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Okay so I have a fascinate. This past weekend I was able to root my phone, install numerous different roms, and try different kernels. I decided I wanted to go back to stock, and start over with a clean rom and no lag fix. I did the 3 ODIN file's and when I got my phone up and running it says I have 0.0mb free space on my phone, so I cannot install anything. I also tried using the Stock Nandroid Image and cleared the data and cache and everything. To no avail I cannot free up any space. Please help!! I dont know what to do. My phone has 0.0mb free space on the built in card and I cant do anything now. Someone please help!!!
There are at least 4 other threads with this same issue and a thread with a fix. Please look around a little before posting. I am on my phone or I would post a link.
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Here's the link to one of those threads. As stated above it always helps to search first this thread was on the third page so not too hard to find. I don't mean to sound like an ass but the mods are stretched slim so we have a lot of nonsense threads asking the same question.
Here's the link and best of luck! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804457&highlight=fixed
Thanks DD, was trying to find and post link from my phone and it's not so easy.
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ty guys. i found that right after i posted. i just wish i knew which one fixed it. ill try from the beginning lol
yeah, when it happened to me I ran through the whole thing. it happens when you don't remove voodoo properly. the /data partition is still in ext4 format and a nonvoodoo kernel can't read ext4. if that makes any sense...
it does somewhat. Doesnt help that im over tired. And i dont know what have the crap means on this remove voodoo thread either lol
Your welcome Skywalker and jr I'm not much of help ever but I do what I can when needed any luck as of yet jr?
about to do the uninstaller for the voodoo. I have no idea how to do the manual mode, so i hope this uninstaller works !!
fml said some error for update.zip. Gunna copy it back over. Might give it a break for a bit, im so tired lol
i think my phone is shot. I put update.zip on my sdcard and its giving me an error when i try to run it through clockwork
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804784
i need help, i have no idea what those commands mean
woohoo i got it!!
hi,thats me rooted my galaxy so whats the next step ? i have superuser & darkyrom 2 installed & added the zimage to sdcard and installed it,whats the best apps etc to install now im rooted & how do i install the custom roms to give my phone a better look ?
any advice would be most gratefull as im new to this rooting
kenf2210 said:
hi,thats me rooted my galaxy so whats the next step ? i have superuser & darkyrom 2 installed & added the zimage to sdcard and installed it,whats the best apps etc to install now im rooted & how do i install the custom roms to give my phone a better look ?
any advice would be most gratefull as im new to this rooting
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The plan is to choose a ROM which suits your preferences, e.g. no homescreen lag, better camera apk, better access to the CPU. Try a few, I use Villianrom, which suits me really but there are loads more.
Enjoy
First is first
Backup ur efs
Then titanium
Then cwm full backup
This will keep u busy for today, you'll thank me later
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hi,as i said im new to this rooting,how do i do those things ? ive looked at cwm is that only accessible through reboot hold volume up,power & home button ?whats backup efs ?? and is titanium the app which is £4.99
kenf2210 said:
hi,as i said im new to this rooting,how do i do those things ? ive looked at cwm is that only accessible through reboot hold volume up,power & home button ?whats backup efs ?? and is titanium the app which is £4.99
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your /efs folder is in comparison to apps, data etc. the most important thing to backup since it is the only thing that cannot be restored without a proper backup if it is screwed up by a bad flash. it basically contains your product code, imei and other sensible phone related data. you can backup it easily with hellcat's kTool app from market. For safety reasons you should copy your /efs backup img from your sdcard to your pc afterwards.
Concerning your other questions, just read through the few stickies in the general and android original dev. section. all what you look for is explained there very detailed.
kenf2210 said:
hi,as i said im new to this rooting,how do i do those things ? ive looked at cwm is that only accessible through reboot hold volume up,power & home button ?whats backup efs ?? and is titanium the app which is £4.99
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If u rooted with cf kernel n haven't flashed another then yes, up+home+power >back up. Use hellcats k tool to back up efs (its on market or his thread in dev section) titanium back up is the 1st thing that comes up if you search 'titanium' on market the pro version is costs but is worth it.
