[Q] Coming from the HTC family, what can you tell me? - Motorola Photon 4G

For the last couple of years I've held in my hand an HTC device. I became very familiar with their S-OFF procedures and I am just curious what things are like for Motorola users. I know I should probably search, but I'd like some opinions rather than guides. How is Moto's bootloader unlocking different than HTC? Does Moto have an unlock tool like HTC's halfa** tool? Anyone else here move from HTC, is it worth it?
I'm picking one up later today on craigslist so I'd like to know what I'm getting myself into. Currently, I've got an EVO 3D.

I moved to the photon from an EVO 3D as well. I always used HTC phones going as far back as the HTC Mogul. I actually prefer Blur over Sense. There is a ton of little things about this phone that make it better, in my eyes mind you, than the 3D.
I've honestly never even thought about going back to an HTC. That is until now. With the evo lte coming out its provoking the need for a new toy.
I got this phone in October and I still don't wanna run it over with a tank.
Anything specific you wanna know?

No root tool, however, the root method is simple and pain free if you are capable and can follow directions.
Sent from my MB855 using XDA

Thanks for the info! I've wanted the Photon 4G since I renewed last fall but I chose the EVO 3D (coming from the EVO 4G). I was pretty disappointed with the 3D in general and I've regret the decision of getting it in the first place. But from your personal use, how's battery life? Is the Tegra 2 better than the S3/Adreno 220 in the 3D? I enjoy playing games and so far (Modern Combat 3, BackStabHD) have performed pretty well on the 3D. Any experience with these on the P4G?

Go back to the HTC family.
Sent from my ICS Shooter 3D

Battery life on the P4G is a lot better for me at least than the 3D ever was. Another note, reception. Leaps and bounds over Sammy and just a hair better than HTC. Wifi, data, calls and texts. To me 3g is unless on this phone. I sit on a super fast Wifi connection at home and 4g blankets the places I go.
As far as games go, my gaming extent is angry birds and techno kitten adventure.

vitaminjay1982 said:
Battery life on the P4G is a lot better for me at least than the 3D ever was. Another note, reception. Leaps and bounds over Sammy and just a hair better than HTC. Wifi, data, calls and texts. To me 3g is unless on this phone. I sit on a super fast Wifi connection at home and 4g blankets the places I go.
As far as games go, my gaming extent is angry birds and techno kitten adventure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the info. You say 3G is useless because of the WiFi/4G or because there is a problem with 3G?

treetolber said:
Go back to the HTC family.
Sent from my ICS Shooter 3D
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol from experience with the P4G or because you have a 3VO?

3g is fine. I personally can't tolerate how slow it is.

You've got a point. I just assumed it was my area. Everything shows as 3G on my EVO but I swear it's 1x/EvDO. I think it's just to make people happy

Yeah. I work from home so unless I leave the house I'm on a 100meg connection. If my phone ever says 3g, I don't even bother with using data.
Any other specific stuff?

Thats about it. Thanks very much! Once I get the phone I'll post any questions if I have any but it sounds like I'll enjoy it!

Ok I picked up the Photon... so far so good (overall). I have two issues though that maybe you can help me with.
1) Headset might be busted. Plugin in headset the phone goes nuts making calls, bringing up voice commands - tried with two known working headsets. Audio sounds like hissy/tinny. If I push the plug to the side it sounds ok so I'm think it's loose? I'll get a Torx set from RadioShack tomorrow and check more.
2) The phone is slow. On the home screen, swiping between each screen has such a tremendous lag. The music player takes almost a minute to load the songs from my SD card (roughly 3000 songs). I just did another factory reset so we'll see how it goes.

Yeah. That sounds like it's broken.
Hard reset should fix the slow problem. I use ADW EX to replace the shock ui but that's just cause I like it better and I got the circle folders.
Anything else?
Sent from my MB855 using XDA

I tried a gameloft game tonight, Modern Combat 3 and I get to the 3rd splash screen and it reloads the app. I'm downloading the data files for BackStab HD now to see if that one will work.
HDMI out is pretty unimpressive. When you move from one app to another you can see a transparent image of the previous screen behind the active one. Not a big deal, HDMI out isn't a huge deal but for videos/pics I think it'd be fine.
Hopefully tomorrow with be a better day with this puppy. If I keep having problems I'll just claim it through Asurion.
EDIT: HDMI is fine. Problem was with a crappy HDTV.

Your headphone problem alone should get you a free replacement at sprint if you're under the TEP plan... Defective product.
Sent from my MB855 using XDA

vitaminjay1982 said:
Your headphone problem alone should get you a free replacement at sprint if you're under the TEP plan... Defective product.
Sent from my MB855 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even though I didn't buy it from Sprint? I have the TEP plan but they direct me to Asurion regarding any type of TEP claim.

Yeah. Go into the sprint store and tell them your headphone port doesn't work. I got my photon from craigslist. Had a problem with getting texts and it got replaced.
As long as you don't have water damage you sound be fine. I wouldn't take it apart before you bring it in. Let them do it.
Sent from my MB855 using XDA

vitaminjay1982 said:
Yeah. Go into the sprint store and tell them your headphone port doesn't work. I got my photon from craigslist. Had a problem with getting texts and it got replaced.
As long as you don't have water damage you sound be fine. I wouldn't take it apart before you bring it in. Let them do it.
Sent from my MB855 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Battery's wet indicator has been tripped. There isn't one on the phone.

