed. What's your quarrel with a soft-key phone button?
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I was using my phone today and was making a lot of calls to the same place and was really annoyed on how there is no fast way to redial your last dialed number.
What im thinking would be really helpful for nexus one users is to have a long press on the back button be a shortcut to call the last number dialed.
Now, i dont have much programing skills for this kind of job so i was wondering if i can get a developer willing to look into this.
Thanks!
or maybe force close app?
I agree. the return button should have a function to force stop from an application. or I need to do it everytime in Manage Applications settings page..
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or maybe force close app?
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that would be pretty handy also... i wouldnt mind that either.
So who is gonna make this happen?
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I was using my phone today and was making a lot of calls to the same place and was really annoyed on how there is no fast way to redial your last dialed number.
What im thinking would be really helpful for nexus one users is to have a long press on the back button be a shortcut to call the last number dialed.
Now, i dont have much programing skills for this kind of job so i was wondering if i can get a developer willing to look into this.
Thanks!
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good idea hope this gets worked on..
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this would be sweet too. maybe there could be an option ib this app or w/e to do one or another?
Actually there is a quick way to redial. If you look at the modified Phone.apk that Cyanogen uses in his ROMs, I believe its by cytown not too sure, he has an options in your settings where if you hit the call button it will retrieve the last dialed number
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My thoughts exactly.
I dunno if either option would utilize the back button well. I mean there's an app on the market called force close and it puts a shortcut in your notification panel. Just pull down the panel and hit the force close button and ur done. Though this is not accessible with apps/games that take up the whole screen, it will work with majority of the apps. I agree that it should have a function but not sure what exactly. What about an undo function? Maybe if u unintentionally paste text or delete text, just press the button to undo. Keep sharing your ideas.
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To redial, just hit the green phone button again without looking up a number.
POOF the numbers there..
Same on all phones, just hit talk again and it works.. (FROYO 2.2 confirmed)
Why not just make it remapped like we did on the G1 with the Camera button where its anything we want? It shouldn't be that different from how we did it to the G1 anyways
bright idea!
looking forward to it
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To redial, just hit the green phone button again without looking up a number.
POOF the numbers there..
Same on all phones, just hit talk again and it works.. (FROYO 2.2 confirmed)
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Why not just make it remapped like we did on the G1 with the Camera button where its anything we want? It shouldn't be that different from how we did it to the G1 anyways
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Neither of these will work on the Nexus. It has neither a call button nor a camera button. Best we can do is the search button. And there are already apps on the Market that allow you to set the search button to anything you want. So all we need is an apply that, on launch, queries the call log and sends an intent to dial that number to your default dialer app.
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Neither of these will work on the Nexus. It has neither a call button nor a camera button. Best we can do is the search button. And there are already apps on the Market that allow you to set the search button to anything you want. So all we need is an apply that, on launch, queries the call log and sends an intent to dial that number to your default dialer app.
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Sigh,
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The big green phone handle.
Long press on search with a menu pop-up with commands capable to execute
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The big green phone handle.
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yes, but you still have to go to launcher, press phone, then press the green on-screen button...
I think the OP's goal is to have a shorter way to access functions that are buried for lack of hardware buttons
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yes, but you still have to go to launcher, press phone, then press the green on-screen button...
I think the OP's goal is to have a shorter way to access functions that are buried for lack of hardware buttons
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No worries, program an app IMO.
Agreed 100%
I would LOVE to see the back button applied as a force close function...
Or am I still going to have to go back to the home screen and tap the "End All Tasks" widget?
OP: Great idea in a slightly skewed direction... I think more users would benefit from a force close function.
Would it actually be a good idea? I have to say the back button is the one I probably spam, and I wouldnt want to force close my ebuddy etc just because it didnt register the gap between my multiple back pressings.
Some programs already build "exiting" by back button in. (e.g. tvguide, astro).
Having a force close function so readily available will just introduce more headaches to applications that use states heavily.
Hi all. I'm in line to get a Galaxy S III (upgrading from my Galaxy S), but I'm kinda dissapointed that Samsung went with the 2.3 button layout (menu, home, back). I'm running ICS and the awesome multitasking menu is hindered by having to hold home for 1 second to access it.