Seriously tho, if you're new to android and have never rooted, give it a few weeks first otherwise you won't know what is 'better' and if you don't and end up having problems with roms you'll end up crying that you should have got an Iclone.. Just my opinion from observing this forum for a while
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hofinho said:
your /efs folder is in comparison to apps, data etc. the most important thing to backup since it is the only thing that cannot be restored without a proper backup if it is screwed up by a bad flash. it basically contains your product code, imei and other sensible phone related data. you can backup it easily with hellcat's kTool app from market. For safety reasons you should copy your /efs backup img from your sdcard to your pc afterwards.
Concerning your other questions, just read through the few stickies in the general and android original dev. section. all what you look for is explained there very detailed.
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Damn... Beat me to it
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hi,this rooting seems pretty confusing as i used to be an iphone user and jailbreaking was simple but this seems to be difficult to follow,ive been looking around the forum for step by step guide on how to install roms etc but just cant find them,would like to test this out to see if it was worth rooting but at the moment its done nothing for me or the phone its just added another few apps,it seems to me like its a lot of hassle to get different roms etc onto the phone & whats radio etc do i need to update other stuff when i try to put roms on & kernels whats that all about ????sorry chaps but im clueless to all this stuff maybe i should have stayed with apple.
and the efs backup has been done with hellcat & when connected to pc there is no backup file on my sd card ??
kenf2210 said:
hi,this rooting seems pretty confusing as i used to be an iphone user and jailbreaking was simple but this seems to be difficult to follow
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My advice is to stay away from flashing ROMs, kernels and rooting.
Use it like you used your iPhone, install games and apps from the Android Market and enjoy your phone.
Unless you've seen something you particularly want from any of the above, the risks for you are not worth it.
thinking that myself mate but how do i put the phone back to the way it was before i rooted ?
how to remove the root & go back to original way
As far as I can tell, you haven't said how you rooted - looks like you flashed a different, pre-rooted kernel. There's not a big risk staying rooted, just take extra care if you install something and you get a popup on your phone telling you it's asking for root (superuser request).
it was this
DooMLoRD_v2_ROOT-zergRush-busybox-su.zip
and installed zimage to my sd card and installed onto phone so i have superuser and darkyrom2 installed ive done nothing else.
mucking around with roms & kernels etc seem a load of hassle & dont want to destroy the phone with wrongly installed roms etc & what happens when a new update come out through kies ? do i just install it or what ?
can i not just remove the root by doing a factory reset or something ?
Of course you can easily completely revert back to your original set-up. For doing that just type *#1234# in your dialer and post here the output. I or someone else can point you to your original rom.
BUT you will never get a taste of in my opinion the greatest advantage of android: it's customability.
I promise you, you won't regret the effort it takes to educate yourself a bit about the basic knowledge you need, to do all the cool stuff which is only possible rooted. It is enough to spend some time to read regulary here on xda and you will see that everything is really not that hard. You don't have to fear, it is almost impossible to brick your phone if you just have a backup of your /efs folder, don't flash the firmware of another device on your phone and don't disconnect your usb cable in the one second a different bootloader gets flashed. I have flashed and hardcore abused my sgs1 more then 500 times (no exaggeration, i am a dev for sgs1 ) and my sgs2 also very often. Everything ( while testing stuff i went through scary errors and a literally death phone more than once) is recoverable except in the three situations i mentioned above. And you can ALWAYS go back to stock later on no matter what you have messed up.
Have a look again at the content of your sdcards (also in folders and subfolders), the efs.img or .tar has to be somewhere there, save it on your pc and the party can be started
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And because i am a nice guy and don't want you to go back to apple here my advice for your first custom rom :
1. Follow exactly the instructions there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Take your time to read through, everything is explained very well
2. Then you are ready to flash your first custom rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288850
this is in my opinion the most stable atm. Read through the first posts, download the 2.9 zip from the post, copy it to your internal sd
3. Switch your device off and boot into recovery by pressing and holding volume up, home and power button at the same time until samsung gti9100 appears on the screen (about 5 sec.), then release the three buttons and you are in recovery mode. You can navigate with vol up and vol down and power or home button in the recovery mode. Navigate to "install from sdcard"/"choose zip from sdcard" and then select the file you have downloaded. Confirm and relax. That's all... easy or?
