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i want to know if its really lived up to the hype i think it looks nice but the battery is smaller than my fascinate and the thunderbolt is more of a resource hog and it seems thats everyone biggest complaint
I will keep mine...Root is coming...
keeping it, a phone is a phone, but root makes it MY phone...
i'm keeping mine. i upgraded from the original droid so this is a fantastic phone even-though the battery isn't great. still, i think it will be a matter of finding a balance or tweaks to get the battery running longer. plus, someone said root is coming and that will be followed by some roms which will make this awesome phone run better and more efficiently.
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if you haven't seen the development section, they accomplished root on the first night, and last night we were able to get past write protection which means custom recovery to flash custom roms and such. Instructions will be posted later today and a "one-click" root method will be posted in about a week or so...
k if only someone in the marketplace was willing to sell their thunderbolt i am so ready to get it and last question i already have unlimited data plans do i need to also sign up for 4g LTE data if there is no 4g in this area
I am coming from a samsung omnia which was a total piece of junk. I think this phone is amazing. Battery life is not so good but I am sure it will get better once I work with it a little more. I am sure I will have a go at rooting it once they get the process more simplified. I cant wait to get some of the bloat off the phone.
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k if only someone in the marketplace was willing to sell their thunderbolt i am so ready to get it and last question i already have unlimited data plans do i need to also sign up for 4g LTE data if there is no 4g in this area
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no, you do not6 need to sign up for a 4G plan if you currently have a unlimited 3G plan. I do not have 4G in my area yet either, was told I would be grandfathered in on the unlimited plan even after 4G rolls out nationwide.
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I am coming from a samsung omnia which was a total piece of junk. I think this phone is amazing. Battery life is not so good but I am sure it will get better once I work with it a little more. I am sure I will have a go at rooting it once they get the process more simplified. I cant wait to get some of the bloat off the phone.
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Haha same here, Blazingwolf's ROM made it much better but after he stopped developing for it I used lioryte's barebones ROM. Sad part is that the Thunderbolt out of the box had better battery life than my Omnia currently does and it was replaced a year ago.
Edit: And no I will not be selling it, I will wait 8mos or so and we'll see. But I think so far other than being short Skype Mobile it's doing what I hoped it would.
I have waited for this phone since aug 2010 .... almost left verizon for the evo even tried to unlock a evo for verizon . i'll be keeping this phone for a while . the only problem is the battery which i solved by getting the extended battery today ..
For me its been worth the wait, I've been running with RIM for the past 3 years and wanted to buy all of the early android phones, but this one fits me the best. I've become anti Moto sin the locked boot loaders and the comments from some of the big wigs of the company, but it looks like HTC wants to get into the locking business too. But definitely loving the Tbolt and rooted and running VirusROM at this time, but I've found myself to be a ROM-aholic so I may jump around.
I had been looking forward to getting a top of the line device for some time and i feel that ive found it with the t-bolt. Already rooted and beyond pleased. Looking forward to digging into it a little deeper
The battery is fine after using titanium backup to freeze all the htc crap in a stock rom, and I'm sure aosp will make things even better.
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I was tempted to take it back as you have a 30 day return policy. Coming from the Incredible I was definitely impressed with the 4g speeds. But with all the "Forced Close" errors, the larger-than-expected form factor, and the lousy battery life I was seriously contemplating sending it back but then I heard that Verizon is going to move to a tiered data plan for the LTE 4G so I thought it better to get a phone and get the unlimited plan now so that when they switch over, I'd be grandfathered in with the unlimited plan.
So I'm keeping it.
Coming from the Nexus S, in some respects, the Bolt is a step backwards for me. Don't get me wrong it's a great device and the speeds of LTE is fantastic. However, super amoled of the NS is much better IMO as is the chipset used (hummingbird). The TB feels quite sluggish in comparison. So in the end LTE just isn't enough for me to keep the device.
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I have waited for this phone since aug 2010 .... almost left verizon for the evo even tried to unlock a evo for verizon . i'll be keeping this phone for a while . the only problem is the battery which i solved by getting the extended battery today ..
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I have had 5 different android phones (X, D2, D1, D2G, DI) and ALL of them needed extra or extended batteries. Even with CM and Tasker.
I too Came from Fascinate And this thing Is alot smoother on browsing and Has Flash 10.2. The 3g speeds seem alot faster than Fascinate and 4g Blows it away. After dowloading an app to turn off 3g/4g Battery life Improves alot. Plus im liking how stock browser lets me switch to desktop only for Browsing and the bigger screen is cool too. not Missing Fascinate at all.
