Hi
Did anyone know when htc going to release an official version to evo 3d gsm?
they won't be....all current devices from the one series onwards are sense 4.0 while all older models will b 3.6.
it's because of something called imagesense in the new line up that is critical to sense 4.0
But i like my evo & dont want to upgrade him... they r such a b....
If (i choose if instead of when on purpose) they release all the sources and stuff for the evo3d ics release (which should be arriving sometime in june iirc) at some point, then there should be fully working sense 4.0 ports possible - or thats what i think i read on here in one of the many ics threads.
The guy newt has a 4.0 rom over in the dev section. I'm excited about it, probably going to jump to that on next release. 3.6 just seems like a retread or a retrofit to me. I've always hated sense, hoping 4.0 can change my mind.
I use ics 4 with sense 4 (with a lot of bugs), i belive its will change ur mind...
apparently its also because they dont want people who have an existing version of sense 3.0/3.5 to have "too many changes" from their current Sense experience
Sense 4 has many graphical differences that might freak people out perhaps...
Shame - they could have released it as an option perhaps like an RUU for devs only
or since there are a lot of changes for GB -> ICS anyway they should have just taken the plunge and moved all to sense 4
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The guy newt has a 4.0 rom over in the dev section. I'm excited about it, probably going to jump to that on next release. 3.6 just seems like a retread or a retrofit to me. I've always hated sense, hoping 4.0 can change my mind.
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I highly recommend switching to it sooner than later. I have always liked Sense, but Sense 4 is on another level, in my opinion. There are a few small issues on Newt's ROM, but it's still a very stable daily ROM to use. I'm sure once the Sprint ICS update comes out, those issues will disappear and there will be no reason to use anything else(unless you're a AOSP kind of person, I guess).
Hi All,
just wondering - when (if) we will get ICS with sense 3.6, is it really hard to develope stock ROM (ICS one) to have sense 4.0? Is it requires a lot of development and effort to make it (errors, bugs)?
Thanks.
well when i used to be using the Desire HD, they began bringing in bits and mods for sense 3.0 into the 2.1 ROMS, so given time there will be a full port of sense 4.0 or mods integrated into 3.6 to make it look like sense 4.0
sense 3.6 RUU (the virgin media one) is out already so HTC will release other RUUs aswell based on country carrier etc etc. just a matter of time always is
afaik the... lets call them "drivers" of the 3d screen are dependant on the specific version of sense framework so if HTC dont release sources or a specific build it will be difficult to port to sense 4.
for the camera it should be easier.
Newt's Rom with sense 4.0 is great. The only reason I had to switch back to 3.6 is the Bluetooth issues 4.0 has right now. BT is critical for me.
When the BT issues are cleared up, I will be all over that ROM.
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Chuck_IV said:
Newt's Rom with sense 4.0 is great. The only reason I had to switch back to 3.6 is the Bluetooth issues 4.0 has right now. BT is critical for me.
When the BT issues are cleared up, I will be all over that ROM.
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Feel the exact same way. Sense 4.0 looks very pleasing over 3.6
Ran newts Rom for a week and couldn't hang without the Bluetooth. I drive company truck and with cell phone laws here in school zones its a 200$ fine if u go through a school zone and get caught with the phone up to your ear.
As soon as it is cleared up I'm going back. Hoping the release of the evo lte will help tie all the loose ends on that Rom.
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Ok, here is the deal.
Currently in limbo between carriers and phones....
In the past week, I have used/own a TMobile HTC Glacier (myTouch 4G), an HTC Shooter (EvO 3D), and now a Thunderbolt (wtf is the real name of this?).
On my Glacier, I used evil D's Desire HD port (0.33). Was pure Sense (1.84 I think) and I loved it. No real bloat, no real customizations that wasn't done by me, nothing to irk me. Worked well and didn't break anything.
On my EvO (OG) I used a stock rooted ROM. Once again, worked well and I just uninstalled bloat I didn't want.
On my Shooter I used stock... (cries)
Anyways, I am looking for a pure sense (i liked 1.84 - I dislike 3.0) ROM that has everything working for my nice shiny Thunderbolt. I did read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081930 and I still don't know which one to go with... I also do not want to flash ROMs left right and center.
P.S. - I don't mind Froyo or GB... but I do want working netflix and skype.
So, does anyone have any ideas for me?
