I have a X10a on AT&T network. I used the 2.6 flash tool made by Androxyde and Bin4ry to flash the Rogers 2.1.1.A.0.6 yesterday march 26.2011. Everything seems to be working good so far....My question is when i plug the phone in to the wall charger it will say "no sim card in phone" just above the unlock slider. anyone have any ideas why that is showing up now? The other thing that i have noticed is periodically 2 red "x" will appear in the status bar in place of the signal strength bars and in place of the 3g data symbol. oh and instead of showing the 3G on the status bar it has a "H" instead. Has anyone else seen this happen? thanks
Don't know if you should be using Rogers branded firmware on AT&T network. It probably has something to do with that. It's looking for a Rogers sim card. Try flashing generic instead.
The H is better than 3G. It's more like 3.5g. You know the new 4G network being advertised HSPA.
Ok thanks for the info. I was considering flashing the 2.1 Generic but wanted to get some advice since i am what you would call a noobie.lol I pretty much did a bunch of reading and "winged it" through the flash process praying i didn't destroy my phone.
Yes, use the x10a global generic. I don't know if the newest update is available yet, but in many people's opinion 2.1.A.0.435 is better for AT&T. The new 0.16 update baseband is causing battery drain and connection problems. With global generic you will most likely get the official 2.3.3 Gingerbread update Sony just promised in a few months first.
Edit: you seem to have it down, but there is a new version of flash tool 0.2.9 that has some new features. You can root, enable JIT, install xRecovery, and remove Sony bloatware that is slowing down your phone. That may sound Greek right now, but they are the next natural things you will want to do. Check your private messages for a detailed guide with links to the downloads. It may be of some help.
Once again JBM I really appreciate your guidance with this. I have been reading alot and think i'm going to go ahead and reflash with 2.1 global generic as you said. My Baseband version is 2.1.55 and Kernel is 2.6.29 Do these need to be flashed?
The one ftf file is all you need, 2.1.A.0.435. It will probably change your baseband to 0.54, which is the one you want for AT&T.
Really, don't over think this. This is the same firmware you would have gotten from SE if you bought your X10 from a non-AT&T store. Generic in Android terms is a good thing. It means no restrictions or extra bloatware from AT&T. No need to pay for navigation and stuff like that.
Let me know how it goes.
Again you were right my baseband changed to 2.1.54 and everything is working perfect. the red x that was appearing in the status bar in place of the H and the signal strength bars is not happening and the message "no sim card in phone" has not shown up either. I think i'm going to attempt to root and add Xrecovery do i can then speed things up with JIT. I have been on my Sony Vaio all day.
Rollhard said:
Again you were right my baseband changed to 2.1.54 and everything is working perfect. the red x that was appearing in the status bar in place of the H and the signal strength bars is not happening and the message "no sim card in phone" has not shown up either. I think i'm going to attempt to root and add Xrecovery do i can then speed things up with JIT. I have been on my Sony Vaio all day.
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Great! To use the flash tool to root, optimise(JIT) and install xRecovery, you need to set up phone first. Hit menu button / Settings / Applications and check "unknown sources". Then hit the "development" tab below and check "usb debugging". Then just turn flash tool on, and plug your phone into usb cable while the phone is still on. Do NOT mount usb connected. Then go across the tabs on the flash tool in order from left to right, root, root permissions, optimise, xrecovery. Enjoy.
XRecovery not installed
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Great! To use the flash tool to root, optimise(JIT) and install xRecovery, you need to set up phone first. Hit menu button / Settings / Applications and check "unknown sources". Then hit the "development" tab below and check "usb debugging". Then just turn flash tool on, and plug your phone into usb cable while the phone is still on. Do NOT mount usb connected. Then go across the tabs on the flash tool in order from left to right, root, root permissions, optimise, xrecovery. Enjoy.
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JBM, I did exactly as you said going left to right on flash tool. i did root and root permissions then optimize, the phone did a automatic reboot after Optimize finished then I went on to XRecovery. Flashtool says that "Xrecovery successfully installed". Now on Superuser there is a app called "unkown" on the apps allow screen. I do not have the Xrecovery app anywhere on my X10 app list. So I don't know what isn't right on my X10 or in the flash tool program. So I tried again installing Xrecovery again but got the same massage on flash tool and unknown in superuser. I did not do the "clean" step or the APK Installer step. I don't know enough to mess with either of those. there wasn't any indication on the phone that JIT was working either. flash tool showed it as successful also. do you know what i should try. Thanks again
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JBM, I did exactly as you said going left to right on flash tool. i did root and root permissions then optimize, the phone did a automatic reboot after Optimize finished then I went on to XRecovery. Flashtool says that "Xrecovery successfully installed". Now on Superuser there is a app called "unkown" on the apps allow screen. I do not have the Xrecovery app anywhere on my X10 app list. So I don't know what isn't right on my X10 or in the flash tool program. So I tried again installing Xrecovery again but got the same massage on flash tool and unknown in superuser. I did not do the "clean" step or the APK Installer step. I don't know enough to mess with either of those. there wasn't any indication on the phone that JIT was working either. flash tool showed it as successful also. do you know what i should try. Thanks again
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Ok, xrecovery doesn't show up as an app. What you have to do to enter xRecovery is reboot your phone, and when Sony Ericsson in white letters comes up press the power button a few times or the back button a bunch of times, and the xRecovery menu will appear. It takes a bit of getting used to. If the SE circular logo appears you missed it, and you have to reboot again.
There is a new way I will help you install that allows you to enter xRecovery from the home screen using the app gscript, but you have to do it the reboot way at first.
JIT isn't something you can see either. Well scrolling the app tray should be faster and smoother than ever. Search market and install "Quadrant" and "Linpack". They will allow you to run benchmark tests. Without JIT you should get around 500 quadrant and 8 linpack. With JIT enabled you should get 800+ quadrant and 30+ linpack.
Also, to truly optimize and increase performance like you would not believe (i.e. improve your benchmark scores, battery life, available RAM, speed, responsiveness) and get rid of any lag you should uninstall any preinstalled apps you don't use. Use titanium backup from the market to uninstall system apps without needing flash tool. However, system apps cannot be restored like user apps. You have to reinstall them. Actually, check your private messages in a few minutes. I will send you the pro version of Titanium Backup. With the pro version you can "freeze" system apps, so you don't have to uninstall them if you would rather not. Also, if you freeze an app and your phone works fine you know that it is safe to uninstall.
There are some that you shouldn't remove, but here's a list of safe ones off the top of my head. Of course, if you use them keep them. There are also a few threads about this.
Timescape(all) and Face Recognition (highly recommend uninstalling these two. You won't believe the difference)
SE Backup and Restore (use Titanium Backup I am sending you)
Chinese and Korean keyboard
PC Companion
SE Sync
Play Now
Pilot
JBM I was able to enter Xrecovery with the back button. my wifi was dropping every few minutes so I cleared my Dalvik cache and that seems to have fixed it. everything is running perfect. I uninstalled acouple apps & the 2 keyboards and now my best Quadrant score is 819 up from 741 and Linpack is 34.556. I can tell now that it is running faster and more responsive.
Cool. I am incorporating a lot of what I am helping you with into an AT&T specific guide for everything you've already done, and a whole bunch more if you are up for it. I am doing it anyway, but I figure I will see how my guides work for you as I add them to the thread. There is some stuff on there already that I haven't shared with you yet, like Voice Search. Anyway, check it out, and your pm. I just sent you a couple links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012380
Next thing to do is upgrade xRecovery to FreeXperiaRecovery, so you don't have to reboot to get into xrecovery. You can enter from home screen. Keep an eye out for it...
First of all I would like to apologize for not so perfect English
I have U8650 and i would like to make this topic general topic for it. I know there are few topics but there is no much info in them.
I have made same topic on croatian forum for phones so i think it will be better if its on xda because there are much more people that are good in cooking cracking etc.
So lets begin
Detailed specifications can be seen on the LINK, however, the battery is 1400mAh[/ B] and not 1250 (i have sent email to gsmarena to change it but nothing hapend...)
ROOT and the original ROM
After playing with the phone I wanted too root it, after a good deal of trouble, and around 40 readed topics (without overdoing it) I came up with some knowledge, of course the problem is that the phone is currently on only few markets. (spain, croatia, turkey, australia and china i think)
To root U8650 you should flash it with original Rom, Spanish devices dont need original rom to root dont know why it is but it is
ROM
It is necessary to download an official ROM
LINK
After you download it unrar it and dload folder copy to memory card
Path should look like \ dload \ update
to flash device you need to
turn it off
remove the battery for 5 seconds
put the battery back in
press the buttons "VOL +" + "VOL-" + "ON" (all three keys at once)
and will start automatic firmware upgrade
for 3-4 minutes cell is debranded
If you get error not found firmware that means that you did not put the firmware on the SD card like you should (I got it a few times) just off the device and repeat the procedure.
root
After flashing unbranded firmware we can throw at root
software needed for the root LINK
This is similar to debranding.
download root file
Put it on SD card
turn off the phone
remove the battery for 3 seconds
Press "VOL +" + "ON" (without the vol-)
When you open the "bios like" menu use the volume keys up/down to select the update from memory card called root
after this procedure just reboot the phone and you have rooted phone
UNLOCK
My wife is on vip network so I had need to unlock cell
Recommendation for Tibor Szabo's
[email protected] [/ email]
contact the man, he tells you to pay € 13 at [email] [email protected] [/ email]
Send him mail with the payment for approximately 12 hours with you (he said 2-3 days al always come to 24h)[/SIZE]
if this is forbiden on xda i will remove it
If you have any questions please ask, this all is wrote on xda and some other forums i just put all together
[B]Do not think i am responsible if anything goes wrong I have done in exactly those steps and everything works normally. Everything you do yo do at your own risk.[/B]
So: D after a slightly longer introduction with u8650 came the day to put Custom rom.
Of course, for custom rom you will need root thus described above tutorial.