It's a huge upgrade from my Samsung Rogue (lol) so I'm loving mine, and hoping for an easy, relatively safe root before I do anything fancy
Not me ,I love this phone.It is just starting to get good here...
I just wonder how you can aquire a lte sim card cause my personal information is embedded on my sim so thats not going to be included when I sell the phone in 3 years
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About to purchase this phone. How do you guys like it? Is it a good quality device? About to get for one of my family members? Also is the bootloader unlocked? Lol thanks
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Bootloader is not unlocked. Those phones are not coming out till about Septemberish.
I love my Thunderbolt. No complaints.
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I've had about 12 phones in the last 2-3 years, and the Thunderbolt has been the best phone I've ever owned, development is nuts, not a single problem with it, great performance stock even better rooted/rom'd
I am a recent convert to the Thunderbolt, with a whopping three weeks of ownership.
I originally wanted to support the Sensation on TMobile. But, for various reasons, not the least being the AT&T merger which I suspect will happen (this reducing the quality of TMobile's service, IMHO) and price, I came over to the Thunderbolt and verizon.
Previously I had the Samsung Captivate on AT&T and Evo on Sprint.
It was the commitment and speed of the independent developer community that won me over. The hardware is pretty decent. LTE speeds are extremely impressive when in optimal coverage. Battery is getting better after tweaking the ROM, startup applications and services and usage patterns.
I am definitely happy with it at this time, and upcoming Gingerbread will be very interesting.
Of course, it seems like the Thunderbolt is already being treated as "dated" and something newer and "better" is always around the corner. I would guess that we'll see the $49 price point for new contract in the not too distant future.
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Bootloader is not unlocked. Those phones are not coming out till about Septemberish.
I love my Thunderbolt. No complaints.
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It is unlocked...assuming one has the common sense and patience needed to unlock it through the tutorial stickied in the developer's forum (or one can ask detailed questions that don't involve people having to play 20 questions to help the said person). However, it is not unlocked out of the box or through official channels.
My experience only.
I came over because of an accidental drowning of my Incredible. Honestly, I didn't stay with the Inc2 because I knew we had 4g here and I wanted the speed. I also like HTC phones. I also thought the Bolt would be better.Truth is though, after flashing all the ROMS, I still miss my incredible.
The bolt is a good phone. However, I use my phone for business and reliability is key for me. This phone has been nowhere as reliable as my inc. Random reboots before root and the battery issues since rooting. If it weren't for the Development Community for the Bolt, I would have traded back in for something else. I realize there are plenty of things I could do different to get more battery, but I like 4g, sense 3 elements and GB. I'm stuck with it until Feb. 1, so I will make do until then.
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Ok so it is unlocked or you can unlock it. Is htc sending out an ota update to unlock the bootloader? I think they are doing it for the sensation sometime mid august. But if you can follow a tutorial and do it yourself. Thats not so bad i guess. Sounds like its a great phone according to all you guys. Was looking at the droid 3 just because it has dual core. But the over all screen and build quality of thunderbolt is so much better im sure. Plus its android
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Ok so it is unlocked or you can unlock it. Is htc sending out an ota update to unlock the bootloader? I think they are doing it for the sensation sometime mid august. But if you can follow a tutorial and do it yourself. Thats not so bad i guess. Sounds like its a great phone according to all you guys. Was looking at the droid 3 just because it has dual core. But the over all screen and build quality of thunderbolt is so much better im sure. Plus its android
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The bootloader does NOT ship unlocked. If you want to root your bolt, the goto the Devs section and follow jcase's tutorial. It's the first sticky.
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The bootloader does NOT ship unlocked. If you want to root your bolt, the goto the Devs section and follow jcase's tutorial. It's the first sticky.
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That wasn't what the ??? was about. I believe it was about saying "Plus its android"
since both are android phones, heh.
I've been very happy with the Thunderbolt. The first few days on Android with the phone stock I was extremely disappointed with the battery life. So I went to Verizon and ordered the extended battery. I got home from the Verizon store and started playing with my settings. The next day I thought something was wrong with my battery meter because it was lasting so long but nope, battery life really had improved that much.
One of the biggest things I see among people new to the Thunderbolt is the same problem that I had. I was running 4G enabled and there is no 4G in my area yet. It was eating battery searching for a signal that didn't exist. I typed a few numbers into the dialer and it toggled 4G off, that alone doubled battery life.