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thanks for your help mate i really appreciate it,i would like to give the root a go & see if i can get the roms working etc im just scared that i muck it up, i suppose i will just need to be patient & try this out,first is to find this ems backup on my phone so i can save to my pc,ive plugged it in & its on coming up sd card & not internal memory ? any idea why that is ?
its cool about last bit ive just plugged it in again & ive found the efs.img
& is this the rom Hyperdroid Androidmeda v2.9.0 ?
kenf2210 said:
thanks for your help mate i really appreciate it,i would like to give the root a go & see if i can get the roms working etc im just scared that i muck it up, i suppose i will just need to be patient & try this out,first is to find this ems backup on my phone so i can save to my pc,ive plugged it in & its on coming up sd card & not internal memory ? any idea why that is ?
its cool about last bit ive just plugged it in again & ive found the efs.img
& is this the rom Hyperdroid Androidmeda v2.9.0 ?
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The efs.img is stored where hellcat directed it to, i just didn't remember where. but yes it is the right file.
Yes this is the rom. You will be surprised about the speed difference compared to stock
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hi,done it mate thanks for your help,up & running with my first rom yippeee,i take it that i can only put certain roms on the phone ? & what happens with samsung kies if it come up with new firmware update what do i do ?
kenf2210 said:
hi,done it mate thanks for your help,up & running with my first rom yippeee,i take it that i can only put certain roms on the phone ? & what happens with samsung kies if it come up with new firmware update what do i do ?
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From now on you can easily forget about kies, roms here will mostly provide newest firmware long before it is out via kies. Also with odin you can always much more comfortable flash the same firmware as comes over kies.
You can flash any rom you want as long as it is for your device (gt i9100).
As i said, take your time and read across the forum and always follow the thread about the rom you run and your knowledge will improve from alone have fun bro
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hi,im thinking about trying a diffrent rom on my phone,i have this rom at the moment
[ROM][2.3.5][26NOV'11]δ-HyperDroid-Androidmeda-v3.0[Ker:TJKv1.0| Update3 |2.6.35.14]
is there anything better looking out there as this rom didnt seem to change much look wise,and what about themes ? can i put them on the phone ?
also if i install a new rom will it take everything of the phone apps etc ?
See the pics attached:
I use this method
(from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034145):
"
E. Rooting for 2.3.3/2.3.4/2.3.5 (Thanks to russian forum-user with nickname may213):
1) Download attached file called upd_1.zip and copy it to your sdcard
2) Turn off your phone
3) Press POWER+HOME BUTTON
4) Select update from sdcard, select the file upd_1.zip
5) After the update completed - reboot
6) Now you have rooted S5830
"
before rooting, I've done this———“How to force install apps to SD card without ROOT!!!”, does this affect my rooting?
Try to mount/system and data then flash again.
tried, still can't. thx anyway.
Problem solved!!
I find this article "How to root Samsung Galaxy Ace on Froyo & Gingerbread
"acetips.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/root-ace-froyo-gingerbread/"
I follow the note:
"Those who are getting errors and cant root their phone , Download this file “AceGingerRoot.zip” and use it instead of “upd_1.zip”"
download the file “AceGingerRoot.zip".
and successfull!!!!
I don't know why, but again, it's successful!
I'm sorry, I thought my problem solved.
coz I saw the update completed and the superuser icon in the app drawer.
But when I try to open Titanium Backup, it says my ROM is not rooted.
Still need help!
and my phone is locked to my carrier,
does it affect the rooting?
really need help!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so frustrated!!!
Lol. I had the exact same problem! Are you intending to install cm7? Whatever I did that update pack would not root for me... I ended up flashing clockwork mod ace, a recovery just for the ace. I've heard that the regular ROM Manager can brick this phone. Then installed cm7 without having the root permission in Gingerbread. You can do it just by placing the Rom on the SD and using the install zip from sd option. You will want to make a backup before you do this. Also check if you can find your providers APN values online for setting up mobile data. Worked for me. Do I like cm7? It is good, very customizable. However, do not expect something as polished as the firmware without a bit of effort to figure out the options.