After puting custom rom phone is like 20% faster
few main features
Integrated flash (load all ads from the flash) loads test flash from Adobe i didnt test it much more because yesterday i put custom firmware
new driver for the camera from turkcell that means 5MP camera resolution
Better battery life
overclock processors at 780MHz (you can set it manualy)
Here is the complete list of modifications that is taken with [URL="http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=262489"]LINK[/URL]
In principle, this entire tutorial is taken from [B]Zadkyn[/B] and translated becuse he is hard spanish guy nothing is on english he is not very good at answering questions but thanks to him we have custom roms and all the improvements.
list of improvements (in English)
[QUOTE]Overall performance improved a lot (it is also the little battery somprendente Spends now even with the 3G)
-Changed icons graphically and manufactures factory setting, added percentage battery icon factory
-Added adobe flash compatible and running (with the strip overlock well)
-Lower spending on drums (set the minimum cpu for this)
-Restored and changed some other applications (all zipiling passed by lower consumption of RAM)
-GPU rendering enabled
Battery-drain slower, less consumption.
Grate black-on camera to make photo with overlock fixed
Overlock-stable up to 780 (no more restarts) to give to more than 722 problems.
-Added and removed other applications
Overlock-Kernel to 844
Unlocked-Kernel
-Operates any headphones
New menu-configuration, more optimized and icons removed rom China.
Bootanimation custom-added, now you can put your wish bootanimation
-Added run-part BusyBox
-Added Apps2SD
Added bash-shell
Zipalign all-in app
New-look graphic
Huawei-optimized new launcher (and consumed as Zeami or less)
-Fix bootanimation
Init.d-scripts folder added
Scrip-added ramscrip
-Applications optimized to consume less RAM
Boot-unlocked
-Data Applications (to uninstall and market updates)
Root-shell
-Added new root
Application-Acrchivos disassembler (ODEX files only is crap and problems)
Removed sea processes on startup
-Original Sources
-Some of deleted applications including Telstra
-Optimize graphics
New Market-added
New menu-bright
-Back to the white menu
-Implement improvements in order to run 3D accelerated 3D notification bar
Added applications-highly recommended.
-More RAM optimized for removing (less processes on startup)
Optimized sub-mic, and works well, you can check any call recording.
Completely changed-Topic icons like systems.
-Removed garbage Telstra [/ color]
, As implemented VoIP, voice dial ip menu to call.
Configuraccion-optimized menu and changed the color to black.
To-quality photos and video recording improved.
Jpg Image-Viewer improved.
-Pixel camera increased significantly (software, which the Turks have for any)
Best answer-ram and optimization (42m).
-Red 2 g 3g and improved (more coverage)
Energia-saving implemented.
Netfilter-range increased.
Less force-closure errors in some applications as well as more support.
-Some more things.[/QUOTE]
I put 1.5 version because it has corrected a couple of bugs.
Biggest object is that he removed default camera app imho it's not a problem because you can instal lg camera.
So here is tutorial
What you will not learn from linked topic (and I found out by sheer luck) is that you need to install drivers and custom "bios" to be able to put custom rom
So first things first
You will need to do procedure in this topic [URL="http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=256095"]LINK[/URL]
First download the driver for Windows 7 [URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?3bvp3p42t4iqwt2"]LINK[/URL]
So these are the drivers that you install and run you will have a screen with two options press instal drivers
If you have XP and these drivers dont work download this [URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?20qkr711ceuna0n"]LINK[/URL]
I have W7 so I leave to you if this is working for xp (it should work because no one has yet complained )
The second step is to download this file [URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?k421vgl3xy1fgpa"]LINK[/URL] unzip it and run Instalador.bat
You have fine hacker green screen and bunch of Spanish. luckily it doesn't interest us. Go to the next step and that is putting the phone in Fastboot mode.
The third step unplug the battery cell out/in pressing VOLUME - (or the volume down) and the power button and hold for 10 seconds.
it will show you only the Huawei logo and it should only show you that.
Step Four Connect the mobile phone with the USB cable, wait until computer detects it and after a few seconds go ti fine spanish green screen and press any key
It will flash "bios" of the phone it should be ready in a minute or two there is no hurry.
then reset the cell and you should have a fine new "bios".
Check this by turning off cell battery out / in and press the Volume + (volume up) and the power button for 10 seconds.
It should appear with orange letters like from the picture
[IMG]http://postimage.org/image/2d31ltan8/[/IMG]
After you have fine new "bios" you want to put fine new rom
The first step with this rom download [URL="http://www.mediafire.com/?8qd05qhv5flhips"]LINK[/URL]
The second step is to put the zip in the root of your memory card.
The third step going into the BIOS mod So turn off the cell battery out / in the volume + power button for 10 seconds.
You get orange letter menu now navigate with the volume + and - and with the power Buton you confirm it.
The fourth step choose the factory data wipe, then wipe the cache and then advanced wipe devil cache (not the exact name but you will seen it)
Each time when you choose wipe you need to confirm it, always navigate to yes i want to wipe.
Fifth step Return to start of the BIOS and select the custom recovery and navigate to the zip file called zadkin and select it.
When you choose it will start to flash for me lasted about 4minute when it's finished, reboot the system and if everything went well (and there is no reason why not) you will get the boot menu with zad logo.
For first time cell loaded few minutes so patience.
After that you have a nice Costum rom that is faster and more economical with better battery life stronger processor and better camera
If you have questions feel free to shoot.
The same as in the first part of post you do all on yours risk and I am not responsible for any problems and errors. I did everything according to these instructions and I got what i wanted.
[B]CODES[/B]
codes for the service menu
[B]*#*# 2846579 #*#*[/B]
code for the info on your phone
[B]*#*# 4636 #*#*[/B]
All of this is wroted on few forums and i just wanted to put all in one place on the most visited forum for android (xda)
Also i would very like if someone with more expirience can read this tutorial and suggest something.
one more thing that i left out is RAM limitation and i hope to get some answers about that.
also if this helps someone feel free to thank me
Best regards
just flashed your custom rom without problems. its amazing what people can do..!! it seems based on the yoigo firmware and you have english and spanish as languages. everything you need is included filemanager app2sd etc. i like it very much.. thanks.
edit: could you kindly tell what the flashing of the bios (with pc) exactly is for?! thanks
If you dont flash that bios you cant wiPe devilk cache and you cant instal modified rom so basicly puting new bio is must for moded roms
It will be great if someone else can try this
As for wiping the data, there was only one thing possible to wipe. everything else was just a line of "NO" without option to change it.
I now have like 3 programs running in background thats cool... and of course its cool that many programs are removed that cant be removed otherwise (like documents2go trial)
But thE stock yoigo firmware is good too... It already comes with the possibility to install apps to SD u dont need extra program for that
EDIT :and i just come back to phone.. i left it on charger over night.. and its in the orange BIOS MODE !!!! so it crashed i guess ??? bad
EDIT2: Couldnt access 3g internet even tho i had the right profile .... will test some more
Unofrtunately the custom ROM has still a lot of bugs, be careful :-(
yeah its BS... i am going back to original yoigo at least there i can make it install all aps to SD automatically .... this hacked firmware cant even transfer most new aps to SD..
i hope i will have no problems cos of flashed bios...
thanks anyways both of you
edit: 2 more bugs.. adblock dont work (some java error crash) and the 11mb adobe flash cant be copied to sd or removed at all
out of 27 apps (a few downloaded by me) 7 can be copied to SD and 20 cant
is there anyone who tested cyan mode for this phone ?
this guy
http://translate.google.de/translat...ania.com/showthread.php?p=2880783#post2880783
check that forum out they also have Cyanogen7.2-benru89 [Android 2.3.7] [LEDs] !!
do anybody knows how to make back key to just leave app and not go to home screen
i have instaled cyan 7.2 spartan 1.2 ver and when i enter app drawer and start app lasts say camera i push back key and it lands me in home screen and not in appdrawer.
hope you understand what i am saying
problem
I had a problem when i tried to root my phone. I copyed the zip file into my sdcard but it could find the file.
I got other things in my sd if it matters idont know.
I would be very thankfull if someone could help me!
huawei u 8650 phone is dead
hi ,after installing official firmware ,my phone got brick.i also made backup with cwm recovery,but now my phone only show black screen only alittle blink of light when i push power bottom,how can i solve this problem
I don't understand, if you root your phone yo unlock it from its carrier? I mean, free to use with whatever sim card from any mobile company?
Didnot work on U8652
12/14/11: I tried the rom upgrade on U8652 ATT fusion and received "install error' after unpacking.
Any suggestions?
12/15/11: I successfully installed the 'recoveryclockmod' after finding the proper android usb driver for winXp - 'pulse drivers'
then installed the custom rom. But the phone details on the installed custom rom says its a U8650 model not U8652.
Thanks OP
Thanks OP
I followed your instructions and installed recoveryclockmod and cyanogen_u8650-benru on my U8652. Now I finally have root and a nice ROM to play around with. Thanks OP
Does the root part work on a Huawei U8650 Sonic that came with android 2.3.5 and newer ROM ( U8650V100R001C343B851 ) ?
I need to root it to be able to use reverse USB tethering
dark0153 said:
Does the root part work on a Huawei U8650 Sonic that came with android 2.3.5 and newer ROM ( U8650V100R001C343B851 ) ?
I need to root it to be able to use reverse USB tethering
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Try with
http://unlockroot.com/
From lastest version they support huawei U8650. You can always put recovery and custom rom (google htcmania or read first post)
sipe1 said:
Try with
unlockroot.com
From lastest version they support huawei U8650. You can always put recovery and custom rom (google htcmania or read first post)
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unlockroot doesn't work, i tried the latest version (2.2) and i get the same error "Failed to get shell root !"
I have fried my U8650
I attempted a firmware update (official)... stage one completed... phone restarted and got stuck with a grey screen (no logo nothing just blank grey screen) all the soft buttons are turned on. constantly.
It wont go in to recovery, a simple touch to the power button turns it on and then it wont turn off unless I take the battery out.
I tried flashing with DC unlocker but my system wont detect it, I have installed the drivers provided at huawei site.
the phone was just a week old and am real pissed.
worst part, i did all that after reading this post
Anyone has any idea, how i can get it to work once again.
friedroid said:
I attempted a firmware update (official)... stage one completed... phone restarted and got stuck with a grey screen (no logo nothing just blank grey screen) all the soft buttons are turned on. constantly.