I would try one of the Bamf 2.1 ROMs, there are three different kinds. There's a customizeable one (remix I believe), a non-themed sense one (NTE), and a stripped one which is senseless. The Bamf 2.1 ROMS run on sense 2.1, although a Sense 3.0 ROM is available. They are gingerbread, which is the only way to get netflix working on Thunderbolt, you'd have to flash one of the GB Radios if you wanted service though.
I would suggest one of the theory roms. He offers a suger free version which has much of the sense elements removed. If that's not to your liking there is always cm 7.
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I would try one of the Bamf 2.1 ROMs, there are three different kinds. There's a customizeable one (remix I believe), a non-themed sense one (NTE), and a stripped one which is senseless. The Bamf 2.1 ROMS run on sense 2.1, although a Sense 3.0 ROM is available. They are gingerbread, which is the only way to get netflix working on Thunderbolt, you'd have to flash one of the GB Radios if you wanted service though.
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So I guess GB is it then, since that is needed for netflix to work. Oh well... Weird it worked on the OG EvO with Froyo...
On to check out the Bamf series...
rad187 said:
I would suggest one of the theory roms. He offers a suger free version which has much of the sense elements removed. If that's not to your liking there is always cm 7.
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No, I want to keep sense.. (i am one of those weird ones that likes it...)
i like using the BAMF sense 3.0 roms
its currently on rc4
i get about 10-12 hrs of battery life on this rom with imo's leankernel on extreme
and screen state settings on setcpu
The thunderbolt is the Htc mecha, and I suggest cm7 with the mr2 radios if you have reboots on mr1. Great battery life, buttery smooth, and the next release should come with 4g without toggling.
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i really like the SYNERGY rom 3.0. it's senseless but you can add the sense with a simple file flash. it has a really nice black/blue theme. really stable for a nightly.
download website
http://infectedrom.com/showthread.php/393-★-☆-★-ROM-JUN-25-SynergyROM-NIGHTLYS-2.3.4-SENSE-3.0-★-☆-★
and the xda forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003891
just go to last page and not download the virusrom airborne, you want the synergy 3.0 and the 3d effects.
Bamf 1.8.6 froyo is great http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150064,
as well as gb bamf 2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131735
for sense 3 I've found chingy's build best on themikmik.com gingeritis 3d beta build
Welcome to the Tbolt. I don't think you can really go wrong with any of the BAMF 2.1 ROMS. They are all stable, smooth and fairly bug free.
All of the devs around here are damn talented though. So you might find yourself flashing more than you thought you would just to get a taste of what they are all doing.
Hey everyone! I'm currently on a Sense rom but I might change to an ICS rom once it becomes more stable. What do you prefer, Sense, or Ice Cream Sandwich?
Well right now all 3 of the roms out are still in an alpha stage, so if you're looking for a complete, finished rom.. stick with Sense 3.5 roms. I'm running JoelZ Alpha4 ICS rom and it's butter smooth and I don't regret flashing it. I'm using it as my daily, ISC is beautiful. Camera, and 4g don't work yet on all of them. And they're each missing something else.
oh ok, so you think ics is better for speed and stability?
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When I was on stock my phone was lag-free and smooth, and JoelZ rom replicates that. It doesn't crash on me hardly, really smooth, there's obvious works in progress but overall it's beautiful. Data/sms works, but I can't send/receive pictures and there's a few other glitches. If you can live without camera and 4g go for it.
Sense is also in ICS.
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Sense is also in ICS.
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The current 3 current ICS roms are sense roms? I know one of them is built from source code, which doesn't contain Sense. In fact, I don't see a hint of Sense (except the removal of onscreen buttons if that counts).
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The current 3 current ICS roms are sense roms? I know one of them is built from source code, which doesn't contain Sense. In fact, I don't see a hint of Sense (except the removal of onscreen buttons if that counts).
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I misunderstood the ops question, disregard.
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I have been running JoelZ's ICS Rom and love it. For an Alpha stage ROM, JoelZ has this thing running very nicely and has hardware acceleration working as well. As was mentioned earlier, no Camera, no MMS, no 4g, and a few other items, but if these are not required by you then this is an excellent ICS ROM to try if you have an interest in ICS.
ICS is a huge face-lift for the Android OS in my opinion. I am very pleased with it thus far. If you are the type of person that want a full 100% working ROM, then I would give this a little more time before giving it a try. If you don't mind not having a few of the missing features then I would say have at it. ICS has really impressed me thus far.
Yeah only bad thing about most sense 3.5 roms is missing 3d and 4g which has been said above. I like the Nocturnal Roms especially Blackened 2.5.0. I will stick with them until sense 3,5 ports have the bugs worked out.
