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I have a vibrant and love it was going to get my wife one but she said something about a my touch 4g could someone that has used both please give me their options thanks
Nero v3 voodoo
your posting this on a VIBRANT section, and your asking the people that own a VIBRANT which is better? their own phones, or another one?
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I think you get me.
This subject has been bitten to death here previously.
Vibrant comes stock with Eclair
MT4G comes stock with Froyo
Vibrant sports 4" SAMOLED screen
MT4G sports 3.5" LCD screen
MT4G HSPA+ (T-Mo 4G) compatible device
Vibrant HSPA (3G up to 7.2 Mbs) compatible device
There are differences in CPU - MT4G 1GHz Qualcomm Second Gen Snapdragon (better JIT optimization on Froyo), Vibrant outfitted with Samsung's 1GHz Hummingbird CPU. The GPU in Vibrant is superior to MT4G's though.
Front-facing camera and LED flash are standard on MT4G, Vibrant has no flash, and FFC requires a hardware modification if such feature is desired.
So, I hope your wife makes her choice based on what is more important for her needs.
I have a Vibrant and a MT4G and at this time I do prefer the Vibrant. The MT4G is the second one they have sent me as this phone has major screen issues. It looks as if about 40%-50% of the units have washed out screens. I had one and they are absolutely terrible. The one I received yesterday has a good screen. The good screens appear to come mostly(but not all) from China with Sony as the Mfg. A good portion of the screens that are washed out or have dust seem to be predominantly from Taiwan(that is where my first one came from) The MT4G is a good all around phone but if you are looking to root it and flash roms to me it is somewhat of a shaky process. Few roms are available for it at the present time. Am I going to keep this last one that Tm sent me? Not sure. I do prefer the Vibrant as my daily driver and also my phone to play with. If your wife just wants a nice solid all around phone than if you can get one with the good screen than it would be a nice way to go. If she is going to want a great screen and lots of choices to root it and apply roms than I would recommend the Vibrant I had the Nexus S and took it back after a couple of days as I preferred the Vibrant to it as well. Good luck with whichever one you get.
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your posting this on a VIBRANT section, and your asking the people that own a VIBRANT which is better? their own phones, or another one?
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I think you get me.
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you are just one BIG TROLL arent ya. even with 700+ post, you're still a noob starting threads ASKING FOR HELP ON SIMPLE THINGS because you're TOO LAZY to figure it out yourself.
lqaddict said:
This subject has been bitten to death here previously.
Vibrant comes stock with Eclair
MT4G comes stock with Froyo
Vibrant sports 4" SAMOLED screen
MT4G sports 3.5" LCD screen
MT4G HSPA+ (T-Mo 4G) compatible device
Vibrant HSPA (3G up to 7.2 Mbs) compatible device
There are differences in CPU - MT4G 1GHz Qualcomm Second Gen Snapdragon (better JIT optimization on Froyo), Vibrant outfitted with Samsung's 1GHz Hummingbird CPU. The GPU in Vibrant is superior to MT4G's though.
Front-facing camera and LED flash are standard on MT4G, Vibrant has no flash, and FFC requires a hardware modification if such feature is desired.
So, I hope your wife makes her choice based on what is more important for her needs.
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absolutely right on the dot. its just all about user preference....but i do like the heavy feeling of the MT4g compared to the vibrant. The MT4g feels slippery and small in my hands tho.
You can also get upgrade pricing on the Nexus S at best buy.
However, I personally don't shop at best buy, worst retail chain in my opinion.
At this point, I wouldn't purchase either phone, wait a couple months, new phones with dual core should be out.
Beniuec said:
I have a vibrant and love it was going to get my wife one but she said something about a my touch 4g could someone that has used both please give me their options thanks
Nero v3 voodoo
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I will give you my opinions since I have owned both devices.
Vibrant
Pros:
*Bigger, better screen
*A lot easier to root
*Almost can't be bricked
*Better camera
Cons:
*I can't think of any right now..
myTouch 4G
Pros:
*Physical keys (IMO)
*Trackpad
*FFC (But you can mod the vibrant to have this, but not to many people have a phone with one)
*Flash camera
Cons:
*Camera looks like a 3mp camera
*Screen isn't near as good
If you want to know something more.. Just ask me
I paid $200 for the vibrant, and $480 for the myTouch 4g
That could of changed my opinion also I guess... But I returned the MT4G
would wait as well, currently using a vibrant which was cheap $160, unlocked it for local carrier. Tempted to drop internet services at home and us tmobile mytouch 4g as a hotspot for 4g services. Vibrant is nice, solid android phone, but something new is coming out shortly so just wait
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you are just one BIG TROLL arent ya. even with 700+ post, you're still a noob starting threads ASKING FOR HELP ON SIMPLE THINGS because you're TOO LAZY to figure it out yourself.
