Hello all.
im having a small question or comment.
I was just thinking if it isnt easyer to split the android development forum into GB roms and ICS roms.
why i figured this?
well since i am using GB roms untill they make ics better than what it is right now.
i am always searching for the GB roms in the forum.
often its hard to see what type of rom it will be. since not all devs write in the title what rom it is.
its just an idear to make searching for the perfect rom somewhat easyer.
thats the only comment i can think of making here so lol.
that must show how good this forum allready is
grtz
innomi said:
Hello all.
im having a small question or comment.
I was just thinking if it isnt easyer to split the android development forum into GB roms and ICS roms.
why i figured this?
well since i am using GB roms untill they make ics better than what it is right now.
i am always searching for the GB roms in the forum.
often its hard to see what type of rom it will be. since not all devs write in the title what rom it is.
its just an idear to make searching for the perfect rom somewhat easyer.
thats the only comment i can think of making here so lol.
that must show how good this forum allready is
grtz
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You are about
noob number fifty with exact same post .
Answer is NO . Two reasons one GB roms will start to die off now and the other reason if you cannot work out what's what then you should not be flashing roms .
Even a brief check of the roms posted and its hard not to see all the ICS in the rom header .
jje
I am also on GB.
I find no difficulty at all in navigating between GB and ICS posts, and have no idea what your problem might be, except sheer laziness. Read.
This is a forum for the SGS2 - a phone.
It is not a software forum.
No need to use gb roms bcause ics is stable right now just try some of ics based roms
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this forum doesnt need any more messing about with. If anything it needs tidying up. WHy we have original, android and android i9100G ill never know.
If it needs changing we should get rid of those and it should just be
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Themes
Seriously?
Just instantly calling me a noob Just for asking a question?
Yeah i agree that most of them have ics or gb in the header.
I was Just contributing to make it easyer to navigate True the roms. Since around 10-20 % does not have gb or ics in header.
And its surtainly not because i am lazy. Its Just more easy to search for a rom.
But hey its Just a comment from me. A simple no + reason is good enough for me. No need for calling someone a noob and saying hè should not flash etc.
And btw.
Gb dying off? 63% of Android users still use gb.
As gb is still superiour over ics in stability speed battery easyness etc. There are so many People Who dont wanna switch to ics.
And for comment on why i should use ics.
I use gb simply cause its still far more stable and far more battery friendly.
On the Day that ics Will give me more bat then gb and has all the bugs out of it. i Will switch to ics.
Peace.
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innomi said:
Seriously?
Just instantly calling me a noob Just for asking a question?
Yeah i agree that most of them have ics or gb in the header.
I was Just contributing to make it easyer to navigate True the roms. Since around 10-20 % does not have gb or ics in header.
And its surtainly not because i am lazy. Its Just more easy to search for a rom.
But hey its Just a comment from me. A simple no + reason is good enough for me. No need for calling someone a noob and saying hè should not flash etc.
And btw.
Gb dying off? 63% of Android users still use gb.
As gb is still superiour over ics in stability speed battery easyness etc. There are so many People Who dont wanna switch to ics.
And for comment on why i should use ics.
I use gb simply cause its still far more stable and far more battery friendly.
On the Day that ics Will give me more bat then gb and has all the bugs out of it. i Will switch to ics.
Peace.
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Seems like you havent tried out ICS for a while then. I havent had single force close or problem with any ICS roms here. If I had a problem, it had to do with the app not being optimized for ICS instead of the rom. I havent seen any wide spread problem with ICS roms.
More battery? underclock and undervolt and I get around 2-3 days with moderate usage. I dont get any more even when I was on GB.
This is not the general android section of xda, but the i9100 section. If you havent checked, most i9100 have gotten ICS making the percentage you provided rather useless.
Rather than make yet *another* thread about this, why not ask moderators if they're keen to do what you've asked ? Hint: they're not. The question has been asked a couple of dozen times over the past 6 mths, the answer has always been a well reasoned no.
innomi said:
Seriously?
Just instantly calling me a noob Just for asking a question?
Nope for not searching first makes you a noob and rule breaker .
jje
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skimminstones said:
this forum doesnt need any more messing about with. If anything it needs tidying up. WHy we have original, android and android i9100G ill never know.
