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About to purchase this phone. How do you guys like it? Is it a good quality device? About to get for one of my family members? Also is the bootloader unlocked? Lol thanks
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Bootloader is not unlocked. Those phones are not coming out till about Septemberish.
I love my Thunderbolt. No complaints.
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I've had about 12 phones in the last 2-3 years, and the Thunderbolt has been the best phone I've ever owned, development is nuts, not a single problem with it, great performance stock even better rooted/rom'd
I am a recent convert to the Thunderbolt, with a whopping three weeks of ownership.
I originally wanted to support the Sensation on TMobile. But, for various reasons, not the least being the AT&T merger which I suspect will happen (this reducing the quality of TMobile's service, IMHO) and price, I came over to the Thunderbolt and verizon.
Previously I had the Samsung Captivate on AT&T and Evo on Sprint.
It was the commitment and speed of the independent developer community that won me over. The hardware is pretty decent. LTE speeds are extremely impressive when in optimal coverage. Battery is getting better after tweaking the ROM, startup applications and services and usage patterns.
I am definitely happy with it at this time, and upcoming Gingerbread will be very interesting.
Of course, it seems like the Thunderbolt is already being treated as "dated" and something newer and "better" is always around the corner. I would guess that we'll see the $49 price point for new contract in the not too distant future.
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Bootloader is not unlocked. Those phones are not coming out till about Septemberish.
I love my Thunderbolt. No complaints.
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It is unlocked...assuming one has the common sense and patience needed to unlock it through the tutorial stickied in the developer's forum (or one can ask detailed questions that don't involve people having to play 20 questions to help the said person). However, it is not unlocked out of the box or through official channels.
My experience only.
I came over because of an accidental drowning of my Incredible. Honestly, I didn't stay with the Inc2 because I knew we had 4g here and I wanted the speed. I also like HTC phones. I also thought the Bolt would be better.Truth is though, after flashing all the ROMS, I still miss my incredible.
The bolt is a good phone. However, I use my phone for business and reliability is key for me. This phone has been nowhere as reliable as my inc. Random reboots before root and the battery issues since rooting. If it weren't for the Development Community for the Bolt, I would have traded back in for something else. I realize there are plenty of things I could do different to get more battery, but I like 4g, sense 3 elements and GB. I'm stuck with it until Feb. 1, so I will make do until then.
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Ok so it is unlocked or you can unlock it. Is htc sending out an ota update to unlock the bootloader? I think they are doing it for the sensation sometime mid august. But if you can follow a tutorial and do it yourself. Thats not so bad i guess. Sounds like its a great phone according to all you guys. Was looking at the droid 3 just because it has dual core. But the over all screen and build quality of thunderbolt is so much better im sure. Plus its android
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Ok so it is unlocked or you can unlock it. Is htc sending out an ota update to unlock the bootloader? I think they are doing it for the sensation sometime mid august. But if you can follow a tutorial and do it yourself. Thats not so bad i guess. Sounds like its a great phone according to all you guys. Was looking at the droid 3 just because it has dual core. But the over all screen and build quality of thunderbolt is so much better im sure. Plus its android
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The bootloader does NOT ship unlocked. If you want to root your bolt, the goto the Devs section and follow jcase's tutorial. It's the first sticky.
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The bootloader does NOT ship unlocked. If you want to root your bolt, the goto the Devs section and follow jcase's tutorial. It's the first sticky.
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That wasn't what the ??? was about. I believe it was about saying "Plus its android"
since both are android phones, heh.
I've been very happy with the Thunderbolt. The first few days on Android with the phone stock I was extremely disappointed with the battery life. So I went to Verizon and ordered the extended battery. I got home from the Verizon store and started playing with my settings. The next day I thought something was wrong with my battery meter because it was lasting so long but nope, battery life really had improved that much.
One of the biggest things I see among people new to the Thunderbolt is the same problem that I had. I was running 4G enabled and there is no 4G in my area yet. It was eating battery searching for a signal that didn't exist. I typed a few numbers into the dialer and it toggled 4G off, that alone doubled battery life.
The developer support is amazing, there is so much going on right now and the full capabilities of this phone have not even been let off the leash. I was new to Android and I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone before the sim card arrived that Verizon had to mail. It was completely painless.
Someone more familiar with Verizon will have to let you know about what competition is coming in the next six months and if you should wait for it. With what's available right now, I'd definitely choose the Thunderbolt again.
The Tbolt has its quirks, just like any other phone. The battery life isn't the best, but I think the whole issue has been overhyped. You can expect 8-10 hours with the stock rom & battery with 4G always on and typical usage. You can double that time with a custom rom & kernel. You get even more time with the extended battery. I have really enjoyed my Tbolt and I wouldn't trade it for anything except maybe the SGS2 (only if it gets LTE)
Yeah the guy at the verizon store said my family member should get an iphone4 cause the battery life sucks on tbolt. But whatever so what you buy an extended battery. No biggy. Guy at verizon an apple fan. Lol. Trying to make my family members one of the sheep. F_ck apple!!!!!!
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After being a long time BlackBerry owner, for the better part of a decade. I switched to the Motorola Pro, to have Android and a physical keyboard, and then a month later while adding a line for my wife, I saw the thunderbolt. Having already used my upgrade, I purchased it at full retail price.