Worth a shot.
Sent from my MB855 using XDA

Related

Evo 3d quality control

I'm not trying to bash the phone or troll so please don't violate my thread.
I'm looking to get the Evo 3d tomorrow but reading over this forum, one would think this phone has pretty bad quality control. I've heard about tilted screens, dust under the screen, dead pixels, loose buttons, yellow tinted images etc.
Every phone has its issues and there will always be some phones that should have ended up in the reject bin that somehow get shipped out but I'm worried that the Evo 3d may be worse than usual. Does this seem to be the case or are these issues simply being exaggerated on this forum?
Thanks
poweroutlet said:
I'm not trying to bash the phone or troll so please don't violate my thread.
I'm looking to get the Evo 3d tomorrow but reading over this forum, one would think this phone has pretty bad quality control. I've heard about tilted screens, dust under the screen, dead pixels, loose buttons, yellow tinted images etc.
Every phone has its issues and there will always be some phones that should have ended up in the reject bin that somehow get shipped out but I'm worried that the Evo 3d may be worse than usual. Does this seem to be the case or are these issues simply being exaggerated on this forum?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No loose buttons or anything of the nature on my device , so far so good, and yeah they always find something wrong with the phone , you should been last year for the EVO 4G forums were hammer about it last year, just get the device and judge it on your own terms after 3 weeks if you think is no for you just get another device which most likely will have some problems too, I do recomend insurance tho cause you never know what could happen
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk
poweroutlet said:
I'm not trying to bash the phone or troll so please don't violate my thread.
I'm looking to get the Evo 3d tomorrow but reading over this forum, one would think this phone has pretty bad quality control. I've heard about tilted screens, dust under the screen, dead pixels, loose buttons, yellow tinted images etc.
Every phone has its issues and there will always be some phones that should have ended up in the reject bin that somehow get shipped out but I'm worried that the Evo 3d may be worse than usual. Does this seem to be the case or are these issues simply being exaggerated on this forum?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No trolling...
Don't judge a phone by its forums. Simple as that. If you do, every phone looks like its riddled without issues. People go to forums looking for answers about issues with the phone. Just get one. If you happen to have one of the issues (check before leaving the store) just hand it back over and ask for another. It really is that easy. That's what I did. I got one without issues first time though. But I went through a standard checklist I have in my head before leaving the store.
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk
Well the tilted screen is nothing, I am a perfectionist, and Im able to get over the slightly and barely noticable tilted screen. In fact I didnt notice till people complained about it. the loose 2d 3d button is also no biggie. Yellow tinted screen? I dont think you would realize you had it unless its next to a blue tinted screen in which case you may prefer the blue over the yellow, but alone it make no difference.
Unfortunately alot of is true I replaced one for stuck green pixels and this ones screen has a slight tilt , a tiny missing spec of paint bye the menu button and light bleed at the bottom . Lots of folks here would return it for just one of these issues but I can live with it not a big Deal unless your putting it under the microscope .
I say inspect it well before you leave the store and if nothing jumps out at you don't look for it
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
This same issue keeps me from buying one. I am off contract and would like to buy one off of eBay because they run for about 350 NIB there but I am afraid to get a bad one.
But also granted as some posters said the og evo also had problems during release as well. Maybe it's best to wait until they get through the first gen releases
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
it is no worse than any other phone that i have been a part of.. there are always bad eggs in a batch, you just pray you dont get one.. when the hero came out forever ago, it had the dust under the screen issues, i know people that had all kinds of issues with the orig evo.. the problem in the 3d forum is you are getting a lot of very vocal people, all coming from multiple devices.. and there is a lot of ignorace floating around too.. as well as people are looking for things not to like since we dont have permenant root yet..
i personally have no issues with the phone, i know several other people who have it as well, and they have no issues.. i wouldnt worry about it, if you get one with an issue, take it back..
felacio said:
No trolling...
Don't judge a phone by its forums. Simple as that. If you do, every phone looks like its riddled without issues. People go to forums looking for answers about issues with the phone. Just get one. If you happen to have one of the issues (check before leaving the store) just hand it back over and ask for another. It really is that easy. That's what I did. I got one without issues first time though. But I went through a standard checklist I have in my head before leaving the store.
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 this.
I'm on my 2nd completely perfect E3D. I went through a bunch trying to find one with a good radio and couldn't. They all suck...but not as bad as the Samsung radios...trust me. It is likely that it is mostly cosmetic in nature anyway.
...and those other ones I had them open up and turn on? All perfect in all of the ways that are typically mentioned as fubar on this forum. The only thing I noticed was vary levels of screen-tilt. Nothing major. I'm anal about stuff like that, but, I didn't even find any of them distracting...though I did make it a point to take one without any.
That's how forums are. When I went looking for a new truck I looked around, 95% of the people there are people who just had **** luck...the other 99.5% of the people who purchased these trucks had none of those problems. But, when you get something and it performs as expected you don't tell everyone about it--but when something is screwed up you tell everybody.
Same for my current apartment. I read on all the rental sites and you would think this place was a vermin infested ghetto that had piss-smell in the hallways, ceilings caving in, holes in walls and daily knife fights in the parking lot....even though it they are actually the luxury apartments with every amenity...I have not once seen "garbage in all the halls all the time" that was mentioned, nor have I ever once "smelled them smoking drugs" in the stairwells. The dumpsters are never "over flowing with trash" and not only is the parking lot not "full constantly i have to park a mile away from my house" as stated by many people, there is in fact 4-5 times more parking than tenants....
When I ran a computer repair shop it seemed obvious that compaq couldn't make a computer that ran to save their goddamned life...cuz I only saw the broken ones.
Complainers complain because they got something that doesn't work how they thought it would/is supposed to. You can't blame them for being upset and loud...but the vast majority all got something that does exactly what it is supposed to (for the most part) so has no need to go on and on about it.
Ide do craigslist not ebay ide have to see it my friend at radio shack let me inspect 2 the first time and three the next they all had (dust ?) Under the screen . So I've got the best of five and have the issues mentioned above
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
All valid concerns. I don't think the phone has bad quality control, just some really minor stuff that perfectionists (xda-ists) notice. When you go to the store, ask them to take it out of the box and tell them you want to inspect the screen BEFORE it is activated. Don't let them tell you they can't power it up without activating it. That's not true. If you see it first, you can judge for yourself.
Mike
Here's a tip launch the camera app on 3d and cover the lens to make the screen black . The first one slipped bye because the Green specs where only visible on 3d weird I know . Didn't notice till I watched the stupid green lantern movie
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
Thanks for the responses.
I plan to ask the sprint store to let me inspect the phone before activating. I should be able to check for dead pixels easily along with loose buttons. To be honest I can't even notice the tilted screen from the pictures posted here and I certainly didn't notice it on the evo 3d on display at the sprint store. I hope I get a good unit.
An awesome phone
I guess I'm lucky -- hardware-wise, my 3D seems perfect.
Firmware-wise, I could give you a list of (mostly minor) areas where IMHO the 3D is a step backward from the EVO 4G. However, I acquired my 4G only in January of this year, by which time HTC and Sprint must have ironed out most or all of the issues. With a few more OTA updates the 3D should be unstoppable.
For me, the speed of the new CPU and Sense 3.0 are reason enough to get the 3D. When you go to test the phone, check out the new weather app, for example -- sweet!
jasmithers said:
I guess I'm lucky -- hardware-wise, my 3D seems perfect.
Firmware-wise, I could give you a list of (mostly minor) areas where IMHO the 3D is a step backward from the EVO 4G. However, I acquired my 4G only in January of this year, by which time HTC and Sprint must have ironed out most or all of the issues. With a few more OTA updates the 3D should be unstoppable.
For me, the speed of the new CPU and Sense 3.0 are reason enough to get the 3D. When you go to test the phone, check out the new weather app, for example -- sweet!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I'm not too terribly worried about software issues. For that we have HTC which will probably address most issues with OTAs and also the great community here to offer further support.
I am on my second... First one was perfection except 3g reception was non-existent. This one has much better reception, but all the hard buttons are mushy and non responsive and the ****ing 2D/3D button rattles like a banshee. None of these were issues in first one. Looks like I am gonna chance a third try tomorrow.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA Premium App
Quality control on these phones is aweful. I've been through 3 in 4 days. I would have had my 4th today but I'm sick of returning phones. First phone took green pics. 2nd one took blotchy pics and the cameras were not even close to being centered properly and my 3rd and current one is having problems with the screen becoming unresponsive.
I was the first person in my town to own a EVO 4g and that phone was awesome from day one.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
I agree with what most of you guys have said. To add to that tho, I think with anything tech related, the people with problems are only a small minority, and because they do have problems they're gonna be the loudest, and that's all you'll ever hear esp. on a site like this. It's like eating out at a restaurant. I'm betting money that 9 times out of 10 you're more likely to go out of your way to write a novel online abt a restaurant you got horrible service from, than you are to even think abt reviewing the restaurant at all if you got average service. So I would say that you see more complaint threads because the majority of us with good EVO's don't start threads abt how average our EVO's are. Although if people do have legit problems, by all means they should be allowed to let the world know. It just sucks when their problems come from them being OCD, then it really is like a bad apple spoiling the barrel or however that saying goes.
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA App
Simply put if you get it you'd better check it out before you even leave the store. HTC's QC on this phone was absolutely terrible. How they managed to miss the tons of phones with tilted screens is beyond me.
+10
i agree this tread
Optimus 3d have only battery problem= no problem
It seems like everyone at XDA has something in common. We are all OCD and we will find something wrong with almost everything.
To a normal person, not one issue here would have any effect on them or would they even know what we were talking about.