It wont go in to recovery, a simple touch to the power button turns it on and then it wont turn off unless I take the battery out.
I tried flashing with DC unlocker but my system wont detect it, I have installed the drivers provided at huawei site.
the phone was just a week old and am real pissed.
worst part, i did all that after reading this post
Anyone has any idea, how i can get it to work once again.
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I didn't try this method and I'm only suggesting it because it sound like you almost bricked your phone.
You could try installing ClockworkMod recovery using fastboot (here is a guide for that androidforums.com/sonic-all-things-root/476263-root-guide.html just follow 1-9 ) and then flash the original rom for your phone (I found a list of stock roms here android.modaco.com/topic/350367-huawei-u8650 )
Dont forget to wipe data/cache before flashing the new rom ( this might be the cause for the state your phone is in now )
Update:
Got the drivers by installing hi space and letting it search for appropriate drivers. Worked real smooth.
Now Computer detects phone. But the instalador.bat keeps on searching for device :S
Stuck and stumped once again.
I want to believe but all I see is darkness... or a mildly lit lcd with greyness to be precise. thoughts, ideas anyone.
Thanks man. A ray of hope finally.
Only one problem.
My system won't detect the phone. When i plug it in via usb, it turns on. I mean all the buttons turn on, screen turns dark grey from dead black. But that is it. Computer wont detect it. I am running on windows 7.
Another system detected it which was running on XP but it wouldn't accept the drivers.
Here is an attempt to provide a definitive answer to what to do if your phone has the Bluetooth/Wifi hardware failure.
Note that some of the links don't seem to work with the xda-developer app or the Atrix built in browser. Please blame motorola, not me
Symptoms:
1) If your phone was set to try to use Wifi by default on boot:
Your phone boots into the OS but shortly afterwards freezes and reboots - and again and again.
2) If your phone boots with Wifi turned off:
Your phone boots into the OS and a few seconds after you enable the Wifi in settings or via a widget it shows "Error" and sometimes the phone reboots shortly afterwards. Bluetooth simply fails to work.
If you have warranty return it for a repair. If not the best you can get is to disable the Wifi and Bluetooth so the phone doesn't reboot and can be used with mobile data. Instructions for both are below:
Be sure it is the Bluetooth / Wifi hardware failure:
1) Are you running a custom ROM? - if yes go to 1.1, if no goto 2.
1.1) Reboot into recovery and make a backup.
1.2) Remove your SD card.
1.3) Reflash using RSD to stock - remember to get the right one for the right country!
Get RSD and drivers here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
Search for your stock firmware using google
Use RSD to install the stock firmware file which will replace the bootloader, recovery and radio - takes about 20 minutes.
Goto 2.
2) Reboot into Stock Android Recovery and reset to factory defaults
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/60620
2.1) Reboot to Android and try enabling wifi from settings - if it reports "Error" after a few seconds and your phone may reboot shortly afterwards it is the hardware fault. Proceed to 3.
3) Check your remaining warranty here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/82507/p/30,6720,7898
Bottom left - enter your IMEI.
Warranty left goto 3.1 else goto 4.
3.1) Return to Motorola for repair - be sure you flashed back to stock first using instructions in 1.3
4) Unpalatable options are all that is left. Either pay or do without Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Have money and the desire to fix your Atrix ($110 in the USA)? Goto 4.1 else 5
4.1) Consider paying Motorola to repair the phone anyway. Schedule a repair here https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/82507/p/30,6720,7898
5) This is a complex process. Google is your friend. Unlock your phone using the instructions below. Note you have no warranty to lose (see 3)!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
5.1) Install romracers CWM custom recovery using moto-fastboot (or Android fastboot):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
5.2) Did you take a backup earlier? If yes go to 5.3. If no goto 6.
5.3) Reboot into CWM recovery and restore your backup. Note if you are stuck in a bootloop this will be ok in a bit. Goto 7.
6) Install your favourite ROM using CWM recovery from a SDCARD or by moto-fastboot. Goto 7.
7) Reboot into CWM recovery
7.1) Plug your phone into your PC (you might have to wait for the driver to enumerate the phone first)
7.2) Find or install adb on your computer (hint - it comes with the Android SDK and platform tools from earlier):
adb shell
mount /system
cd /system/lib/modules
mv dhd.ko dhd.ko2
reboot
8) When you install a new ROM or kernel goto 7. Every time.
This little setup moves the driver linux needs to try to talk to the wifi/bluetooth chip which has failed so it can't find it. If it can't find it then it doesn't try to talk to the dead Broadcom Bluetooth Wifi chip that prevents the reboot cycle happening.
The fix was pioneered by:
mvniekerk
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2353874
So go thank him!
In the hopes this helps,
Matthew
Good job. Well said.
Considering how many posts I have seen after posting this solution perhaps it could be sticky?
I promise to maintain it.
Matthew
Sent from my MB860 using xda app-developers app
Hmmm
I think I have done that correctly and flashed the 2.8 Neutrino GT. There was no reboot up to now. But I want to ask if there is a fix for WIFI 'ERROR' and BLUETOOTH error without 'ERROR' message?
Guys please. I can try anything I don't want to lose my phone Warranty is over. How can I find the Broadcom BCM4329 wireless and bluetooth chipset for atrix? So I can find a technician to change it with mine.
If you have the failure there isn't much to be done.
Ifixit has a teardown but the chip is a very small ball grid type thing which will be very hard to fix.
What are your symptoms precisely?
Sent from my MB860 using xda app-developers app
mattaw2001 said:
If you have the failure there isn't much to be done.
Ifixit has a teardown but the chip is a very small ball grid type thing which will be very hard to fix.
What are your symptoms precisely?
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When I click on 'Turn on Wifi' button, It says 'Turning on Wifi' for 10 seconds and then 'Error' message comes up under the Wifi button and when I click on 'turn on bluetooth' it says 'turning on' but does not turn on. Same as wifi but without the 'error' message.
How can I fix this? I can't use wifi and bluetooth!
Nothing to be done. There is some discussion as to why but a chip in your phone made by broadcom which handles both wifi and Bluetooth has failed.
Short of replacing it requiring sophisticated soldering tools you are stuck. See the $110 Motorola warranty repair.
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Im stuck.
I have applied the fix to NottachTrix4G rom. I still have the random reboots. I really need help.
Do you get the wifi error message or not?
Secondly does this happen with the normal, stock Motorola rom?
Matthew
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When i check wifi does show error. I have not tried the stock moto rom yet.
The best thing to do is return to stock and do a factory reset
Carry out a full backup first (nandroid or using CWM recovery).
The best thing to do is return the atrix to stock and then do a factory rest.
If the problem persists then it is a hardware problem and you can now return it under warranty without them knowing (see the thread for instructions).
Otherwise you seem rather stuck. Perhaps buy an atrix with a smashed screen and transfer the motherboard?
Matthew
Noattachtrix rom was good, but not good enough.
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I have applied the fix to NottachTrix4G rom. I still have the random reboots. I really need help.
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I ended up using RomGb instead and that fix the bootloop after using NottachTrix4G Rom.
This happened to me Saturday November 17, 2012. Rebooting did not help. Did my searches and found this thread - and was bummed to read that it is due to a hardware issue. Fortunately, I persisted. With the WiFi widget endlessly spinning, I tried the Bluetooth, which would just fail and go to an off state. I elected to do a force close on any running applications one by one, testing Bluetooth after each. I found that BlueTooth and WiFi functionality would come back after force closing some apps. I stupidly left WiFi on and rebooted the phone - this put me in an endless reboot cycle. In the midst of one I managed to enable car dock mode which I have configured to disable WiFi and this got me out of the loop. I found my issue, which has the same symptoms as the above, was caused by a recent update to WeatherBug Elite. I uninstalled the program, and am back to normal operation. Hope this helps others.
Update - it appears my problems continue. Although I can now access BT & WiFi, the problem will re-occur. Force closing Weather version 2.2.2 usually will clear the issue, but I have had a good working WiFi sessions halt to Error. Still gotta think it's software rather than hardware.
Thanks I thought it was the ROM until I found this thread
Well, I was wrong. The issue is hardware not software. In my case pressing the volume down button would change the behavior sometimes, like get bluetooth to work, press volume down it stops or vice versa. Time for a replacement.
I mount the system successfully but when I type cd /system/lib/modules I get it cant find the directory, Please help. I need to do this to stop reboot!!
Definitely Software
I have atrix 4g. Running MROM 2013 2 13. I have the error on WIFI and NO Bluetooth. No reboot, but I rarely use the wifi enough to leave it on(conserve the batt). This is a software issue as far as I can tell as well.. I can fix it by killing the mrom service in "manage applications". If I get a chance I will look further but this seems like enough of a fix to not care.. MROM is pretty great besides this issue.(which appears to happen on multiple roms. My guess would be that it started with CM, but only because that is what the roms are based off of that get the problem.
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I mount the system successfully but when I type cd /system/lib/modules I get it cant find the directory, Please help. I need to do this to stop reboot!!
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Having the same issue. Wifi died after the phone fell off my hands. I had the CM10 ROM by ephinter and everything worked great except the wifi (no reboots). Then I had the AMAZING idea of installing a new ROM and the reboot loop started. EIther with any stock or custom ROM it continues to happen. Tried everything without success.
Have anyone tried disabling wifi in the settings.sqlite and see what happens?
jaunis I found out why mine was doing the boot loop and it is funny but very weird. I wiped the phone and put my cm7 back on there and forgot to activate my gmail account or any account for that case. Now I have been running it with no problems for 40 hours. But of course still no wifi. I am fine with that. but at least I am not dealing with the reboots.
I have an unlocked AT&T Atrix 4G with a custom ROM (Cyan 9.x & ICS 4.x). I started having WiFi issues where the device would reboot anytime I tried to enable the WiFi. This all started at least 6mo after installing the custom rom so I dont think its software related. To try and fix the issue I tried doing a data wipe factory reset, at this point I couldn't get past the welcome screen because WiFi didn't work and I dont have a SIM in the phone (my kid has been using it for games). So from here I decided to try and flash the phone back to stock using RSD Lite;
Be sure it is the Bluetooth / Wifi hardware failure:
1) Are you running a custom ROM? - if yes go to 1.1, if no goto 2.