If you dont mind living without the camera & 4G get an ICS rom first, try it out and give a test run.
I'm looking for opinions for the best ICS based rom that utilizes all or maybe just the most of the effects. More than any other phone I have played with I love this camera and its stock effects.
I'm new to actually posting, went from Nexus one -> Nexus S -> HTC Rezound Im not a noob but I did Main vers glitch myself FML and I am tired of flashing roms and keeping track of boot imgs. Any help is appreciated!!
polovash said:
I'm looking for opinions for the best ICS based rom that utilizes all or maybe just the most of the effects. More than any other phone I have played with I love this camera and its stock effects.
I'm new to actually posting, went from Nexus one -> Nexus S -> HTC Rezound Im not a noob but I did Main vers glitch myself FML and I am tired of flashing roms and keeping track of boot imgs. Any help is appreciated!!
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All of the ICS Roms are good. The ones I've used are CleanROM ICS, Nils Business ICS, RezROM ICS, Joelz new Sense Redefined. They're all amazing ROMs in their own respect. You want stock 4.0.1 with Sense 3.5, you'll want CleanROM ICS. You want that plus some theme work, you'll want Nils or RezROM ICS. You want 4.0.3 with some Sense 4.0, you'll want Joelz ROM. They're all good. I haven't tried anything else but these, but they're amazing ROMs with the stock camera effects that you're looking for.
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All of the ICS Roms are good. The ones I've used are CleanROM ICS, Nils Business ICS, RezROM ICS, Joelz new Sense Redefined. They're all amazing ROMs in their own respect. You want stock 4.0.1 with Sense 3.5, you'll want CleanROM ICS. You want that plus some theme work, you'll want Nils or RezROM ICS. You want 4.0.3 with some Sense 4.0, you'll want Joelz ROM. They're all good. I haven't tried anything else but these, but they're amazing ROMs with the stock camera effects that you're looking for.
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I haven't heard of an ICS Rom yet that has camera effects working. Not sure we will until we have a new beta build to play with...
Some of the effects work. Grey scale, negative and some others. I couldn't get the digitizer to work and some other effects.
I have found that you can apply the affects from the gallery with no problem. I don't think the problem will be fixed until we have an official update.
i've been seeing screenshots of the ICS leaks, they all show sense 3.6. am i right in assuming no OTA sense 4.0 for the rezound?
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i've been seeing screenshots of the ICS leaks, they all show sense 3.6. am i right in assuming no OTA sense 4.0 for the rezound?
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correct but there are very awsome sense 4 roms
Yep unfortunately so... I'm using pokemon so I don't really care at this point.
bummer. ROM flashing was like crack when i was using my Inc2. i guess won't be kicking the habit after all.
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i've been seeing screenshots of the ICS leaks, they all show sense 3.6. am i right in assuming no OTA sense 4.0 for the rezound?
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Sorry, but no such luck. HTC in there infinite wisdom has been using the new sense versions as a selling point for new phones. So even though the Rezound will get ICS, it will be with Sense 3.6. The good news is though, you can use a custom ICS ROM that has Sense 4.0 like this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630696
Just a suggestion.
If I could just interject with a question of my own...
are these Sense 4.0 roms fully working? I thought I heard that the radios or something didn't work on ICS ROMs but I really don't know what the hell I'm talking about
Just only a small quirk here and there. They work very well and can run them as dailys.
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If I could just interject with a question of my own...
are these Sense 4.0 roms fully working? I thought I heard that the radios or something didn't work on ICS ROMs but I really don't know what the hell I'm talking about
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Radios work, wifi works. Animations not so much, it has some strange quarks like wifi will randomly give out and the keyboard for me sometimes just stops working. Has to be lock screen on/off'd.
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Just only a small quirk here and there. They work very well and can run them as dailys.
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That's really a grey area imo, for heavy use it's not good. It bogs down quick and just seems like it'd be best to wait awhile before claiming it as a replacement for your daily driver. I wouldn't count on it in any situation where you have to have your phone.
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Radios work, wifi works. Animations not so much, it has some strange quarks like wifi will randomly give out and the keyboard for me sometimes just stops working. Has to be lock screen on/off'd.
That's really a grey area imo, for heavy use it's not good. It bogs down quick and just seems like it'd be best to wait awhile before claiming it as a replacement for your daily driver. I wouldn't count on it in any situation where you have to have your phone.
