How do you test multiple android platforms/versions? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm contemplating the idea of developing an application for the android. I have several years of experience developing web applications with Java and so figured it shouldn't be too hard to pickup a book and learn how to do it for the android platform. So far so good; that's why I love Java.
My question is in regards to how does the android development community go about testing their applications of the various android version and phones? I think I'm more concerned about the android version rather than the phones. I'm planning on getting the Sprint Evo 4G LTE coming out on Friday, so I'm obviously going to be able to develop and test for Android 4 and HTC Sense 4 (though I don't think that is as important right? Development is usually against the OS and not the UI manager, right?). But how would I go about testing against Gingerbread, Froyo, etc.? Do you guys keep a previous old phone (like my old HTC Evo 4G) and flash diferent roms in order to test the app against previous versions of android? Are there other solutions? If it's using an old phone, does this work off-network/service? I guess you could just dump the apk on the sd card and install as third party app and test it out. As long as the app doing require phone services or mobile data network (internet) you'd be fine if you have wifi access right?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Eric

Provide it first to people with different phone as a closed beta,providing u with bugs and log cats.When the bugs are ironed out then release it?
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The Android emulator is slow indeed, but does the job well
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@bartoloandre98
Indeed that is an option I had considered though it would serve more in a beta testing capacity. I should of defined in my question that I was looking for an option in testing for myself, such as would be the case during alpha testing.
@cdesai
I'll give it a try; haven't done so yet. I'm assuming that you can tell the emulator which API level and/or android os level to target? And is the assumption that device testing is always better than software phone emulator better true in this case as well?

There is a couple of companies who do the testing on multiple devices and send you results but it might not be cost effective for smaller operations. Id say closed betas are the best solution

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htc hero sprint running windows mobile??

it is possible? my htc hero can runn windows mobile??
smokeeboy said:
it is possible? my htc hero can runn windows mobile??
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No you can not.
Why would you?
"There's so many ways for me to say this to you - Never, Not in a million years, absolutely not, no way hose, no chance Lance, net, negatorie, mm, nah, aa, and of course my own personal favorite of all time - man falling of of a cliff, Nooooooooouuuuu...!"
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in french: NON lol
Jose...........
It's Jose.
*Slaps forehead*
That's what you get for copying quotes off facebook pages, peeps.
wow y would u even want to run windows mobile... I had a tmobile wing once - - - dont get me started on that phone lol.
lol im sry but even if i knew how i wouldnt tell ya cause its stupid idea.
why would you want windows mobile on your phone, well for decent media play back i.e films that you don't need to convert before you put on the phone, I've got both a android and windows phone, and personally I find the experience better on android, but converting films is a drag.
I don't see why you want to downgrade your phone
knowledge is power
I don't think this is such a bad idea actually it's kind of good for us having someone asking this...IS NOT ABOUT DOWNGRADING your beloved hero it's about the challenge it would be to do it and the KNOWLEDGE we would get by doing so...
Currently a lot of our great developers at XDA are focused on bringing android to our WM phones and they have done a great job so far using only reverse engineering methods, patience and a certainly huge amount of cups of coffee...so how about seeing things from a different angle? just imagine the possibilities if we can make WM work in an originally Android designed phone ,i bet you if someone dares to do it,not only the android porting project will benefit from this but several other open source mobile platforms that are already here[Maemo] and others to come [MeeGo], They all have one purpose bringing the end user a better and richer mobile experience which is the same reason i believe this forum was created for so...
Why not giving it a try?
up
up up up
sorry
android is a open source OS
windows mobile is not
so you can change android kernel to run on other device
windows mobile nope
I love android for this
I hate windows mobile for this
with a boot loader : you cant
and i know you don't want windows mobile on your brilliant android phone
hahaha
One time I saw a thread in the Rhodium forums where they were trying to find evidence of an Android user trying to port Windows Mobile to their phone. I didn't think it would ever happen...
Hmmm a challenge
Sounds like a great challenge, something to really upset the a few people who wander around bragging about they're "completed" operating systems (yeah right, 15 years as an IT Consultant and I've yet to hear Microsoft claim to complete anything).
Android is a PITA and not as flexible as I was told it would be - nowhere near as flexible as linux was meant to be - I wonder if its possible to go the rest of the way and compile a linux for our android phones that runs natively. Then we can really put windows phones to shame.
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I wonder if its possible to go the rest of the way and compile a linux for our android phones that runs natively.
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Well, of course it's possible, seeing how it's already been done. I don't know about your phone, but my CDMA Hero is most definitely running Linux natively.
So it's already running on a Linux kernel with a reasonable command line environment. It might be useful to compile a more complete set of GNU utilities for it.
Android is, in basic terms, just the GUI that's running on top of Linux. There are plenty of other GUIs designed for small devices with limited resources. Porting one of them over to run on top of the existing Linux environment shouldn't be too terribly tough.
The real trick, I would guess, would be getting all the hardware bits to work. Writing apps that can access the phone radio, gps, audio, etc.... All of those things are currently accessed through APIs that Android provides. If you remove Android, and those APIs, then there's a great deal of work to be done to make those things functional again.
So if you just want a handheld Linux box, that's easy. If you want all of the hardware features to work, and to still be able to use it as a phone, just with Android stripped out, then you've got a LOT of work ahead.
they have already ported android to win mobile it is possible to reverse see as win mobile does not have alot of anti piracy safeguards
wnathanball said:
they have already ported android to win mobile it is possible to reverse see as win mobile does not have alot of anti piracy safeguards
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???
Maybe if you wrote complete sentences with proper punctuation, this might parse.
well am with original poster on this I for one would love and prefer to see Winmo on my hero.... I find android such a dam pain.... I have both winmo(on my kaiser) and android... But only use droid for a toy and playing games. where as I much prefer my winmo for Work and navigation... At least with Winmo theres no reliance on flippin data, Which isa pain in the butt with droid..
So come on you tech Geeks show us what you are made of...Port Winmo to hero... let us have the choice...
WM On Hero.......
say what you will about Android Vs WM but I believe WM is just perfect for me. If hero could support WM then please someone anyone help me get it on mine. I loved the convenience of WM. On my Blackstone Sync was not a problem. I get all my emails and my contacts in the same place. With Android I have to sync via G-Mail. For being open source this is a huge price for me to pay. Now I have to change my email address and redirect all my clients to G-mail so I get all my mail.