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You are just a kid in a man's body aren't ya. even with 1000+ posts your picking on other people for asking questions, i never said i'm a professional and i know how to do everything.
Theres a reason theres a question for Question and Answer section, i do both, when i need help, i search and if i can't find my situation then i post a thread.
have you checked how many threads that i've answered questions on?
Your just a moron.
Just so i stay on topic,
The vibrant has everything that a my touch has except a few things, and they aren't too big of a deal, mostly the front camera, but you can mod your vibrant and add that too.
I suggest vibrant, but like i said, ive never owned a mytouch, i've seen it and don't like how it looks, but i say vibrant because i dont have mytouch
Well, I switched from my Vibrant to a MT4G just a couple of days ago and am very happy.
If she is someone who could care less about gpu performance and custom ROMS, then the MT4g is a better choice.
Personally, I'll certainly miss the better screen, but I won't miss much else. Everyone in this forum section knows the various issues with the Vibrant and the MT4G isn't without it's own. So it comes down to personal preference.
Stock vs Stock performance for everyday use, IMO, is no contest with the MT4G winning this battle. And of course, for me, the even more important thing is GPS performance. Not contest there either (this is MY experience ONLY, and MY OPINION).
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I ask this because I am a vibrant owner and have never touched a mt4g and want an answer form people who have used both phones because I think the vibrant it a great phone and nothing beats it. thanks for the advise it helped.
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Beniuec said:
To start off brian your a **** I ask this because I am a vibrant owner and have never touched a mt4g and want an answer form people who have used both phones because I think the vibrant it a great phone and nothing beats it. And for for everyone else thanks for the advise it helped.
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how am i a ****? i never said anything "****" to you. i just agreed with one person who said something actually comparing the 2 and i added onto it.
the **** would be the rider kid basically saying,"youre asking which phone is better in a vibrant forum..." which is definitely not constructive AT ALL. i might as well go into the g1 forum and say the iphone is better.
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You are just a kid in a man's body aren't ya. even with 1000+ posts your picking on other people for asking questions, i never said i'm a professional and i know how to do everything.
Theres a reason theres a question for Question and Answer section, i do both, when i need help, i search and if i can't find my situation then i post a thread.
have you checked how many threads that i've answered questions on?
Your just a moron.
Just so i stay on topic,
The vibrant has everything that a my touch has except a few things, and they aren't too big of a deal, mostly the front camera, but you can mod your vibrant and add that too.
I suggest vibrant, but like i said, ive never owned a mytouch, i've seen it and don't like how it looks, but i say vibrant because i dont have mytouch
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and have you checked how many threads i answered? lol you cant call me a moron WHEN YOU HAVE 4+ PAGES OF THREADS jsut because YOURE TOOO LAZY! lol hypocrite. i dont even have 1 page of threads posted because I ACTUALLY READ AND SEARCH. PLUS! you didnt even know what formatting your SD CARD would do...AND YOURE CALLING ME A MORON? that must make you a cretin. GOffMD .. youre the one coming into this thread acting like a bigot.
yes there is a Q&A section, but theres always a SEARCH button as well...utilize it.
and as far as the MT4g and Vibrant goes...its all about your situation and user preference. im happy to keep my vibrant esp when im due for an upgrade in May,but MT4g is capable of data speeds up to 14.2mbps with a stock front facing camera( vibrant FFC mod does not work for every FFC application). Plus the MT4g has LED flash which is an important feature to some people.
oh and BTW, tmobile is said to debut new details abt their 42mbps HSPA+ plans at this years CES
Sorry brian
Can get a,mytouch 4g in trade for vibrant and $40
So I just bought a Vibrant last week.
Then Samsung/Tmobile releases news that a vibrant 4g is in the works.
Now I'm on the fence on whether to sell my Vibrant and pick up a Nexus S.
I love the vibrant, especially in rooted and custom rom form, but I'm not a coder and terrible at understanding how this works so making a custom rom for myself is kinda out right now.
But like most people on this forum, I'm not happy with the fact that Samsung has kinda abandoned the customers that originally bought the first iteration of the Galaxy S from tmobile.
I've noticed that support for the phone from developers on xda has taken a subtle downturn.
I really really appreciate the efforts of tw and other dedicated developers, but without source code for vibrant for 2.2/2.3 and other android versions, how long can developers keep this up for?
I didn't want the nexus s as I see it as another galaxy s phone (fragmentation anyone?), but with its vanilla android versions and constant support from Google, I see it having longevity over the Vibrant.