The developer support is amazing, there is so much going on right now and the full capabilities of this phone have not even been let off the leash. I was new to Android and I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone before the sim card arrived that Verizon had to mail. It was completely painless.
Someone more familiar with Verizon will have to let you know about what competition is coming in the next six months and if you should wait for it. With what's available right now, I'd definitely choose the Thunderbolt again.
The Tbolt has its quirks, just like any other phone. The battery life isn't the best, but I think the whole issue has been overhyped. You can expect 8-10 hours with the stock rom & battery with 4G always on and typical usage. You can double that time with a custom rom & kernel. You get even more time with the extended battery. I have really enjoyed my Tbolt and I wouldn't trade it for anything except maybe the SGS2 (only if it gets LTE)
Yeah the guy at the verizon store said my family member should get an iphone4 cause the battery life sucks on tbolt. But whatever so what you buy an extended battery. No biggy. Guy at verizon an apple fan. Lol. Trying to make my family members one of the sheep. F_ck apple!!!!!!
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After being a long time BlackBerry owner, for the better part of a decade. I switched to the Motorola Pro, to have Android and a physical keyboard, and then a month later while adding a line for my wife, I saw the thunderbolt. Having already used my upgrade, I purchased it at full retail price.
Even with paying a little shy of $600 for this phone, I don't regret it one bit. The only complaint I had was the battery life. After rooting, flashing decent ROMS/kernels, and choosing the right settings, battery life has improved signifigantly. And 4G LTE is the best hands down in my opinion. Plus its nice to be able to talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time, which iPhone can't do on Verizon's 3G.
I'd just get the tbolt if I were you. If you don't like it, you have 30 days to exchange it for a different phone.
**Sent from my Ziggy powered Thunderbolt, INFECTED by Synergy, the only Virus that doesn't need a cure!**
Thanks for all the help
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This thread strikes me as being similar to walking into the Corvette museum and asking the guys bumming around in there if the like their cars. I've got 3 gripes. First, I have yet to run a ROM on this thing that didn't have some annoying quirk I just had to live with, the LTE coverage and technology still seems to have some kinks that need ironing out, and for whatever reason my digitizer has come loose on the bottom left side and it clicks when I tap the screen sometimes. I'm thinking super glue if it keeps annoying me. The Samsung Charge is the only other one I'd consider, buy no where near the custom development for it.
Hey guys so now there is a great price for this phone in one shop in my country and it's like ~60% cheaper than Galaxy S2, while specifications (RAM, CPU) ain't worse than GS2.
So is it worth buying this phone? I need honest answers, and I really didn't plan to buy a smartphone but this price is sooooo good that I imagine I won't find a smartphone with such specifications in months or years..
So what do you say? I heard big problem is dust under then screen, but is it solvable with phone case?
I would say no one else's opinions matter except yours. People come on here all day long and ***** and moan that they should've went with another phone after buying the EVO 3D, and others come on saying it's the best choice they made. I would say, go try both of them out at the store, make YOUR decision based on that.
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Hey guys so now there is a great price for this phone in one shop in my country and it's like ~70% cheaper than Galaxy S2, while specifications (RAM, CPU) ain't worse than GS2.
So is it worth buying this phone? I need honest answers, and I really didn't plan to buy a smartphone but this price is sooooo good that I imagine I won't find a smartphone with such specifications in months or years..
So what do you say? I heard big problem is dust under then screen, but is it solvable with phone case?
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absolutely. it is a great devise and has TONS of development support. especially if it is a great price. even though it is now about 6 months old it still holds its own against the new crop coming out. the 3d is my first android phone coming from many years on blackberry and haven't looked back. rooting it allows you to really got the best performance/battery life.
ultimately, it comes down to personal choice. you are going to have people that love and hate it. just my 2 cents...
Well I don't expect it to be like TOP phone in the market, especially because the price is really acceptable. But why exactly people complain about this phone? Is it something wrong with it I don't know?
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Well I don't expect it to be like TOP phone in the market, especially because the price is really acceptable. But why exactly people complain about this phone? Is it something wrong with it I don't know?
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If you've never owned a smartphone, you won't understand that no one is every truly happy with their phone. There's always something small they want different (which is why rooting and ROM flashing occurs).
eXplicit815, oh then it won't be a problem I guess because I never owned one. I was planning to buy a GS2 this summer, but price was extreme and only now I noticed this one, which does not look really worse than GS2.
So again, how about that dust under the screen? It is possible to avoid that by using a case?