Even with paying a little shy of $600 for this phone, I don't regret it one bit. The only complaint I had was the battery life. After rooting, flashing decent ROMS/kernels, and choosing the right settings, battery life has improved signifigantly. And 4G LTE is the best hands down in my opinion. Plus its nice to be able to talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time, which iPhone can't do on Verizon's 3G.
I'd just get the tbolt if I were you. If you don't like it, you have 30 days to exchange it for a different phone.
**Sent from my Ziggy powered Thunderbolt, INFECTED by Synergy, the only Virus that doesn't need a cure!**
Thanks for all the help
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This thread strikes me as being similar to walking into the Corvette museum and asking the guys bumming around in there if the like their cars. I've got 3 gripes. First, I have yet to run a ROM on this thing that didn't have some annoying quirk I just had to live with, the LTE coverage and technology still seems to have some kinks that need ironing out, and for whatever reason my digitizer has come loose on the bottom left side and it clicks when I tap the screen sometimes. I'm thinking super glue if it keeps annoying me. The Samsung Charge is the only other one I'd consider, buy no where near the custom development for it.
I'm considering getting an Amaze 4G from Wind Canada this week and I just had a few questions:
Bootloader - I don't intend to root or install ROMs on it for quite some time (I've already done my fair share of rooting on my current phone). I do however, want the option to be able to root and install ROMs on the phone for whenever HTC abandons the Amaze 4G (hopefully not for a good while) and I want to update it myself. While a locked bootloader probably doesn't mean no custom ROMs, based on my experience with my current locked bootloader phone - it makes things harder.
I've seen reports that the Wind version has a locked bootloader. I've also seen mixed statements about the ability to unlock it. Is it or is it not possible?
General opinions - What has your experience been with the HTC Amaze 4g? Would you recommend it? Why and why not? I'd just like to be aware of any shortcomings this phone has as well as users general feeling about it and anything else I should know.
Thanks for the help!
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I'm considering getting an Amaze 4G from Wind Canada this week and I just had a few questions:
Bootloader - I don't intend to root or install ROMs on it for quite some time (I've already done my fair share of rooting on my current phone). I do however, want the option to be able to root and install ROMs on the phone for whenever HTC abandons the Amaze 4G (hopefully not for a good while) and I want to update it myself. While a locked bootloader probably doesn't mean no custom ROMs, based on my experience with my current locked bootloader phone - it makes things harder.
I've seen reports that the Wind version has a locked bootloader. I've also seen mixed statements about the ability to unlock it. Is it or is it not possible?
General opinions - What has your experience been with the HTC Amaze 4g? Would you recommend it? Why and why not? I'd just like to be aware of any shortcomings this phone has as well as users general feeling about it and anything else I should know.
Thanks for the help!
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It is possible to unlock the bootloader but it seems hit or miss with Telus and Wind users.
It's a solid built device with incredible specs. But it does have some minor flaws.
The screen bleed is my #1 pet peeve.
Issues with wifi and bluetooth have also been reported.
The battery is much better than any other device that I've encountered.
I can go about a full day with moderate use before having to charge my device.
Results may vary depending on individual conditions.
Camera is great quality, but audio for video camera sucks! It seems to have some kind of high pitch feedback or squeel to it. Hard to explain.
I don't care with the method to access the microsd card. You must remove the battery cover to remove it. Some phones don't require this. But not all phones have the antenna in the battery cover either. It's intimidating to me at least to be removing the battery cover over and over again just to remove/replace the sdcard. Maybe if I somehow mess up the antenna HTC will send me a new one?
That's all that I can think of. I like to think that I'm unbiased but actually I'm quite bitter toward HTC because of their reaction to the open source kernel that isn't fully open. They openly refused to release the wifi drivers and we can't easily update the kernel. So this so called "developer friendly" device is anything but. That being said... we probably won't be seeing much development for this device until HTC changes their attitude.
On WIND here and unlocked my bootloader yesterday it works fine.
not sure about BT, but probably the same cause as the wifi problems.
CASES cause the signal for wifi to drop significantly. I'm using a TPU case and wifi sucks balls. But once i remove it, BAM~! strong signals. I would like to add that my wifi signal on my amaze is stronger then the gs2 that i used for a couple days before giving it to my sister. However, gs2 connects faster like... 2 secs faster lol
I actually wrote a review on the Amaze and I included a video. I will post the link to it. If it is not allowed, mods please remove it.
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I actually wrote a review on the Amaze and I included a video. I will post the link to it. If it is not allowed, mods please remove it.
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How about I add the Youtube video instead? That's allowed.
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How about I add the Youtube video instead? That's allowed.
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If that's allowed, then it works with me. Thanks.
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I really like this phone, much better industrial design than the Samsung. I've rooted it and am using Crackeyes latest ROM which is very clean and stable, everything seems to work. Battery life is much better than my last phone (HD2) and I ponied up and got the Anker battery & charger which seems to last about 30-40% longer than the stock. I have noticed that certain apps will drain the battery very quickly, I put on a loan calc app and overnight it sucked the battery dry, about 40% worth.
My only beef is with the wifi calling feature & I'm not sure if this is phone or tmo related but there is lots of latency and artifacts when using this. You can tell the person on the other end is struggling to decipher what I'm saying, it's kind of like the old satellite phones where you talk and there is a half second delay so you end up talking over the other person.