1.1) Reboot into recovery and make a backup.
1.2) Remove your SD card.
1.3) Reflash using RSD to stock - remember to get the right one for the right country!
Get RSD and drivers here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
Search for your stock firmware using google
Use RSD to install the stock firmware file which will replace the bootloader, recovery and radio - takes about 20 minutes.
Goto 2.
2) Reboot into Stock Android Recovery and reset to factory defaults
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/60620
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I downloaded the AT&T 2.3.4 / 4.5.91 Service SBF which looks like this in RSDLite: 1ff-olympus-user-2.3.4-4.5.91-110625-release-keys-signed-att-us-gas_na_olpsgbattspe_p011.sbf
I started the flash and left my phone for 15m or so to do its thing. When I came back my phone was boot looping (shown in a video here: http://youtu.be/V9wtBNEWRPQ ).
I can't do a factory reset from Stock Android Recovery (step 2 above), I can't get the menu for it. Now what do I do? Did I grab the wrong SBF file? Currently the only place I can grab SBF files at is here: http://www.das8nt.com/sbffiles.html
So here they are -
1. First, Is there a way to create a fastboot rom by extracting files from the device? Or you just have to download it?
The reason - As I've always found that stock roms in any phone are the most stable, and it'd be nice if we could create a fastboot rom out of it. Not to forget that we can also save a lot of bandwidth.
2. I recently tried to unlock my device and I was met with an error "wait 72 hours, use your device actively". So what rules I have to follow?
Moreover whenever I try to close my mobile connection whether through notification tab or inside settings, my device restarts.
Are these related? Though if I'm quick enough that I close internet before sim could load and show the H/LTE sign, then it doesn't restarts. But if I turn it later on and decide to shut it off, then it's bound to restart.
Was just tapping on usb tethering and it restarted, don't know if my connection went off as it rebooted very quickly, but it restarted again.
Update : Tried to switch from mobile data to wifi, still restarted. Sometimes if the sim is a little slow to connect to internet and I turn it off, then it doesn't restart either. The data got turned on later and got shut off automatically as in actuality it was off, but the phone didn't restarted then.
3. I'm having some problems with face recognition. First I registered in a dark environment, unlocked it 2/3 times right away. But when I tried later, it didn't worked several times either in dark or well lit environment. Then I installed it in a well lit environment, same thing worked 2/3 times right away, but as soon as I changed the location to dark or back to well lit, it didn't worked again. Just tried it RN, it worked several times except a few times, so what 's going on here? I'm confused.
Update : I think it's a distance issue.
4. This is a general question regarding miui. Where is the data saver (restrict background data) feature in miui? I've tried several times to find it in different mi phones. But was never able to find it. It's been here from kitkat or maybe even older, correct me if I'm wrong. So why not provide it in miui, such a feature rich rom? Is it hidden somewhere?
5. The stock rom my phone has is based on Android 8.1 (8.1.0 OPM1.171019.011) to be exact, for rom version refer to reply. I've tried different versions of gcam, but none of 'em has worked for me. Normal camera app works fine, nothing I've encountered yet.
These are the versions I've tried -
* F1v9.5_6.2.030.apk (Couldn't install as 6.2 is only supported by android pie)
* MGC_6.1.021_XCAMBase_F1_v5a.apk (Installed and worked, details below)
* MGC_6.1.021_Potter_v7.1_san1ty.apk (Installed, didn't open)
* MGC_6.1.021_Potter_v7_san1ty.apk (Installed, didn't open)
On photo, the camera lags like I'm playing a game at 2-3 fps, same for other photo related options. Except for panaroma, photo sphere, lens blur, these I didin't had problem with. Except panaroma pic never showed up in camera app or gallery. In video it doesn't lag, so recording normal video was fine. But when I recorded a slo mo video, it lagged after the recording, inside & out the camera app. Inside gcam the audio was fine but outside it was muffled. By outside I mean gallery app & vlc player.
I may try other versions but each app is so big.
Gurkirat_Singh said:
So here they are -
1. First, Is there a way to create a fastboot rom by extracting files from the device? Or you just have to download it?
The reason - As I've always found that stock roms in any phone are the most stable, and it'd be nice if we could create a fastboot rom out of it. Not to forget that we can also save a lot of bandwidth.
2. I recently tried to unlock my device and I was met with an error "wait 72 hours, use your device actively". So what rules I have to follow?
Moreover whenever I try to close my mobile connection whether through notification tab or inside settings, my device restarts.
Are these related? Though if I'm quick enough that I close internet before sim could load and show the H/LTE sign, then it doesn't restarts. But if I turn it later on and decide to shut it off, then it's bound to restart.
Was just tapping on usb tethering and it restarted, don't know if my connection went off as it rebooted very quickly, but it restarted again.
Update : Tried to switch from mobile data to wifi, still restarted. Sometimes if the sim is a little slow to connect to internet and I turn it off, then it doesn't restart either. The data got turned on later and got shut off automatically as in actuality it was off, but the phone didn't restarted then.
3. I'm having some problems with face recognition. First I registered in a dark environment, unlocked it 2/3 times right away. But when I tried later, it didn't worked several times either in dark or well lit environment. Then I installed it in a well lit environment, same thing worked 2/3 times right away, but as soon as I changed the location to dark or back to well lit, it didn't worked again. Just tried it RN, it worked several times except a few times, so what 's going on here? I'm confused.
Update : I think it's a distance issue.
4. This is a general question regarding miui. Where is the data saver (restrict background data) feature in miui? I've tried several times to find it in different mi phones. But was never able to find it. It's been here from kitkat or maybe even older, correct me if I'm wrong. So why not provide it in miui, such a feature rich rom? Is it hidden somewhere?
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sir, you never mention which version you are on ? since Boot is locked so definately MIUI but which one? global/beta/Eu/ Stable/chine etc?
anways..
Answer for 1, - No you have to redownload it, the Fastboot Rom consist of few extra files like persist and recovery and if they are update you must use the latest one. however via twrp you can take system/data/ and other partitions backup if you want...
for 2. after 72hours, goto dev option and try enabling oemunlock, it will give you warning but do it, come out of dev option and go in and do it again, repeat until the UNLOCK setting stays on UNLOCK, (don't know why it is, but this is how it is,,,, ) , later verify your miui account and sim, keep signed in. download unlocker and sign- in and try unlocking the device (make sure all qualcom drivers are installed)
for 2 again, This is very strange, ONE OF ITS KIND error I AM hearing , I honestly thought this bug is ONLY custom rom related! , you see Poco f1, Beryllium uses MODIFIED VENDOR IMAGE ( can be found at) https://mirror.akhilnarang.me/MIUI/beryllium/.
now these modified vendor images by MIUI dumps logs on data/data/netstat (specially if you are USB TETHERING on 3g, ... you will start suddent System UI reboots and some com.android.xyz processes crashing errors and if you toggle Airplone mode 3g/4g or usb tethering from quick setting , device either hung or system ui restarts or device reboots.
now this error is always in all custom roms due to vendor image
solution? DELETE all files from data/data/netstat and reboot (rooted device on custom rom)
for locked device (unrooted) you may have to flash updated version of miui to fix this bug!
Once you unlock device take latest vendor image ( i am using 9.6.27.9-0 , it has better battery life) and flash custom rom...
for 2 again,,,, some users are complaing that miui10.3.6 alters fastboot commands! and twrp no longer works! , make sure you don't flash miui10.3.6,
for no3,, i don't use facial unlock feature, i will study more and will get back to u if relevent.
for 4
Open MIUI Security App.
Tap on Data Usage Tool.
Tap on Restrict Data Usage.
Now find out those data hunger apps and restrict them by tapping on the green tick.
@YasuHamed First of all big thanks for such a descriptive answer.
1. Now, I'm on stock miui rom i.e. MIUI global stable 9.6.14.0(OEJMIFD).
So If i haven't updated my rom in any way what so ever. can I create a fastboot rom out of it? If I can then also, will that fastboot rom have all the system settings I have on my phone right now? Or will they be default?
2. While not exactly as you said but something similar happened. I do remember enabling the option of oem unlock, but it was turned off. It didn't gave any warnings, so I enabled it multiple times maybe 4, then on the 4th time it showed me a warning and after that it was enabled permanently, even after several boots and reboots.
IDK which "unlock setting" do you mean, which has to say unlock? Is it something different than I mentioned here or are you talking about Mi unlock status, cause I already tapped the 'add account and device' option in it.
Yes really strange indeed. I'm just worried that my hardware isn't damaged? Cause I just got the phone 2 days ago and if it's only a software thing then it's fine. As I'm sure installing/flashing rom would fix it! But I can't RN as you know the time period. Why am I worried? I took my phone to a mobile shop to put lamination on it asap as to avoid any scratches. As you may know that they use heat gun, to do it properly around the curves, I'm just getting a little worried that it damaged my phone's hardware, please give me hope.
Some other strange things happened as well. After some reboots, when I went into file manager app, it would open showing previews etc. but as soon as I click on storage/folders, it says "disconnected" and later I get a message "couldn't add error 10000" like after 10-15 seconds, as I vaguely remember. But after some reboots it would work just fine so IDK what's going on.
3. I also think it's about the experience. More I used it, I think infrared illuminator doesn't throw rays too far, so you have to keep your face a little close.
4. Thanks I found it. But I don't think it is very effective, feature wise. And I also think it isn't working that well RN as it keeps showing the data usage as 0, maybe cause of the bugs? Also the features like restricting data etc for individual apps is good but if you have to restrict background data for each &very app, you have to do that individually. Though if i restrict data, can an app still use background data? As they are different menus. Also it doesn't show usb tethering or hotspot data or anything like that in the list.
Check my 5. question.
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@YasuHamed First of all big thanks for such a descriptive answer.
1. Now, I'm on stock miui rom i.e. MIUI global stable 9.6.14.0(OEJMIFD).
So If i haven't updated my rom in any way what so ever. can I create a fastboot rom out of it? If I can then also, will that fastboot rom have all the system settings I have on my phone right now? Or will they be default?
