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Hi,
is anybody working on porting HTC Sense to SG2 ?
I know there are threads on this issue with Samsung Galaxy S1 and Tab.
The SG2 is a good phone hardware wise (except for it totally over saturated colors on the display, and lack of led notification light), but it is directly user unfriendly software wise. (yes I have tried the NOLED software, but it drains the battery in notime, uninstalled!) - And making my living as a photographer with 3 hardware calibrated LCD screens, I can not recognize my pictures on the screen on the SG2, it may have good black-levels, but hello ??? The colors are WRONG on this phone!
After having used HTC Desire before, so many things are annoying me on
this SG2.
The list is so long with issues that I am considering writing up a bad-review for the
Samsung GS2 just to show how bad it is compared to HTC phones.
Just to mention a few issues:
- the stock keyboard on the SG2 is a joke! (yes I know there are 3rd partys and I am using one)- but the first you notice is you have to do a LOT of extra keystrokes to find and do what you want to do! (comma, special signs etc.)
- the call module, log etc is really really bad, HTC has collected them all in one window, on the SG2 you have to press a LOT to get what you want, and what moron decided to embed the text-messages in the call-log? you cannot remove the either! sick!
- pressing a missed call (once you find it WAY down the list, due to all the text messages above it), you get up another annoying option screen, why cant the damn phone just make the call back?? that's why you are there isn't it?
- the embedded modules/widgets on the HTC is unbeatable, like the brilliant friend widget which includes both a fb and a brilliant flickr broweser. There is not a single desent flickr program/browser on the market that can compare!
- I have tried just about every 3rd party launcher there is available, but they all are bad compared to HTC sense. currently using Launcher Pro Plus, which tries to emulate some of the features of the HTC sense UI, but doing it badly. annoyin message constantly about entering twitter preferences, the point is I dont have and dont need twitter!! AAARGH!!!
I am not a millionaire and I would prefer not having to buy a new phone and loose money on my over-rated SG2. But if porting HTC Sense to the SG2 is unlikely to happen I will take the loss.
For crying out loud, who buyes a smartphone based on reviews that run benchmarking software to test them? We need a phone to work smoothly and be user friendly, not win every possible benchmark!
And while I am writing this, the SG2 beeps telling me the battery is flat, AGAIN !!
I do not mean to ***** and complain, but I really think somebody should start working on the Sense port to Samsung. I hope somebody else sees my points.
Best reg,
messus
messus said:
Hi,
is anybody working on porting HTC Sense to SG2 ?
I know there are threads on this issue with Samsung Galaxy S1 and Tab.
The SG2 is a good phone hardware wise (except for it totally over saturated colors on the display, and lack of led notification light), but it is directly user unfriendly software wise. (yes I have tried the NOLED software, but it drains the battery in notime, uninstalled!) - And making my living as a photographer with 3 hardware calibrated LCD screens, I can not recognize my pictures on the screen on the SG2, it may have good black-levels, but hello ??? The colors are WRONG on this phone!
After having used HTC Desire before, so many things are annoying me on
this SG2.
The list is so ling with issues that I am considering writing up a bad-review for the
Samsung GS2 just to show how bad it is compared to HTC phones.
Just to mention a few issues:
- the stock keyboard on the SG2 is a joke! (yes I know there are 3rd partys and I am using one)- but the first you notice is you have to do a LOT of extra keystrokes to find and do what you want to do! (comma, special signs etc.)
- the call module, log etc is really really bad, HTC has collected them all in one window, on the SG2 you have to press a LOT to get what you want, and what moron decided to embed the text-messages in the call-log? you cannot remove the either! sick!
- pressing a missed call (once you find it WAY down the list, due to all the text messages above it), you get up another annoying option screen, why cant the damn phone just make the call back?? that's why you are there isn't it?
- the embedded modules/widgets on the HTC is unbeatable, like the brilliant friend widget which includes both a fb and a brilliant flickr broweser. There is not a single desent flickr program/browser on the market that can compare!
- I have tried just about every 3rd party launcher there is available, but they all are bad compared to HTC sense. currently using Launcher Pro Plus, which tries to emulate some of the features of the HTC sense UI, but doing it badly. annoyin message constantly about entering twitter preferences, the point is I dont have and dont need twitter!! AAARGH!!!