I figured if Samsung were to release official froyo for the vibrant soon then nothing to worry about, but with the impending release of the vibrant 4g.......well hopefully you understand what I'm getting at.
Am I completely off the mark on this one? Is there something I'm not understanding? What are your guys/girls opinion?
Dude, there is Android 2.3.1 from Nexus S ported to my old HTC HD2 and it's working fine and bug-less. Meanwhile you are waiting for 2.2, who is a *****?
woah woah, exploit.. calm down
Any ways, back to your dilemma, i think sticking with the vibrant is what u shood do personally, but if you have the money to afford a nexus s i say go for it.. rite now i dont have to worry about the vibrant 4g or nexus competing with my vibrant cuz there all basically the same, it kinda jus matters where your at. If you have 4g coverage go get a 4g phone, if not stick with the vibrant and install a FFC and you basically have a Vibrant 4G or Nexus S
If you just bought it last week, take it back. You can get the Nexus S now with that upgrade or wait for the Vibrant Plus.
If you keep it, you will be kicking yourself in a few months when you can't take it back anymore.
It still depends on where he lives, the Vibrant is a true competitor phone and with sum serious development it cood be one of the best. The only thing it lacks is the 4g that the Nexus S and Vibrant plus have which if he doesnt even have 4g coverage it wont matter if he has 4g
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It still depends on where he lives, the Vibrant is a true competitor phone and with sum serious development it cood be one of the best. The only thing it lacks is the 4g that the Nexus S and Vibrant plus have which if he doesnt even have 4g coverage it wont matter if he has 4g
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Thats where the dilemma lies, serious development.
Is it going to persist for at least the next 6 months to a year?
Even the nexus one has strong support from 3rd party developers, I would hate to see the vibrant disappear into yesterdays technology so quickly because of a lack of developer support.
btw, I've tried understanding some of this geekspeak, but my knowledge on this stuff is too rudimentary for me to make my own rom.
Technology I love you, but why are you doing this too me?
I won't be getting 4g coverage anytime soon, but its developer support that makes the horns of dilemma rear its sharp points towards me
yeah thats what im hoping for too is long term development, but think about the Behold 2.. it was only sposed to get 1.6 and out of no where got 2.2.1
And to make sure that development doesnt stop with the vibrant im going to be trying to learn all the stuff that it takes to build roms and do all that fun stuff..
Dont worry i wont let you down
You get 14 days to return it no questions asked! No need to sell it!
If you're having second thoughts just return it and wait for the new one!
Personally I would wait for the new phones with dual processor like the LG or something like that!
The Vibrant is so 2010! Lol!
I love my Vibrant, but I know something bigger and better is around the corner!
Just my 2ยข!
Rockin that Nero 4.1 w/Voodoo + s.b.g.2.3
Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
yeah but then even after that sumthin big and better comes around another sumthing big and better comes around... so no matter what you do ur gonna be S.O.L.
they wont abandon the vibrant.. i wont at least.
seriously the Behold 2 2.2.1 rom is absolutely mind blowing since samsung dropped it with only android 1.6
it jus shows that anything is possible with todays technology
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Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
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Yeah, this is exactly what I'm trying to avoid doing. I'm Canadian, tmobile doesn't operate up here, but we have an AWS provider that offers unlimited plans. So its a buy and sell situation here. I won't have any problems selling this phone but it can be a hassle.
I love this phone.
Its slick, fast, and has everything I need except proper software.
Dglowen I hear you brother (or sister). I want to be optimistic about this phone and I think it'll continue having support, but I have a feeling it'll be fringe support rather then mainstream.
Man I need to learn to code.......
don't get the 4g if you're going to return your vibrant. get the nexus S. the new vibrant is not worth it.
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quest4fire said:
Take it back while you can. The Vibrant is a GREAT phone and still is very capable but since you just started your contract you should return it because it appears that Samsung is kicking Vibrant to the curb in favor of the Plus. The Plus is starting out with Froyo while the Vibrant is still stuck on Eclair. I dont know what the Devs will do but it wouldnt surprise me if they abandon the Vibrant.
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Haha, "starting out" with Froyo? Based on Samsung's history, good chance 2.2 will be the last official release for it.
If he gets the plus, won't the plus be the ugly stepsister in a few months when Samsung wants to push their next phone.
Take the Vibrant back and wait.
If I was in your sitch I would use the return window. If you have a handset that you can use for the time being wait for the dual core that should be coming.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Yeah idk.. i think that keeping a vibrant wood be worth it but its always kool to have the latest fone out too.. even tho i been sayin keep the vibrant, it wood make more sense to get the newer fone
Whatever I decide, I just hope that the support for this phone continues and doesn't disappear quietly into the night. It definitely deserves official and mainstream support imo.