2. While not exactly as you said but something similar happened. I do remember enabling the option of oem unlock, but it was turned off. It didn't gave any warnings, so I enabled it multiple times maybe 4, then on the 4th time it showed me a warning and after that it was enabled permanently, even after several boots and reboots.
IDK which "unlock setting" do you mean, which has to say unlock? Is it something different than I mentioned here or are you talking about Mi unlock status, cause I already tapped the 'add account and device' option in it.
Yes really strange indeed. I'm just worried that my hardware isn't damaged? Cause I just got the phone 2 days ago and if it's only a software thing then it's fine. As I'm sure installing/flashing rom would fix it! But I can't RN as you know the time period. Why am I worried? I took my phone to a mobile shop to put lamination on it asap as to avoid any scratches. As you may know that they use heat gun, to do it properly around the curves, I'm just getting a little worried that it damaged my phone's hardware, please give me hope.
Some other strange things happened as well. After some reboots, when I went into file manager app, it would open showing previews etc. but as soon as I click on storage/folders, it says "disconnected" and later I get a message "couldn't add error 10000" like after 10-15 seconds, as I vaguely remember. But after some reboots it would work just fine so IDK what's going on.
3. I also think it's about the experience. More I used it, I think infrared illuminator doesn't throw rays too far, so you have to keep your face a little close.
4. Thanks I found it. But I don't think it is very effective, feature wise. And I also think it isn't working that well RN as it keeps showing the data usage as 0, maybe cause of the bugs? Also the features like restricting data etc for individual apps is good but if you have to restrict background data for each &very app, you have to do that individually. Though if i restrict data, can an app still use background data? As they are different menus. Also it doesn't show usb tethering or hotspot data or anything like that in the list.
Check my 5. question.
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sir Gurkirat_Singh
1. sir you are on Miui9.6 which is based on oreo.I have personally updated till 10.0.03 and have all the fastboot command working fine.
you may download miui9.6.22 (a bit updated version from what you are currently on) from
http://en.miui.com/thread-3995650-1-1.html ( both Recovery (1.6gb) & Fb rom (2.5gb) as backup.
2. under Developer options , poco f1 has this trick that OEM UNLOCK doesnt stick on UNLOCK and keeps coming to default once after you exit Developer option. on my 5th attempt it finally stick to UNLOCK and i was able to unlock the device from unlocker Tool.
3. I havent removed my poco sticker from back (yet), put 9h class, bought extra skin my self and book cover too so yes I second that. I always protect my devices like part of me , even the retired ones are sleeping in boxes with proper covers and unused accories!,
now, update your rom and try again to toggle 3g/4g usb tethering. 99% chances are its software issue! and i have faced this issue many times and its my 5th month with device so i havent noticed any hardware damage or performance / speed problems yet... so don't worry. YES few kernels affect network connectivity, however I am on Optimus Drunk kernel on Havoc 2.8 and its working like a charm!
-about file manager issue, can you try the same with FX File Explorer? and report back plz
4.if you restrict globally then miui will only allow system apps to use data in background as and when needed. MIUI won't allow facebook/whatsapp and other VOIP callers to work in the background. Once in restricted mode on miui9 on RN5pro, I used to miss call on whatsapp unless i wake the device up and notifications starts appearing that i have many whatsapp miss calls!, this feature went even worse on rn5pro when i was on dual sim, miui use to prefer carier sim over data sim always! so yes miui has strict data usage control.
5. i am unable to find 5th question plz help
few screen shots of my poco f1 on HAVOC2.8 / OD kernel build20190820 / magisk19.3 / gapps nano
@YasuHamed
1. I didn't got the answer to my question, please read my question again.
2. I'm gonna assume you mean 'oem unlock' got enabled and I'd be able to unlock after 72 hours are over.
2. a. I hope so as well, thanks again.
Although sometimes it would run fine and even after turning off mobile data, wifi, usb tethering etc. it won't restart. I thought the oem unlock setting helped but when I tried not an hour ago, it restarted. Same thing with file manager, it's working fine now, I'm sure 3rd party file managers would work fine as well. Only a few times, it showed that 'disconnected' error.
4. I guess I'd just have to hit and trial myself.
5. Check my OP (original post).
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@YasuHamed
1. I didn't got the answer to my question, please read my question again.
2. I'm gonna assume you mean 'oem unlock' got enabled and I'd be able to unlock after 72 hours are over.
2. a. I hope so as well, thanks again.
Although sometimes it would run fine and even after turning off mobile data, wifi, usb tethering etc. it won't restart. I thought the oem unlock setting helped but when I tried not an hour ago, it restarted. Same thing with file manager, it's working fine now, I'm sure 3rd party file managers would work fine as well. Only a few times, it showed that 'disconnected' error.
4. I guess I'd just have to hit and trial myself.
5. Check my OP (original post).
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1. I never read any such method so far where you can reverse engineer the extracted files in partitions and pack them back as fastboot rom. and to think of it thats almost impossible because stockroms usually comes with digitally signed by vendors ensuring no foul play.
2. once your 72hrs over, just unlock the oem unlock switch from Dev option, verify sim of on your mi account, download the unlock tool, login using same mi account, hit unlock, after success, the device will BOOT on POCO logo and "UNLOCKED" will start appearing (always) and all data partition, internal storage will be wiped! so make sure you take backup!
2a. with me on custom rom it wasn't a sure thing but it used to happend randomly when least expected.
5. on oreo , GCAM version came in sep2016 worked for me and later ones are for pie and kept crashing (please check old version on apkmirror)
@YasuHamed Thanks for all the help.
5. I did found a version that is working fine for now. But the features I was interested in was super res zoom, night mode, slo mo etc. Super rez wasn't that impressive(seemed similar to stock zoom), night mode either, slo mo still doesn't work properly and phone heats up, even when I'm not using too old of a version of gcam. Even the stock cam app took some good shots with zooming.
And if those features will work better with pie version then IDK what to say cause that new version would come with better stock cam having slo mo, night mode and all that shiz if not everything. So I'm kinda thinking is this gcam port really relevant? It drastically changed image quality with my RN3 but I don't see that now.
Edit: Also I wanted to say that my phone was working fine now i.e. no reboots after closing mobile data or wifi or switching. But you know what they say don't celebrate too soon. As soon as I used usb tethering the problem arised again, I wasn't able to it for 2 days as my PC wasn't booting. Same reason why I wasn't able to reply to you earlier.
Not only this, this whole bugged situation has started to irritate me a lot. Just today I was trying to run flash on my android. And even on the supported browser, it just wouldn't show up. I really hope after I unlock this device, all of these bugs would go away after the data gets deleted, or I'm gonna be more disappointed.
@YasuHamed This has really started to piss me off now. It has started again.
While IDK if the camera or flash not working properly are related to this whole bugged system or not. But I guess usb tethering is the trigger to this whole thing. Everything was working fine, it started to record the mobile data usage, didn't turned off when turned off the mobile data and even worked when I used usb tethering, but suddenly it reboots and the whole **** show all over again. I'm really pissed now. Oh btw it started showing 0 data used AGAIN.
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@YasuHamed This has really started to piss me off now. It has started again.
While IDK if the camera or flash not working properly are related to this whole bugged system or not. But I guess usb tethering is the trigger to this whole thing. Everything was working fine, it started to record the mobile data usage, didn't turned off when turned off the mobile data and even worked when I used usb tethering, but suddenly it reboots and the whole **** show all over again. I'm really pissed now. Oh btw it started showing 0 data used AGAIN.
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please consider upgrading to MIUI10.3.x , download the complete recovery rom and name it as update.zip and put it in download folder and open updater and call the rom from there , and flash it, I suggest CLEAN FLASHING so all the data will be deleted!
plz take backup!
@YasuHamed can you please find me fastboot rom for miui 9.6.14(OEJMIFD), I tried but I couldn't find it. I'd do the full clean flash through edl mode. That would resolve any bugs related software, right?
Come to think of it, why did this all started happening at the first place? As I remember, it all started after a failed attempt to unlock, I mean not fail fail, I just had to wait before I could do so. Do you see any patterns?
Also if you know anything in this regard, did the stock rom (9.6.14) had such problems back in the day?
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@YasuHamed can you please find me fastboot rom for miui 9.6.14(OEJMIFD), I tried but I couldn't find it. I'd do the full clean flash through edl mode. That would resolve any bugs related software, right?
Come to think of it, why did this all started happening at the first place? As I remember, it all started after a failed attempt to unlock, I mean not fail fail, I just had to wait before I could do so. Do you see any patterns?
Also if you know anything in this regard, did the stock rom (9.6.14) had such problems back in the day?
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frankly i never used my poco on miui either on 9 nor on 10 ,
the day I got, I placed unlock request and after 3-4 days, I unlocked my device and put it on HAVOC and since then my experience is based on custom roms but i did flash miui 10 in between just to have a taste of it! and came back to havoc in a day or two, hence i never deeply tested these feature.
however I do know that modified vendore have created usb tethering problems throughout devices
https://mirom.ezbox.idv.tw/en/phone/beryllium/roms-global-stable/
@YasuHamed I don't think mine contains modified rom. As I went ahead and checked all the possibilities like using cn as in china in the codename of a global rom, updates are also working. I even went ahead to check the authenticity of my device. It checks out with some other things on the box as well. So I'm 100% sure, that this has got nothing related to that.
Some other things which I tried in the meantime. I wanted to test if I can run tegra games on this device. So I installed gltools and build prop. Gltools to make the app believe that my device has the gpu it's looking for. Build prop to make app believe I have the device on which this is supposed to run. But I ended up with the same results. So IDK what I did wrong there? In this regard I wanna ask that, is it possible for root checker to show your device is rooted when in fact its not properly rooted.