Other than that it's got great ID, rock solid performance, a great camera, screen, no wifi issues that I can tell, it's all good.
syrenz said:
I'm considering getting an Amaze 4G from Wind Canada this week and I just had a few questions:
Bootloader - I don't intend to root or install ROMs on it for quite some time (I've already done my fair share of rooting on my current phone). I do however, want the option to be able to root and install ROMs on the phone for whenever HTC abandons the Amaze 4G (hopefully not for a good while) and I want to update it myself. While a locked bootloader probably doesn't mean no custom ROMs, based on my experience with my current locked bootloader phone - it makes things harder.
I've seen reports that the Wind version has a locked bootloader. I've also seen mixed statements about the ability to unlock it. Is it or is it not possible?
General opinions - What has your experience been with the HTC Amaze 4g? Would you recommend it? Why and why not? I'd just like to be aware of any shortcomings this phone has as well as users general feeling about it and anything else I should know.
Thanks for the help!
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I picked up the HTC Amaze 4G from Wind Mobile today, and I've got to say, coming from a Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000, I was very impressed.
Back in my SGS, I was a custom ROM enthusiast and tried almost every ROM that XDA had to offer for that handset. I found myself using CM7 and MIUI the most on the SGS, so I was diving into this HTC Amaze 4G knowing that I wouldn't have the same selection of custom ROMs.
The bootloader at htcdev should work for Wind and Mobilicity now (pretty sure they recently updated). Within hours of bringing this phone home, I unlocked the bootloader, installed CWM, and flashed a bunch of ROMs and I must say, even though the selection is not as great as the SGS, the work being done here at XDA for the HTC Amaze 4G is spectacular.
This phone is very smooth. However, I found that my Samsung Galaxy S was able to achieve smoother scrolling through the homepages (it ran on MIUI and had scripts to optimize performance and RAM management) than the HTC Amaze 4G on stock Sense UI (probably due to all the widgets and the scrolling animation). Once I flashed the BeastROM with the AOSP look, everything was as smooth as butter right off the bat.
The build quality is unlike any other Android I've seen, and while it may weigh more than other phones in this tier (Samsung Galaxy S II for example), it feels like a very solid and premium product when you hold it in your hand - this means that it'll probably be less prone to drops, but when they do drop, expect dents and cracks. Also, one thing I love about this phone is the notification LED, which can be set to flash on certain alerts, etc.
While the screen may not be as vibrant and colourful as Samsung's Super AMOLED Plus, the Super LCD screen is still very beautiful and holds its own. The camera is one of the best I've seen on a mobile phone.
I've only had this device for about 5 hours (stock HTC) and a little less than that circling through the custom ROMs, but I can already assure you that this handset is no slouch. The screen bleed from the backlit soft buttons will annoy some users, but it's something that doesn't bother me much.
I picked up this handset from Wind Mobile for $99 on the $29 monthly plan with unlimited talk, text, and data, and it's awesome.
Can more of you guys confirm crappy voice quality while doing video, and the 'death grip' issue like on Sensation? I'm coming from sensation and wondering if it's worthwhile to switch; and Amaze seems to have the same problems. Camera would be amaze's best asset - would you say?
Just got this and am loving so far. One question - is it just me or does the Wind version not have the same camera app as the other versions (the T-mobile)? It looks like the old HTC camera app and I don't see any of those fancy settings that I've seen in video reviews for this. Quality is amazing though...
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Can more of you guys confirm crappy voice quality while doing video, and the 'death grip' issue like on Sensation? I'm coming from sensation and wondering if it's worthwhile to switch; and Amaze seems to have the same problems. Camera would be amaze's best asset - would you say?
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I haven't experienced the death grip issue on either the Sensation or the Amaze. The sound on video is almost like a feedback noise (at least that what it sounds like to me) However, I still have my Sensation and I love them both. I really love the build quality and weight of this phone and the camera takes such nice pictures. I couldn't be happier.
Definitely NOT being sent from my HTC Amaze4G until Christmas Day.....Okay it is
The amaze is an excellent build, the weight of it makes it feel solid, snappy quick, the camera is excellent, actually has replaced my digital, and has a beautiful screen . . . Coming from the hd2 this thing rock, had to replace one cause I borked the USB port but neither one has had the creak some have, and both have had screen bleed but it's so light it's barely noticeable.
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Also in true HTC fashion they used different screens, my first had the same display as my second but didn't have gorilla glass and scratched real easy, my second has gorilla glass or something like it cause it's nearly impossible to scratch
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My only beef is with the wifi calling feature & I'm not sure if this is phone or tmo related but there is lots of latency and artifacts when using this. You can tell the person on the other end is struggling to decipher what I'm saying, it's kind of like the old satellite phones where you talk and there is a half second delay so you end up talking over the other person.
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I've used WiFi calling from my home WLAN since the device update and it's worked great. Have you tried on other WiFi networks? Also, mine is still unrooted with stock ROM (obviously), and I've heard that because HTC hasn't released the WiFi drivers there may be some WiFi issues with aftermarket ROMs. Have you tried with the stock ROM?