[Q] How do I unroot my Photon?

I need instructions on how to use adb to unroot my Photon. I rooted it without the dock per this forum's instructions. And yes, I'm still a noob so I don't know what sbf is. But I can follow instructions very well, at least to a certain point.
I need help because I am returning my Photon tomorrow because I can't stand using the camera and the screen. It bothers me too much. Worse yet, I use my phone as a mp3 player and it seems to be very slow at that. With the screen off and using headset controls, it doesn't respond as fast if at all like my Optimus V or Motorola Triumph does. I'm pretty disappointed with the Tegra 2, seems almost as if it was overrated to begin with. I probably had set my expectations too high from the beginning.
I'm not much of a gamer, so graphics that the Tegra 2 is suppose to be able to put out doesn't bother me too much. I just prefer the snapdragons because they seem to work better for my needs.
And the screen. It looks great when I'm watching an mkv movie, but that's it. It doesn't do other things well enough for me. My pictures all look too grainy and pixelated. At times, when looking at skin tones, all i see are the square blotches and no smooth pictures, even hd pictures don't look right.
The camera is too slow to respond and to be honest, my Motorola Triumph takes better pictures and seems to work faster at it than the Photon.
overthatscreen said:
I need instructions on how to use adb to unroot my Photon. I rooted it without the dock per this forum's instructions. And yes, I'm still a noob so I don't know what sbf is. But I can follow instructions very well, at least to a certain point.
I need help because I am returning my Photon tomorrow because I can't stand using the camera and the screen. It bothers me too much. Worse yet, I use my phone as a mp3 player and it seems to be very slow at that. With the screen off and using headset controls, it doesn't respond as fast if at all like my Optimus V or Motorola Triumph does. I'm pretty disappointed with the Tegra 2, seems almost as if it was overrated to begin with. I probably had set my expectations too high from the beginning.
I'm not much of a gamer, so graphics that the Tegra 2 is suppose to be able to put out doesn't bother me too much. I just prefer the snapdragons because they seem to work better for my needs.
And the screen. It looks great when I'm watching an mkv movie, but that's it. It doesn't do other things well enough for me. My pictures all look too grainy and pixelated. At times, when looking at skin tones, all i see are the square blotches and no smooth pictures, even hd pictures don't look right.
The camera is too slow to respond and to be honest, my Motorola Triumph takes better pictures and seems to work faster at it than the Photon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i doubt they will know its rooted and they probably wont care if it is....just dont say anything, but if you want to appear un rooted just delet all root user apps i.e. file explorer, wifi tether,root checker and anything that would suggest that its rooted, but it isnt really that big of a deal.
its shady....you should have root access to all your devices. Computers allow root access why not phones?
I just got rid of my 3d. Dont waste your time if you think this phone has problems the 3d is a nightmare... trust me i had mine for 3 weeks. A couple problems i had was camera sticks to 3d in 2d mode after a couple hours of use screen turns black and you have to pull battery at least twice a day battery goes from hero to zero in 2 hours with moderate use i thought the camera app was kinda weak the whole phone lags when you open app draw, browsing the market, while your on the web browser, the list just goes on and on... trust me you'll thank me later
.
Sent from my MB855 using XDA App
I actually like the 3D more than the Photon. The wife has one and everything seems to work very well on it. I'm not into taking 3D pics, I just prefer the new Evo to the old one.
So anyways.. All I have to do is remove all the root apps and that's it? No going back in and removing the torpedo stuff?
I don't think it matters if it is rooted or not, but you can use this thread to go back to a stock un-rooted Moto rom.
overthatscreen said:
I actually like the 3D more than the Photon. The wife has one and everything seems to work very well on it. I'm not into taking 3D pics, I just prefer the new Evo to the old one.
So anyways.. All I have to do is remove all the root apps and that's it? No going back in and removing the torpedo stuff?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think twice before getting rid of a photon for a 3d. I had my 3d for 2 months and was in the sprint store atleast once a week wither verified problems. Enough so that even tho I was over my 30 days they still gave me a photon.
Sent from my Motorola Photon using Tapatalk
ooxcfhxoo said:
i doubt they will know its rooted and they probably wont care if it is....just dont say anything, but if you want to appear un rooted just delet all root user apps i.e. file explorer, wifi tether,root checker and anything that would suggest that its rooted, but it isnt really that big of a deal.
its shady....you should have root access to all your devices. Computers allow root access why not phones?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hate to say it, but yes, we (Sprint retail corporate stores) do check Android devices for rooting prior to exchange/return and on exchanges/returns, you may also be liable for a restocking fee of $35. Our S&R technicians taught each of us how to verify rooting.
wireless.praying.mantis said:
I hate to say it, but yes, we (Sprint retail corporate stores) do check Android devices for rooting prior to exchange/return and on exchanges/returns, you may also be liable for a restocking fee of $35. Our S&R technicians taught each of us how to verify rooting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even when there is a internal notice saying that service can be performed on rooted phones, you saying that I could still be liable for the restocking fee?
Sprint service and repair facts
TS
wireless.praying.mantis said:
I hate to say it, but yes, we (Sprint retail corporate stores) do check Android devices for rooting prior to exchange/return and on exchanges/returns, you may also be liable for a restocking fee of $35. Our S&R technicians taught each of us how to verify rooting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I turned in my rooted EVO 3d last week. I was 3 weeks past my 30 days, the manager and the head tech were super cool about it. I even offered to unroot it but they said it didn't matter. The tech was even questioning me about how I liked the rom.
Sent from my Motorola Photon using Tapatalk
I think 1/2 the members of this forum has returned/exchanged a rooted phone...I know for sure I have. Back when I got into the whole rooting thing, I used to be paranoid whenever I took my phone in; now THATS the least of my concerns.
People need to stop slinging all that nonsense of voided warranties & restocking fees. If Sprint's good with it....so am I.
I've also returned a rooted phone and Sprint had no issues with it at all.
twospirits said:
Even when there is a internal notice saying that service can be performed on rooted phones, you saying that I could still be liable for the restocking fee?
Sprint service and repair facts
TS
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is a restocking fee to return a phone period, it doesn't matter if it's rooted or not. Exchanging for the same phone because it's allegedly defective is free, changing models comes with a restocking charge. And going from the photon to the evo is a huge step backwards.... Everyone except 1 person I know with the 3d switched or is planning on switching to the photon.
Sent from my MB855 using XDA Premium App
wireless.praying.mantis said:
I hate to say it, but yes, we (Sprint retail corporate stores) do check Android devices for rooting prior to exchange/return and on exchanges/returns, you may also be liable for a restocking fee of $35. Our S&R technicians taught each of us how to verify rooting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am sure there are some employees that know how to check to see if a phone is rooted or not, but it is by no means the standard. As countless people have said in various threads, I have returned and had work performed on rooted phones.
I have come across so many sales associates that don't even know phone details/specs. I doubt they know how to check to see if a phone is rooted or not.
so is there a way to unroot or not? I need to return my phone for repairs. I already updated to the final build, so should I just do that again to unroot it even though it hasn't been released yet?
unroot for return or exchange
SIMPLE SINCE U HAVE to manually install superuser from market to gain root anyways,unlike normal method where it installs right from a rooting program,just go to application manage delete superuser,delete all trace of apps that use root or better yet do a factory reset.. superuser should uninstall, really seeing superuser on screen is the most common sign of rooted phone.
You could try the terminal emulator root method but instead of typing the last prompt as install.so-sh type uninstall
Just an idea! Also I know flashing sbf file with rsdlite looses root with no signs of ever being flashed
Good Luck
Not exactly true...
codee said:
There is a restocking fee to return a phone period, it doesn't matter if it's rooted or not. Exchanging for the same phone because it's allegedly defective is free, changing models comes with a restocking charge. And going from the photon to the evo is a huge step backwards.... Everyone except 1 person I know with the 3d switched or is planning on switching to the photon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
codee said:
Sent from my MB855 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm returning the Photon within my first 30 days of being a new sprint customer, and exchanging for a Samsung Galaxy II (EPIC 2 4G) with no restocking fee . The photon truly is a piece of $h1t that was not ready for release, not to mention the Idiots who designed it, approved the design, tested it after build to realize that when it is in kickstand mode, you can't charge the P.O.S. lol and out of the box, it won't play most videos that you put on it, even MP4's . Plus the amount of battery pulls is ridiculous. Trying to assign certain ringtone MP3's causes it to ring but lock up, and these are the same small 128k MP3s that all my old phones used, including my G1, MyTouch 3G, and Samsung Galaxy (ALL TMO phones). All of them can play all my videos, but the photon stutters and loses sync, etc. this is a "Not Ready for Prime Time" release just to get something out there. Shame too because I really liked the feel.. And the speakerphone is the loudest I've heard in ages... At least on a smartphone...
Right there with you bud.. I was sold on the photon by overhearing one on speakerphone, but didn't get a close look at it. I bought it online. What a dismal piece of hardware. Out of the box, it could not and would not play any of the MP4's, mkv's or FLV's that my TMO myTouch and Vibrant played. When playing a video with the kickstand open, you can't charge it. As a nightstand clock? HA The A-Hole who designed that should be fired. Sure, we all want a smartphone that can't be charged overnight while using as an alarm clock (with the kickstand) or while watching videos... Haa.. Add to that the frequent lockups when trying to play any of my MP3s (which all ringtones on my other phones) , which requires pulling the battery to get it to shut up... The lousy slow and sluggish interface and the gallery is a nightmare compared to Samsung's UI... No thanks MoPho... Back you go. Your only feature that is any good is the speakerphone, and I just don't use it often enough to put up with such a terribly pixelated screen. This is NOTHING like the SAMOLED.... qHD? I think not. Save the marketing terms... Build a good phone we can buy and enjoy.
The kickstand works both ways. Flip the phone over 180 degrees. It will stand that way too. Then you can charge at the same time.
It actually stands upright too, just not as stable.
So back to topic please...
I'm trying to sale my Photon to get the SGS 2 and I need to un root it.
Can someone please provide a step by step on how to un root this phone thanks in advance
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium

Returned EVO for issues. Second one is perfect.

My first EVO that I bought on launch day was having some issues. Sense reloading, WiFi not disconnecting after I left my house, 3g sucked, battery life wasn't the greatest, and just seemed laggy. The guys at best buy tried argueing with me and said to reproduce the issues. I was able to show them the 3g connection and my WiFi issue. The guys tried telling me the WiFi was because the phone will automatically connect to all open access points. This is where we started to argue for a minute or two. I told them that was BS, we argued for a few seconds then I cut him off and asked, "Are u going to honor your return policy or what?" I hate it when Best Buy employees try to act that they know everything.
Anyways, the second EVO is running great. WiFi acts normal, way less lag, battery has gone for 2 full days without being charged and moderate use. And sense hasn't reloaded one time yet. Im really glad I traded it out for another instead of just returning. I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
sminker said:
My first EVO that I bought on launch day was having some issues. Sense reloading, WiFi not disconnecting after I left my house, 3g sucked, battery life wasn't the greatest, and just seemed laggy. The guys at best buy tried argueing with me and said to reproduce the issues. I was able to show them the 3g connection and my WiFi issue. The guys tried telling me the WiFi was because the phone will automatically connect to all open access points. This is where we started to argue for a minute or two. I told them that was BS, we argued for a few seconds then I cut him off and asked, "Are u going to honor your return policy or what?" I hate it when Best Buy employees try to act that they know everything.
Anyways, the second EVO is running great. WiFi acts normal, way less lag, battery has gone for 2 full days without being charged and moderate use. And sense hasn't reloaded one time yet. Im really glad I traded it out for another instead of just returning. I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
evo401 said:
thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Best Buy isn't that bad about returns, Sprint on the other hand Good luck
Anything that marks this phone as a second revision to the initial? Anything on the box, like Rev. 2 or Rev. B?
darkfire23 said:
Anything that marks this phone as a second revision to the initial? Anything on the box, like Rev. 2 or Rev. B?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The hardware revision in the settings is the same. I'll check the box tomorrow.
evo401 said:
thats whats up man! im in the same boat my 3g sux my wifi act's funny.. same problem u were having.. seems to go away then comes back?? i dont kno what to do.. i quess if it keeps up im gona bring it to the sprint store.. my luck the problems wont happen while im at the damm store!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HTC has a built in feature called SmartSync, which disables data after a period of non-use for deep sleep. If you check the dev threads, there's a fix for it, but it requires some smali editing. Some of the more recent roms have it built in. So the whole WiFi/3G disconnect thing is actually a feature believe it or not...lol
I believe I am lucky. Even though there are the multitasking issued, which everyone has, my EVO has never done the loading sense home screen thing... And I run some memory hoggin apps. Grindr, last.fm, maps, xda, browser, mail. Never had the reload show up yet.
Sent from my EVO using XDA
sminker said:
I'm going to give it one more week before I root. I'm missing my apps from my OG EVO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What apps, do tell
Sent from my EVO using XDA
im having the light leak issue also.
also the sticker i had was black, like some generic sticker placed over the small clear one that was probably broken already.
i may have been sold one that someone returned. mf's
question: do i have to go to the same store i bought it at to exchange it?
I understand your pain dealing with people that are less knowledgeable than you (a Sprint rep tried to tell me that the SD card on my phone could be what was causing the reception issues if the card was 32gigs, no joke). However, try to understand that most of the time these people are just following instructions set forth by their employers. When things usually start to escalate like that, stay polite and ask for a manager. Believe me, it works better.
Anyway, I'm glad you got a non-defective phone and can start to enjoy it
shook187 said:
Best Buy isn't that bad about returns, Sprint on the other hand Good luck
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I exchanged my first EVO LTO for frequent reboots at a Sprint Corporate store, 2nd one perfect!
On my third LTE. Should have kept the first one. Hope the new shipment BB gets is better than the ones they had last week.
First LTE: Dust under glass and slight light leakage
Second: Pixel stuck in on position and screen has the flex/ripple issue when under medium pressure
Third: Has flex/ripple issue as well and wifi on this one and 3 G has been worse than the first two
Next shipment comes in Friday. Crossing my fingers for a GOOD one!
My first was light leakage and second was ripple and all I can find around here all have the ripple, hope this goes away in the upcoming batches...
Sent from my PC36100 using xda premium
cjrdriven said:
On my third LTE. Should have kept the first one. Hope the new shipment BB gets is better than the ones they had last week.
First LTE: Dust under glass and slight light leakage
Second: Pixel stuck in on position and screen has the flex/ripple issue when under medium pressure
Third: Has flex/ripple issue as well and wifi on this one and 3 G has been worse than the first two
Next shipment comes in Friday. Crossing my fingers for a GOOD one!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Omg I would switch to another phone after the first one Wtf is wrong with you guys. There are more superior phones oops did I just say that yes I did.
I had to return my first one as well. I was not getting calls txt or voice mails. Data worked find but nothing else.
exchanged it at best buy, and all my messages came through right away.
I suspect that it was not a phone issue but an activation issue.
jbadboy2007 said:
Omg I would switch to another phone after the first one Wtf is wrong with you guys. There are more superior phones oops did I just say that yes I did.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You mean like the Galaxy S3, the phone that will have zero problems on launch day? Good luck. My first Evo had a bad pixel, and I am waiting on the replacement. I was going to get the SG3 instead, but after reading the UK SG3 threads, there are a lot of issues. I decided that the Evo is best for me. Whether it is superior or not is subjective.
Yeah, as stated above, it will have issues. Hell, go to the S3 forums here at xda and review the complaints of various folks.
In the end, my EVO is imperfect, but as usual with HTC, software updates will fix these annoyances, so I'll be patient.
darkfire23 said:
Yeah, as stated above, it will have issues. Hell, go to the S3 forums here at xda and review the complaints of various folks.
In the end, my EVO is imperfect, but as usual with HTC, software updates will fix these annoyances, so I'll be patient.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm guessing you didn't have their Touch Pro? I went Samsung after that. That being said I will never buy another Samsung phone, they don't support their phones for ****. I'm with you though I'll take the minor data drops and wait out HTC patches and the much stronger dev support system..
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
It is amazing to have the chance to compare two different phones. I ended up unfortunately having that experience after I dropped my brand new EVO LTE in the toilet. My first phone I noticed that it didn't auto dock on my car dock even with the option turned on.
Haven't tried the camera on the new phone but old phone seemed like it didn't take sharp pictures like I was expecting but ones that were more out of focus than really blurry.
sivarticus85 said:
HTC has a built in feature called SmartSync, which disables data after a period of non-use for deep sleep. If you check the dev threads, there's a fix for it, but it requires some smali editing. Some of the more recent roms have it built in. So the whole WiFi/3G disconnect thing is actually a feature believe it or not...lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which roms have this built in? I returned my EVO recently and my new phone has the same wifi problems. I would like to try a rom before returning the phone again.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium

Asurion Replacement for HTC Evo 3D is...