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I am running Rezrom S4 2.1 (sense 4) as my daily driver. Besides bluetooth not working 100%, i have had ZERO issues, no reboots, no lags, no force closes. No camera issues (i tale lits of pictures), i use go-keyboard so i have no issues with in that area. I have never dropped my wifi while at home or public. i prefer unlocking my device with lock screen versus other methods using stock lockscreen. If there is issues i have not found them or i do not use the apps that cause the errors.
For me, this rom is definitly ready for everyday use. Results will vary for each user.....
My advice try both sense versions and all of the roms before making a judgmebt based off other users experiences.....
Good luck.
The newest pkmon works almost 100%. It is smooth, good battery life, no real downsides over sense 3.6. It is an upgrade to move to pkmon.
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So i got my DNA last week and have been playing around with it for awhile (trying several different roms) but i havent found one that fits me perfectly.
I'm looking for one that is desensed
remap hardware keys
Works with Verizon (though 99% of them do)
Beats audio enabled
HTC keyboard (though i can go without)
The two closest i've gotten is VipersDNA and the Unofficial CM port.
I really like CM only real problem is that beats doesnt really work with it (and i know it has dsp but just doesnt sound as well and i cant get eq perfect)
Viper is almost perfect besides a few nitpicks (I miss my scrollable wallpaper and dont like user a different launcher on top) and i prefer the task manager on CM a bit better (though ive never had the phone lag once which is amazing i like hitting recent and closing all apps, but i can easily go without)
Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried several others but can't find one just right...
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So i got my DNA last week and have been playing around with it for awhile (trying several different roms) but i havent found one that fits me perfectly.
I'm looking for one that is desensed
remap hardware keys
Works with Verizon (though 99% of them do)
Beats audio enabled
HTC keyboard (though i can go without)
The two closest i've gotten is VipersDNA and the Unofficial CM port.
I really like CM only real problem is that beats doesnt really work with it (and i know it has dsp but just doesnt sound as well and i cant get eq perfect)
Viper is almost perfect besides a few nitpicks (I miss my scrollable wallpaper and dont like user a different launcher on top) and i prefer the task manager on CM a bit better (though ive never had the phone lag once which is amazing i like hitting recent and closing all apps, but i can easily go without)
Anyone have any suggestions? I've tried several others but can't find one just right...
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Every phone runs things differently in all reality best to try them all yourself. For me its nos or nos gpe
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Every phone runs things differently in all reality best to try them all yourself. For me its nos or nos gpe
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I tried nos gpe earlier today but had a few to many bugs for me, or I did somthing wrong. It had data connection but my 3g 4g icon wouldn't show and no hardware key remap. And kept giving me no service icon but I could make calls , but that one is super close too
I am on CM 10.1 Right now. Only gripe is the camera, not nearly as good as stock sense since it isn't the sense camera but i can live with it. Some of the customization features dont work either. I wouldn't say it is perfect but it is getting there and the DEVs are doing an amazing job for something that is free. Im just waiting for the bugs on GPE to be worked out so I can switch to that.
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I'm currently on EclipticNA by Hawknest. It's Sense 5 based so you still have Beats Audio and the HTC Keyboard. All system apps and some user apps are blacked out and inverted, which I love. This ROM is VERY fast, and with Crpalmers kernel it's faster than light! For desensing, just freeze or uninstall Sense, and use whatever other launcher you want. Recent apps button is remapable. There's "press for recents", "press for recents, hold for menu", and "press for menu, hold for recent".
Other than that, when all the kinks in Newt's GPE ROM get worked out, that would be good for your needs.
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Romwise
Firstly I wanna start out by saying that having to post 10x before i can post to help development is annoying. But i do understand why. So im posting this as my first post to start my way to be able to help development. Im currently rocking a Droid dna. Roms Ive so far liked for this phone Ill list with a brief reason why in order.
1. Team Venom Viper rom. Fast stable and mods out the bum. No issues
2. EclipticNa inverted. Best sense 5 rom to me. Fast stable and saves so much battery with the invert
3. Supercharged hatka. Pretty fast decent mods. And stable.
Ive flashed and used 8 of the roms from xda for the dna so far. When Im able to post for development Ill start giving detailed reviews and helping the devs out. U guys can help a guy out by giving me a thumbs up or something. Thanks.