In every other sense though, I agree. This is a phenomenal piece of hardware, and I really like the camera (much of it I'm sure due to the camera app...lots of fun toys!). Unfortunately mine is on "loan" from T-Mobile, so I'm not ready to root or play with it yet. I can only imagine how amazingly this phone would run on something like CM9. *drool*
Since I don't have enough posts here yet, can't post a link, but I've reviewed the phone on mytwistedbrain_DOT_com if you're interested.
Im coming from the HTC evo from sprint. Im on my way over to Verizon. Im interested in both the Rezound and the nexus...
Is there a reason to choose the REzound over the nexus? It doesnt seem like the Rezound has full root/s-off etc etc right? Is it a matter of time, or do they have this thing locked down?
Rezound have radio lock thats all
Rezound is faster and has alotttt stronger signal. Basically, HTC owns samsung
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I was all about the nexus but after being burned so often by buying and trying to justify my purchase waited and was about to buy a rezound till I got it as a replacement and its awesome. I love this phone so far. Great camera, It's really quick, screen is amazing and its the perfect size
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I came from the EVO as well. It was this or nexus, I chose this for the better camera and beats, which I can't go without now. Plus the free headphones. Only selling point of the nexus is ics but a senseless Rom gives a close experience which should get better in time. Plus sense 3.6 is cool and miui is in progress as well as sense 4.0
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Came from Evo 4G on Sprint as well. Went through 2 Nexus's before giving up and getting the Rezound. Signal and call quality on the Nexus was horrendous. I would hear about every third word the caller was saying which made for some pretty interesting conversations.
The ONLY advantage to the Nexus is the ease of "tweaking" it but I un-locked, flashed a recovery, and flashed a rooted ICS Rom on my Rezound in about 10 minutes.
Get the Rezound ... NO BRAINER
IMHO
Edit: BTW ... The return rate of the Nexus is upwards of 20% according to my Verizon Rep. She told me she wished they would pull it off the market.
I came on over from the Evo 3d and I love the Rezound and coverage so much I've yet to root it. This phone has almost cured my flashism. Though I'm on vacation this week, I might get in on the rooting and madness on this side of town soon.
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Thanks guys.. Im hesistant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.
Rezound vs GNex
I poured over this decision back in December. I opted for the rezound because it has an sd card slot and the GNex doesn't. The camera and processor are also superior. I have mine OC's to 1.8 GHz. It is saddled with s-on though. HTC allows users to unlock the bootloader but we cannot flash radios and kernels directly via recovery. It must be done in the bootloader or via fastboot. Not the end of the world but not as easy as an s-off device. This nut seems to be a tough one to crack too. A few devs have been at it since December but no joy
Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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What do you mean by that?
editeD: lolwut I got it now haha fail.
Look, I'm not expert by any means, but I feel I need to chime in. I have owned both phones. The Nexus was probably the sweetest phone I thought I ever had.. Everything seemed to work flawlessly. After a few days I constantly had problems with the Battery, Signal strength and SOUND. Let me explain. ICS was awesome IMO. It worked great and was a really nice change. But that was the only thing that was nice on it. The roms that are coming out now for the Rezound by far make this the best phone I've ever owned. Speed, picture, ICS and I personally like Sense. SO for me to give anyone advice it would easily be GO REZOUND!!
BTW.. Ask this question in the Nexus forum, and I guarantee you'll get a different response. So basically, you need to go in the store, and give yourself 20 minutes to mess around with both phones. Just keep in mind that Samsung has a reputation as having terrible radios. Be sure to listen to the sound on both. And take a look at the resolution and clarity.. A few youtube videos should do it for ya! ALSO, the fact that you get a nice set of ear phones.
I just got the rezound last week and love it. I'm coming from a sensation 4g this is a lot better phone than that is. Plus now we have an ics leak that your phone doesn't have to be rooted is sweet. And when the official ota drops you can still update
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Don't think. Just buy a rezound.
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I faced the same decision, and I went for the Rezound. The camera, reception, and overall build quality of this phone is better than that of the Nexus. I really don't like Sense, and that almost made me go for the Nexus, but software is upgradable and hardware isn't. I'm currently running a senseless ROM (XTreme's), which isn't AOSP, but it's close. It seems like there is being progress with ROMs completely lacking sense (MIUI is being worked on and apparently has RIL in-tact), and once CM9 gets its RIL issues fixed, my phone will feel complete. Even without that, I am very happy with this phone. The screen is amazing, even when compared to a Samsung device (Nexus). The battery life isn't great, but it is an LTE device... I never get signal drops, and I'm always on 4G.
okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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Not much. It makes it more difficult to flash kernels, but it is still relatively easy using adb or just your phone. You can't flash radios (well at least without being relocked), which I think is the major downside of s-off. Also, unlocking through the HTCDev method won't let you go back to complete factory stock (without the bootloader saying relocked), so if Verizon happened to check, they can see that you MAY have voided PARTS of your warranty (not a big deal).
hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
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hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
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It's really not that bad. Choose the phone you want to go with, but don't let that sway you too much. We may not have as many developers and ROMs as the Nexus, but we have some really great devs. And flashing ROMs and kernels really doesn't take noticeably longer without s-off, and becomes second nature
If you want stock ICS go Nexus.
If you want better screen, eventual Sense ICS (AOSP probably won't be possible until we can get s-off I think), and removable SD card go Rezound.