I am not a millionaire and I would prefer not having to buy a new phone and loose money on my over-rated SG2. But if porting HTC Sense to the SG2 is unlikely to happen I will take the loss.
For crying out loud, who buyes a smartphone based on reviews that run benchmarking software to test them? We need a phone to work smoothly and be user friendly, not win every possible benchmark!
And while I am writing this, the SG2 beeps telling me the battery is flat, AGAIN !!
I do not mean to ***** and complain, but I really think somebody should start working on the Sens port to Samsung. I hope somebody else sees my points.
Best reg,
messus
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My suggestion is go buy a sensation because It doesn't sound like you want to do the work to get what you want. Those who like the sense UI really like it and the SGII might not be the best fit for you.
As to who buys the phone based on reviews .... well you obviously and now you are all panty twisted because its not a HTC phone. One suggests you should have just gone for a HTC to start instead of buying a phone ... waiting out the return period and then coming here to whine.
What to you mean "do the work" ? I am not a programmer, that's why I am "whining" about it and asking if anybody knows if anybody is working on this.
And yes, it is stupid to get carried away when just about every reviewer gives the Samsung Galaxy S2 which has good hardware, full score due to running benchmarking programs. And I admit I was stupid. But I guess you get "carried away" and you are
thinking "all of them can't be wrong" !? - In this case I am tempted to say they actually
are, since the phone is not user friendly at all.
Nevertheless, I am certain the SG2 with Sense 3.0 would be the ultimate thing.
Best,
messus
I have used sense and I do not like it.
HTC fanboys are worse than Apple 's sometimes.
SGS S II is faster than sensation because that phone has sense on it.
It slows it down and if you have 100mb of free RAM you are lucky.
Believe me just flash miui and you are happy
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Bratag said:
My suggestion is go buy a sensation because It doesn't sound like you want to do the work to get what you want. Those who like the sense UI really like it and the SGII might not be the best fit for you.
As to who buys the phone based on reviews .... well you obviously and now you are all panty twisted because its not a HTC phone. One suggests you should have just gone for a HTC to start instead of buying a phone ... waiting out the return period and then coming here to whine.
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This is xda, and this is what xda is supposed to be about, not tell people to buy a phone but to get the stuff working.
messus said:
What to you mean "do the work" ? I am not a programmer, that's why I am "whining" about it and asking if anybody knows if anybody is working on this.
And yes, it is stupid to get carried away when just about every reviewer gives the Samsung Galaxy S2 which has good hardware, full score due to running benchmarking programs. And I admit I was stupid. But I guess you get "carried away" and you are
thinking "all of them can't be wrong" !? - In this case I am tempted to say they actually
are, since the phone is not user friendly at all.
Nevertheless, I am certain the SG2 with Sense 3.0 would be the ultimate thing.
Best,
messus
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All of the problems you listed can be rectified by third party software - much of which is free. In fact the sense UI lockscreen was just made available to all in the android hacking section as were several other parts of the OS. But searching is hard ....
This is xda, and this is what xda is supposed to be about, not tell people to buy a phone but to get the stuff working.
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Actually its not supposed to be ABOUT anything other than the hacking and use of devices, its not a support forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
GJ123, thank you !! That MIUI stuff looks really interesting, will give it a go!
godutch said:
This is xda, and this is what xda is supposed to be about, not tell people to buy a phone but to get the stuff working.
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Twoddle. People who develop on xda do it for their own fun and then they share. Developers are not at the beck and call of anyone who wants X to do Y.
Xda is about sharing information and tech - NOT issuing demands.
As for the OP, that was just a little too aggressive to be taken seriously, so I'm not surprised that he got flamed for it, but at least he seems to be getting some positive responses now.
Incidentally, this subject has been discussed many times and a simple search on the OP's part would have led them to other threads where this could have been discussed. Instead, they decided to ignore the forum rules and start a new thread.
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GJ123, thank you !! That MIUI stuff looks really interesting, will give it a go!
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No thanks,
Will you report back over how you think about MIUI?
Remeber it is still beta btw
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I do not mean to ***** and complain
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So is this accidental *****ing and complaining then?
GOOD NEWS!!!
You can get sense here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1109
skimminstones said:
GOOD NEWS!!!