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eXplicit815, oh then it won't be a problem I guess because I never owned one. I was planning to buy a GS2 this summer, but price was extreme and only now I noticed this one, which does not look really worse than GS2.
So again, how about that dust under the screen? It is possible to avoid that by using a case?
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I don't know. I've never had the problem with dust under my screen. I don't use a case either. But I know that if my phone gets dust under the screen, Sprint will either fix or replace my phone for free, no questions asked. I have the insurance plan.
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eXplicit815, oh then it won't be a problem I guess because I never owned one. I was planning to buy a GS2 this summer, but price was extreme and only now I noticed this one, which does not look really worse than GS2.
So again, how about that dust under the screen? It is possible to avoid that by using a case?
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I haven't really heard of this - maybe one posting that I saw way back. Not really an issue. A case can help, but most don't cover the screen anyways.
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I haven't really heard of this - maybe one posting that I saw way back. Not really an issue. A case can help, but most don't cover the screen anyways.
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There were issues with this on the HERO and the EVO 4G, but not a lot, if any, have been reported for the EVO 3D. They seem to have fixed the problem. I wouldn't worry about it, because HTC should stand behind it and warranty it directly for you if it does happen.
It's better then gs2.....in every way except speaker and camera....everything else its better and the 3d is amazing...the EVO 3d is super underrated.....
Prolly going to buy it tomorrow, hope price will still be low tomorrow
And what about the screen? This LCD screen is not much worse than SuperAmoled+?
I change oil for a living, and my phone takes a beating,ive never had dust get under my screen, the EVO 3d is an amazing device, you will be happy with it,
Shot from my sharp shooter in 3d
Just watched some comparison videos with GS2 and noticed browser is quite laggy on Evo 3d if the site has a lot of stuff, while GS2 is always perfect. For example on 12:50 -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY7nHi2Lcbg
Wondering is this browser performance going to be improved in the future by updates or is it hardware limiting for Evo 3d? Because overall Evo got similar amount of RAM, CPU and GPU as GS2.
I think it's because Galaxy S2 browser has full hardware acceleration, unlike the Evo 3D one.
It should be closer to GS2 performance once ICS update is out, since it'll add hardware acceleration to the UI and browser.
I even think that some custom ROMs already have hardware acceleration. Correct me if I'm wrong
with all of the development going on (and more to come as it gets ICS) the evo 3D is the best phone out there in my opinion.
make sure you don't get one with hboot 1.5 though... it will make flashing ROMs a ***** for you.
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I think it's because Galaxy S2 browser has full hardware acceleration, unlike the Evo 3D one.
It should be closer to GS2 performance once ICS update is out, since it'll add hardware acceleration to the UI and browser.
I even think that some custom ROMs already have hardware acceleration. Correct me if I'm wrong
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interesting about the huge effects of HW acceleration... i owned my evo 3D at the same time i had the GS2... signal strength was better on the EVO, clarity in phone calls was better, and the browsers both loaded idenctical web pages in eactly the same amount of time.
HW acceleration is overrated and should never be a selling point of a phone.
I bought my phone for the processor, resolution, and ram. I purchased it on launch day because it was king of the dual core qHD pack at the time. I think its a phenomenal phone. It was its flaws, i for one think the radio is a bit weak, and i never use the 3d, but that said, if you've never owned a smart phone and your getting a good price, go pick it up, you will be absolutely amazed with a phone like this. I call it my pocket linux because its my pocket computer
So i say get it!!
Before i replaced it, i shattered my screen, destroyed t, but aside from being hard to read the screen well because of all the cracks, i used the phone just fine for months that way. Its a very sturdy device. And as fas as the sg2 goes, there very similar phones spec wise, so go for price, the evo 3d is a very powerful phone, and i wouldnt dream of trading it for a sg2.
Hope to see ya around here flashin with all of us
I had the Evo 4g and then upgraded to the Evo 3d. My advice would be to get a device that's 4g LTE compatible if you're looking to get one soon. I would say wait and get the Galaxy Nexus when it comes out if you can wait a month or whatever it is. Unfortunately, I'm not in an area that even gets WiMax, Phoenix is on the bottom of the list it seems. But if it were me, I'd get an LTE phone if you plan to keep it for the next couple years, especially if you're in an area that has 4g now. Sprint will be moving to LTE, which means they'll probably limit or stop the WiMax 4g buildout across the states. So unless you're in an area that has WiMax now, you'll probably never get to use the 4g feature unless you travel to some place that has it.
Carrier IQ was a major turn off for me once I heard about what it collects and that the Evo's have it. I'm not even sure with the latest OTA that they released if they got rid of it yet.