I've been a stock Android fan since the original Droid, but I've really grown to like Sense and Sense 4.0 looks even better. I do want an eventual AOSP.
I have an AT&T HTC One arriving shortly as a new customer on AT&T. I understand I have 14 days to try it out, so I want to make sure I put it to a full test. This will be my first HTC device since the Windows Mobile days, so I have a few questions to ask before starting to use my phone. I am not entirely for sure, but I will probably end up rooting and using custom roms, but probably not until the 14 days are over. With that in mind, here are my questions:
1) Should I unlock the bootloader right away? I understand that doing so erases everything on my phone, but it should not cause any problems if I decide to return the phone, right?
2) If I decide to root after the 14 days are up, I do not have to wipe the phone again, do I?
3) If I decide to use a custom rom, do I understand correctly that I will indeed have to wipe the phone again (but not the /sd card contents???) Meaning, my pictures/videos and all that will remain, but I will have to wipe the system?
4) My area does not yet have LTE (coming later this summer), so is there a way for me to turn it off to save on battery, or do I even need to attempt this?
5) I've been using an iPhone 5 since launch and it is still scratch-free without using a case. I'd prefer not to use a case with the One as well, and I only have my phone in my pocket. Is it reasonable to expect that my One will hold up as well as the iPhone 5 in this area?
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions,
Travis
1.yes,but it will show tampered in the bootloader but att employees don't usually check so as long as you flash the ruu before you return you should be fine
2.yes, you do because unlocking the bootloader causes the phone to wipe
3.yes, it is recommended to wipe only system and data but not your sdcard
4.if you don't have it in your area then you don't even need to mess with it
5.yes, because I've been using my phone for a while now with no case and everything looks fine but sometimes I do put my case on when I'm clummsy.
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1.yes,but it will show tampered in the bootloader but att employees don't usually check so as long as you flash the ruu before you return you should be fine
2.yes, you do because unlocking the bootloader causes the phone to wipe
3.yes, it is recommended to wipe only system and data but not your sdcard
4.if you don't have it in your area then you don't even need to mess with it
5.yes, because I've been using my phone for a while now with no case and everything looks fine but sometimes I do put my case on when I'm clummsy.
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Regarding #2, are you saying that if I am already bootloader unlocked and then decide to root at a later time, I *will* have to completely wipe the phone again? Or is it just the initial bootloader unlock that requires the full wipe?
i seriously doubt you will be returning this phone before the 14 days. especially if your coming from the iphone 5. this is the only phone that rivals the build quality of iphones. i have had mine since the release for tmobile and not one scratch on it. my girl has the iphone 5 and imo it cant touch this phone.
if apple and android had a baby it would be the htc one.
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Regarding #2, are you saying that if I am already bootloader unlocked and then decide to root at a later time, I *will* have to completely wipe the phone again? Or is it just the initial bootloader unlock that requires the full wipe?
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No just the initial bootloader unlock unless you decide to change Roms
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if apple and android had a baby it would be the htc one.
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Well that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I go back and forth between iOS and Android on a yearly basis, it seems. I've had the iPhone 5 since launch on Verizon, and I just returned the Samsung GS4 because it was very laggy and was locking up at least once per day. I'm going to try the HTC One on AT&T (even though the One has just been confirmed for Verizon later this summer) because I am tired of Verizon's policies. I'm tired of them taking longer than anyone else to get phones. I'm tired of their "customizations" like the persistent WIFI notification on the GS4 that no other carrier has. I'm tired of their locked bootloaders and locked down CDMA network. I'm sure AT&T will have its share of frustrations, but LTE is coming in my area this summer and I'm looking to try something different. I'm keeping my Verizon line for now since I have unlimited data on it, but I'm thinking the 5GB plan on AT&T will be more than enough (and I get a 25% discount through my employer).
Thanks for the help, guys.
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Well that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I go back and forth between iOS and Android on a yearly basis, it seems. I've had the iPhone 5 since launch on Verizon, and I just returned the Samsung GS4 because it was very laggy and was locking up at least once per day. I'm going to try the HTC One on AT&T (even though the One has just been confirmed for Verizon later this summer) because I am tired of Verizon's policies. I'm tired of them taking longer than anyone else to get phones. I'm tired of their "customizations" like the persistent WIFI notification on the GS4 that no other carrier has. I'm tired of their locked bootloaders and locked down CDMA network. I'm sure AT&T will have its share of frustrations, but LTE is coming in my area this summer and I'm looking to try something different. I'm keeping my Verizon line for now since I have unlimited data on it, but I'm thinking the 5GB plan on AT&T will be more than enough (and I get a 25% discount through my employer).
Thanks for the help, guys.
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this phone doesnt lag. probably the closes thing to the smoothness of ios. and yea dont get that cdma garbage from verizon at&t,tmo or developer version is the way to go as far as custom rom options at least for now. if you want more in depth info check out mike1986. review of the phone. he has only done the first part of the review but he is a developer over on the international thread for this phone.
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this phone doesnt lag. probably the closes thing to the smoothness of ios. and yea dont get that cdma garbage from verizon at&t,tmo or developer version is the way to go as far as custom rom options at least for now. if you want more in depth info check out mike1986. review of the phone. he has only done the first part of the review but he is a developer over on the international thread for this phone.