Hello everyone I need some help deciding if I should get the Photon 4G or the Epic Touch? I really want the Photon but I'm a little worried about the pentile display,the lag and random reboots I've been hearing about. I'm worried about the Epic Touch because of the weak reception, plasticky hardware, and I also don't know if the 4.5 in screen is just too big? What do you all think?
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My Photon works great! No real lag and never randon reboots.
However, I am thinking of getting another phone because the Photon does not have nearly as much develpment as some phones do.
And I am eager to try ice cream sandwich (which is already available on the Nexus S, Epic Touch, etc.)
The pentile screen bothers me only rarely. I think the better your eye sight is, the worse it looks. For me, it only looks pixellated when my glasses are on ;-)
Good point the development for the photon does seem lacking
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Random reboots are a gingerbread thing. Just about every GB phone has that problem, some more than others. I've had 1 in the month and a half I've had my photon. Epic Touch is great from a computing standpoint, that's where it really wins. However, the support from Samsung is very lacking. They have quite a few issues, especially loss of signal, where they have to be rebooted to get signal back. Photon works better as a phone, and still very good as a computer. Touch great as a computer, not so great as a phone. Development may lack here, but it's not as necessary yet (until software and programming start to overload the hardware, about a year).
The display difference is very noticeable, as I came from an Epic. After a couple weeks, however, I didn't really notice anymore and it definitely doesn't bother or annoy me.
Futuredev.tjb said:
Hello everyone I need some help deciding if I should get the Photon 4G or the Epic Touch? I really want the Photon but I'm a little worried about the pentile display,the lag and random reboots I've been hearing about. I'm worried about the Epic Touch because of the weak reception, plasticky hardware, and I also don't know if the 4.5 in screen is just too big? What do you all think?
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I have had a stock ROM rooted Motorola Photon 4G since it's launch as well as the POTAUs and haven't had any issues with mine regarding response lag or device reboots and the PenTile matrix display doesn't phase me any. If you need an Android OS based device and travel internationally, I'd go with the Motorola Photon 4G. If you want an ultra thin Android OS based design with a screen size just under a 2" difference short of the Galaxy Tab, go with the Samsung Epich Touch 4G.
my photon reboots atleast twice a day.I'd go for the epic touch if I could do it again.
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Photon... Some people on here don't look good enough in the development section.. OC kernels a very stable Cm7 with everything working.. And that even have a oc 1.4 kernel to it... You can push out 40 different roms with maybe 1 or 2 tweak differences.. Lot of the devs been working quietly.. And there's something cold .... Hmmm .. Lol.. But honestly the photon is a great device best in my book for sprint radio and build wise.. The ET is ok just don't trust Samsung anymore.. The reboots not happening with me unless they do when I'm sleep. Just get a photon my word you won't regret it..
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Are you sure the photon is worth it?
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I came from epic touch to photon. Personally i have had a lot of issues with samsung phones. The major one (hopefully fixed by now) was the loss of service issue. Thats why i got the photon and i dont regret it at all.
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The photon is a much better device, better build quality, better wireless radio. The original Epic 4G just got officially updated to Gingerbread a couple weeks ago so that lets you know how bad samsung is when it comes to supporting there phones. If you've ever owned a samsung phone you know about the cheap plastic feel they all have. Question is would you rather have a bigger screen or a better phone?
I actually bought a near mint used photon off eBay as I got tired of waiting on Samsung to push put GB for my Epic as my family's cheaper phones were getting GB. I have not had a single of the issues that have been reported. Crosses fingers. Never had a random reboot. The battery life is amazing! As soon as an ICS port comes out, I'll likely root it. I have looked at the ET4G, but would be hard pressed to leave my photon for it. Just my opinion. You'll find pros and cons for both. The photon runs every app that I needed from the market flawlessly. It is an excellent phone.
I love my photon haven't had a problem since i got it(week after it came out). We just need more devs.
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to do what ??
port CM7 ? (almost done and almost official.. then I suspect work on MIUI may follow)
build kernels for overclocking ? (done.. we're stable to 1.4)
for themes ? (got plenty of that going on)
or here's a harsh statement. join the dev crowd. Then we'll have another one.
A device's quality is not measured by the development community behind it. A device's quality is measured by how well it works and the support it receives from it's manufacturer.
Most of the development communities for some of the other devices are re themed copies of 1 or 2 different ROMs and a tweak or 2 here or there.. most of the 'devs' in the other device communities are "cut/paste' devs.. they copy and paste different parts of several ROMs together, package it and call it their own.