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And no, being locked to a carrier does not affect rooting your phone.
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you can try CF-root
You should also have a look at the topic on this forum "(Q) GTS5830B root?" I think it may be applicable to you. Some stuff about changing the script in the update.zip pack to match the model of your Ace.
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yes, I got the problem exactly same as this thread""(Q) GTS5830B root?" " but I don't understand how to solve it using the method mentioned in that thread.
Actually, I'm not only just a noob, also, ace is my first smartphone.
I tried to figure out all the new words, apps, systems I had to use to get my Ace to customize as my wish.
I'll managed to solve my problem by figuring out the approach that thread mentioned. If I can't, I'll probably try CM7(another new thing to learn).
Thank you for your hint, at least now, I saw the hope out there.
I've tried these 2:
1. edit "updater-script" by changing "GT-S5830" to "GT-S5830T"(my model number), it doesn't work, aborted.
2. delete the "assert", it worked, update completed.
But,
Still,
when I try to open titanium or root uninstaller,
they all say "it is not rooted" after updating was successful.
I just don't get it. WHY?????
I tried to unroot, coz I thought maybe I can get rid of the useless superuser app got from updating "“AceGingerRoot.zip” ", and then I will give modified "update.zip" another try.
However, it's so funny that the superuser app is still there after updating unroot.zip successfully(at least that's what the screen says).
Can I recovery to the stock state by using the recovery mode? so I can get rid of all these stuff and start again!
Okay, you have EXACTLY the same problem I did. You could try SuperOnceClick. It never worked for me, but it might be worth a try before giving up. There is a good Tutorial on it here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
When that didn't work I just installed CyanogenMod-7.1-RC1Cooper-Grif_07 and moved on with my life. You can get it to look just like Gingerbread, but you will loose all your Samsung stuff, and your GPS might not be able to get a fix. Sorry...
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Yes, if you made a back-up before you started. It is really easy, it just takes a few min... Without a backup you would need to download the original firmware.
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Lol. I had the exact same problem! Are you intending to install cm7? Whatever I did that update pack would not root for me... I ended up flashing clockwork mod ace, a recovery just for the ace. I've heard that the regular ROM Manager can brick this phone. Then installed cm7 without having the root permission in Gingerbread. You can do it just by placing the Rom on the SD and using the install zip from sd option. You will want to make a backup before you do this. Also check if you can find your providers APN values online for setting up mobile data. Worked for me. Do I like cm7? It is good, very customizable. However, do not expect something as polished as the firmware without a bit of effort to figure out the options.
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Could you tell you where you got the cm7 and the tutorial? I need to make sure I can install CM7 on my ACE. THX.
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Okay, you have EXACTLY the same problem I did. You could try SuperOnceClick. It never worked for me, but it might be worth a try before giving up. There is a good Tutorial on it here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
When that didn't work I just installed CyanogenMod-7.1-RC1Cooper-Grif_07 and moved on with my life. You can get it to look just like Gingerbread, but you will loose all your Samsung stuff, and your GPS might not be able to get a fix. Sorry...
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Yes, if you made a back-up before you started. It is really easy, it just takes a few min... Without a backup you would need to download the original firmware.
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I've heard cannot get backup by using clockwork recovery if it's not rooted. Am I wrong about it?
and I thought SuperOnceClick is for Froyo and not for ACE?
When I installed I was so MAD that I was ready to smash the phone, so honestly I never backed up before installing CM7. You can go ahead and try. The worst that can happen is nothing. If you're flashing CM7 and you absolutely hate it you can always reset back to the factory ROM by downloading and installing it. There is a full Tutorial here including links to everything you need! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263292
SuperOneClick worked on my P500h running 2.3.3...
Thank you.
I'll give it a try tomorrow, and see how it goes.
Been reading/researching for the last week or two; and the solid info keeps leading me back here to xda!
As a long time personal system builder with some OC'ing experience and flight sim beta testing, I'm starting my trek to the dark side of these android phones.