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Thanks for the reassurance. The lag on the GS4 was unbearable and even worse than I expected given my previous experience with the GS3 a year ago. Even after turning off every S-feature I could find, enabling the developer options and changing the animations, and disabling as much bloatware as I could, the phone still lagged when scrolling and just felt unresponsive at times.
If I really like it, I don't know how long I'll hold onto my Unlimited Data plan on Verizon. On AT&T, I understand that unlimited data users are throttled after 5GB anyway, right? I think 5GB will be plenty, as I normally hover in the 3-4GB range on Verizon each month (and that's with a good deal of music streaming and Youtube watching). I guess if I go over once in a while, I can afford the $10 for an extra gig now and then.
My only concerns right now are battery life and the buttons. I've seen mixed reports on battery life - some saying it is abysmal, others saying it's actually very good. I'm keeping my expectations tempered as I've just been using two of the better phones in this area (iPhone 5 and GS4). I'm not expecting battery life to be as good as those, but if it can last my through my 8 hours of work (no WIFI there), then I'll be okay.
The buttons, I'm sure I'll get used to. But I'm definitely looking forward to the 4.2.2 update that allows for the long press of Home for Menu, right? Will this also give you the option to get rid of the Menu bar that appears below non-standard apps that don't conform to Google's specs?
For those who are still engaged with the conversation, I have a few more specific questions about customizing if you don't mind... Since this is my first HTC Android device, there are some terms and methods I am not familiar with. I've used the Galaxy Nexus and the GS3 in the past and was able to understand enough to unlock the bootloaders and install custom roms on those devices. However, when reading about the HTC One, there are some things I do not yet understand:
1) I understand that the AT&T, T-Mobile, and International versions are basically identical hardware-wise, right?
2) What is CID, Hboot, and RUU? I don't remember having to deal with any of those terms with the Nexus and GS3. All I understand about the HTC One so far is that I need to unlock the bootloader at HTC's website. I'm sure I can also follow the instructions to root the device. Installing recoveries and custom roms is where things start to get a little foggy for me with this device.
3) I'm probably going to want to stick with a stock rom of some type because I am actually looking forward to some of the HTC features (especially with the camera). If the "Android Experience" rom still has some of the custom software for the camera, etc, then I might be interested in that. Otherwise, I just want to be rooted at 4.2.2 with a debloated device running as smoothly and as stable as possible.
Thanks!
Travisimo said:
For those who are still engaged with the conversation, I have a few more specific questions about customizing if you don't mind... Since this is my first HTC Android device, there are some terms and methods I am not familiar with. I've used the Galaxy Nexus and the GS3 in the past and was able to understand enough to unlock the bootloaders and install custom roms on those devices. However, when reading about the HTC One, there are some things I do not yet understand:
1) I understand that the AT&T, T-Mobile, and International versions are basically identical hardware-wise, right?
2) What is CID, Hboot, and RUU? I don't remember having to deal with any of those terms with the Nexus and GS3. All I understand about the HTC One so far is that I need to unlock the bootloader at HTC's website. I'm sure I can also follow the instructions to root the device. Installing recoveries and custom roms is where things start to get a little foggy for me with this device.
3) I'm probably going to want to stick with a stock rom of some type because I am actually looking forward to some of the HTC features (especially with the camera). If the "Android Experience" rom still has some of the custom software for the camera, etc, then I might be interested in that. Otherwise, I just want to be rooted at 4.2.2 with a debloated device running as smoothly and as stable as possible.
Thanks!
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1- yes pretty much the same
2- cid is your phone id which tells you what ruu you need. ruu is the stock rom your phone came with. hboot you really dont need to worry about until we get s-off
3- all the custom sense roms include all the htc features so no worries there
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and btw with the battery life when i first got my htc one battery life was average at best but after a few battery cycles it improved.
first week probably averaged about 10-12 hrs with 6hrs on data with the rest wifi
second week 15-20 hrs with 6 hrs data
after that it pretty much leveled out and i average around 30 hrs 6 hrs on data and anywhere from 4-7 hrs screen time and all data is lte i dont turn data to 4g or 3g to save battery. so the first 7-10 days you might be cutting it close to get through the day on a single charge. a lot depends on signal strength though. i think most of those bad battery threads were from people who just got the phone and battery wasnt good at first. might also be because of stock rom. i flashed a custom sense rom the first day i got the phone
Ok, I got my HTC One today and so far I am loving it! However, I am disappointed to see that there is a persistent notification for "Power Saver". Argh, on the GS4 there was a persistent notification for WIFI (on Verizon), and now this one. What is it with these guys and their non-removable persistent notifications? I guess they think people are that stupid (and maybe most are on), but there should at least be an option to turn it off.
So from what I'm reading, the only thing I can do is to force close it each time, or to root my device and install a mod? Really?
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Ok, I got my HTC One today and so far I am loving it! However, I am disappointed to see that there is a persistent notification for "Power Saver". Argh, on the GS4 there was a persistent notification for WIFI (on Verizon), and now this one. What is it with these guys and their non-removable persistent notifications? I guess they think people are that stupid (and maybe most are on), but there should at least be an option to turn it off.
So from what I'm reading, the only thing I can do is to force close it each time, or to root my device and install a mod? Really?