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I tried nos gpe earlier today but had a few to many bugs for me, or I did somthing wrong. It had data connection but my 3g 4g icon wouldn't show and no hardware key remap. And kept giving me no service icon but I could make calls , but that one is super close too
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There is a new version of NOS GPE out, version 1.0.3, which fixed all the force reboot and data issues for me, all I had to do was cycle airplane mode two or three times for it to pick up Verizon's connection. Smoothest ROM I've tried so far.
It makes sense that it would work well, because it's coming from an AOSP rom made by HTC for the One. I've had problems with small things not working on other custom ROMs, like HDMI. GPE 1.0.3 has no issues like that so far.
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There is a new version of NOS GPE out, version 1.0.3, which fixed all the force reboot and data issues for me, all I had to do was cycle airplane mode two or three times for it to pick up Verizon's connection. Smoothest ROM I've tried so far.
It makes sense that it would work well, because it's coming from an AOSP rom made by HTC for the One. I've had problems with small things not working on other custom ROMs, like HDMI. GPE 1.0.3 has no issues like that so far.
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I believe it's Sense based to look like AOSP, hence the name Google Experience.
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I believe it's Sense based to look like AOSP, hence the name Google Experience.
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According to newtoroot it's the HTC version of AOSP 4.3 made for the Google Play Edition of the One, so it should be as close to stock as possible..... It also has no hints of sense in any of the apps or menus....
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According to newtoroot it's the HTC version of AOSP 4.3 made for the Google Play Edition of the One, so it should be as close to stock as possible..... It also has no hints of sense in any of the apps or menus....
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Except for beats that's from sense, not aosp, and if it were pure aosp it wouldn't be 400megs, it'd be like 150. Its desensed from HTC, that's it. It also works quite well, and rather then being bland and boring (to me) it is a very excellent choice for non sense but pretty perfect running.
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Except for beats that's from sense, not aosp, and if it were pure aosp it wouldn't be 400megs, it'd be like 150. Its desensed from HTC, that's it. It also works quite well, and rather then being bland and boring (to me) it is a very excellent choice for non sense but pretty perfect running.
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True, I guess ultimately it's the best AOSP ROM available for the DNA, although I'd love to see a team like Venom come out with a more custom experience based off of it.
"Anandtech's Brian Klug discovered that both the Developer Editions of the HTC One and the Samsung Galaxy S 4 will not receive software updates directly from Google because they're not running pure Android Open Source Project (AOSP) software, but instead a combination of the OEM kernel and the stock Android skin. As a result, the Google Play edition devices may not receive new Android versions as quickly as standard Nexus devices."
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...one-and-galaxy-s-4-arent-quite-nexus-devices/
I'm still wondering what other "stuff" is in the Google Editions; pure AOSP is under 200 MB, add gapps which is under 100 MB, and then there's _____?
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Except for beats that's from sense, not aosp, and if it were pure aosp it wouldn't be 400megs, it'd be like 150. Its desensed from HTC, that's it. It also works quite well, and rather then being bland and boring (to me) it is a very excellent choice for non sense but pretty perfect running.
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newts work gas always been top notch. when something goes wrong, he has it fixed asap. pretty quick about it too. been following since my dinc2 days
-HTC Droid DNA-
If your looking for a Sence 5 Rom , you must try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44076330 by hawknest, it is a beautiful rom
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newts work gas always been top notch. when something goes wrong, he has it fixed asap. pretty quick about it too. been following since my dinc2 days
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I had issues with version 1 and 2, but 3 has been on my phone since he released it and only had an initial data issue (put the phone in airplane mode twice and it fixed it)
Hopefully by now he OP has narrowed down his choices, so continuing with another subject that came up: why have an original development and a development forum?
Is the distinction that an original development ROM is compiled from source even if the ROM has cherry-picks from another ROM and is based on something such as CM, while the development forum are for ROMs that are ported from one device to another which is made to fit over the Sense base since there is no public Sense source to compile from, or is a modification of a manufacturer's ROM?
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Hopefully by now he OP has narrowed down his choices, so continuing with another subject that came up: why have an original development and a development forum?
Is the distinction that an original development ROM is compiled from source even if the ROM has cherry-picks from another ROM and is based on something such as CM, while the development forum are for ROMs that are ported from one device to another which is made to fit over the Sense base since there is no public Sense source to compile from, or is a modification of a manufacturer's ROM?
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Built from source = original development
Built from a factory ROM or otherwise pre compiled image, including from other devices (this covers current MIUI as well) = development
The Roms in development because they have cherry picks but are source built should be in original development, but whatever the mods decide I guess.
That's how I understood it when it was originally posted by XDA when it started.
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