[Q] Will Android Ever Add Up?

I have been an Android supporter for a long time. I'm currently on the Evo 3D. That said, I have a question I hope that someone could give me the answer to.
I know that there are many android phones and not all of them are geared to do the same things. However, when coming to the upper end phones, I am having trouble seeing why some features cannot become standard. For instance, why did the aspect ratio change between the Evo 4g and the Evo 3d? Why not just one to keep it simple? Things like this seem to me to only hold back developers without a real quantifiable reason that I can see.
Another issue that just came to mind is the CRT screen timeout. Wasn't this part of Gingerbread Android or was this related to a particular phone update only? If it was purely a Gingerbread update, why can't find it anywhere on the 3d? Will anything ever be an expected standard in Android?
I think the whole essence of android is adaptability, from the handset, the software, the user interface, the applications used...
Each android device is completely unique and customized to suit the user, and different company's may have different ideas on what different users want, and nudge them along the way.
I understand. I had thought about Android as been a haven for software developers, but I hadn't seen it as something for hardware developers also. I guess what I am seeking is an archive where the cool features across android as a whole can be searched and added to our own personal collections. The marketplace isn't an effective searching tool. Any other suggestions?
Cause Sense is a completely different ball game. When HTC compiles a version they'll leave out elements of the original Android version. The trade off is the Rosie Widgets and functions that some feel make android more "polished".
When you root, you options open up widely to allow for running ASOP roms.
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Help for a starting devoloper?