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yea pretty much but not really an issue for me because i never intended to stay stock
oh and btw s-off has just been released in the international forum so you might want to keep an eye over there. with that you will be able to go back to complete stock without any trace of unlocking and rooting
hows the smoothness for you? i know your an iphone guy and i would like to hear your feedback
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yea pretty much but not really an issue for me because i never intended to stay stock
oh and btw s-off has just been released in the international forum so you might want to keep an eye over there. with that you will be able to go back to complete stock without any trace of unlocking and rooting
hows the smoothness for you? i know your an iphone guy and i would like to hear your feedback
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Yeah, I'm not too worried about the notification either because I will eventually root and rom... not for a while though.
I am in love with the design of the phone, to be an honest. I feel it tops my iPhone in almost every way in terms of hardware. The iPhone is still more smooth, but I think it's more a matter of Apple prioritizing the touch response and animations over everything else. The One is definitely more smooth than the GS4, though, and I noticed that right away. The Facebook app still stutters, but I think that's just Facebook's fault... it stutters if you scroll before everything has loaded.
I've set up Nova launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed (which I actually like). Disappointed that I can't use the HTC widgets in Nova, but I'm finding replacements. Charging the battery now (which I read takes longer than average), and tonight at work will be my first "real" test with the phone.
Thanks for replying.
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Yeah, I'm not too worried about the notification either because I will eventually root and rom... not for a while though.
I am in love with the design of the phone, to be an honest. I feel it tops my iPhone in almost every way in terms of hardware. The iPhone is still more smooth, but I think it's more a matter of Apple prioritizing the touch response and animations over everything else. The One is definitely more smooth than the GS4, though, and I noticed that right away. The Facebook app still stutters, but I think that's just Facebook's fault... it stutters if you scroll before everything has loaded.
I've set up Nova launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed (which I actually like). Disappointed that I can't use the HTC widgets in Nova, but I'm finding replacements. Charging the battery now (which I read takes longer than average), and tonight at work will be my first "real" test with the phone.
Thanks for replying.
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you can make another screen your home screen with sense launcher so you dont have blinkfeed in your face everytime you unlock the phone. and just so you know i just tried the s-off and it works on my tmo htc one. i successfully got s-off tampered removed and supercid. its confirmed working for at&t also
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you can make another screen your home screen with sense launcher so you dont have blinkfeed in your face everytime you unlock the phone. and just so you know i just tried the s-off and it works on my tmo htc one. i successfully got s-off tampered removed and supercid. its confirmed working for at&t also
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Yes, I figured out the Blinkfeed thing. Right now I am using Nova Launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed when I want to use it. The only thing bad about using Nova is that a bunch of the HTC widgets are not there anymore to use. Power toggles, Clocks/Weather, FM Radio widget, etc are all missing when using Nova Launcher. I understand that HTC widgets are only visible when using the Sense launcher? That's a bummer...
So explain again what the advantage of s-off is? Just so you can go back to completely stock if something goes wrong?
I think I will wait for this upcoming 4.2.2 OTA before deciding whether to unlock my bootloader and/or root. I'll take the time right now just to learn the phone and start reading all of the forums.
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Yes, I figured out the Blinkfeed thing. Right now I am using Nova Launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed when I want to use it. The only thing bad about using Nova is that a bunch of the HTC widgets are not there anymore to use. Power toggles, Clocks/Weather, FM Radio widget, etc are all missing when using Nova Launcher. I understand that HTC widgets are only visible when using the Sense launcher? That's a bummer...
So explain again what the advantage of s-off is? Just so you can go back to completely stock if something goes wrong?
I think I will wait for this upcoming 4.2.2 OTA before deciding whether to unlock my bootloader and/or root. I'll take the time right now just to learn the phone and start reading all of the forums.
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with s-off and supercid you can install the ruu/ota from any htc one variant except sprint/verizon. but you could use the international ota which is 4.2.2
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with s-off and supercid you can install the ruu/ota from any htc one variant except sprint/verizon. but you could use the international ota which is 4.2.2
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Ah, I see. With the AT&T OTA update rumored to be coming out in the next week or two, I think I'll just wait right now before jumping in.
Ironically, LTE just lit up in my area (Quad Cities, Davenport IA area) last night, so I was able to try that out as well!
So my first night at work with the new phone was very successful. Here are some things I noticed when comparing the One to my normal usage on the iPhone 5 with Verizon:
- LTE speeds on AT&T were comparable to Verizon at my workplace. However, AT&T had better penetration because my iPhone (and past LTE Android phones) would drop down to 3G deep inside the building, whereas AT&T stayed on LTE the whole time. In fact, I think the One has only dropped down to 4G (HSPA+) one or two times since I got it, whereas the Verizon phones constantly change between 3G and LTE.
- Battery life on the One was surprisingly good! My normal 8-hour shift consists mostly of playing Doggcatcher podcasts at 1.5 speed through Bluetooth headphones. I also use the phone on my breaks, along with a bit of Hotspot tethering for my iPad. With my iPhone 5, I'm normally at 40-50% battery life when I leave work, and the One was right about there as well. I would say that the One is very efficient when the screen is off, but a bit of a sucker when using the screen. That's to be expected, especially with that nice bright screen. Overall, I am very pleased and quite relieved to discover that I'll make it through a day of work no problem.