You can get sense here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1109
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Xda is not supposed to have this kind of fanboy activity, at least not when i joined.
defending touchwiz/samsung to the point where you tell others to sell their phones just to get sense ui is ridiculous. who are YOU to say sense should not be ported? I believe the developer has the right. why would you try to prevent interest in this rom?
1xinfusion said:
Xda is not supposed to have this kind of fanboy activity, at least not when i joined.
defending touchwiz/samsung to the point where you tell others to sell their phones just to get sense ui is ridiculous. who are YOU to say sense should not be ported? I believe the developer has the right. why would you try to prevent interest in this rom?
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lol lighten up dude. it was a joke
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lol lighten up dude. it was a joke
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Your sense of humour is very bad
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whining about the colours. Go to settings>display>screen mode>standard
Ever owned a TV, you can easily adjust the screen colours man.
And the only true hot thing about Sense 3.0 is the lockscreen, but you can get almost the exact same lockscreen with agile lock. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nanoha.SenseScreen_charge
stop hatin.
Mod edit: The use of offence language on XDA is against forum rules read the rules!!! Any future use will result in infractions and vacation.
In case no one knows about this yet, I'll just leave this here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217752
androidsjonnie said:
whining about the colours. Go to settings>display>screen mode>standard
Ever owned a TV, you can easily adjust the screen colours man.
And the only true hot thing about Sense 3.0 is the lockscreen, but you can get almost the exact same lockscreen with agile lock. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nanoha.SenseScreen_charge
stop hatin.
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this isn't a teen forum or a chatroom, at least try to not use offensive words please?
GJ123 said:
No thanks,
Will you report back over how you think about MIUI?
Remeber it is still beta btw
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YES! I can tell you I have been running MIUI ever since I started this thread!
And, I will NEVER go back to stock rom, or semi-stock modifed rom, THIS (MIUI) is how the Samsung Galaxy S2 should have been from the beginning! And all other android devices without HTC Sense for that matter. MIUI is a fantastic user interface, beautiful, smooth, practical, very well thought-through and USER FRIENDLY !!
Thank you MIUI ! If it was not for you I would have trashed this higly over-rated smartphone from Samsung!
watch this and decide !
http://www.kontraband.com/videos/28591/Apple-Ad/#show
No
Ten char
Lmao. Idk. Why that made me laugh. Its funny apple coming out with this "new" intuitive software
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Ten char
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coffeehandle said:
Lmao. Idk. Why that made me laugh. Its funny apple coming out with this "new" intuitive software
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Apple is always a year or two behind in technology and then make it seem like it is new and they introduced it.
yousefak said:
then make it seem like it is new and they introduced it.
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And unfortunately, for the general public, they do believe that they introduced it. Watch. Give it a couple of months and most technologically retarded people will be claiming this is one of the features that they have over Android.
I don't know if Siri is better or not since I haven't tried it, but what I do know is that of all the voice recognition software that I've used, Google's is the best by a very very very long shot.
A co-worker, whom I would say is one such person who would believe what Apple tells him. He is thinking about upgrading his Iphone just to get the new Siri. He said that there was nothing else like that on phones and he thought it was cool.
I told him that I talk into my phone all the time instead of typing, and it rarely makes mistakes
I think he had a brain seizer when I told him that.
it was supposed to be a joke post siri is absolute rubbish love google voice though it rocks
Last night after telling a friend of mine that Apple stock dropped shortly after they revealed the iP4s, he mentioned that it may not be a huge upgrade but that Siri makes it all worth while, revolutionizing the way we use our phones. I quote "With Siri you can tell your phone to text someone and dictate the text message!" I lol'd for a little while.
I wonder how long Apple will be able to get away with these kinds of updates... you know, the ones that bring minimal changes though sell millions.
Siri is completely different than what's available in Android right now. Sure, it can do the whole voice to text thing, but it's also a little smarter. Just watch the demo. You can ask the current weather, and it'll find out about where you're at now, then you can say "How about Chicago?" and it'll remember that you were talking about the weather and find out the weather in Chicago. It's not groundbreaking, but it's not what's currently available in Android
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Siri is completely different than what's available in Android right now. Sure, it can do the whole voice to text thing, but it's also a little smarter. Just watch the demo. You can ask the current weather, and it'll find out about where you're at now, then you can say "How about Chicago?" and it'll remember that you were talking about the weather and find out the weather in Chicago. It's not groundbreaking, but it's not what's currently available in Android
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I know it offers mote than what's available, it was funny that feature he was mist excited about and thought most useful were analogous to what's available in Android.
tapa tapa tapa
Isnt google voice just for VOICEMAIL and numbers?