If it needs changing we should get rid of those and it should just be
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Themes
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+1
It would be easier to find what we are looking for
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Seems like you havent tried out ICS for a while then. I havent had single force close or problem with any ICS roms here. If I had a problem, it had to do with the app not being optimized for ICS instead of the rom. I havent seen any wide spread problem with ICS roms.
More battery? underclock and undervolt and I get around 2-3 days with moderate usage. I dont get any more even when I was on GB.
This is not the general android section of xda, but the i9100 section. If you havent checked, most i9100 have gotten ICS making the percentage you provided rather useless.
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Yup.
I have lately
I do flash alot on my Phones.
And i even test ics next to gb (2 Samsung galaxy s2 Phones here)
Last week i tried 8 ics roms.
But direct compared to gb roms they lag.
The schroling speed of gb is much faster.
The time it takes to start up a game is in gb much faster.
Ive had both of ics and gb jnderclocked in almost same setting for as far as possible. And ics is Just draining!
Ofcourse dif roms give dif results.
But none of the ics is as stable or quick or battery friendly as my gb rom now.
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Ok guys, as has been mentioned, the Administrators have been presented with this idea a while back and they have not acted on it. So, at this point, probably not going to happen, especially with GB on its way out.
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I browsed through the development section and there is SO MUCH STUFF THERE. :/
Even if I read it all I would still not really get a good answer to my question:
What are the most popular, consistently maintained and stable ROM's out there that aren't heavily themed (I like AOSP or close, not MIUI)?
I've used CyanogenMod on my Nexus but it's still in experimental phase for SG2 and I don't really want to start off my new uberphone with broken stuff.
So far from what I've gathered is that Villainrom is at least consistently maintained, but their website is almost devoid of any information in regards to looks and features.
Batista70(?) also sounds like a relatively popular choice?
I realize this sounds like a completely idiotic question from someone that's too lazy to read, but honestly to answer this question you can't just read for a few hours, you need to have been around the community for a longer time to get the feel of everything.
bjarnia said:
I browsed through the development section and there is SO MUCH STUFF THERE. :/
Even if I read it all I would still not really get a good answer to my question:
What are the most popular, consistently maintained and stable ROM's out there that aren't heavily themed (I like AOSP or close, not MIUI)?
I've used CyanogenMod on my Nexus but it's still in experimental phase for SG2 and I don't really want to start off my new uberphone with broken stuff.
So far from what I've gathered is that Villainrom is at least consistently maintained, but their website is almost devoid of any information in regards to looks and features.
Batista70(?) also sounds like a relatively popular choice?
I realize this sounds like a completely idiotic question from someone that's too lazy to read, but honestly to answer this question you can't just read for a few hours, you need to have been around the community for a longer time to get the feel of everything.
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You are correct if you want an honest opinion look yourself try them their are a billion users asking the same question with the same answer their is no best rom .
Why not start with the simplest rom that you understand what's on it and how to flash it .
Then work your way through others .
jje
Atm, i think the best roms (no one over the other, they all good the same)
Batista70 Foxhoud 2.0
Villainrom 3.0
Leomar 2.7
those are the roms i personally tested, and looks like also the most "used" by the community.
Im sorry if i didnt listed someone else rom, it's only because i didnt tested personally.
All the 3 are KI3 (2.3.5) based, so they may have few bugs/instability since 2.3.5 is less than 1 week old.
For the KH3 (2.3.4) every rom is very stable and works fine, i personally tested:
Cognition 1.5.1
Lite'ning 6.1
Checkrom v3
If you want a not perfect (few bugs) but totally different rom, i suggest you to try gangsterjoop Miui 1.9.23 or Galnet Miui 1.9.23
rembrandtlnx said:
those are the roms i personally tested, and looks like also the most "used" by the community.
Im sorry if i didnt listed someone else rom, it's only because i didnt tested personally.
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I know my english sux sorry
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I know my english sux sorry
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That was actually more a roll of the eyes to this type of question. It gets answers like yours (no offence meant) where people just tell you what they use. Not many people have done extensive testing of every single available ROM, but people still keep asking these lame questions.
Also 'best' is very personal, unless one gives certain criteria.
I agree I'm new here and the selection is daunting. I've HAD,
HTC Tattoo
HTC Desire
ZTE Blade
Moto Defy
HTC HD2
Sony X10
This phones section seems even bigger than the HD2 forum!