- The speakers are amazing! This is the first phone I can actually listen to music on without cringing. Having the speakers in the front of the phone is huge advantage as well. The iPhone 5 is no slouch in the audio department, but the One is noticeably better.
- I like the screen better on the One compared to the Galaxy S4. The latter has better blacks and contrast, but lacks color accuracy and is practically unviewable outdoors. I am definitely getting spoiled by these high DPI displays! The extra screen real estate on the One compared to the iPhone is liberating. Apple needs to release a larger screen iPhone now - not next year - because nobody who uses the larger 1080p screen is ever going to go back to the puny 4" screen again.
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Travisimo said:
Ah, I see. With the AT&T OTA update rumored to be coming out in the next week or two, I think I'll just wait right now before jumping in.
Ironically, LTE just lit up in my area (Quad Cities, Davenport IA area) last night, so I was able to try that out as well!
So my first night at work with the new phone was very successful. Here are some things I noticed when comparing the One to my normal usage on the iPhone 5 with Verizon:
- LTE speeds on AT&T were comparable to Verizon at my workplace. However, AT&T had better penetration because my iPhone (and past LTE Android phones) would drop down to 3G deep inside the building, whereas AT&T stayed on LTE the whole time. In fact, I think the One has only dropped down to 4G (HSPA+) one or two times since I got it, whereas the Verizon phones constantly change between 3G and LTE.
- Battery life on the One was surprisingly good! My normal 8-hour shift consists mostly of playing Doggcatcher podcasts at 1.5 speed through Bluetooth headphones. I also use the phone on my breaks, along with a bit of Hotspot tethering for my iPad. With my iPhone 5, I'm normally at 40-50% battery life when I leave work, and the One was right about there as well. I would say that the One is very efficient when the screen is off, but a bit of a sucker when using the screen. That's to be expected, especially with that nice bright screen. Overall, I am very pleased and quite relieved to discover that I'll make it through a day of work no problem.
- The speakers are amazing! This is the first phone I can actually listen to music on without cringing. Having the speakers in the front of the phone is huge advantage as well. The iPhone 5 is no slouch in the audio department, but the One is noticeably better.
- I like the screen better on the One compared to the Galaxy S4. The latter has better blacks and contrast, but lacks color accuracy and is practically unviewable outdoors. I am definitely getting spoiled by these high DPI displays! The extra screen real estate on the One compared to the iPhone is liberating. Apple needs to release a larger screen iPhone now - not next year - because nobody who uses the larger 1080p screen is ever going to go back to the puny 4" screen again.
More thoughts later...
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As you start reading up on the forums you may find the posts about how AT&T "fluffs" the signal. I am running the international trick droid ver 7.0.0 and it does have the same speed just the signal bar is not tweaked for simulated better signal. Also this rom has build options to remove the three dot menu as well as debloat and turn off power save notification. It runs like butter no laggs. I dont have or use FB so i cant speak for it. Keep us posted on how you like it.
sup, so I can swap my current htc sensation for the evo lte for a small fee, im short of cash so newer ones like the One or Note 3 are out of my possibilities for the moment and others either dont have microsd slot or have onscreen buttons (N4) or have amoled which I dislike (S3 Note 1/2) or are a step backwards in general. The evo lte is very tempting for me right now, awesome screen, microsd, ok performance considering im happy now with my senny and the evo is faster, capacitive buttons, and its actually cheaper than the One X, also im tired of the mediocre 3g gsm support in my country and i´ve heard very good things about cdma carriers here.
What I love about my current phone is the still active dev community, removable battery, how easy it was to unlock and s-off, perfect size not too big not too small, durablity (I have dropped it countless times, the metal back does help) .What I never liked was the so-so screen and meh performance until 4.2, the deathgrip and bad battery life.
I have some questions.
How easy is to properly s-off this phone?
How´s the dev support? I know this one has 4.3 and 4.4 already but how well do they work?
What are some pros and cons that are rarely discussed in your opinion?
Deathgrips or anything like that?
Any known bug bricks like some samsung phones?
Is it easy to unlock?
thanks in advance :good:
I've had four of this phone since its release. Great phone, fast for an everyday phone. I don't game or anything, so can't speak for that. I have a lot of apps and Viper for my rom, and my phone is not far from having all of it's memory used up. There are tricks of swapping the sd card for internal, etc. Easy phone to root and s-off. Get the Otterbox Commuter and enjoy the phone.
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I've been pretty happy with mine, but keep in mind that this phone is nearing end of life. We're supposed to get an official OTA with 4.3 and sense 5 in the next couple of months (January last I heard), but that will likely be the last.
Unlocking is pretty straight forward, but getting s-off somewhat depends on which hboot version you have. I believe there are currently methods for all versions, but that may change after the next OTA.
The dev scene is still kicking, so there are plenty of stable 4.3 roms out there already if you don't want to wait for the official. CM 11 (4.4) is in the works but not quite a daily driver yet from what I hear.
My only complaint is with the cell radio strength. I get pretty bad reception most of the time unless I'm in a big city...It's more a problem with Sprint in general but plenty of people have reported getting stronger signals on Samsung phones sitting right next to the evo lte.
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If your in a place that has poor Sprint signal I would avoid this phone imo.
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