I have a dream of becoming a developer, I absolutely love computers, and I absolutely love phones, especially androids, Iphones suck. So if anyone can give me a short guide on what to start downloading, etc. in order to start developing and any guides to developing would be nice. I current have access to my LG optimus T, my friends HTC Desire, and a LG Optimus S. Yes i realize the Optimus S and the Optimus T are basically the same, but those are the phones I have access to, any help to get me started would be much appreciated.
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I have a dream of becoming a developer, I absolutely love computers, and I absolutely love phones, especially androids, Iphones suck. So if anyone can give me a short guide on what to start downloading, etc. in order to start developing and any guides to developing would be nice. I current have access to my LG optimus T, my friends HTC Desire, and a LG Optimus S. Yes i realize the Optimus S and the Optimus T are basically the same, but those are the phones I have access to, any help to get me started would be much appreciated.
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I think you can PM any one of the developers and ask them the details. They would surely help you.
firstly, learn about cooking a rom Its a really easy once you get the hang of it
have a same question in my mind!
but I am thinking about making one kernel not rom
because it's simple than making rom
I don't know any pro language
anyone here to help or learn us?
@ DeBiasoMan If someday it's possible I will also help you
DeBiasoMan said:
I have a dream of becoming a developer, I absolutely love computers, and I absolutely love phones, especially androids, Iphones suck. So if anyone can give me a short guide on what to start downloading, etc. in order to start developing and any guides to developing would be nice. I current have access to my LG optimus T, my friends HTC Desire, and a LG Optimus S. Yes i realize the Optimus S and the Optimus T are basically the same, but those are the phones I have access to, any help to get me started would be much appreciated.
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just don't be a troll with that 'iphone suck'.
Apple's phone in the 4 version is a good device.
My brother has one, got for a cheap price here in Brazil. (R$ 500,00 something like $200,00)
Using the system we can see how apple approach is on the minimum details level and Android isnt that cos we have too much fragmentation. (Btw, samsung have a very good android mod on Galaxy SII, gratz Samsung!)
So, i like android, i'm not going to try buy a iPhone, but hey, that thing has his merits, until 2007 we all are stuck with phones like blackberry or nokia, no touchscreen devices Thank you apple, AGAIN, PC+Phones. (but i never had a **** from you )
About development, good luck, i dont know how to build a custom rom yet
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just don't be a troll with that 'iphone suck'.
Apple's phone in the 4 version is a good device.
My brother has one, got for a cheap price here in Brazil. (R$ 500,00 something like $200,00)
Using the system we can see how apple approach is on the minimum details level and Android isnt that cos we have too much fragmentation. (Btw, samsung have a very good android mod on Galaxy SII, gratz Samsung!)
So, i like android, i'm not going to try buy a iPhone, but hey, that thing has his merits, until 2007 we all are stuck with phones like blackberry or nokia, no touchscreen devices Thank you apple, AGAIN, PC+Phones. (but i never had a **** from you )
About development, good luck, i dont know how to build a custom rom yet
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Lol, i had a custom rom but only dunno how to change framework till now...
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aspee said:
have a same question in my mind!
but I am thinking about making one kernel not rom
because it's simple than making rom
I don't know any pro language
anyone here to help or learn us?
@ DeBiasoMan If someday it's possible I will also help you
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Kernels are harder to make IMO
Well... I'm myself embarking on this trip of developing Android apps (I'm a Software Engineer but I have not touched a line of code in a few years), and I can give you a couple of suggestions about it.
The good thing about Android apps development is that is totally free to start since the two main tools that you'll use are completely free: The Android SDK and Eclipse IDE. Tools-wise those are the only two things that you'll need initially (beside a fairly decent computer of course).
If you can spend a few bucks I've found that the book "Learning Android" is pretty good, with a good level of detail on the inner workings of the Android OS and a hands-on project throughout the whole book (and Android Twitter Client). The book is fairly recent (March 2011) so it covers Android Gingerbread, unfortunately the only issue with the book is that the Twitter client project was created before Twitter switched their authentication api from simple login to oAuth (a token based authentication API very popular nowadays), so the code on the book will not work right out of the box without some modifications on the authentication module. There's a new Andorid development book from the same publisher (O'reilly) available on Amazon called "Programming Android" which was released earlier this month, so I would guess that whatever the project is on that new one it should work right out of the box.
If you wanna get the hang of it without spending a buck you can start with a great tutorial series on Android development available on Youtube here: "TheNewBoston Android Tutorials". The tutorials cover Android development in much of the same way as most books, starting from scratch on installing and configuring the Android SDK and Eclipse to basic development and some advanced topics.
I must say that compared to the things that I was developing when I was still coding a few years ago (Java Enterprise Apps) Android development seems pretty much straight-forward, and I think that what really matters is changing the paradigm to "Mobile Apps", since they behave pretty much differently than normal enterprise apps.
Hope that helps.
Thank you so much, I used to do some Java coding for games so I know alot about Java, but ill check out all those things you all offered. Thanks! Oh and the iPhone thing, they're a good phone, but I can't afford one and prefer android.
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DeBiasoMan said:
Thank you so much, I used to do some Java coding for games so I know alot about Java, but ill check out all those things you all offered. Thanks! Oh and the iPhone thing, they're a good phone, but I can't afford one and prefer android.
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Wishing you all the best for your DEV efforts. As for the iPhone, those who can afford it are fans of it. The others, choose Android
Does anyone know a developer who is friendly enough to help me walk through this?
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Does anyone know a developer who is friendly enough to help me walk through this?
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DeBiasoMan said:
Does anyone know a developer who is friendly enough to help me walk through this?
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I think the first thing you should and really most important thing to do is pick ONE problem and try and fix it. Maybe this is "I don't like that battery icon" or maybe it is something like "I want my kernel to swap out less and keep more data in RAM so it's a bit speedier".
Unfortunately there is so much going on in Android that probably no single developer can walk you through all of it, not even Linus Torvalds or Larry Page (like we say "We all stand on the shoulders of giants"). If you are new to Linux in general (which Android is) and you want to do some kernel work, a good first step is to start dual-booting Ubuntu or another friendly Linux distribution.
I am some experience with linux in computers, ps3's, even an experimental build me and a few others devoloped for an xbox which turned out unsuccessful. I just honestly dont know where to start to apply what I know to android phones.
here's a slightly dated but pretty good howto on Android kernel building
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-hero-rooting-roms-hacks/8072-how-build-your-own-kernel-package-source.html
lots of stuff comes up on google's pages about building Android
http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
have fun!