my wife dropped her HTC Evo 3D and cracked the screen, she has Insurance so i jumped onto Asurion.com and was going through the Process, i know at times they offer the EpicTouch4G as a replacement, but they were offering her a HTCEVO-Standard, is this the Older HTC Evo 4G? the one she upgraded from a year ago to the Evo 3D, and now they are trying to give it to her as a replacement for the 3D, i understand you get something of equal , but i really consider that a DOWNGRADE, i know it couldnt be the HTC Evo LTE, seems like it would of said something like HTCEVO-LTE or something along that, i could be wrong, anyone know for sure what the HTCEVO-standard is? am i correct at thinking its the HTC EVO 4G?
I'm pretty sure it's the Evo 4G. Call and get something better. Ask for a SG2
Sent from my PG86100 using XDA
lol, I'd be so pissed if they tried to do that to me. Granted I was given a 3D as a replacement for my 4G, but you can't go the other way, that's just shady.
Ya I would be pissed too. I used my upgrade to go from my EVO 4g to my 3d. I would he asking for my upgrade back.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
I'm sure they wouldn't downgrade you. Then again I'm sure they'd try to downgrade you. Lol. Make sure it is the latest EVO 4G LTE. That's my next phone.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
Delakit said:
I'm sure they wouldn't downgrade you. Then again I'm sure they'd try to downgrade you. Lol. Make sure it is the latest EVO 4G LTE. That's my next phone.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ya maybe that's what they meant by EVO 4g. I would double check. If that's the case jump on it quick
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
They jacking her, ha
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
I called them and it was the old HTC EVO 4g and not the EVO 4g LTE , I told them I was not going to give them $100 to go back to a 4G, I explained that only a year ago I had the HTC EVO 4g and paid $200 to upgrade to the EVO 3d, now I have to pay $100 to get a 4g back again, so $300 and 2 years later I have the phone I started out on, the EVO 4g, I told her I was not happy and wasn't doing it, she insisted they were comparable and that's all she could offer, or I could wait 5 days for their stock of EVO 3d's to come in and they would ship me one and I would get it within 2 days of when they come in, again I wasn't happy, having to wait 7+ days for my wife to have a working phone, so I asked to speak to her manager, she put me on hold and I guess switched me over to a manager which then I explained to her my situation, she put me on hold so she could check their inventory of phones, she then came back and said she could offer me the Samsung galaxy s2 which I gladly accepted, I also got this as a replacement for my 3d, I just wonder how many people actually accept the EVO 4g as a replacement for their broken 3d?
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2
Thanks for posting the thread... It's good to be informed about what's being given as replacements. My EVO3d has a gimpy touch screen. Sometimes it takes several screen cycles to bring it back, and it fights like hell in call. Just can't decide when to pull the trigger on the old girl...
chris502ky said:
I called them and it was the old HTC EVO 4g and not the EVO 4g LTE , I told them I was not going to give them $100 to go back to a 4G, I explained that only a year ago I had the HTC EVO 4g and paid $200 to upgrade to the EVO 3d, now I have to pay $100 to get a 4g back again, so $300 and 2 years later I have the phone I started out on, the EVO 4g, I told her I was not happy and wasn't doing it, she insisted they were comparable and that's all she could offer, or I could wait 5 days for their stock of EVO 3d's to come in and they would ship me one and I would get it within 2 days of when they come in, again I wasn't happy, having to wait 7+ days for my wife to have a working phone, so I asked to speak to her manager, she put me on hold and I guess switched me over to a manager which then I explained to her my situation, she put me on hold so she could check their inventory of phones, she then came back and said she could offer me the Samsung galaxy s2 which I gladly accepted, I also got this as a replacement for my 3d, I just wonder how many people actually accept the EVO 4g as a replacement for their broken 3d?
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
People gotta be stupid to settle for less
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
jdawglx01 said:
Thanks for posting the thread... It's good to be informed about what's being given as replacements. My EVO3d has a gimpy touch screen. Sometimes it takes several screen cycles to bring it back, and it fights like hell in call. Just can't decide when to pull the trigger on the old girl...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine does the same thing and I already got the screen replaced on it once. It acts up about twice a week and I usually just restart the phone. I'd be happy with a SG2 replacement if it comes down to it.
What do you mean by screen cycles?
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
o0adam0o said:
Mine does the same thing and I already got the screen replaced on it once. It acts up about twice a week and I usually just restart the phone. I'd be happy with a SG2 replacement if it comes down to it.
What do you mean by screen cycles?
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, bad explanation, I hit the power button to turn the screen on and off until I get it to respond. It usually makes it through the ring lock, but then its either unresponsive or acts like there's pressure. Sometimes the capacitive buttons may not work either (actually more like a majority of the time). It happens a lot, like maybe 10-20% of the time I want to use the phone, seems to be getting worse. Maybe I better deal with it before I get locked out...