Whooo! (Cole Voice...)
knowledge561 said:
Isnt google voice just for VOICEMAIL and numbers?
Whooo! (Cole Voice...)
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yeah, I think we all just assumed the OP was talking about the Voice Search/Command features...
I would be willing to bet Siri shares a lot of her source code with google's voice recognition
I think the benefit to siri(note I HATE apple) is that it seems to not need exact commands, like the do I need a raincoat today in the commericial. And the whole talking back and reading text out loud. That being said I Hope to see lots of yuppies yelling at iPhones soon!
I'm hoping voice search gets revamped on Ice Cream Sandwich, I read some where they are prepared to update all the core google apps as soon as it drops. Most people I meet don't even know it's there. thats really a shame
Can anybody really say which is better from watching a damn demo? Hell..it's not even out and already deciding which is better. It's like watching a demo for a car commercial without driving it.
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I would be willing to bet Siri shares a lot of her source code with google's voice recognition
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I'm willing to bet your damn correct.
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My girlfriend has an iphone 4 (from her parents), and back in my EVO 4G days we were messing around with her iphone voice commands and my Google voice commands and mine would get nearly everything right and hers would get nearly everything totally wrong It was pretty funny.
I was sitting with my wife and we saw something about siri on the news... And the clip they used was "set alarm for 6:00am".... and they said it was a first and revolutionary... I was like wtf.... My phone already does that... That's BS..
how can they call revolutionary when my phone already does that..
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It may be able to set the alarm, but can it do this?
HTC Incredible - Speech Recognition
It's silly and moot to compare them right now since Siri isn't out for the general public. However using iPhone's previous voice recognition has sucked. All Google needs to do is simply implement it better (like a guy here posted earlier about how the phone "remembers" you're asking about the weather) which I reckon should be easy to do.
Not praising Google or anything, but out of all the voice recognition software I've used (and that's quite a lot, always found the concept interesting) Google's is the only one that I've had the least errors with. I even try to confuse it on purpose at times.
The thing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth is that this will (probably) only be available for the 4S when pretty much every other iPhone will have the capability of doing it. They're re-releasing almost the same iPhone 4 phone with exclusive software. That's why I don't buy Apple, they shaft their costumers.
Oh and before people start saying Apple invented this and are innovators: Apple Buys Siri, A Mobile Assistant App, As War With Google Heats Up. Great for them to have implemented it, but lets be honest, it's nothing new.
EDIT:
After a quick Google search:
Vlingo Virtual Assistant - Android Market
Edwin, Speech-to-Speech - Android Market
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To those in Europe/Asia who have played with how is it versus Siri? I'm contemplating buying it this summer if its Quad-core
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GSMArena actually made a video on this.
I think the S-Voice does decently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAwUdhxzmF4
The only sure way is to ask Siri. Or S-Voice
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I'm contemplating buying it this summer if its Quad-core
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Sir... it is quad core.
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Coreym said:
Sir... it is quad core.
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Unless you're in USA and you got to get the 4G LTE version with Snapdragon S4.
Or order it online and get international version with Exynos.
I'd say both are equally useless.
omersak said:
I'd say both are equally useless.
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I agree, it's a gimmick, sure it's nice but why talk to the phone when you can just do it in 1 or 2 taps.
furt890 said:
I agree, it's a gimmick, sure it's nice but why talk to the phone when you can just do it in 1 or 2 taps.
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Agreed, but looking forward to shouting "SNOOZE" ya bar steward, at it in the Morning
I'm skeptical:
If I want to make fun of my friends with their i**** I say "ask siri what the weather is like in fuerteventura"
If the iSheep does, siri answers after an eternity "I don't know"
an eternity later it she says "Shall I look for you on the internet?"
if you say "yes", you end up with a picture of the island.