What we have here in MoPhoLand are several VERY talented devs that collaborate and really BUILD their software enhancements/improvements. Sure they ask for help along the way when they run into an obstacle but who doesn't ?? Personally I got sick of flashing ROM after ROM after ROM on my Epic just to get this feature working properly, or get away from that bug etc.. IMO the selection of enhancements that are available for the Photon are very good quality. CM7 is very usable, we also have a couple overclock kernels. what more do you need ?? The device is great just rooted stock.. anything else is just taking something really good and making it great.
(steps off high horse and goes back into hiding because I really get annoyed by people that feel an entitlement yet no desire to learn or help)
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to do what ??
port CM7 ? (almost done and almost official.. then I suspect work on MIUI may follow)
build kernels for overclocking ? (done.. we're stable to 1.4)
for themes ? (got plenty of that going on)
or here's a harsh statement. join the dev crowd. Then we'll have another one.
A device's quality is not measured by the development community behind it. A device's quality is measured by how well it works and the support it receives from it's manufacturer.
Most of the development communities for some of the other devices are re themed copies of 1 or 2 different ROMs and a tweak or 2 here or there.. most of the 'devs' in the other device communities are "cut/paste' devs.. they copy and paste different parts of several ROMs together, package it and call it their own.
What we have here in MoPhoLand are several VERY talented devs that collaborate and really BUILD their software enhancements/improvements. Sure they ask for help along the way when they run into an obstacle but who doesn't ?? Personally I got sick of flashing ROM after ROM after ROM on my Epic just to get this feature working properly, or get away from that bug etc.. IMO the selection of enhancements that are available for the Photon are very good quality. CM7 is very usable, we also have a couple overclock kernels. what more do you need ?? The device is great just rooted stock.. anything else is just taking something really good and making it great.
(steps off high horse and goes back into hiding because I really get annoyed by people that feel an entitlement yet no desire to learn or help)
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Well i guess you are right that a lot of other "devs" are copy and paste, and that i should also learn how to do what i want seeing it's well what i want.I guess the only thing i'm really waiting for is unlocked bootloader w/ 4g Seeing i live in a 4g area and it is really nice to have. So i should have been more careful on choosing my words instead of just saying "we just need more devs". Also learning how to create stuff for phones sounds like fun, seeing i love to learn stuff like this and I've learned basics of java and looked into c++ just because it was interesting to me, It's just since my son was born, working full time and spending time with my wife kind of eats all my time, I can almost never work on my car or even clean it cuz i'm so busy now a days. So to wrap things all up, yes we do have a great devs and i should learn to help myself instead of asking for people to do it for me. But if someone was doing it for me i'm willing to wait.
Futuredev.tjb said:
Hello everyone I need some help deciding if I should get the Photon 4G or the Epic Touch? I really want the Photon but I'm a little worried about the pentile display,the lag and random reboots I've been hearing about. I'm worried about the Epic Touch because of the weak reception, plasticky hardware, and I also don't know if the 4.5 in screen is just too big? What do you all think?
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No lags for me.
Reboots once a week - but my HTC phones did that too. It's an Android SW issue, not a HW issue.
I love the Pentile display, but some hate it. See it for yourself.
Sammy is cheap and plastic to me.
I tried the 2 phones side by side in a store - Moto much better on data speeds.
4.5 is not an issue to me - really doesn't seem big.
You didn't mention the showstopper for me - the lower resolution for the Sammy. That alone kept me from buying.
For those of you experiencing random reboots, does it ever happen to you when you are talking on the phone? This is a big problem for me.
Deff go with the Photon. I bought it used off Ebay and have had no issues. I came from an Epic 4g and ill never go back to Sammy again. They dont support their device and when an updates thats been promised for months finally comes out it breaks the GPS. I have a friend with the Epic Touch and he hates it. Its a good phone but there is a severe loss of service issue that Sprint and Samsung have no idea when it will be fixed. On my old epic I had 1 bar of service in my house now I have 4 bars. I love this phone. Best part about it in my opinion is the fact that Google bought Motorola so we should be seeing an update to ICE relatively soon.
just say no to crapsung!
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One of the main downfalls i can see for the photon if you use 4g and your lazy (like me) and don't wona do the long way to get ROMs on
Hey guys, long time android user here. Started out with the G1, then the Galaxy S, then a Viewsonic Gtablet, and am currently on a galaxy nexus and a transformer prime tablet, and have rooted and flashed multiple roms on each and every one, thanks to the wisdom and guidance found in the XDA community. My question is this: my wife is currently with tmobile and her 2 year contract is up. I want her to come to verizon with me (for many reasons) she will be coming from a HTC G2. Would you recommend this phone? I know it may be hard to be unbiased on this but please try. I've never had a hummingbird processor before, and the 8mp camera beats my 5mp on my nexus (at least on paper). She does heavy web browsing, google searching everything under the sun, not much on gaming, but we have a four year old that loves to use our phones for games so that wouldn't hurt. The main thing she uses it for is the camera, and video camera. Could some one possibly make me a short list of pros and cons as you have found them to be while using this phone as a daily driver? There is no one i trust more then members of the XDA community so your oppinions on this phone will pretty much make my decision for me, thanks!!