Why am I asking this? Cause while going through rooting procedure I skipped a few steps like not flashing 'disable force encryption treble' which I did notice after unlocking, during first boot, the device did do some encryption. I skipped that step cause of something mentioned on this link https://twrp.me/xiaomi/xiaomipocophonef1.html regarding dm verity, but as I just checked the same is mentioned regarding rn3 so IDK what to make of this now, but what I did is not 'swipe to allow modifications' and click on 'read only' in twrp recovery and it did rebooted to recovery properly. As mentioned in the link that some system could force to flash stock recovery. Other than that, not factory resetting, data wiping after root, but does it really matter that much?
I can hear you say that dude you're playing with your device too much, of course it's gonna have these problems. To that, I say I didn't do anything like this, prior to unlocking but the problems were still there if not all of them. So what is the root cause of this then? Do I really need to take it service centre to get it checked out or just flashing the rom through edl mode would fix this?
Not just that after I made those changes in build prop(not including gltools) something very weird/interesting happened. If I would restart my device the boot logo shown is poco but the boot splash is mi logo. And when it rebooted after closing the internet, it would only show the mi logo but then I remember that it must've been soft(hot) reboot as it only shows boot splash.
Not only this, after rebooting the style of the rom changed as well. The icon on the home rearranged themselves a bit. So instead of seeing 5 icons in a row, it was all 4 icons on home as well as on app drawer. As you may know Kika keyboard is defaulty present in this rom but after the build prop modifications, whenever I lock my device and wake it up it started showing ads sometimes, maybe the same ad everytime IDK.
Another thing as you know there is an option of reboot to recovery under about phone updates. When I did that that it showed the 'android' logo. I tried it again but it kept showing the loading sign only.
Also how did you find these files? Thanks again m8. You know just for reference if I'd have to find them myself. Also what are those that say (rolled back).
Gurkirat_Singh said:
@YasuHamed I don't think mine contains modified rom. As I went ahead and checked all the possibilities like using cn as in china in the codename of a global rom, updates are also working. I even went ahead to check the authenticity of my device. It checks out with some other things on the box as well. So I'm 100% sure, that this has got nothing related to that.
Some other things which I tried in the meantime. I wanted to test if I can run tegra games on this device. So I installed gltools and build prop. Gltools to make the app believe that my device has the gpu it's looking for. Build prop to make app believe I have the device on which this is supposed to run. But I ended up with the same results. So IDK what I did wrong there? In this regard I wanna ask that, is it possible for root checker to show your device is rooted when in fact its not properly rooted.
Why am I asking this? Cause while going through rooting procedure I skipped a few steps like not flashing 'disable force encryption treble' which I did notice after unlocking, during first boot, the device did do some encryption. I skipped that step cause of something mentioned on this link https://twrp.me/xiaomi/xiaomipocophonef1.html regarding dm verity, but as I just checked the same is mentioned regarding rn3 so IDK what to make of this now, but what I did is not 'swipe to allow modifications' and click on 'read only' in twrp recovery and it did rebooted to recovery properly. As mentioned in the link that some system could force to flash stock recovery. Other than that, not factory resetting, data wiping after root, but does it really matter that much?
I can hear you say that dude you're playing with your device too much, of course it's gonna have these problems. To that, I say I didn't do anything like this, prior to unlocking but the problems were still there if not all of them. So what is the root cause of this then? Do I really need to take it service centre to get it checked out or just flashing the rom through edl mode would fix this?
Not just that after I made those changes in build prop(not including gltools) something very weird/interesting happened. If I would restart my device the boot logo shown is poco but the boot splash is mi logo. And when it rebooted after closing the internet, it would only show the mi logo but then I remember that it must've been soft(hot) reboot as it only shows boot splash.
Not only this, after rebooting the style of the rom changed as well. The icon on the home rearranged themselves a bit. So instead of seeing 5 icons in a row, it was all 4 icons on home as well as on app drawer. As you may know Kika keyboard is defaulty present in this rom but after the build prop modifications, whenever I lock my device and wake it up it started showing ads sometimes, maybe the same ad everytime IDK.
Another thing as you know there is an option of reboot to recovery under about phone updates. When I did that that it showed the 'android' logo. I tried it again but it kept showing the loading sign only.
Also how did you find these files? Thanks again m8. You know just for reference if I'd have to find them myself. Also what are those that say (rolled back).
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-sir, most of your observations are pertaining to V9.6.14.0.OEJMIFD, where I am not on MIUI hence I will wait for other members to step in and share their views about them.
- you can always use "Disable-Force-Encryption-Treble" from https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389, when flashing rom (clean flash, FORMAT DATA) to disable encryption on kernel level.
- since Twrp official doesnt support OTA so if you call recovery from updater, it wont work! you may have to use Orange Fox (oct/nov2018) version which had OTA support or better flash full rom after downloading desired version from https://mirom.ezbox.idv.tw/en/phone/beryllium/roms-global-stable/
- what are you looking is from different world of android devices, such as TEMP ROOT, IVORY ROOT (sony xperia on android 5.1) days only! when nothing used to be changed but just to gain access of certain partition temporarily, temp root techniques used to apply to extract DRM KEYS. ITs not the case here hence you will have to root your device properly!
- about gpu, i never tried but you can used app such as FK kernel manage or Kernel Auditor to play with your GPU accordingly
- twrp usually ask keep system readonly whenever flashed new room its standard warning to avoid any bootloops since Twrp doesn't know you will be flashing kernel and/or disabling dm varity soon. so it warns you.
- don't worry POCO is FREE from ARB4 $hit so when page said ROLLED BACK, it means those version were recalled back for some buggs and an update released soon after!
@YasuHamed So IDK whether I was clear or not, cause I couldn't understand most of the answers you gave me, maybe they got mixed up, IDK. Anyways I'll try to keep it simple and answer in best way possible and keep it organised so there's confusion.
1. Thing I forgot to mention, after flashing 'disable force encryption treble' file, my root stopped working, I thought it was part of the whole bugged system. In actuality, when I checked the steps while it was flashing, it installed Magisk 16.7, I think. That's why root stopped working. After flashing latest Magisk, it worked fine. So, After flashing "disable" file, Can I flash Magisk over it to get the latest Magisk version? Will it affect the disabled function in any way? Currently I have 3 files, which one do you suggest -
Disable-Force-Encryption-Treble.zip
DisableForceEncryption_Treble_v18.0.zip
Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt_08.18.2019.zip
Third one is form the link you provided.
2. DK if TWRP supports OTA, but I was able to boot to TWRP after tapping on reboot to recovery, just saying. By full rom do you mean the stock roms?
3. Did you meant if it checks out in root checker, then it's properly rooted already!?
4. This FK Kernel Manager or Kernel Auditor, you talk about, does it works the same way as Build Prop or GLTools? Cause I'm not an expert in using these tools. I just followed the steps mentioned in this video https://youtu.be/Y1wPIHhM1Yw similarly for the other games I was trying to run by gathering build prop info related to shield tv/tablet/portable but it didn't worked in my favor.
5. So if you chose the option of 'swipe to allow modifications' options instead of 'read only', and your phone boots without any bootloops or anything, as I've done a lot of time on my RN3 without even thinking about it, does that mean that everything's fine? Even when you haven't disabled dm-verity and still are on stock kernel(the one contained in stock roms i think). Does stock kernel changes to custom when you flash a custom rom? Does TWRP makes any changes to stock one if your system boots without any above mentioned problems having stock rom? Any details regarding differences in these two options?
6. When you say an update released soon after? Do you mean same versions were released with bugs fixed or a new/next version was released? In other words, is it ok to try these versions with such bad bugs that they were called back? Were those system breaking bugs fixed in the same version? Also again, I'd really appreciate if you could tell me how'd you find these roms?
7. I'm almost certain that usb tethering is the trigger to these reboots when turning off internet. Cause if I power off the device and turn it on later, then turn on-ff data, it doesn't reboot but sometimes it does. But as soon as I turn usb tethering on, it would reboot and the whole debacle starts again. And the ads kika shows are different along side something related to ram cleaner everytime. So I think it does uses internet. IK you don't use miui, just putting the info out there, if someone thinks of stepping in later.
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Gurkirat_Singh said:
@YasuHamed So IDK whether I was clear or not, cause I couldn't understand most of the answers you gave me, maybe they got mixed up, IDK. Anyways I'll try to keep it simple and answer in best way possible and keep it organised so there's confusion.
1. Thing I forgot to mention, after flashing 'disable force encryption treble' file, my root stopped working, I thought it was part of the whole bugged system. In actuality, when I checked the steps while it was flashing, it installed Magisk 16.7, I think. That's why root stopped working. After flashing latest Magisk, it worked fine. So, After flashing "disable" file, Can I flash Magisk over it to get the latest Magisk version? Will it affect the disabled function in any way? Currently I have 3 files, which one do you suggest -
Disable-Force-Encryption-Treble.zip
DisableForceEncryption_Treble_v18.0.zip
Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt_08.18.2019.zip
Third one is form the link you provided.
I flashed "DisableForceEncryption_Treble_v18.0.zip" and it worked/works, but I always flash before magisk., the current version is Magisk19.3 hence I recomend you to use the updated version, 16.7 is obsolete long back. However if 19.3 may give you bootloops then the max you can go back is Magisk18.0 (since after 18.1, Magisk started using different Script language unknown to some recoveries. However if BOTH (your recovery and Magisk are latest, it should work just fine
2. DK if TWRP supports OTA, but I was able to boot to TWRP after tapping on reboot to recovery, just saying. By full rom do you mean the stock roms?
once on RN5p I tried updating OTA via twrp, it never booted to update hence I recomend you to download full recovery rom 1.8gb, of the build you want and flash it via twrp
3. Did you meant if it checks out in root checker, then it's properly rooted already!?
plz try any root checker and see
4. This FK Kernel Manager or Kernel Auditor, you talk about, does it works the same way as Build Prop or GLTools? Cause I'm not an expert in using these tools. I just followed the steps mentioned in this video https://youtu.be/Y1wPIHhM1Yw similarly for the other games I was trying to run by gathering build prop info related to shield tv/tablet/portable but it didn't worked in my favor.
fk kernel manager or kernel Auditor does support editing build prop, apart from many tweaks for GPU and Cores. the video shows a simple edit in order to think your device is some other version of Galaxy to trick samsung app ; however The boy didn't explain why he just didn't install the already downloaded apk file from fortnite website ?