Then I take my SGS2, say "weather fuerteventura" in google voice search and seconds later the brower opens with the usual weather graphic.
The iSheeps say it's because it's the german version of siri. But I say BS!
We'll see....
Watching someone trying to get siri to work in a noisy cafe or street is very amusing, they look like such idiots.
They would rather spend 5 minutes trying to get the stupid phone to understand them than actually do it themselves in 5 seconds by tapping the screen a few times.
Sir-Awesome said:
GSMArena actually made a video on this.
I think the S-Voice does decently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAwUdhxzmF4
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S-voice does much worse in that video "The joker are taking a fat?" although, of course, this is only the english version.
Thing is, though, as others have pointed out, both do pretty badly in real life. Voice commands are little more than a marketing gimmick right now, good only for performing basic tasks or showing off. Indeed, there's a class action lawsuit on Siri for being portrayed as more effective than she really is.
S-voice and Siri both works exactly same kind. But S3 has more advance features than iPhone 4S. So for now S3 is better, but iPhone 5 will come that can change the whole phone market.
Iphone 5 will come out and disenfranchise all the fanboys because the apple snake no longer has its spiritual head ruling the design process with an iron fist.
We will see i guess, totally not expecting magic though.
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KapWorldDevp2 said:
S-voice and Siri both works exactly same kind. But S3 has more advance features than iPhone 4S. So for now S3 is better, but iPhone 5 will come that can change the whole phone market.
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So S-voice requires a data connection as well? It'd be bad
I read somewhere that you can take a shot with S-voice: it could be fun and useful. It replaces a remote control if it properly works!
Zisworg said:
So S-voice requires a data connection as well? It'd be bad
I read somewhere that you can take a shot with S-voice: it could be fun and useful. It replaces a remote control if it properly works!
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The camera has voice shoot anyway, Samsung disappoint repackaging vlingo, relaunching it, then saying it is new........that's bad practise!
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funb0b said:
Agreed, but looking forward to shouting "SNOOZE" ya bar steward, at it in the Morning
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I actually look forward to this too, but I'm going to make the snooze function react to the word "poopypants", because wouldn't that just be great? With the SGS3, "poopypants" can be the first word you say every day, setting the tone for the rest of your day AND annoying the hell out of the wife after a while as an added bonus!
On another thread someone has already confirmed it does nothing without a connection even when its a local request like opening an app.
As to voice control I like it when it can go directly to something that would otherwise take multiple clicks or drilling into menus. Like in my car I can push one button and say "play the Rolling Stones" and it gets it every time. Nice and easy, no drilling into menus, no muss, no fuss. I could also say "temperature, 72 degrees" and it will turn the temp up to 72 but I never do. Its easier to just reach over and spin the knob. The same would be true of the phone. Rather than open the player, scroll to the music, select it, it would be a saving to just name that band and have it playing. On the other hand I'm not sure why I would ask for the weather when I can just tap the screen once and I got it.
there both crap
Like 75% of people who will own this phone, I will never use the voice features, they have always been bad, and I have never been able to find a use for it.
Your voice recognition is bad, and you should feel bad.
I would use it casual, but not professional. ONly to impress friends ;p
Just ran across this, looks promising. We'll see what happens.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cogcode/silvia-for-android?ref=category
I like this so much I put $20 into it. Deal is if it doesn't fund you get your money back, so it's not much of a gamble. I'm not suggesting you do, that's your decision.
Update # 3 http://www.kickstarter.com/activity?ref=menu
Hope the final release does not ramble on as much! Last thing I need is another woman rambling on in my life.
Tnman7 said:
Hope the final release does not ramble on as much! Last thing I need is another woman rambling on in my life.
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So I take it your wife or girlfriend does NOT read this forum
Interesting
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Hope the final release does not ramble on as much! Last thing I need is another woman rambling on in my life.
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Long way to go to get to $150k.
Hate to slam this, but there are like 100 Siri clones in the market.
Some are pretty good.
And didn't google hire the Siri developer from Apple last year?
Moving this to the right section......themes and APPS....
On another note what's so different about this from the countless others in the android market already?.....like iris, jeannie,...?
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Moving this to the right section......themes and APPS....
On another note what's so different about this from the countless others in the android market already?.....like iris, jeannie,...?