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Hey guys, long time android user here. Started out with the G1, then the Galaxy S, then a Viewsonic Gtablet, and am currently on a galaxy nexus and a transformer prime tablet, and have rooted and flashed multiple roms on each and every one, thanks to the wisdom and guidance found in the XDA community. My question is this: my wife is currently with tmobile and her 2 year contract is up. I want her to come to verizon with me (for many reasons) she will be coming from a HTC G2. Would you recommend this phone? I know it may be hard to be unbiased on this but please try. I've never had a hummingbird processor before, and the 8mp camera beats my 5mp on my nexus (at least on paper). She does heavy web browsing, google searching everything under the sun, not much on gaming, but we have a four year old that loves to use our phones for games so that wouldn't hurt. The main thing she uses it for is the camera, and video camera. Could some one possibly make me a short list of pros and cons as you have found them to be while using this phone as a daily driver? There is no one i trust more then members of the XDA community so your oppinions on this phone will pretty much make my decision for me, thanks!!
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Short answer: Nope and I would not recommend Verizon either if you have any other choice.
This phone is outdated and no longer vendor supported, the boot loader is locked so its hard to get custom ROMs done and the stock GB android can be slow and now is 3 versions behind. Moto will not provide any more updates.
if you're doing it for monetary reasons, its an OK phone. You'll get an older higher end phone for $50 (07/14/2012) rather than a newer cheapo or freebie. It wasn't terribly successful due to the Bionic & Razr coming out shortly after and both offering more.
As mentioned above, OE support is dead. We have a nice community here with two ROMs that are still supported though.
Eclipse is rock solid stable and based upon the current 2.3.5 release from motorizon. There is also the alpha release of CM9 which will give you ICS. There were others but they haven't been updated.
As for the previous comments on Verizon, I wouldn't go anywhere else. The only other carrier in my area is ATT and if you actually want coverage you go with Verizon.
If I was getting a phone today I'd go Razr or S3.
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if you're doing it for monetary reasons, its an OK phone. You'll get an older higher end phone for $50 (07/14/2012) rather than a newer cheapo or freebie. It wasn't terribly successful due to the Bionic & Razr coming out shortly after and both offering more.
As mentioned above, OE support is dead. We have a nice community here with two ROMs that are still supported though.
Eclipse is rock solid stable and based upon the current 2.3.5 release from motorizon. There is also the alpha release of CM9 which will give you ICS. There were others but they haven't been updated.
As for the previous comments on Verizon, I wouldn't go anywhere else. The only other carrier in my area is ATT and if you actually want coverage you go with Verizon.
If I was getting a phone today I'd go Razr or S3.
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Like I said, if you have any other choice , Otherwise give the devil his due. I use Virgin Mobile with better services at half the price of Verizon
DigitalMD said:
Like I said, if you have any other choice , Otherwise give the devil his due. I use Virgin Mobile with better services at half the price of Verizon
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Half the price, really? How many lines and what type of plan?
Thanks,
This phone is over a year old. Why would you choose this phone over newer ones? This phone isn't all that great. If you use it as is, its still buggy. The devs here make this thing worth having. But even then, devs are moving on to other devices now and Motorola isn't even giving us an official ICS update. So unless you plan on hacking this phone up for her, I wouldn't recommend it.
EDIT: A lot of people here are switching to to HTC Droid Incredible or the Rezound.
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This phone is over a year old. Why would you choose this phone over newer ones? This phone isn't all that great. If you use it as is, its still buggy. The devs here make this thing worth having. But even then, devs are moving on to other devices now and Motorola isn't even giving us an official ICS update. So unless you plan on hacking this phone up for her, I wouldn't recommend it.
EDIT: A lot of people here are switching to to HTC Droid Incredible or the Rezound.
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because if you have $50 to spend this is a way better phone than say a Wildfire or something else thats $50
oh, and I actually just had family up, who is unfortunately considering switching away from virgin mobile to verizon because their phone quit working 60 miles away.
Move to West Virginia, Sprint and Virgin thrive and narry a Verizon or T-Mob tower in sight
Hey everybody, I'm looking to upgrade to a new phone tomorrow and I've got my sights set on the DNA I just had some questions I'm hoping current owners could help me out with. I know most of these answers are spread out through multiple topics but most are polluted by trolls with other phones bashing HTC so I was hoping to get some consolidated answers from actual owners.