Ephumuris
the best rom out there with regarding battery life and looks is..................
the one that will suit your needs and that YOU have to find out and experiment buddy.
its all good for us to tell you which one is good but unless you dont try for yourself you wont know..
but if you want a choice i recommend VillainRom or Batista two that i use back and forth or even CheckRom
but whatever you do make sure you read through each roms thread and take it from there...happy flashing
Just rooted my SGS2 with this forums help after got fed up with Samsungs decision to delay even further ICS release for sim free owners. Flashed Pure 7.2 rom and am kinda happy with it. But would like to give a try other roms too. Pure seems to be so much better battery wise then stock. Google experience and most important no bloatware.
Am looking for a smooth and battery friendly rom. Am looking forward for a stable CyanogenMod 9 release but till now exploring the option.
Many thanks in advance ...
There si no such thing as the best rom. The best rom is the one that you prefer, take a look around the SII page and try a few. When you have gone through a few choose which you like and stick with that one
If you want a solid rom then go for checkrom which is gb and based on tw but there is no fully stable ics rom...wait for cm9 to get stable.
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actually there are a few roms that are quite stable... omega, litening as well as wanam are the ones i ve used so far.... although there is still a lot of improvement for these roms, if you wanna check out ics I think they are good enough to give them a try...
Posts like this are usually closed as best does not exist and the same question will be posted thousands of times in a year .
Try them all .
jje
thanks for your input
JJEgan said:
Posts like this are usually closed as best does not exist and the same question will be posted thousands of times in a year .
Try them all .
jje
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Thank you everyone who took their time to post here for me and maybe other interested. Firstly I do really understand that there is no such thing as best. And I really never meant to ask for a best rom. I just wanted advise on what would be at least worth to start to try. Which ones are better out there. I just started rooting as really got fed up with Samsungs delays and some really unnecessary for my liking apps included (like bbc iplayer etc)... There are so many roms that I would not really want trying all. Therefore seeking for advise for some better roms out there. And not in their experimental or so stage.
Thanks @frankimm but as you mentioned its not fully stable yet I will skip it on this occasion.
Thanks @pokkas88 I was actually considering lite'ning rom myself. Will check on omega.
My first flash was and is Pure ICS v7.2. It is nice and stable. yesterday with my regular usage got more then 24 out my regular usage. Where on stock 2.3.4 would last only half a day... But something is not right with contacts there. Was lagging when trying to organised and join contacts (google, facebook, skype...) and phone app seems laging a bit too. therefore a bit annoying. otherwise solid and stable rom....
Still hope to hear more opinions...
forgot
forgot to mentioned. Roms with better support from other developers would be probably priority. What I mean the roms that get dedicated addons as I undestadand addons are compatible only with certain roms. And would not really want to get creative in trying to force addons whilst am still learning here...
I highly recommend Hydrog3n rom - I've upgraded to this from Check ROM, prior to finding this I tried several other ICS AOKP to find stability issues, I have to say this is a fantastic rom and cannot recommend you try it enough.
Failing this, Check ROM was great; I had issues with it rebooting or not reconnecting to my mobile network if I lost signal, and ultimately I wanted to do away with Stock so I went for an AOKP rom.
Omega is my fav especially black blue theme
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My hones opinion and just in the process of deleting ICS rom number twelve . Non are up to scratch and ICS is not as good as 2.3.6 .
jje
I recommend "Resurrection ics remix" by westcrip. it is really stable. And soon he will publish 4.0.4 AOKP. just give him a try
Just try them all until you like one, there is no other way
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Hi,
I've met with Galaxy S2 after ICS released so I've never used GB roms. So far I've tried ParanoidDroid, D4ROM, Hydrog3n, Slim Rom, Litening Rom, Turkbey Rom and Resurrection Remix. I've fairly used them all and happy with Hydrog3n atm. My gf also bought S2 and complaining about battery life since I've never tried GB roms and don't have any technical knowladge to compare GB with ICS (I mean voltage and stuff) I ask you gentleman to recommand a rom for me. It doesn't matter if it's stock ICS or stock GB or some custom rom. I just want to get best battery life out of Galaxy S2. Since I think custom roms remove most of the unnecesery apps and stuff from stock's it has to last longer and since ICS is newer and as far as I've read from posts that the voltage values on paper are lower then GB ICS has to last longer than GB but somehow ICS consumes more battery. I just upgraded her phone to ICS stock with Siyah Kernel with battery profile but she is complaining to me that it was better before I'm very confused and couldn't decide on what to do.