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Sorry about that Slaughter, it was late. Check it out . We currently have nothing even close. This guy seem to be on the right track for sure. Did you take the time to fully read the guys credentials & watch the demo. Seem like this thing is a lot more sophisticated than anything out there now, i like it. Maybe Google will buy him out. One can only hope. Would love to see Apple get blown out of the water. This post wont get any coverage back here any chance of moving it back ?
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Sorry about that Slaughter, it was late. Check it out . We currently have nothing even close. This guy seem to be on the right track for sure. Did you take the time to fully read the guys credentials & watch the demo. Seem like this thing is a lot more sophisticated than anything out there now, i like it. Maybe Google will buy him out. One can only hope. Would love to see Apple get blown out of the water. This post wont get any coverage back here any chance of moving it back ?
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i skimmed it...still there are a few apps in the market that do a ton if not all of what siri can do right now...
as for moving it back, im going to have to deny that as it doesn't make sense to put it up in general when its app related and doesn't really warrant the need to get huge coverage at this point anyway...If this thing starts to gain traction or become some kind of big huge event then maybe...
but for now app/theme talk is what belongs in this forum, so itll stay here in the mean time...
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On another note what's so different about this from the countless others in the android market already?.....like iris, jeannie,...?
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Judging from the video, this software is way more intuitive than any of the current voice apps. I'm using Speaktoit Assistant and Vlingo right now and they work pretty good, but you have to learn what to say to get it to do what you want.
In this video, the software seems to actually "know" what you mean and what you might mean and convey it back to you in a true conversational tone. In addition, it can differentiate between your "message" and "command" words intutitively.
Looks pretty impressive to me compared to what's currently out there. This seems to be actual AI instead of pattern or keyword recognition used in Vlingo or Speaktoit.
I'm in.
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Judging from the video, this software is way more intuitive than any of the current voice apps. I'm using Speaktoit Assistant and Vlingo right now and they work pretty good, but you have to learn what to say to get it to do what you want.
In this video, the software seems to actually "know" what you mean and what you might mean and convey it back to you in a true conversational tone. In addition, it can differentiate between your "message" and "command" words intutitively.
Looks pretty impressive to me compared to what's currently out there. This seems to be actual AI instead of pattern or keyword recognition used in Vlingo or Speaktoit.
I'm in.
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Try jeannie as its more advanced than vlingo to an extent as u can ask it questions just like siri
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the part where sylvia showed him a yellow bmw after he said he likes the color yellow then likes BMW was pretty cool.
Wish they would create a Marvin ...... LOL
Originally Posted by couragedragon
Judging from the video, this software is way more intuitive than any of the current voice apps. I'm using Speaktoit Assistant and Vlingo right now and they work pretty good, but you have to learn what to say to get it to do what you want.
In this video, the software seems to actually "know" what you mean and what you might mean and convey it back to you in a true conversational tone. In addition, it can differentiate between your "message" and "command" words intutitively.
Looks pretty impressive to me compared to what's currently out there. This seems to be actual AI instead of pattern or keyword recognition used in Vlingo or Speaktoit.
I'm in.
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Try jeannie as its more advanced than vlingo to an extent as u can ask it questions just like siri
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Yeah, I prefer Assistant by speaktoit for Jeanine type functionality. It works pretty well conversationally.
I can't remember why Jeanine didn't work that well for me. Not sure if you watched the SILVIA video or not but it appears to be much more intelligent with seemingly highly advanced memory and cognition.
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Utter! is the only voice assistant I'm interested in.
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I donated $20. Figured why not, I like the fact that it let him build on the outgoing SMS. Wish it would have shown up the message it sent, to see how good it was at putting his words down. Whenever I use a assistant app it always gets a extra work in their -_-
So when you make the $20.00 donation, you'll receive the app when est. release? Or do you get it now, then updates?
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So when you make the $20.00 donation, you'll receive the app when est. release? Or do you get it now, then updates?
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According to the kickstarter page, if the project gets funded, estimate release date is Dec 2012.
I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
semperlux said:
I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
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where did you hear that the LTE won't get jelly bean?
semperlux said:
I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
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Google made it mandatory for OEMs to support their product for 18 months...the EVO, without a doubt in my mind, will recieve the jellybean update...disable gmail app under apps>all> click gmail and top right button disables it. Or don't sync your google account?