First of all for those that currently have this phone, what are the current drawbacks and issues you're dealing with (besides the storage issue and the battery there's been enough discussion about this already)? Are there any deal breaking issues? Are you gonna stick with it or are you looking to switch to another phone?
How is the overall performance of the phone in day to day use, like web browsing, texting, occasional gaming, video watching etc?
With the current S-On limitation how does that affect actual user operations? Can you still use root explorer to side load apps remove bloat etc? Can you use titanium backup to its full extent, freezing, removing, and converting system apps?
As for the development scene, I know there's been a lot of discussion about this and its hard to foresee future development but are there a lot of developers working on this phone? Is there a place we can actively follow development like Twitter or IRC?
I'm coming from a Droid X2 which has a very limited dev scene, basically we had one amazing dev that was able to make our phone even remotely useable, got cm9 and 10 running on a gingerbread kernel haha. Most devs and even Motorola itself abandoned this phone only a few months after it was released I hope to avoid a situation like this again so having an active dev scene is important to me.
Anything else I should know before jumping aboard?
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Battery life and performance have both been stellar. I use my phone heavily through the day for web browsing, texting, a few phone calls, streaming videos, and I can make it through a whole day without any issues. My phone has yet to lag or hiccup, and it's always running smoothly. The build quality is superb, and the edge-to-edge glass is extremely pleasant. I can't really comment on your questions about S-ON, as I have yet to root my phone. Even without root though, it's easily surpassing my expectations!
Kagedin said:
Hey everybody, I'm looking to upgrade to a new phone tomorrow and I've got my sights set on the DNA I just had some questions I'm hoping current owners could help me out with. I know most of these answers are spread out through multiple topics but most are polluted by trolls with other phones bashing HTC so I was hoping to get some consolidated answers from actual owners.
First of all for those that currently have this phone, what are the current drawbacks and issues you're dealing with (besides the storage issue and the battery there's been enough discussion about this already)? Are there any deal breaking issues? Are you gonna stick with it or are you looking to switch to another phone?
How is the overall performance of the phone in day to day use, like web browsing, texting, occasional gaming, video watching etc?
With the current S-On limitation how does that affect actual user operations? Can you still use root explorer to side load apps remove bloat etc? Can you use titanium backup to its full extent, freezing, removing, and converting system apps?
As for the development scene, I know there's been a lot of discussion about this and its hard to foresee future development but are there a lot of developers working on this phone? Is there a place we can actively follow development like Twitter or IRC?
I'm coming from a Droid X2 which has a very limited dev scene, basically we had one amazing dev that was able to make our phone even remotely useable, got cm9 and 10 running on a gingerbread kernel haha. Most devs and even Motorola itself abandoned this phone only a few months after it was released I hope to avoid a situation like this again so having an active dev scene is important to me.
Anything else I should know before jumping aboard?
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apparently you can't mess with system apps without having s-off, on reboot, everything comes back.
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apparently you can't mess with system apps without having s-off, on reboot, everything comes back.
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First of all I have been loving my device so far. I am a pretty heavy user, but the battery gets me through the day no prob, and I currently have the clock set to 1.826GHz. S-off only matters while you are actually booted into android. You can't write to the system partition while booted into android, but you can write to it while in CWM or TWRP. This still allows you to debloat etc, it just isn't half as convenient with S-ON. Custom roms are slowly trickling out as well. They are still pretty similar to stock currently but I am sure more and more changes will come over time.
Performance on this phone is stellar. It never lags or slows whatsoever. There are some apps that haven't been updated to support 1080p (angry birds star wars for example crashes as soon as you open a level.) The only real drawback is that the radio interface layer has not been cracked yet, so we can't get AOSP style roms like Cyanogen. People are working on it, its only a matter of time. Also at least one person claims to have a viable method to get S-Off but it won't be released for a while still if it is true.
Kagedin said:
Hey everybody, I'm looking to upgrade to a new phone tomorrow and I've got my sights set on the DNA I just had some questions I'm hoping current owners could help me out with. I know most of these answers are spread out through multiple topics but most are polluted by trolls with other phones bashing HTC so I was hoping to get some consolidated answers from actual owners.
First of all for those that currently have this phone, what are the current drawbacks and issues you're dealing with (besides the storage issue and the battery there's been enough discussion about this already)? Are there any deal breaking issues? Are you gonna stick with it or are you looking to switch to another phone?
How is the overall performance of the phone in day to day use, like web browsing, texting, occasional gaming, video watching etc?