I'm a little leery of Samsung after my Moment debacle, but I can't deny that the Transform was alright and my wife's Intercept did do the job well. It seems they've made strides for sure.
jdawglx01 said:
Sorry, bad explanation, I hit the power button to turn the screen on and off until I get it to respond. It usually makes it through the ring lock, but then its either unresponsive or acts like there's pressure. Sometimes the capacitive buttons may not work either (actually more like a majority of the time). It happens a lot, like maybe 10-20% of the time I want to use the phone, seems to be getting worse. Maybe I better deal with it before I get locked out...
I'm a little leery of Samsung after my Moment debacle, but I can't deny that the Transform was alright and my wife's Intercept did do the job well. It seems they've made strides for sure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if i had a non working EVO 3D id absolutely would get that switched out with an S2, they just got their official ICS out, and its bigger and faster.
my girl has an T-Mobile S2 and it screams, its great to use and handle. and takes 100x better pictures.. "someone" on xda whoses a "tmo tech" let out that the TMO S2 is set for an Official JB update later this year after the S3 gets it.
the extend batteries and accessory options are better and cheaper as well.
and if it wasnt bad enough the Epic 4g Touch has the better and faster chipset than the TMO S2.
Pull the trigger if u got the chance....
Oh and its also worth more too in the resale market...
jdawglx01 said:
Sorry, bad explanation, I hit the power button to turn the screen on and off until I get it to respond. It usually makes it through the ring lock, but then its either unresponsive or acts like there's pressure. Sometimes the capacitive buttons may not work either (actually more like a majority of the time). It happens a lot, like maybe 10-20% of the time I want to use the phone, seems to be getting worse. Maybe I better deal with it before I get locked out...
I'm a little leery of Samsung after my Moment debacle, but I can't deny that the Transform was alright and my wife's Intercept did do the job well. It seems they've made strides for sure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see... Yeah I do the same thing to fix mine. Exact same thing happens to me that the buttons don't even work.
I've considered trying to get a replacement but last time I tried they just restored my phone and the problem stopped. Now it's happening again.
Sent from my PG86100 using xda app-developers app
Her replacement arrived today and its brand new not a refurbished , she couldnt be happier! If I was you I would pull the trigger as soon as I seen the replacement as a epic touch 4g or if it says HTC EVO standard call and tell them u don't wanna downgrade and ask what else they have to offer, u might have to be firm with them and talk to a manager but just let them know u don't want the EVO 4g as a replacement, good luck!
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2
My evo 3d does not conect to computer and somtimes it freezes. My cousin has the galaxy s2 but in my opinion i like the htc sence and rom over the samsung. I also know that there is a better selection of roms to chose from on the evo 3d. I am on mikvergin rom and cant wait for ice cream sandwich so i can overlock the deoman. Sorry for the spelling i am on my 8th beer.i also have s-of on hboot 1.5
Good deal
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
Yes, you should get a Galaxy S2 replacement!
Asurion replaced my Evo3D with a GS2 on June 5. It wasn't a refurb, it was brand new. The GS2 was the only choice I had, and I was really upset until I received it. I loved my Evo3D! I miss the 3d and the Sense UI. :crying:
I'm really happy with the Galaxy S2 now tho, especially the USB storage.
I wouldn't have taken the Evo4G, either -- that's b.s! Good luck to the people with future 3d accidents! Insist on the GS2 and don't accept less!
(I had dropped the Evo3D on the street getting out of my car, in Texas, in 105°! I didn't notice for 30 minutes, and it cooked the bottom buttons, (home-menu etc.)
jdawglx01 said:
Sorry, bad explanation, I hit the power button to turn the screen on and off until I get it to respond. It usually makes it through the ring lock, but then its either unresponsive or acts like there's pressure. Sometimes the capacitive buttons may not work either (actually more like a majority of the time). It happens a lot, like maybe 10-20% of the time I want to use the phone, seems to be getting worse. Maybe I better deal with it before I get locked out...
I'm a little leery of Samsung after my Moment debacle, but I can't deny that the Transform was alright and my wife's Intercept did do the job well. It seems they've made strides for sure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung Moment, a nightmare of a phone that will haunt me for the rest of my existence, but this E4GT is hella worth it especially with CM9 on it!
spaceosc said:
if i had a non working EVO 3D id absolutely would get that switched out with an S2, they just got their official ICS out, and its bigger and faster.
my girl has an T-Mobile S2 and it screams, its great to use and handle. and takes 100x better pictures.. "someone" on xda whoses a "tmo tech" let out that the TMO S2 is set for an Official JB update later this year after the S3 gets it.
the extend batteries and accessory options are better and cheaper as well.
and if it wasnt bad enough the Epic 4g Touch has the better and faster chipset than the TMO S2.
Pull the trigger if u got the chance....
Oh and its also worth more too in the resale market...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung/Sprint borked the shat out of the ICS update for this phone, ppl are saying they think it's deliberate so we'll just go out & buy the S3 lol, but since kernel source was released too, we now have a source built kernel for CM9 & we're about to be official, this is definitely the best time to own a E4GT!
Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch using Tapatalk 2