Battery pull is as easy as holding your power button for 10 seconds until it reboots..you're chilling
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I didn't eveN think that ios had a real UI..if you wanna look like ios remove all widgets and just put a bunch of apps on your home screens..the battery thing you will get over..Trust me..and I don't know where u saw we won't get jellybean. I think that's hogwash
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I didn't eveN think that ios had a real UI..if you wanna look like ios remove all widgets and just put a bunch of apps on your home screens..the battery thing you will get over..Trust me..and I don't know where u saw we won't get jellybean. I think that's hogwash
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Yeah the JB thing got me there for a second. Even if HTC decided not to release JB, someone, will release a build for it.
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JB isn't a huge leap like gingerbread to ICS was, even if that were true (which I doubt) that shouldn't deter you from getting this phone.
You prefer the iPhone UI? All you do is scroll through pages of apps. We call that the app drawer. Haha, everything else may be new to you, so I'm guessing you may not be taking advantage of the FAR more interesting UI of Android 4.0. Learn more, and you'll love it.
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semperlux said:
I'm on day #2 of playing with this new phone. So far I'm impressed with:
Camera and camcorder (OMG!!)
Sound (get some nice headphones! Without them it won't sound any different than a pos walkman.)
speed (Quadrant standard has it at the top "Your device ************************ " NICE!")
weight (it's so light!!)
Don't like:
Reading that it might not get Jelly Bean (deal breaker)
Compared to an iPhone, speed and utility are better but stylistically an ugly GUI. IOS still feels more solid to me.
need to find a battery pull solution--one of the main reasons that I didn't get an iPhone.
Don't want to have to root this phone to make it better.
I'd say that about covers it. I have 12 days left to see if I'm going to keep this phone or not as I bought through a special that Radio Shack's having. But yeah, the Jelly Bean thing is a real crusher if it's true. I've read many different opinions on this an nothing concrete. Does anyone have more information on this?
Also, does anyone know how to disable the Gmail app? In my other rooted phones I used to delete it and use Maildroid or the native Android email app--much better.
I really want to keep this phone, the camera's just amazing (for a phone). thoughts?
Thanks.
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Indeed the camera and camcorder are spiffy ^^
It will get jelly bean.
Honestly, if you like the iphone gui you can probably just install another launcher or rom like MIUI once/if it gets stable.
The battery pull thing isn't that bad, and if you need to replace the battery with a new one, it is possible but it's a really involved process.
Here's where I can't really comfort you. You will most likely have to root this phone in order to stay happy with it. I thought I didn't need to because the speed and everything was so amazing and overwhelming at first, but I did. I'm not sure how much the OTA helped, but for now I believe you will be forced to root in order to compensate for the devices flaws(Wifi/3g stability & multitasking mainly). Rooting can help alleviate some of this pain and make it a strong daily driver though.
Once you root, you won't notice a large performance boost, mainly because on today's phones and our phone specifically it's powerful enough to handle most tasks already. Battery life won't change much either(I get a fairly solid day easily). Although you'll get a lot more stability out of your phone strangely.
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You prefer the iPhone UI? All you do is scroll through pages of apps. We call that the app drawer. Haha, everything else may be new to you, so I'm guessing you may not be taking advantage of the FAR more interesting UI of Android 4.0. Learn more, and you'll love it.
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I keep trying to tell my gf who has an iPhone 4s the same thing! They are boring as hell...not to mention very outdated... People spend money to upgrade from 4 to 4s for siri and NEVER USE IT...WTF??!! A waste of $200+
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Yea ios to me is a joke..sure the apps are nice and it is super smooth but there is nothing else to it...I get bored with ios within minutes..if.I get tired of my phone I can do a complete overhaul and completely change the look of the UI..if all android had to do is scroll through apps on sure it would be just as responsive..although its getting pretty damn close
lol no official JB on the HTC EVO 4G LTE?? What kind of BS is that? whoever told you that is full of ish.
Yeah… LOL! I thought I'd get flamed for complimenting IOS's GUI.