Is it better to not root at all or return back to GB ? I just want to maximize the battery life.
Thanks in advance
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25164221
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No rom. Because there are far too many variables which determine battery life to say conclusively "Such and such rom/kernel is teh awesomz battery life man !"
Battery life depends on how you have the phone setup and how you use it. Any tweaks you might have made to kernel settings, and so on. There is no simple path to getting the best battery life possible from your phone, there are no quick fixes. It's a matter of experimenting with your phone setup & trying different roms/kernels until you find one that's good for you.
If that kind of thing doesn't enthuse you, as well as being in the wrong place, you might as well stick to stock tbh.
With all this in mind, IAmFrk was quite right to refer you to the forum policy of not asking for rom/kernel recommendations. There have been hundreds of these threads in the past, you should do a search & see what people recommended in those rather than start another thread.
No no you guys understood my q wrong. I'm asking if GB is better in terms of battery than ICS and not rooting the phone is a better option than rooting or not. I'm not asking any roms or kernels since I don't need any recommendation on that for myself since I've been trying diffrent roms and kernels in that matter. I just want technical information for the stuff as I mentioned above not rom or kernel. The difference between GB and ICS, stock phone and rooted phone. Does rooting a good thing or not ofc I've read tweak battery life related posts before asking mine but couldn't find any info comparing my needs.
And I'm asking this since I upgraded her phone and didn't do anything else she is using the same settings as she did in GB but her battery lasts less. That's why I'm questioning the GB and ICS, with the same settings which one will last longer ?
But it isn't as simple as 'GB is better in terms of battery than ICS'.
Some people on here (who help a lot of people in Q&A and whose opinions I really respect a lot) say GB is better, ICS is buggy & they've had crap battery life from the roms they've tried. For me, I get the best battery life I've ever had with CM9. Why ? Because I've put in the time/effort to tweak my setup to make it that way. My point is if you ask 100 people on XDA that question, you'll get different answers to the question depending on the person.
So far as rooting/not rooting concerned, again, nothing to do with battery life per se. What rooting does is give you control over your phone, and can (it can also enable you to make your battery life/phone performance a whole lot worse) enable you to run kernels (and tweak those kernels), and enable you to set your phone up to possibly give you better battery life .
Given it's your GF's phone & I presume you want it to work well 100% of the time with no glitches (because you'll probably end up playing tech support, which from experience I know is a pain in the arse), leave it on stock.
On the other hand if you like a challenge, I've given you plenty to think about in my two posts. Every bit of info you could possibly need to tweak your phone is on XDA. It's just a matter of searching, reading, learning & then using that info to make a setup that gives you what you want.
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No no you guys understood my q wrong. I'm asking if GB is better in terms of battery than ICS and not rooting the phone is a better option than rooting or not. I'm not asking any roms or kernels since I don't need any recommendation on that for myself since I've been trying diffrent roms and kernels in that matter. I just want technical information for the stuff as I mentioned above not rom or kernel. The difference between GB and ICS, stock phone and rooted phone. Does rooting a good thing or not ofc I've read tweak battery life related posts before asking mine but couldn't find any info comparing my needs.
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But it isn't as simple as 'GB is better in terms of battery than ICS'.
Some people on here (who help a lot of people in Q&A and whose opinions I really respect a lot) say GB is better, ICS is buggy & they've had crap battery life from the roms they've tried. For me, I get the best battery life I've ever had with CM9. Why ? Because I've put in the time/effort to tweak my setup to make it that way. My point is if you ask 100 people on XDA that question, you'll get different answers to the question depending on the person.
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I totally agree with you I'm very happy with my rom also coz I'm tweaking kernel and also manually disabling stuff by myself but It's not possible for me to do that to my gf coz I'll have to act as tech support and I'm always checking if there is anything on wake while the screen is off and act accordingly to it, I can't do this on her phone.
So as you mentioned I'm not asking this formyself nor asking a rom reccomendetion but as you said I think I'm gonna install stock GB and do the necessary settings for her and leave it.
Thanks for your replies much appreciated.
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Best ROM is the one that works best for you. There are too many variables. Try a few out and make your own decision.