I did the Hboot 1.5 root method today and loaded SenselessROM 2.9.5. This is the best thing I've done to this phone and would highly recommend it! Especially with the hacked Sprint Hotspot feature and removal of Carrier IQ. I'm now glad I own a Evo 3d and think this rooting/rom will hold me over until the quad-core Tegra 3 phones hit the market later this year. Then I'll upgrade to a quad-core with LTE technology, since that's the direction Sprint will be going and all other carriers are.
Thanks guys
So how do I check that my phone won't have hboot 1.5? Or is it impossible to check in the phone shop?
I like this phone. I got it back in July had it rooted as soon as it was available and have been ROM hopping ever since. I just bought one for my wife. She thinks it's the best phone yet and she has gone through a lot of different models. An unrooted phone is very quick and responsive. Battery life is ok stock can't wait to see how it is with the new update.
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So how do I check that my phone won't have hboot 1.5? Or is it impossible to check in the phone shop?
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1.5 isn't a ***** at all. You have a whopping one more step you have to do than someone who has 1.40 or lower.
Rom process for 1.40
reboot to recovery
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Flash kernel through flash image gui
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The EVO 3D is still a beast, and if you say the stock browser is slow here's some good news man. You dont have to use the stock browser, there's around 8 browsers out there that all have different pro's and cons. My first EVO 3D could be overclocked to 2.0 GHZ. Technically I had a phone running at 4.0 ghz in my pocket and damn near stable. 1gig of ram is awesome. The screen is awesome. I've got a minute amount of dust under my screen but you can only see it when the screen is off. I say go for it.
Edit: If they'll let you see the phone, take the battery out and put it back in. Hold down the power button and the volume down button at the same time until the screen kicks back on. You should be at a white screen. The text at the top should say Hboot 1.xx.xxxx on the second or third line. Pull the battery out again and you're good to go but tbh it really doesn't matter which one you get. There's ONE limitation to 1.50. You cant change your splash screen, a screen you might or might not see often.
Edit: Actually, where are you from? You might not even have to deal with 1.50 because if you're not in the united states you'll have the GSM version which can be downgraded. It's lengthy but there's a fool proof step by step walkthrough to do it.
Im coming from the HTC evo from sprint. Im on my way over to Verizon. Im interested in both the Rezound and the nexus...
Is there a reason to choose the REzound over the nexus? It doesnt seem like the Rezound has full root/s-off etc etc right? Is it a matter of time, or do they have this thing locked down?
Rezound have radio lock thats all
Rezound is faster and has alotttt stronger signal. Basically, HTC owns samsung
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I was all about the nexus but after being burned so often by buying and trying to justify my purchase waited and was about to buy a rezound till I got it as a replacement and its awesome. I love this phone so far. Great camera, It's really quick, screen is amazing and its the perfect size
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I came from the EVO as well. It was this or nexus, I chose this for the better camera and beats, which I can't go without now. Plus the free headphones. Only selling point of the nexus is ics but a senseless Rom gives a close experience which should get better in time. Plus sense 3.6 is cool and miui is in progress as well as sense 4.0
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Came from Evo 4G on Sprint as well. Went through 2 Nexus's before giving up and getting the Rezound. Signal and call quality on the Nexus was horrendous. I would hear about every third word the caller was saying which made for some pretty interesting conversations.
The ONLY advantage to the Nexus is the ease of "tweaking" it but I un-locked, flashed a recovery, and flashed a rooted ICS Rom on my Rezound in about 10 minutes.
Get the Rezound ... NO BRAINER
IMHO
Edit: BTW ... The return rate of the Nexus is upwards of 20% according to my Verizon Rep. She told me she wished they would pull it off the market.
I came on over from the Evo 3d and I love the Rezound and coverage so much I've yet to root it. This phone has almost cured my flashism. Though I'm on vacation this week, I might get in on the rooting and madness on this side of town soon.
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Thanks guys.. Im hesistant with the Nexus because IVe heard about samsung not rolling out updates etc etc as fast as they should.
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I poured over this decision back in December. I opted for the rezound because it has an sd card slot and the GNex doesn't. The camera and processor are also superior. I have mine OC's to 1.8 GHz. It is saddled with s-on though. HTC allows users to unlock the bootloader but we cannot flash radios and kernels directly via recovery. It must be done in the bootloader or via fastboot. Not the end of the world but not as easy as an s-off device. This nut seems to be a tough one to crack too. A few devs have been at it since December but no joy
Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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Once we get cm9 the nexus will be a thing of the past.