Is it possible for a custom rom to remap the menu key to make it the 4.0 multitasking key? This phone's hardware coupled with stock ICS would be amazing, and it would be even better to be able to really get that multitasking the way it should be.
Anyway, just wondering!
I would also very much like to know that.
multitasking on the menu button and menu on long press homebutton.
+1
I too reckon the buttons should be swapped
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664041
The problem will be getting around the voice activation, so unless there are separate mappings for press, hold, longpress, then it might need some serious tinkering to fix it.
So far nobody has done it on sgs2, which has a large support forum and the same stupid button setup as sgs3, so it might take some time..
Keep bumping and keep hoping and we'll see if someone can answer our prayers. Perhaps a pm to chainfire?
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expected the same for sgs2 ics, but it didnt happened at that time, not only that i couldnt find the value for remapping the longpress part, you can easily swap the menu with home button though
If it is not possible, i'll install the mod that shows the three classic ics onscreen buttons, nexus like.
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This may sound daft but... if apps haven't got a menu button built in, how do you access options without a dedicted menu button?
I'll elaborate... ICS aimed to move the menu button from the phone to within apps themselves, so that it could be incorporated if it was needed. Now if app designers are on the ball this is great, but if you run an old app that hasn't incorporated the menu button, and the phone doesn't have one either, then what do you do?
Droid life just posted about this. Old apps that don't incorporate the action overflow function of ICS, create a black bar at the bottom of the screen with three dots for menu. Not pretty but functional.
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Droid life just posted about this. Old apps that don't incorporate the action overflow function of ICS, create a black bar at the bottom of the screen with three dots for menu. Not pretty but functional.
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I thought that was the case. You lose a lot of screen real estate for a single button - what a waste. This is exactly why I prefer the S3 key layout over the One X key layout. Until developers properly adopt the menu button into their apps it is valuable to have a dedicated hardware menu key. In six to twelve months, when all apps have been updated, this will be a non-issue and I will probably favour the HOX key layout. In my opinion anyway.
Edit: Just looked up that article you talked about. It outlines my opinion perfectly. I wrote a similar piece last month and sent it to all the major Android news sites. No one ran with it. Perhaps my writing style leaves a lot to be desired, lol.
Here's an example of the black bar we are talking about... yes it restores menu functionality, but it's a long way from being ideal.
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I'd rather have the black menu button, I really don't mind it. My other phone is a one x. And have gotten used to it. The thing is the s3 will be the best selling android phone soon, so as long as it uses the menu key, developers will see no need to make their apps ICS native style. In fact the Samsung apps themselves aren't native ICS.
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You will be surprised that Samsung's apps is actually compatible action overflow option. I successfully enabled that on my S2 and remapped the menu button to app switcher. I left a fallback option of having the menu button on long press for older apps.
I managed to do the remapping on my S3 but I am having trouble editing the framework-res to enable the action overflow button without putting the device into a boot loop.
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You will be surprised that Samsung's apps is actually compatible action overflow option. I successfully enabled that on my S2 and remapped the menu button to app switcher. I left a fallback option of having the menu button on long press for older apps.
I managed to do the remapping on my S3 but I am having trouble editing the framework-res to enable the action overflow button without putting the device into a boot loop.
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Can we remap same as you?
cm10 has implemented the button remap feature. now you can easily change the menu button long press to recent apps in cm10
I would like the power button to be a shutter button while in camera/video mode. Coming from Sony/Ericsson I really miss this feature.
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There was an option to remap hardware buttons on S3 on some AOSP/AOKP rom but now I can't find that option!
In case anybody is still wondering about this, LiquidSmooth also lets you remap hardware keys.
So heres the new release video for the note 2(which i might say looks very impressive)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOX3HYDwTCY&feature=player_embedded
The hardware is great and all, BUT what i found to be very impressive is the new software it uses.
Watch the video and look at the new multitasking UI at 2.04
The question I have is, do you think this multitasking interface will be ported to the galaxy s3?, it has the power to handle it, but the screen size might be a small issue
If not I might actually trade my S3 for the Note II. It looks great!!!!!
It looks great, but I can't see any real world use for that. Multitasking on Android was tried before with the name Cornerstone. I tried it on my Xoom, which is a 10" device, but I quickly found out it's not any better than normal way of multitasking, which is one app at a time. Humans can only concentrate on one thing at a time, anyway.