We're an Apple family (iPhones, iPods, MBPro, Mac Mini) and I'm the only Android user. What I mean by GUI is Apple's approach to simplicity and user fluidity. Those are all things that I liked when I used MIUI on my first EVO. It's not that I like the screens of cloned icons--yeah, that's boring. I just like how smooth everything works on iPhones and iPods--you can't deny it, it's buttery smooth! When designing user interfaces, it's often the little things that matter and Apple really seems to pay attention to that. I don't see the point of widgets, I get what they are but I don't find them useful enough to keep, like MIUI. The PANDORA widget works sometimes and I have to go into the app to remind it to play! LOL.
I'm not bashing Anrdroid or the EVO--I bought another one that I'd really like to keep. But I also appreciate what other manufacturers do. The EVO 4G LTE has fluidity in some ways especially when using Chrome--wow!
I Googled "EVO 4G LTE jelly bean" and found a bunch of posts at other android websites where some users expressed the EVO LTE might now get JB, too many to post.
Ok, thanks all for your replies--and yeah, I'll probably be rooting this phone if I keep it (probably will) just like all the other Androids I've rooted.
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Yeah… LOL! I thought I'd get flamed for complimenting IOS's GUI.
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I'm surprised you weren't, actually. iOS is like the worst curse word around here.
Not sure how you can compare android to ios... I'd rather have my og evo than iPhone5... facepalm... evo lte will see jellybean soon, og evo will see jb...
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Best phone
This phone kicks ass I left sgs2 and def not be looking for back I'm team evo 4g now
Amen to all that especially the ending haha
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I have both now; evo lte and sIII. My impressions so far is that the build quality is vastly superior on the HTC. I also prefer the HTC screen, for its natural look and cleaner whites. The Samsung is much more responsive and virtually lag free. Either one is great.
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semperlux said:
Yeah… LOL! I thought I'd get flamed for complimenting IOS's GUI.
We're an Apple family (iPhones, iPods, MBPro, Mac Mini) and I'm the only Android user. What I mean by GUI is Apple's approach to simplicity and user fluidity. Those are all things that I liked when I used MIUI on my first EVO. It's not that I like the screens of cloned icons--yeah, that's boring. I just like how smooth everything works on iPhones and iPods--you can't deny it, it's buttery smooth! When designing user interfaces, it's often the little things that matter and Apple really seems to pay attention to that. I don't see the point of widgets, I get what they are but I don't find them useful enough to keep, like MIUI. The PANDORA widget works sometimes and I have to go into the app to remind it to play! LOL.
I'm not bashing Anrdroid or the EVO--I bought another one that I'd really like to keep. But I also appreciate what other manufacturers do. The EVO 4G LTE has fluidity in some ways especially when using Chrome--wow!
I Googled "EVO 4G LTE jelly bean" and found a bunch of posts at other android websites where some users expressed the EVO LTE might now get JB, too many to post.
Ok, thanks all for your replies--and yeah, I'll probably be rooting this phone if I keep it (probably will) just like all the other Androids I've rooted.
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please link some of these. otherwise its nothing but hogwash. you actually think a FLAGSHIP PHONE thats less than 2 months old wont get JB? Thats just crazy talk.
i googled " evo 4g lte jelly bean" and im 4 pages in. nothing about the phone NOT getting JB. You may be misreading or misunderstanding that people are saying they dont think the phone will get it ''this year'' or the phone wont get it until ''spring of next year'' But nowhere have I see it say ''no jellybean for the htc evo 4g lte'' so i do beg of you to post some links.
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please link some of these. otherwise its nothing but hogwash. you actually think a FLAGSHIP PHONE thats less than 2 months old wont get JB? Thats just crazy talk.
i googled " evo 4g lte jelly bean" and im 4 pages in. nothing about the phone NOT getting JB. You may be misreading or misunderstanding that people are saying they dont think the phone will get it ''this year'' or the phone wont get it until ''spring of next year'' But nowhere have I see it say ''no jellybean for the htc evo 4g lte'' so i do beg of you to post some links.
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I agree that it's crazy talk, but that's why I asked. I trust the opinions of the XDA community as its never let me down in the two years that I've been lurking and posting. I tried to find the one article that I read it on and now I can't find it. But that's ok... I believe the user may have been ranting about HTC+Sprint lagging on OTAs. Regardless, that's why I asked XDA.
LOL, it's looking less likely that I'm returning this device.