Confused, can I get some help?

So...I just got an Android ~5 days ago. My friend told me to root the phone and get plain Android on it instead of HTC's bloated modified version of it. I'm not a newbie to SSH and managing linux via prompt (I assume rooting the phone is what that means?..) Anyway, I have no clue what I'm doing. I've been an iPhone user for...~2 years. I'm completely new to Android.
Can anyone start me on the right path, maybe give me some explanations as to what I'm actually doing? Does this void my warranty with Best Buy (probably...jailbreaking the iPhone does, but recovering from that is easy-peezy..)
I'd like to tinker with my phone, but it seems so much more complicated to fix the phone if I make an oops than doing so with an iPhone does.
Thanks in advance.
Assuming you have the DNA, as that is the section you are in, there is quite a few helpful threads already. Check the sticky posts, they usually link to helpful threads.
With the speed of the quad core phones, debloating isn't needed as much as before, but rooting does have it's ups and downs.
I found that AOSP (pure android) based roms compared to sense (HTC software) are a little mote buggy and not as fluid. They feel snappier, but really aren't.
Try some sense based roms before going full aosp on this device. Take it from me. My old devices, I would run only AOSP, but after usi.g sense 5 on this phone, it has so.e good HTC only features.
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I'll echo Uzephi, give sense a try first. If you really want to tinker make sure to make a nandroid in recovery. You will probably need to use either moonshine or rum runner to do what's called s-off your phone first. That will also root it. I've found the easiest way to do that is to boot to a live USB Linux, then you don't have to deal with driver issues. If you have windows 8 or 8.1 64 bit there have been fastboot issues with drivers seeing the phone for some users, myself included. Give us some more info on what your PC set up and phone OS versions are and we can help some more when and if you want. Have you gotten the latest OTAs.
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My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Android 4.2 is the base operating system and HTC customized it to their liking, which they call Sense, and you have version 5 of Sense.
jake6177 said:
...I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Android phone manufacturers like to give their phones a specific look and feel, which is why android phones can look so different. This modification/augmentation of the base android software environment is commonly referred to as a UI (user interface), or Skin.
The term 'skin' is a terrible over-simplification, but it gets the point across. The vanilla Android software environment is, for many, quite boring, and not as powerful as it can be. Companies like HTC and Samsung incorporate cool animations, graphics, and sounds effects, as well as software that takes advantage of their camera's capabilities.
HTC's UI is called Sense
Samsung's is called TouchWiz Motorola's used to be called Blur (don't know if it still is)
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If you're brand new to Android, I would just use the phone as it is now without rooting or putting a custom ROM on it. Once you're comfortable and familiar with Android then you can decided if you want to root and rom.
jake6177 said:
My PC is a Windows 7 Ult and my Phone is HTC Droid DNA (Android v4.2.2 and Sense v5)
Thanks guys for the replies. I have no clue what this Android jargon is mostly, can I get some clarification or where I can read about it? Thanks a bunch.
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Rooting is akin to jailbreak, gaining control of your phone. You can root your phone (get root directory access) and still remain completely stock for your Rom.
I personally have had the best experience with sense based roms. Your experience may differ depending on what you use.
If you want to use mobile hotspot on your phone without paying subscription then rooting is a must.
Linux used to be a must to root. Now there are windows based options, I used moonshine.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay extra to use your phone as a mobile hotspot if you're on a capped data plan. I think only unlimited data folks are expected to pay extra to use that feature.
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That might be right. I've got the unlimited data. My co workers with company phones also have to pay for the hot spot.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you don't have to pay extra to use your phone as a mobile hotspot if you're on a capped data plan. I think only unlimited data folks are expected to pay extra to use that feature.
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That might be right. I've got the unlimited data. My co workers with company phones also have to pay for the hot spot.
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Yes, correct, capped data is forbidden by law to charge for mobile hotspot, unlimited data is chargeable.
Edit* At OP, Sense is the king flavor of android, stick unrooted for a while as you won't really see a need for it yet, unless you want to go and throw on different ROM's and try them out, which in that case def. go and try viperDNA (best sense ROM avail.) AOSP/CM based ROM's are still a WIP and are ok to use but you will miss out on everything sense (sense apps, widgets, features, and even some hardware features)
Gaining root is becoming the sys admin of the phone, you would be able to read/write to the system partition of the phone and execute system privileged commands that are more for the hacker/modder/enthusiast (not normal user, you really wouldn't find a use for that type of stuff, the only app that would serve you good is "Titanium Backup" that does require root but it basically backs up all of the apps and their data)