5. So if you chose the option of 'swipe to allow modifications' options instead of 'read only', and your phone boots without any bootloops or anything, as I've done a lot of time on my RN3 without even thinking about it, does that mean that everything's fine? Even when you haven't disabled dm-verity and still are on stock kernel(the one contained in stock roms i think). Does stock kernel changes to custom when you flash a custom rom? Does TWRP makes any changes to stock one if your system boots without any above mentioned problems having stock rom? Any details regarding differences in these two options?
if you are flashing MIUI From twrp, and DON"T wana ROOT then yes you should never allow system modification because then device will never boot in to system due to DM-Verity. However if you are rooting yoru device, try reading Magisk Lines, It always patch fstab and disable Dm-verity, once its disabled /system parition permision wont be verified on boot. So when you boot in to twrp and you know you are going to flash Magisk, you can ALLOW SYSTEM MODIFICATION swip
on Custom Roms it doesn't matter, because twrp never ask such question. "allow system modification" is only limited to StockRoms
6. When you say an update released soon after? Do you mean same versions were released with bugs fixed or a new/next version was released? In other words, is it ok to try these versions with such bad bugs that they were called back? Were those system breaking bugs fixed in the same version? Also again, I'd really appreciate if you could tell me how'd you find these roms?
the next version above ROLLED BACK one is the bug fixed. (now i don't know what exactly were they) . Also MIUI forums for devices always announce updates! you can google
7. I'm almost certain that usb tethering is the trigger to these reboots when turning off internet. Cause if I power off the device and turn it on later, then turn on-ff data, it doesn't reboot but sometimes it does. But as soon as I turn usb tethering on, it would reboot and the whole debacle starts again. And the ads kika shows are different along side something related to ram cleaner everytime. So I think it does uses internet. IK you don't use miui, just putting the info out there, if someone thinks of stepping in later.
well probably this is the bug of this version 9.6.14 hence you should upgrade atleast to 9.6.20 in order to compare
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@YasuHamed Again a little bit confused by some answers, but I'll try to keep it simple.
1. Do you mean you flash "d-f-e-t" file before magisk? That's what I was asking, does magisk interfere with the steps, this file does, in anyway? And why didn't u used the 'third file', the one from the link you mentioned, isn't that the better one in some ways?
2. I never said I tried to install an OTA through TWRP. I just said I was able to boot to TWRP through 'reboot to recovery' option under system updates tab.
3. I checked it with one 'root checker' app, do I need to check with others? Can you name some?
4. He didn't used the same apk, cause he wanted to show & tried to explain, what kind of changes we were doing to the system, rather than just blindly following the instructions, like what normally happens in these scenarios. I thought that was given, anyways, I've tried same things before in past. When I had the apk, data/obb files of an app/game, I'd simply just try to install them on miui and they'd just crash, but doing the same thing on a custom rom and it works, no special steps. Similarly did all this work, and ended with crashes, maybe I'll do the same thing on a custom rom and it'll work. On that note, do you know where I can download stable builds of lineage OS, or do I just have to research which one is a a stable version, Or is it okay to download any latest nightly builds, the only thing they post on their official website?
5. If one taps on 'read only' option the first time, and when it boots to twrp again and doesn't asks for it. Can one find that option somewhere else in twrp? I did that and still I'm booting normally, how's that possible then, if you say system won't boot!? And what does that option 'allow system modifications' do exactly? How unlocking & rooting are different, security wise? Cause vendors like Xiaomi allow unlocking officially, which means it doesn't void your warranty, though I don't know what would happen if you walk in with an unlocked device in their service centre, cause I've never done it, But they still warn you about data stealing during unlock process etc. Although if you root your device then it's out of warranty, but it's a much simpler process than unlocking. So what's the difference, is the threat real? Or is it just marketing to keep you locked in the stock experience?
6. Again you didn't tell me how'd you find those roms!?
7. It's just really random, sometimes it doesn't restart even when internet is turned off, sometimes with usb tethering on or sometimes not even connected to the pc. Kika still shows them ads, also after an app is installed/uninstalled etc. Other than those appearance changes, I wasn't also able to dial down the brightness to the very low. Whenever i did it, it restarted, camera stopped working etc. I revert the changes I did in build.prop to make it poco again, it rebooted and the boot splash was fixed, but as soon as the ui showed up, the poco launcher kept crashing. It was good that I had my apps opened in background and miui remembers them even after reboot, otherwise there would've been no way to access build.prop, so I revert it back to any shield tv/portable/tablet settings and it started working normally. Finally I've decided, I'm gonna edl flash the stock rom and report back if these bugs happen again(I hope it's only software), I downloaded 2 roms over this period of time i.e. 9.6.14 & 10.3.7.0, will try and get back to you.
Sorry for the late reply, got a little busy.
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Gurkirat_Singh said:
@YasuHamed Again a little bit confused by some answers, but I'll try to keep it simple.
1. Do you mean you flash "d-f-e-t" file before magisk? That's what I was asking, does magisk interfere with the steps, this file does, in anyway? And why didn't u used the 'third file', the one from the link you mentioned, isn't that the better one in some ways?
1- Yes I flashed DFET before Magisk19.3 - and why i didn't use the third file, i remember in post one user confirmed this particular one working for him (atleast) so i downloaded that one.
2. I never said I tried to install an OTA through TWRP. I just said I was able to boot to TWRP through 'reboot to recovery' option under system updates tab.
2- ideally this is the case with recoveries which doesn't support OTA, OrangeFox based on OLD version of TWRP does support OTA , I NEVER TRIED but worth reading the post. you should find it in the Poco Development section
3. I checked it with one 'root checker' app, do I need to check with others? Can you name some?
3- I use THIS ONE
4. He didn't used the same apk, cause he wanted to show & tried to explain, what kind of changes we were doing to the system, rather than just blindly following the instructions, like what normally happens in these scenarios. I thought that was given, anyways, I've tried same things before in past. When I had the apk, data/obb files of an app/game, I'd simply just try to install them on miui and they'd just crash, but doing the same thing on a custom rom and it works, no special steps. Similarly did all this work, and ended with crashes, maybe I'll do the same thing on a custom rom and it'll work. On that note, do you know where I can download stable builds of lineage OS, or do I just have to research which one is a a stable version, Or is it okay to download any latest nightly builds, the only thing they post on their official website?
4- To get general IDEA about altering Build.Prop, The video is Good! however you can not assume Samsung Modded Android over MIUI's one! also It seems the boy in the video has Android7 where Miui Poco is atleast on 8.1, there is huge difference!
The only way to find out whether any type of build.prop (EVEN ON CUSTOM ROMS) will WORK or NOT on POCO; is to Try and find out yourself.
5. If one taps on 'read only' option the first time, and when it boots to twrp again and doesn't asks for it. Can one find that option somewhere else in twrp? I did that and still I'm booting normally, how's that possible then, if you say system won't boot!? And what does that option 'allow system modifications' do exactly? How unlocking & rooting are different, security wise? Cause vendors like Xiaomi allow unlocking officially, which means it doesn't void your warranty, though I don't know what would happen if you walk in with an unlocked device in their service centre, cause I've never done it, But they still warn you about data stealing during unlock process etc. Although if you root your device then it's out of warranty, but it's a much simpler process than unlocking. So what's the difference, is the threat real? Or is it just marketing to keep you locked in the stock experience?
5- Once twrp changes the /System as writable, cannot be undone from Twrp itself - since you have magisk16.7 as you mention earlier the dm-varity is turned off and you are booting normally.
-unlocking means, your device can accept fastboot commands to Alter various Partitions developed by Third Party! /recovery /system /vendor /oem etc
-Rooting is Gaining /system access in Android OS to perform Forbiddon and/or Unsafe Commands / Apps etc
- now your question about security , i will simply say! its HIGHLY UNSECURE to unlock your device & Root it!, there is debate about SeLinux Permissions to be Permissive or Enforcing , SELinux in enforcing mode is considered to be little better and secure but Permissive mode means any command can be run even by hacker to gain your /system access ! REFERENCE
- unlocked bootloader is also very unsafe! anyone can just flash any compatable recovery and atleast WIPE your data!
HENCE this is what i say to all my fellow friends and mates in general! if you are CONCERN security privacy , NEVER ROOT your device! or keep two devices, one being as family device! for fotos, emails contacts etc! and play with the other!
- about warranty! every region has different rules! my country's Xiaomi centre doesn't cover any brick devices because here they are alreadly selling many Redmi fones on UNLOCKED mode! directly from china!
6. Again you didn't tell me how'd you find those roms!?
https://c.mi.com/oc/miuidownload/index select poco and see officially available rom
7. It's just really random, sometimes it doesn't restart even when internet is turned off, sometimes with usb tethering on or sometimes not even connected to the pc. Kika still shows them ads, also after an app is installed/uninstalled etc. Other than those appearance changes, I wasn't also able to dial down the brightness to the very low. Whenever i did it, it restarted, camera stopped working etc. I revert the changes I did in build.prop to make it poco again, it rebooted and the boot splash was fixed, but as soon as the ui showed up, the poco launcher kept crashing. It was good that I had my apps opened in background and miui remembers them even after reboot, otherwise there would've been no way to access build.prop, so I revert it back to any shield tv/portable/tablet settings and it started working normally. Finally I've decided, I'm gonna edl flash the stock rom and report back if these bugs happen again(I hope it's only software), I downloaded 2 roms over this period of time i.e. 9.6.14 & 10.3.7.0, will try and get back to you.
EDL ? you mean fastboot rom flashing via miflasher!, thats not edl! to trigger EDL you must have
1. authorized Xiaomi Account
2. back panel of poco to be opened and short test point to put device in EDL
Sorry for the late reply, got a little busy.
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@YasuHamed
1. I tested the third file. It worked without any problems even after flashing magisk. Cause it doesn't mess or flash any magisk files, it also detects what sort of root the phone have.
3. -> 2. I used the same app to check so.