Just upgraded the wife from an original razr to the X2, and she's perfectly happy. I'm waiting on Santa for a new Droid Razr. So, my plan is to get started on the X2 with the goal of rooting it, then immediately doing a backup using Moon Shadow's excellent stickys along with the help of anyone else that wishes to post. Thinking the X2 experience should help to calm my nerves once I really get into the Razr.
Couple of questions that are sticking in my mind right now are:
Am I understanding the stickys correctly that I should be doing the nandroid backup immediately after rooting? This includes backing up before installing any optional apps such as TI, etc?
In Moon Shadow's Nandroid and Backup Recovery, it's recommended to use Dropbox to get the Recovery APK over on the phone and installed. Any other methods that will work equally well? Would a simple copy/paste of the APK to the sd card suffice? Or would I at least need some sort of apk "installer" to finish the install?
Also, any other apps to keep this X2 lean and clean so as to make it as simple and pain free as possible for the wife? She likes simple/easy to use. I'll be providing tech support and keeping it as optimal as possible.
I'll close this long ass post with a simple THANK YOU to all the members/devs here on xda for tolerating us "noobs" and providing a wealth of info for those wishing to learn the "right" way!
A nandroid is a good idea after rooting imo. Although you can always sbf back to stock if need be. The reason it's a good idea is if you are going to remove stock apps yourself, you can restore back to stock rooted if you remove something important that screws up your phone.
You can copy/paste the apk to your sdcard, no problem. You'll want a file browser to get to it and install. Personally I like Root Browser, Root Explorer, or Astro. You should be able to install through any of those.
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WVULTRA said:
Been reading/researching for the last week or two; and the solid info keeps leading me back here to xda!
As a long time personal system builder with some OC'ing experience and flight sim beta testing, I'm starting my trek to the dark side of these android phones.
Just upgraded the wife from an original razr to the X2, and she's perfectly happy. I'm waiting on Santa for a new Droid Razr. So, my plan is to get started on the X2 with the goal of rooting it, then immediately doing a backup using Moon Shadow's excellent stickys along with the help of anyone else that wishes to post. Thinking the X2 experience should help to calm my nerves once I really get into the Razr.
Couple of questions that are sticking in my mind right now are:
Am I understanding the stickys correctly that I should be doing the nandroid backup immediately after rooting? This includes backing up before installing any optional apps such as TI, etc?
In Moon Shadow's Nandroid and Backup Recovery, it's recommended to use Dropbox to get the Recovery APK over on the phone and installed. Any other methods that will work equally well? Would a simple copy/paste of the APK to the sd card suffice? Or would I at least need some sort of apk "installer" to finish the install?
Also, any other apps to keep this X2 lean and clean so as to make it as simple and pain free as possible for the wife? She likes simple/easy to use. I'll be providing tech support and keeping it as optimal as possible.
I'll close this long ass post with a simple THANK YOU to all the members/devs here on xda for tolerating us "noobs" and providing a wealth of info for those wishing to learn the "right" way!
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First I'd just like to say welcome. You're in for a good time. Nandroids are just good to keep as a refference point so that if your phone gets messed up you can just restore the backed up image vs having to sbf, reroot etc. You are more than welcome to install any apps you would like before a nandroid backup but I recommended doing it before you flash anything or start making modifications that require root permissions.
As far as the recovery Apk is concerned, I just keep it on my external SD, that way I can just find it with root explorer or a similar directory app and install it from there. Very simple. There is no installer app needed, just turn on the setting that allows third party apps, select it within the directory and you should be given the option to install.
Not really sure what you need to keep everything simple. Maybe some specifics would help. I could suggest looking into different Widgets so you can have access to certain things right on the homescreen.
Glad to see you here!
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I do nand backups regularly and delete the old(usually keep 2 most recent just in case) to keep up to date and before changing roms or updating. you can also restore just the data if you go into Advanced Restore and choose data restore as long as your previous rom you did the backup on and the current rom you are restoring it to are on the same version (2.2.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5+ are all different). Its typically not required to restore when updating although some roms will in earlier testing stages sometimes or if a drastic change occurs to the rom but its a good idea to back it up prior just in case.