Seen this from time to time, but with the in between phase of ICS and GB (people starting to really get more into ICS, or realize that they just still love GB too much), I figured I'd start up a new thread about it. What's everyone using to date for their daily driver, or everyday rom?
Please state whether it's ICS or GB, and what do you think of the whole ICS vs. GB situation? Is ICS working for you, and you're loving it? ICS works but you just miss GB too much? Always hated ICS, so still on GB? Post your opinions below.
Ics, and aokp been that way since task started his thread months ago. Touch response is a non issue for me
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Cherokee?
Please state whether it's ICS or GB
ICS AOKP + Fluxi
what do you think of the whole ICS vs. GB situation?
Dont really care people will choose what they like in the end
Is ICS working for you, and you're loving it?
Yup and Yup
ICS works but you just miss GB too much?
Nope, I went back thinking it was better and lasted 30 minutes before I restored back to ICS
Always hated ICS, so still on GB?
Dont know why I left this question here but Nope always loved ICS since day one it has been on my phone. This will be the same for Jelly Bean too
ICS. AOKP and fluxi since I started my time at xda and haven't been happier. Too many features on ics and aokp to go back to gb
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Cherokee?
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Yea but in the States they call It the Liberty, They
are about as aerodynamic as a brick (they suck gas)
Shostock 2. Runs awesome; and I definitely prefer ICS to GB; apex launcher is great!
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one.
Pointless Thread, we dont do these here.
Whats better, MacDonalds or Burger King, who cares, try them out, eat what you like
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Yea but in the States they call It the Liberty, They
are about as aerodynamic as a brick (they suck gas)
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I do believe they have the Cherokee and Liberty in the states
MotoMudder77 said:
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one.
Pointless Thread, we dont do these here.
Whats better, MacDonalds or Burger King, who cares, try them out, eat what you like
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Burger King, McDonalds Makes me sick.
Beans or No Beans in Chili now that is the question.
Please state whether it's ICS or GB
ICS ShiShir ROM with apex launcher
and what do you think of the whole ICS vs. GB situation?
Don't notice enough of a difference in "smoothness" to really care
Is ICS working for you, and you're loving it?
I love the chrome browser and ICS is working well enough for me to not revert back. First ROM i have tried so might give AOKP a shot.
Sorry, but i am going to kill this here.
As a matter of course, (because of previous issues), "Vs." threads are a no go on this board.
even more... i am sorry, but this thread will accomplish nothing but bickering (not yet) or useless comments (oh yeah, got those already). As it is, with so many roms, with enough time, you will get a sample of everyone using everything.
The best suggestion, is to read about the roms that interest you, and ask questions specific to that rom.
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Sorry, but i am going to kill this here.
As a matter of course, (because of previous issues), "Vs." threads are a no go on this board.
even more... i am sorry, but this thread will accomplish nothing but bickering (not yet) or useless comments (oh yeah, got those already). As it is, with so many roms, with enough time, you will get a sample of everyone using everything.
The best suggestion, is to read about the roms that interest you, and ask questions specific to that rom.
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...be honest. You just dont want the trolls to come out and play.
Well sure.. i was just trying to be nice about it.
But the trolls were just itching to say something. I bet there was about 4 more who were about to hit the "send" button when you killed the thread. Oh the horror...
I'm not looking for any arguements but I'm just interested in why people are choosing ICS ROMS over Gingerbread?
I've tried various iterations of ICS and I find the performance so slow compared to GB, I actually "upgraded" for a couple of months but just decided to try a GB ROM for ****s and giggles and I don't know how I put up with ICS. Not matter how many scripts or tweaks are used it's not even in the same league as GB.
What do you use and why?
No need to make such thread, especially in general.
Reported. Moderators might close it soon.
Best Regards,
AJ
Reported? Sorry for causing you such offence..
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Not matter how many scripts or tweaks are used it's not even in the same league as GB.
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I'd say it is, when I first flashed ICS to my Arc I was actually quite surprised by how smooth it was, and after a few build.prop and init.d tweaks it was/is easily on par with CM9 (not tried CM10 yet), and it's the same on my Ray which is one of the reasons I went back to the stock ROM.
If your Phone is used as mainly, a Phone, ICS is perfect imo, the main reason I can gather some People want to use GB which looks and feels old, is for gaming, which isn't most Peoples priority.
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It's not an offense. Just a basic cleaning tool. Everybody like clean forum, right?
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