[Q] Chance to buy a EVO LTE for cheap, should I?

Hey guys, I've got the opportunity to buy a basically new EVO 4G LTE from a friend for $150.
Are you still happy with your phones?
I've got a Touch Pro 2 right now and am getting tired of it, I think it's time for an upgrade, LOL!
I would really like to get the One or S4, but don't have the funds for either of them just yet, still a student. :crying:
I can't do any savings with contracts on new phones either because I am planning to BYOSD over to Ting.
Yeah definitely should this phone has some great development and is very smooth and powerful. It will do anything you need and it has one of the best screens around. Enjoy it you want regret it.
I'd go for it, especially if you're not on a carrier that subsidizes...that's a good price. I haven't seen any pricing for the One but it will easily be upwards of $600 retail and it's not enough of an upgrade over the evo (imo)...this is a solid phone. Most people will be waiting for the next round of phones, which gives you plenty of time to save up for one You will be more than happy with your evo until then.
Sent from my EVO LTE
nice phone
but call quality is really bad sometimes. they can't hear me or hard to hear me.
thats what i pd also couple months ago.
trsix said:
but call quality is really bad sometimes. they can't hear me or hard to hear me.
thats what i pd also couple months ago.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no call quality issues with mine.
...
KHoff said:
I have no call quality issues with mine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not everyone does but i've searched and some others do so u never know
No issues with mine...it's a great phone that I think could last the normal user an extended period of time. Unfortunately for my gadgets, I have an uncontrollable desire to have the latest and the greatest so the One will soon (hopefully) be replacing my Evo LTE.
Maybe I'll pass it on to my gf to replace her sgs2 e4gt
compared to the touch pro 2, the evo lte will seem like the best phone ever made even if it has a bunch of issues. I paid 200 for a used one about 2 months ago and it's been totally worth it. the camera is amazing at how quickly it snaps pics.
I have had my evo LTE since launch day May 2 I think it was and have not has ANY problems with it.. This phone is great You will always find someone thats says they have problems with this or that but it like that with any phone out there.. Get this phone u will love it!! screen's nice.. battery lasts all day for me.. Its hella fast.. Smash's the galaxy s3 in benchmarks!! Camera is good.. Build quality is super good.. Feels solid in hand.. I would jump all over that deal
Wow, you definitely should!! I had the Touch Pro 2 also, but that was many years ago, and many devices since then! You'll love the Evo LTE, especially compared to the outdated TP2!!!
Sent from my White Evo LTE running MeanBean, using XDA Premium
Thanks for all the advice guys. I ended up getting the phone for $120, pretty good deal I think, for minty condition.
The kickstand was a little loose, so I used the paperclip trick on the small little bolt. I hope that it doesn't come loose again.
I was thinking about putting a dab of Loctite or superglue on it?!?!
Now I just gotta find a slim case for it, I was thinking about Diztroic's TPU case.
Get that case. I got it as soon as I got my phone and still use it. Enjoy your phone
Sent from my EVO using xda app-developers app
My call quality it perfect I've even called with noise around me nd they can still hear me. I think people with call quality issues are running aosp or they messed up their Mic since there's been a few people that messed up their mics already
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
my only complaint is the speaker..it's a joke. i blew my speaker the first month i had mine, and a replacement on ebay is ~$20. oh well finally cracked my screen (it's got a really strong screen! but i am abusive) and to replace that is only $35, cheaper than an otterbox lol. i just wish i could put an iphone speaker in it, but i'm not willing to be the first

Categories

Resources