Note 3 + Ubuntu Touch

I am currently in the process of building a Note 3 Rom of Ubuntu Touch. I have the experience with Ubuntu and Linux Development to do this, but I would like non-monetary support, like volunteers to find bugs. I'm using a rom based off of stock, minus KNOX (here) so it should work fine.... but that's never a guarantee. I will be testing this ROM myself, but I want to find every bug possible.
If any developers would like to get some addons in here, pm me. I would like to make this as useful as possible.
When CM11 100% functional source code is released, I will rebuild this off of it. I do want to include the best I can into this.
This will be based off of MJE, so, if there could be a person or two to hold back from updating, and trying this out, I would owe you sooo many cookies. I mean, MOUNTAINS of cookies. This voucher is redeemable, alternatively, for a lake of Caramel or an Ice Cream Storm.
***EDIT***
The Cyan text is invalid. Upon rereading sources, it will not matter what rom I use.
*******POSTPONEMENT********
This project will be postponed until the completion of the CM11 Note 3 source code.
I would love to help test!
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I would love to help test!
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please don't take offence, but have you played with custom roms before?
I would definitely test on a tmobile note 3 and I definitely have experience
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ktetreault14 said:
I would definitely test on a tmobile note 3 and I definitely have experience
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Thank you! Would you mind listing some Ubuntu apps you would like to have included in it? I will already include a couple for testing purposes, but I want to make this enjoyable and useful, after testing
As long as you throw in the basic stuff. All I need is a browser, file manager, music player. You can pick. Im just ready to test
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Also will this be the dualbootable android and ubuntu touch buikd?
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As long as you throw in the basic stuff. All I need is a browser, file manager, music player. You can pick. Im just ready to test
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well, unfortunately, I can't build it yet, unless you don't mind not having root. I know where to download the stock source code, but I found out that root access would not be a given, even with as little Ubuntu takes from Android. Not to mention, it's a lot easier with the CyanogenMod source.
I will make sure to get all the extended basics. Notepad++, Terminal, basic utilities, media utilities, a file manager, and others. I'll put an app of my own for feedback purposes. Ubuntu Touch is supposed to have the Play Store, so, if I miss something you want, no problem.
I think, when I have my first completely stable build, I'll move on to building a developer's build, including support for programming environments. Imagine being able to build an app on your phone, without a computer. A bluetooth keyboard would be necessary, but I think many would be interested.
If anyone can build an app, I have an idea for the way the interface designer would work. PM me.
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Thank you for asking. That sparked the thought on how to re-package this for distribution. Before, I was going to have everyone adb it into their phone, as per the documentation that exists for Ubuntu Touch. However, it would be easy to just zip it all, then transfer and install. To adb it is to just make sure it's clean, but I can make sure that it happens clean via certain adjustments.
I'll test out even though it doesn't have root. Nice to know I can use play store. Even with cyanogenmod code there is no root? Cant wait to test
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ktetreault14 said:
I'll test out even though it doesn't have root. Nice to know I can use play store. Even with cyanogenmod code there is no root? Cant wait to test
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I'll go ahead and start building it then. I was thinking that there would be not-so-much interest in a non-rooted version. As far as using the CM code, that would give root and the most ease of building. Using Stock gives a guaranteed driver support, however, I am not too sure if KNOX is integrated into the parts that Ubuntu would take from the code. I'll have to research it a bit. I won't bother if KNOX will be pulled in too.
Do you need the source for cm11. I there is a link for it in the tmo thread
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Do you need the source for cm11. I there is a link for it in the tmo thread