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What do you mean by that?
editeD: lolwut I got it now haha fail.
Look, I'm not expert by any means, but I feel I need to chime in. I have owned both phones. The Nexus was probably the sweetest phone I thought I ever had.. Everything seemed to work flawlessly. After a few days I constantly had problems with the Battery, Signal strength and SOUND. Let me explain. ICS was awesome IMO. It worked great and was a really nice change. But that was the only thing that was nice on it. The roms that are coming out now for the Rezound by far make this the best phone I've ever owned. Speed, picture, ICS and I personally like Sense. SO for me to give anyone advice it would easily be GO REZOUND!!
BTW.. Ask this question in the Nexus forum, and I guarantee you'll get a different response. So basically, you need to go in the store, and give yourself 20 minutes to mess around with both phones. Just keep in mind that Samsung has a reputation as having terrible radios. Be sure to listen to the sound on both. And take a look at the resolution and clarity.. A few youtube videos should do it for ya! ALSO, the fact that you get a nice set of ear phones.
I just got the rezound last week and love it. I'm coming from a sensation 4g this is a lot better phone than that is. Plus now we have an ics leak that your phone doesn't have to be rooted is sweet. And when the official ota drops you can still update
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Don't think. Just buy a rezound.
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I faced the same decision, and I went for the Rezound. The camera, reception, and overall build quality of this phone is better than that of the Nexus. I really don't like Sense, and that almost made me go for the Nexus, but software is upgradable and hardware isn't. I'm currently running a senseless ROM (XTreme's), which isn't AOSP, but it's close. It seems like there is being progress with ROMs completely lacking sense (MIUI is being worked on and apparently has RIL in-tact), and once CM9 gets its RIL issues fixed, my phone will feel complete. Even without that, I am very happy with this phone. The screen is amazing, even when compared to a Samsung device (Nexus). The battery life isn't great, but it is an LTE device... I never get signal drops, and I'm always on 4G.
okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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okay well with that being said, what do you guys loose not having s-off?
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Not much. It makes it more difficult to flash kernels, but it is still relatively easy using adb or just your phone. You can't flash radios (well at least without being relocked), which I think is the major downside of s-off. Also, unlocking through the HTCDev method won't let you go back to complete factory stock (without the bootloader saying relocked), so if Verizon happened to check, they can see that you MAY have voided PARTS of your warranty (not a big deal).
hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
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hmm Seems like its too much bull**** to deal with...
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It's really not that bad. Choose the phone you want to go with, but don't let that sway you too much. We may not have as many developers and ROMs as the Nexus, but we have some really great devs. And flashing ROMs and kernels really doesn't take noticeably longer without s-off, and becomes second nature
If you want stock ICS go Nexus.
If you want better screen, eventual Sense ICS (AOSP probably won't be possible until we can get s-off I think), and removable SD card go Rezound.
I've been a stock Android fan since the original Droid, but I've really grown to like Sense and Sense 4.0 looks even better. I do want an eventual AOSP.
I just read an article on goodandevo.net about how the og evo is just over 2 years old now. I'm not sure if this post belongs in the evo 4g section or the lte one, but It pertains to both.
My og evo could do anything, native hotspot, overclock, underclock, roam only, undervolt, virtually anything I asked of it, it could do. Short of printing out money for me to pay my bill, it was all I needed. And thats pretty much what this is about.
I don't know if Its the evo 4g lte itself, or just me, but I'm finding it hard to, I don't want to say like this phone, but I guess its on the line of that or give this phone a chance.
Going from a phone that has had every single thing hacked, any rom you could ever imagine, any kernel, any app, you could dream of... To a phone that still has bugs and issues to be worked out is more of a challenge than I originally even though about.
My only real concern that I had when I got this phone about a month ago was wifi hotspot. I use it as my daily internet source. With my og evo I used open garden for a while, it was the most reliable for me, then I switched to Swagged Out Stock rom and it had the native hotspot and tethering app unlocked.
But now that I'm on the lte, I'm realizing just how much more I depended on that phone. I miss the kernals, the unlimited amount of roms, the different radios I could flash, I bricked my og evo 3 times, sent it into bootloop I can't even count how many times, and even had the screen smashed twice. One of the times I ran it over with my truck after forgetting it under there using it as a flashlight.
I am excited for what the lte holds in store but Im quickly reminded of the "you don't know what you'you've got till it's gone" syndrome.
What are some of the things you guys are missing from your og evos and 3d's?