What Samsung really needs to do is get rid of the stupid physical home button, or at least put a separate multitasking key. That idiotic home button is hard to press even once, let alone press and keep holding to get recent apps. I find myself often relaunching apps from launcher rather than keeping home button pressed. That's the number one thing hampering multitasking on Samsung devices.
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It looks great, but I can't see any real world use for that. Multitasking on Android was tried before with the name Cornerstone. I tried it on my Xoom, which is a 10" device, but I quickly found out it's not any better than normal way of multitasking, which is one app at a time. Humans can only concentrate on one thing at a time, anyway.
What Samsung really needs to do is get rid of the stupid physical home button, or at least put a separate multitasking key. That idiotic home button is hard to press even once, let alone press and keep holding to get recent apps. I find myself often relaunching apps from launcher rather than keeping home button pressed. That's the number one thing hampering multitasking on Samsung devices.
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Is cornerstone an app? or a software upgrade?
I agree, an individual button for multitasking is really needed in the Galaxy S series, HTC succeeded in implementing it into their One X
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What Samsung really needs to do is get rid of the stupid physical home button, or at least put a separate multitasking key. That idiotic home button is hard to press even once, let alone press and keep holding to get recent apps. I find myself often relaunching apps from launcher rather than keeping home button pressed. That's the number one thing hampering multitasking on Samsung devices.
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That is exactly why I use Button Savior. It's really a savior.
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Nas Eiesefpi said:
That is exactly why I use Button Savior. It's really a savior.
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Button Saviour is great, but its not as pretty as the nexus soft buttons
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It doesn't really bother me cuz it's just a small arrow. Just click it to expand it.
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Button Saviour is great, but its not as pretty as the nexus soft buttons
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Also it takes up screen real estate, where as the nexus' buttons are at the bottom not over shadowing the screen
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It does take screen still, the nexus has a slightly lower resolution at apps, because they need to be cropt to gain the space for the software buttons.
A capacitive button would be the solution for my opinion. About the multitasking button, almost every rom at the one x or one s (at least afaik), has the buttons remapped to make the multitasking button a menu button.
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Try Gmd gesturecontrol...
It works very well + u can specify your own gestures for everything (3 finger pinch to home or sliding 3 fingers downward for recent apps ) :thumbup:
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true Multitasking
I tried the samsung "multi-tasking function" on the note tablet.
It splits the landscape screen in half for one application and half the screen for another application.
now that would be awesome on our mobiles.
Gesture control requires root control which i prefer to stay away from, beause i had a bad expierence with my s2 doing it
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I tried the samsung "multi-tasking function" on the note tablet.
It splits the landscape screen in half for one application and half the screen for another application.
now that would be awesome on our mobiles.
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ya thats what im looking for on the s3, hopefully once the Note II is out, developers can mimic the function and release it on the play store. Id even pay for it if it was done right!
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this is a great app when using the S-pen on our note.
its called button savior, it has some good features in the free version and even more in the pro.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5zbWFydC5zd2tleSJd
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another great app is swipe pad. its a launch pad that puts a whole new meaning to multi-tasking and its FREE
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1vYmkuY29uZHVjdGlvbi5zd2lwZXBhZC5hbmRyb2lkIl0.
This looks very cool. I will try it out.. Thank you
Button savior works great with spen....
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gmd Spen control
3 must have apps for true Spen functionality
You know I have never pulled my spen out...lol
Just tried it with this app...works great...thanks.
+1 for gmd spen control, I like button savoir but use gmd more.
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Samsung should have implemented some sort of feature similar to this app in the first place. What were they thinking when people had to reach over for the Home, Back, and Menu buttons while using the S Pen?
OP what theme is that?
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OP what theme is that?
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Apex theme, dark holo grunge, clock is "one more clock" from play store and the wallpaper is from zedge
Tapn from the 4TH dimension........ Where their are no i-phones!!!!!!
Just a suggestion, but you might want to try the free Ring Weather widget.
It looks identical to the one you're using except the weather is perfectly centered in the weather ring instead of on top of everything.
Also a great one is lmt v1.7 found on xda.
Wow, this thread just totally changed how I use my phone. Loving it so far.
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Is there a way to havean ap open when the s-pen is removed? To be specific, it would be nice to have button savior only active when the pen is out.