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No need, and it wouldn't work anyways. All CM11 source is currently not 100% stable, therefore, I don't know if it will work properly with Ubuntu. I'm grabbing the source directly from Samsung.
Oh I see. Will this build be able to switch between android and ubuntu, or was that only for Nexus?
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Imagine being able to build an app on your phone, without a computer. A bluetooth keyboard would be necessary, but I think many would be interested.
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We can build applications with AIDE, but it is pay-ware with a disabled free version. I'm anxiously waiting for someone to build an equivalent freeware application.
There has been a bluetooth virtual keyboard out for a few years.
This won't require a developer's phone will it?
Frank
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Frank Westlake said:
We can build applications with AIDE, but it is pay-ware with a disabled free version. I'm anxiously waiting for someone to build an equivalent freeware application.
There has been a bluetooth virtual keyboard out for a few years.
This won't require a developer's phone will it?
Frank
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No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
mobile-power-monger said:
No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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Would it be too much to ask to make 1 build of old and new and then continue building on whichever you see like to more? Just to try it out, lol if its to much dont bother
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Please share this link with your friends with other devices
I think it would be smarter to do one version at a time
Also, here is the Ubuntu App Directory
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
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Ubuntu Touch Dying???
I had checked the Ubuntu Touch repo a while ago, but it seems to not be much larger..... we need to bring it back. Maybe we could turn Ubuntu into a Powerhouse Platform, by creating Ubuntu apps that utilize the power of the Note 3.
N3 has the power to run a sql server and apache, if it's only for a small network. Imagine, being able to make a site for your your friends only, and being able to manage it like a full server, however, you'd have no fees (unless you want a domain, but even then, there are free domains).
Going on this idea, if a sql db is on a mobile device, there is less risk and more ability to control access (ie. turn on airplane mode to disable it)
The N3 could be used as a file distribution spot. You could have an automatic broadcasting of a particular file. All newer galaxy phones could just access it from the wifi direct menu. What an easier way to hand out flyers?
We need to think of ways to utilize the power of the N3 and the simplicity of the Ubuntu Touch SDK. A dump trucks can carry a lot of feathers.
I, personally, dislike using C++ for app development (Thank GOD for Java), but I will do it for this project.
I need more ideas, but please take time to make a list, instead of 1/post
mobile-power-monger said:
No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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Eerrrmm... I'm a 100% sure that Ubuntu touch uses the cm kernel. That's why you need a Developer edition device. It's the only one that can flash kernels So if the following statement is true. Then this can't run the 99% of the Verizon note 3s correct?
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mobile-power-monger said:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Please share this link with your friends with other devices
I think it would be smarter to do one version at a time
Also, here is the Ubuntu App Directory
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
---- I just made this account, so I have limited posting ability :/
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Awesome. Im ready to start flashing, im gonna start reading up on my ubuntu touch and check it out. Also does abyone knkw if im in ubuntu touch and I hook up hdmi out to my tv does it go into desktop mode? Or is that onky with a dock
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I had checked the Ubuntu Touch repo a while ago, but it seems to not be much larger..... we need to bring it back.
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I read (on Android Central, I think) that Ubuntu Touch development was being suspended for all devices, except Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 (original). Maybe that's why......

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