What are some of the things youre looking forward to with the evo 4g lte?
Sorry for the rant btw.
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never had an evo or a 3d but i have had phones of that era. i miss the wifi hotspot and tethering FOR FREE... but then companies decided to get greedy.
I got error 67 a few times on my old evo 4g, then I learned all about rooting, and flashing and especially things like nandroid backups, its killing me when I try to tether on this phone and one minute it will work and the next it won't
Plus my data is always disconnecting, on my og evo, that usually meant it was time to call sprint and have an extension put on my bill because i forgot to pay it.
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I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
This phone can native hotspot for free...
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ms79723 said:
I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I actually read that whole post. And I agree.
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-Cupper- said:
This phone can native hotspot for free...
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Clockwork tether works too. And you don't have to be rooted
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ms79723 said:
I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?i
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I agreeeeeeeeeee!!! The only thing wrong with this phone is the multitasking and ram issue which I think is a ram leak and will definitely be fixed over time. I play around with both my Evo's Og and the LTE and the difference is night and day. I swear I fully charged my Evo og yesterday and took it off the charger and let it sit with only wifi on and played with my LTE evo with close to 80% battery and the Og died while doing nothing. While my LTE was still going strong. Mind you I played airport city, browsed the net, pandora, poweramp, Gtalk, Facebook, streamed some pics and about 30 minutes of a movie to my Xbox 360 from the imediashare app and a phone call and my battery was good. People just nitpick for no reason. Single people do this. Because, they're never satisfied.
I really like this phone. I set roaming to automatic and it does almost as well as my OG did in Sprint only mode. I also don't have to worry about having extra batteries. Rooting was fun too, I got to learn all about the 14 cycles of unbricking.
The slide action keyboard and it's uncanny ability to preclude the addition of any spaces after punctuations and inability to retroactively capitalize, saves a lot of processor power, and letts me get familiar with the space bar. ShapeWriter keyboard which is too small in this huge resolution screen was written years ago, and needed to be replaced, only wish the functionality had been brought in.
Seriously keeping the EVO OG incase I bend this one.
OP I understand where your coming from. Kinda had a feeling like that on the first day with this phone, but then I realized how much HTC finally improved everything from OG. Granted I'm S-Off for the future but I'm still on stock with root, and its amazing that a majority of people are still very happy on it.
If your wanting every type of mod similar to the OG, time is not your friend for now. Give it 8 months to a year for stuff to start changing in that direction. Until then, enjoy what HTC envisioned, because it could be worse!
Totally agree with ms79723.
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I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.<br />
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These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?<br />
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I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?<br />
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This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.<br />
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So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I understand what youre saying, and I do love this phone, I'm fully just being inpatient, and I know I am. Thats life. I was spoiled with everything I could do by the end of my run with the og evo, that not being able to do as much in terms of flashing is a bumming me out. I didn't flash roms because I needed to, I did it purely for fun, I would read reviews about a new one (and they're still being updated today) and flash it for a couple of days. I would flash multiple kernals a day. And I got used to the luxury of it.
Don't get me wrong, I love this phone, the graphics, the camera, its fast, plenty of storage, and when the ball really gets rolling with this phone, and I mean everything gets working its gonna be astounding. I can't wait.
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What I really don't miss about flashing roms is having to restore all my old apps and resync all my email accts, etc. Really don't miss the random reboots from unstable roms or in the later life of the og EVO low memory from trying to run roms too powerful for it.
I really like the EVO LTE. The battery lasts 3x as long as the og EVO did. The screen is beautiful and just as impressive as the og EVO was on day 1. Overall, if the S3 wasn't released within a month of the EVO LTE it would be up there with the og EVO in terms of popularity.
If we had a good 6 months head start on the S3.... Man, I can only speculate.
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How awful was the og evo's battery right? Loving my LTE. This phone feels like a big upgrade unlike the EVO 3D.
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The new EVO LTE does everything the OG EVO does/did in my opinion and 4x the speed etc. Remember, source was just released, a lot more to come with JB source as well etc.
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I just miss the data speed of wimax because 3g in the SF bay area is anywhere from barely ok to holy crap this is slower than my 56k modem. Other than that the phone on the whole is an upgrade across the board. The 2 evos i have are being used as remotes for my living room and bedroom now.
Same here. I had the og evo since it came out and used it until the ltevo came out. The ltevo has been a huge downgrade in real world function despite the far superior hardware nominal specs.
About the only things that are better are more flash so that my apps no longer are out of room, and google wallet is kind of fun to use, and battery life is a little better.