Morkai Almandragon said:
Is there a way to havean ap open when the s-pen is removed? To be specific, it would be nice to have button savior only active when the pen is out.
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Not that I know of. I just make the pull out tab almost transparent and hit it when I need it
edit- you might be able to set up tasker(app from the market)to do just that.
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I really don't see the need for this app. I know a TON of GN2 users like it, but I can't thing of any scenario I would actually use it. We have the physical menu, home, and back keys. We can get to the list of all open apps by double tapping the home button, and the "X" key seems useless to me. Just hit home or switch to another app? I'd love to know why you guys love this app so much.
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I really don't see the need for this app. I know a TON of GN2 users like it, but I can't thing of any scenario I would actually use it. We have the physical menu, home, and back keys. We can get to the list of all open apps by double tapping the home button, and the "X" key seems useless to me. Just hit home or switch to another app? I'd love to know why you guys love this app so much.
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Because you can't use the S Pen on the capacitive buttons, which really sucks if you use it a lot. LMT launcher is my absolute new favorite. Kill apps, set long press actions and activities, and it looks cool as s**t. It's all personal preference tho.
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It's also great if your a lefty. It can be difficult to hit the back button. You can move them anywhere you want
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I can't get double press home to open Google Now on my Note 2 with Jellybeans21 aand saber kernel. I've tried disabling/enabling it on the rom options and rebooting but no luck. I have Now installed, but not S Voice, would this have something to do with it? If so, where should I get S voice? If not, what might be causing this, and what can I try to fix it?
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I can't get double press home to open Google Now on my Note 2 with Jellybeans21 aand saber kernel. I've tried disabling/enabling it on the rom options and rebooting but no luck. I have Now installed, but not S Voice, would this have something to do with it? If so, where should I get S voice? If not, what might be causing this, and what can I try to fix it?
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what's wrong with holding down home for Google?
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Slovedon said:
I can't get double press home to open Google Now on my Note 2 with Jellybeans21 aand saber kernel. I've tried disabling/enabling it on the rom options and rebooting but no luck. I have Now installed, but not S Voice, would this have something to do with it? If so, where should I get S voice? If not, what might be causing this, and what can I try to fix it?
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As was said above me, Google Now is mapped to a long press of the home key.
I have no idea why you would want it to be a double press as that is just literally 2x the wear on a button that will eventually break.
To get S Voice installed also, do a dirty flash and select that option when prompted to select what Samsung apps you want installed.
Milimbar said:
As was said above me, Google Now is mapped to a long press of the home key.
I have no idea why you would want it to be a double press as that is just literally 2x the wear on a button that will eventually break.
To get S Voice installed also, do a dirty flash and select that option when prompted to select what Samsung apps you want installed.
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In JB 21 there is a setting to switch between google now and svoice for the double click. choose the one you want. The trick is. They don't work like regular roms. On most roms its a quick double click to get it to function. In JB it's a delayed pressed. like pressed (count 1) press again. Took me a lil bit to figure it out too.
Uiashi clee
joshm.1219 said:
what's wrong with holding down home for Google?
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Absolutely nothing, except that holding down the home button brings up recent apps.
Fun
Milimbar said:
As was said above me, Google Now is mapped to a long press of the home key.
I have no idea why you would want it to be a double press as that is just literally 2x the wear on a button that will eventually break.
To get S Voice installed also, do a dirty flash and select that option when prompted to select what Samsung apps you want installed.
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I'm fine without S noted, and I would love to have long press home for Google Now. However, long press only does recent apps for me. Was that also an option in the rom setup, or is my phone glitching?
dragonstalker said:
In JB 21 there is a setting to switch between google now and svoice for the double click. choose the one you want. The trick is. They don't work like regular roms. On most roms its a quick double click to get it to function. In JB it's a delayed pressed. like pressed (count 1) press again. Took me a lil bit to figure it out too.
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I was indeed doing a quick double press, but a long press (tried a lot of durations) isn't working either. I should have mentioned that I did try switching that setting, but no matter what it's on, double click doesn't do anything.
Slovedon said:
Absolutely nothing, except that holding down the home button brings up recent apps.
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it should look like this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Do you not have the option for google at the bottom? take a screenshot.
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