With the current S-On limitation how does that affect actual user operations? Can you still use root explorer to side load apps remove bloat etc? Can you use titanium backup to its full extent, freezing, removing, and converting system apps?
As for the development scene, I know there's been a lot of discussion about this and its hard to foresee future development but are there a lot of developers working on this phone? Is there a place we can actively follow development like Twitter or IRC?
I'm coming from a Droid X2 which has a very limited dev scene, basically we had one amazing dev that was able to make our phone even remotely useable, got cm9 and 10 running on a gingerbread kernel haha. Most devs and even Motorola itself abandoned this phone only a few months after it was released I hope to avoid a situation like this again so having an active dev scene is important to me.
Anything else I should know before jumping aboard?
Sent from my MB870 using xda premium
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If you do not root and install a custom Rom there will be drawbacks. Htc pour many annoying persistent notifications throughout the phone. Most notably Wi-Fi. It is always in the notification drawer with Wi-Fi on or off. This is the same with GPS although that is only a small symbol. Also you lose much screen real estate with a three dot menu button that loves to appear. Both these issues are fixed in the custom Roms. These are the only drawbacks.
Battery is great. I make it through the day and I am always using my phone. Performance is better. I have not used any other device this smooth and fast even with the most intense games and apps. And the benchmarks are fun to brag about.
S-on is a problem. You can't use most of the titanium features besides backup and restore. Doing anything besides freezing system apps causes the apps to return after a reboot. Many people use the twrp recovery as it allows you to delle system apps with its built in file manager.
Developers are getting better. The ukb room to me is the best in terms of features and things that will be added. I would follow that thread and in general just check the development section every other day
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I am assuming your on verizon. If you don't mind the sizing get the note 2 over the dna. It maybe 100 dollars more but since you seem to be a long term phone guy I would go with the note 2 instead. I do own both btw. Couple reasons:
#1 Battery performance will degrade in the next 2 yrs, that's an easy solution with the note 2.
#2 You might be able to live with the 14 or 13gb of free storage there is, I can kind do it with compromises. Right now I have one rom, one back up, 351mb of music, 154mb in pictures and I am down to 3.28gb available with 2 big sized games I guess. Seeing that you like to flash roms, mods so forth 16gb might not be enough.
#3 Battery life in my experience is decent, not stellar but decent. On par with my S3 but not as good but close.
It's a good phone, feels good, screen looks great but once the initial drool of the display goes away you start considering what you compromised to get this phone. I like this phone a lot and I will be replacing it with a HTC butterfly (due to the sd slot) but my note 2 will still be my favorite. Oh in terms of S3 vs DNA, I would take the DNA lol. S3 display is great but the pentile bothers me and since my s3 was a us version it was gimped.
Thanks for all the information about the performance, drawbacks, and development info of this phone. Nycdarkness thanks for those points about the Note II I'll be keeping that in my mind. I'll be heading down to the Verizon store to check them out it'll be nice to be able to make an informed decision my last phone I didn't do much research and ended up regretting my decision for the last year haha
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It's an excellent excellent smartphone, a million times better than my galaxy nexus. I don't store 100 hours of music on my phone, only ten or so albums and rotate them periodically between cloud and on device. I guess I'm not a huge music head but I don't have any concern about the storage.
Comparisons between the DNA and Note 2 are silly since they're so different by nature. One is a stylish satchel, the other is a duffel bag. If you need the storage, get the Note 2.
Well just wanted to say I went ahead abs and pulled the trigger on the DNA. So far I'm loving it very fast and responsive I played with the Note II but the size turned out to be more of an issue than I thought just wanna thank everyone for the info and I look forward to being a part of this community
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Kagedin said:
Well just wanted to say I went ahead abs and pulled the trigger on the DNA. So far I'm loving it very fast and responsive I played with the Note II but the size turned out to be more of an issue than I thought just wanna thank everyone for the info and I look forward to being a part of this community
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Enjoy it cause it is one hell of a phone. What i like most is that it doesn't feel phablety at all compared to the note II I just love how it feels like a phone I've always loves HTC devices and I love sense always have always will. In a way sense has kinda spoiled the android experience for me because when i try out other OEM software i just can't get myself to like it the closes I've come was pure Google. I do enjoy it just not as much as sense
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I love everything about the phone especially the look of the thing.
Basically I'm superficial when it comes to tech stuff.
My 27" iMac with MM-1 Bowers & Wilkins speakers are as much, and more, about looks as they are about function and performance.
I own the DNA because it is simply the best looking (and feeling) smartphone currently on the market.
And since I exchanged my original (defective call quality) DNA set I am now happy.
It's a solid phone, you can't go wrong with it.
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