But I had managed to get by with app2sd before and, and google wallet is merely fun to play with, not an actually important function yet. Even the larger screen isn't that bigvof a deal bc tge og evo screen is pretty big already.
Camera doesn't focus right, links to maps and youtube don't open the native app even after rooting and applying the supposed fixes, radio reception sucks, wifi constantly fails to hand off to 3g or other wifi nets when you drive away from one you were connected to, neither the stock nor any other car mode works worth a crap, of course the well known multitasking, I really can't even think of all the unneccesary problems when I try to list them like this because they are so many that I am forced to get good at dealing with them and moving on 30 times a day. It's so many little things that it adds up to a constant, somewhat crappy experience. I wish I could have two phones use the same number because I would actually use my og evo a lot of the time right now rather than fight with this thing. Heck there's another one, writing this post, for some reason it's a lot harder for me to write on this keyboard than the og evo. And why do the arrow keys appear sometimes and not others? I make mistakes a lot and re-word things a lot and I need the arrow keys for editing, but here iin the xda-premium app, no arrows. Other apps they're there. Some things are not necessarily htc's fault but they're still a downgrade from the og. Like the damned lack of menu button, forcing the on-screen button to appear in most apps that were great before, again such as xda-premium.
The phone is cool if you never owned a phone before, but a lot of user experience crossing t's and dotting i's are missing and all in all it's a downgrade from the og.
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Lol
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ms79723 said:
I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I agree with this completely. I made the mistake of buying the 3D assuming it would have the same dev support was going to be as legendary as the Evo 4G's (a phone which I never had the chance to own). Needless to say, it constantly made me feel like my phone wasn't good enough, even though software wise there was nothing wrong with it (hardware though, that was a different story).
Now that I have this phone, I've come to appreciate what the stock experience offers. I'm using Flex's optimized stock ROM, and I find myself keeping my current ROM and less interested in flashing things for the sake of flashing them.
I've arrived at a point with Android where I want my phone to be my phone, I don't want to keep wondering "can I push it harder". I'm going to let other people do the testing for me, and when they do, when I'm ready, I'll use the end product and I want to enjoy it.
Afterall, Google Now (whenever we get JB) needs a long time to fully understand your life before it becomes as useful as they say. Can't exactly establish that if I keep switching ROMs
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Same here. I had the og evo since it came out and used it until the ltevo came out. The ltevo has been a huge downgrade in real world function despite the far superior hardware nominal specs.
About the only things that are better are more flash so that my apps no longer are out of room, and google wallet is kind of fun to use, and battery life is a little better.
But I had managed to get by with app2sd before and, and google wallet is merely fun to play with, not an actually important function yet. Even the larger screen isn't that bigvof a deal bc tge og evo screen is pretty big already.
Camera doesn't focus right, links to maps and youtube don't open the native app even after rooting and applying the supposed fixes, radio reception sucks, wifi constantly fails to hand off to 3g or other wifi nets when you drive away from one you were connected to, neither the stock nor any other car mode works worth a crap, of course the well known multitasking, I really can't even think of all the unneccesary problems when I try to list them like this because they are so many that I am forced to get good at dealing with them and moving on 30 times a day. It's so many little things that it adds up to a constant, somewhat crappy experience. I wish I could have two phones use the same number because I would actually use my og evo a lot of the time right now rather than fight with this thing. Heck there's another one, writing this post, for some reason it's a lot harder for me to write on this keyboard than the og evo. And why do the arrow keys appear sometimes and not others? I make mistakes a lot and re-word things a lot and I need the arrow keys for editing, but here iin the xda-premium app, no arrows. Other apps they're there. Some things are not necessarily htc's fault but they're still a downgrade from the og. Like the damned lack of menu button, forcing the on-screen button to appear in most apps that were great before, again such as xda-premium.
The phone is cool if you never owned a phone before, but a lot of user experience crossing t's and dotting i's are missing and all in all it's a downgrade from the og.
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I got better reception with my og evo I think, data connection didnt drop off like it does with this phone.
Again dont get me wrong, I'm.obsessed with this phone, but I'm not a dev, so I'm waiting, hoping, and praying that itbgets the same support the og evo is STILL gettingml.
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I got better reception with my og evo I think, data connection didnt drop off like it does with this phone.
Again dont get me wrong, I'm.obsessed with this phone, but I'm not a dev, so I'm waiting, hoping, and praying that itbgets the same support the og evo is STILL gettingml.
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I'll echo this.
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