3. You mention some good points there. That's the same reason, things worked out in custom roms and not miui in my earlier experiences. As miui is heavily loaded compared to any custom rom or samsung experinece. I'll try it on other OSs and report back. On the same note, from what I've read that lineage team doesn't release stable builds or at least not anymore. I'm currently downloading pixel experience. Should I go with this one or lineage os? Is it like any other custom OS or heavily loaded like miui? Also what is the difference between PE normal vs plus vs caf? Also I'm gonna try multi rom, as it would be much better for testing.
4. (new) As you said you use havoc os or havoc kernel I think. Which other custom roms have you tried? Is havoc your favourite one? What sort of uses you make with these custom OSs, just normal daily use or something else? Or anything else you wanna share in this manner about your experience, recommendations or anything else.
5. I think I understand a bit, if I use the option 'swipe to allow system modifications' and do not root my device i.e. not flashing magisk which in turn won't disable dm-verity and then if I try to boot to system, it'll go in booloop?
IF I'm right, then what is "read only & root" vs "allow system modifications & root"? Also I have the latest magisk version. What I was trying to say, "When I flashed the 'first' file out of the three 'dfet' files, it flashed magisk 16.7 as well causing latest magisk manager to not work", which I figured out and fixed immediately.
Also when the first time I flashed twrp, only then I got these options. But later on when I flashed the fresh rom through fastboot and then the recovery I simply got booted to the main menu without getting to choose any of these options. During that, I formatted all the stuff like system, internal storage etc. which i wasn't supposed to format, cause of which I had to flash again, but I forgot to select the 'clean all' option instead of 'clean all and lock' option. So i had to unlock again and flash twrp again. But even after all that twrp remebered all the changes I made to it like time, vibration, brightness settings and again it didn't showed any of those two options. More on this in the last response.........
6. And again you gave me the link to miui's official website. I was asking how'd you find all those older roms at one place.
7. So I finally flashed miui rom today, having high hopes, which were proven to be right first then crushed down later. After I flashed the rom, I tested the heck out of it like turning data on/off, usb tethering on/off, no problem occured, didn't found any bugs except one in data usage, it was showing like 100-600gigs(I don't remember exactly) of usage, then it started showing 1300-1400gigs, but after seeing that my confidence dipped down a little.
But still I moved on and flashed twrp on it to get it rooted. After rooting everything was fine even the data usage bug also went away, then I installed gltools and I had my phone connected to pc in usb tethering, suddenly I hear a sound(it restarted<insert gta sa cj meme>) and it starts all over again. I flashed 9.6.14 ver of rom btw.
As you already know from my response above that I was only able to flash through fastboot mode and I wasn't able to get into edl mode as I read just a few hours ago that it's locked away. So my question is, is there a chance that this all could be solved if the rom is flashed through edl. As that's much more of a clean install rather than fastboot, as I mentioned twrp remembered the settings and all that shiz. Or should I just try another ver of miui I have or the custom rom I've downloaded?
Also to get into edl mode, does both of these requirements needed to be met? Or any 1 should work? :-
Authorised account - So who can get this? Is there any bypass or workaround for it?
Test Point - I don't wanna open my phone, as you know it's new & all, tho it's not a problem if there's no other way. It's just that I have some bad memories regarding test point of my beloved RN3(now dead) so I just wanted to stay away from hardware as long as possible. Is there any bypass or a workaround for it?
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@YasuHamed
1. I tested the third file. It worked without any problems even after flashing magisk. Cause it doesn't mess or flash any magisk files, it also detects what sort of root the phone have.
we i am glad , we have a winner here
3. -> 2. I used the same app to check so.
3. You mention some good points there. That's the same reason, things worked out in custom roms and not miui in my earlier experiences. As miui is heavily loaded compared to any custom rom or samsung experinece. I'll try it on other OSs and report back. On the same note, from what I've read that lineage team doesn't release stable builds or at least not anymore. I'm currently downloading pixel experience. Should I go with this one or lineage os? Is it like any other custom OS or heavily loaded like miui? Also what is the difference between PE normal vs plus vs caf? Also I'm gonna try multi rom, as it would be much better for testing.
Temporarily , LOS is suspended but even unofficial roms till mid August are very stable ! you should try! , hoever Pixel is very popular too, on deeper level what diferences you may find thats only user can discover over time. there is no direct answer to this question! LOS is driven from CynogenMod which was on AOSP wehre Pixel is CAF based, so the difference comes on Kernel Level this means CAF rom may have different Hardware performance / behaviour when compare to AOSP based roms (and vice versa). I am not sure about multirom as a daily driver, yes I would like to try for fun but wont keep it.
4. (new) As you said you use havoc os or havoc kernel I think. Which other custom roms have you tried? Is havoc your favourite one? What sort of uses you make with these custom OSs, just normal daily use or something else? Or anything else you wanna share in this manner about your experience, recommendations or anything else.
on Poco i have tried Nitrogen, Omni, MoKee, BootLeggers, CrDroid, LOS and Havoc..
BootLeggers is pretty stable rom! however CrDroid is outstanding because the developer @gwolfu is more active and releases many updates (sometimes 3-4 in a month). Crdroid has serious level of customization (dirtyUnicorn) and you can change the look of your rom in every possible way you imagine!
so the question is WHY am I on Havoc, well the simple answer is both Crdoid and Havoc Offers serious level of DU customization & variations found on deeper level. some items which crdroid doesn't offer i found in Havoc so I stick to it, moreoever I feel the font and resolution by default in havoc is next to pixel where in Crdoid you manualy have to fix (dpi and font)
now I am on havoc2.8 but I am using Optimus Drunk Kernel (which is also used by CRDROID) - the developer of havoc2.8 offers SHADOW kernel which as I said I feel is not very battery effcient (atleast for me, others can disagree)
5. I think I understand a bit, if I use the option 'swipe to allow system modifications' and do not root my device i.e. not flashing magisk which in turn won't disable dm-verity and then if I try to boot to system, it'll go in booloop?
IF I'm right, then what is "read only & root" vs "allow system modifications & root"? Also I have the latest magisk version. What I was trying to say, "When I flashed the 'first' file out of the three 'dfet' files, it flashed magisk 16.7 as well causing latest magisk manager to not work", which I figured out and fixed immediately.
-keeping system Read only OR swipe to allow /system as writable is on Recovery Level ,
- when you keep system on READY ONLY on recovery Level and later flash magisk, the module magisk modify the /system permission which twrp doesn't know!
-if you "allow system modification on twrp level the /system is now set on writable permission by twrp, and magisk is a module which is always set to alter /system partition permission irespective of Global policy on recovery level
Also when the first time I flashed twrp, only then I got these options. But later on when I flashed the fresh rom through fastboot and then the recovery I simply got booted to the main menu without getting to choose any of these options. During that, I formatted all the stuff like system, internal storage etc. which i wasn't supposed to format, cause of which I had to flash again, but I forgot to select the 'clean all' option instead of 'clean all and lock' option. So i had to unlock again and flash twrp again. But even after all that twrp remebered all the changes I made to it like time, vibration, brightness settings and again it didn't showed any of those two options. More on this in the last response.........
now this let me think a little bit, the only possible explaination (in theory) I found is
- when you flash all or clean flash all, its not necessary that /recovery partition is first erased by miflasher! and recovery.img file has many folders including setting folder! so miflasher and later by you simply there was swaping of recoveries, the Tree was always there! when you reflashed twrp! try to do this way
Code:
fastboot erase recovery
fastboot flash twrp.img
this should erase any previous left over data and settings
try and let me know!
6. And again you gave me the link to miui's official website. I was asking how'd you find all those older roms at one place.
i simply google / web search rom number with device name with code name like Miui9.6.20 fastboot download poco f1 beryllium and google suggest few popular results which usually works for me!
7. So I finally flashed miui rom today, having high hopes, which were proven to be right first then crushed down later. After I flashed the rom, I tested the heck out of it like turning data on/off, usb tethering on/off, no problem occured, didn't found any bugs except one in data usage, it was showing like 100-600gigs(I don't remember exactly) of usage, then it started showing 1300-1400gigs, but after seeing that my confidence dipped down a little.
But still I moved on and flashed twrp on it to get it rooted. After rooting everything was fine even the data usage bug also went away, then I installed gltools and I had my phone connected to pc in usb tethering, suddenly I hear a sound(it restarted<insert gta sa cj meme>) and it starts all over again. I flashed 9.6.14 ver of rom btw.
I would say 9.6.14 had bug so reflashing didnt help! as I said before, consider upgrading atleast to 9.6.20
As you already know from my response above that I was only able to flash through fastboot mode and I wasn't able to get into edl mode as I read just a few hours ago that it's locked away. So my question is, is there a chance that this all could be solved if the rom is flashed through edl. As that's much more of a clean install rather than fastboot, as I mentioned twrp remembered the settings and all that shiz. Or should I just try another ver of miui I have or the custom rom I've downloaded?
Also to get into edl mode, does both of these requirements needed to be met? Or any 1 should work? :-
Authorised account - So who can get this? Is there any bypass or workaround for it?
Test Point - I don't wanna open my phone, as you know it's new & all, tho it's not a problem if there's no other way. It's just that I have some bad memories regarding test point of my beloved RN3(now dead) so I just wanted to stay away from hardware as long as possible. Is there any bypass or a workaround for it?
till MiMax
-holding THREE buttons for 30 seconds used to trigger edl mode
-miflasher simply identify EDL mode and used to flash the beryllium fastboot rom
the question is why they stopped?
well fastboot rom when extracted, hackers can simply alter and repack the img files! YOU CAN EVEN place twrp as "recovery.img" in extracted folder miui will flash twrp thinking its vendor recovery! and the device in EDL mode will accept it..
this was serious security risk! so they capped EDL mode in both ends
- miuiflasher needs AUTHORISED ACCOUNT
- DEVICE won't enter in edl mode unless you remove back cover and under batter wire you short two motherboard points with thin wire or tweaser! (and immediately connect usb calbe to system)
now what can you do?
1. use older version of Miflasher which doesnt verify rom
2. user altered rom of specific build or time to WAKE UP your BRICKED device!
I have never done it so you need to investigate and use your poco as gunie pig to test these methods after REMOVING Back Panel (HIGHLY NOT RECOMENDED
or take device to authorised Mi Dealer and let them EDL for you!
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