As far as apk files are concerned the easiest way for me to keep them is emailed to myself through gmail because you can install the app straight from your email without having to download it to the phone(there will be an install button in the body of the email when checking it from your phone). You can email them to yourself on the computer and move them to a special file to save space on your internal or external sd and keep the files for whenever you might need them.
As far as "keeping it clean"...just flash a clean rom and choose a script you can find and read about in the development section that will tailor your needs best. in my opinion apps that are made to save battery, free memory, and keep programs from running only make the phone slower and use more battery because those types of apps will always be running and therefore counterproductive. There are some good root apps out(search "root" on market) that help out a good deal, but they are few and far between imo. Just find what you like(or she likes), the more you find out about these phones the more uses you find in it.
Good luck
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A nandroid is a good idea after rooting imo. Although you can always sbf back to stock if need be. The reason it's a good idea is if you are going to remove stock apps yourself, you can restore back to stock rooted if you remove something important that screws up your phone.
You can copy/paste the apk to your sdcard, no problem. You'll want a file browser to get to it and install. Personally I like Root Browser, Root Explorer, or Astro. You should be able to install through any of those.
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hitman:
Yes, at this point I'd prefer to restore back to stock rooted vs. sbf; and it's good to know I've got both as options.
Right now leaning towards Root Explorer.
Thanks for your feedback!
CadenH said:
First I'd just like to say welcome. You're in for a good time. Nandroids are just good to keep as a refference point so that if your phone gets messed up you can just restore the backed up image vs having to sbf, reroot etc. You are more than welcome to install any apps you would like before a nandroid backup but I recommended doing it before you flash anything or start making modifications that require root permissions.
As far as the recovery Apk is concerned, I just keep it on my external SD, that way I can just find it with root explorer or a similar directory app and install it from there. Very simple. There is no installer app needed, just turn on the setting that allows third party apps, select it within the directory and you should be given the option to install.
Not really sure what you need to keep everything simple. Maybe some specifics would help. I could suggest looking into different Widgets so you can have access to certain things right on the homescreen.
Glad to see you here!
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CadenH:
Thanks for the welcome. Truly appreciated!
Glad to hear the simplified procedure for installing the apk. I'm sure once I get it rooted, and a solid backup saved, I'll take some time to evaluate what to add app wise along with the Widgets.
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I do nand backups regularly and delete the old(usually keep 2 most recent just in case) to keep up to date and before changing roms or updating. you can also restore just the data if you go into Advanced Restore and choose data restore as long as your previous rom you did the backup on and the current rom you are restoring it to are on the same version (2.2.2, 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5+ are all different). Its typically not required to restore when updating although some roms will in earlier testing stages sometimes or if a drastic change occurs to the rom but its a good idea to back it up prior just in case.
As far as apk files are concerned the easiest way for me to keep them is emailed to myself through gmail because you can install the app straight from your email without having to download it to the phone(there will be an install button in the body of the email when checking it from your phone). You can email them to yourself on the computer and move them to a special file to save space on your internal or external sd and keep the files for whenever you might need them.
As far as "keeping it clean"...just flash a clean rom and choose a script you can find and read about in the development section that will tailor your needs best. in my opinion apps that are made to save battery, free memory, and keep programs from running only make the phone slower and use more battery because those types of apps will always be running and therefore counterproductive. There are some good root apps out(search "root" on market) that help out a good deal, but they are few and far between imo. Just find what you like(or she likes), the more you find out about these phones the more uses you find in it.
Good luck
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xerotix:
From my reading/research I have it burned to memory to always stay with the same version when restoring! Her X2 is currently on 2.3.4 via the OTA update.
Good idea on using the gmail account! Had no idea this way was an option.
Once I get over the initial shock of getting it rooted and backedup, I'm sure I'll look at a custom ROM if she allows it. Just need to do additional research on how to choose the right ROM for her needs. And right now, I'm totally in the dark on choosing a "script"; but I'll also learn this as I go.
Thanks for your feedback!
Preliminary Game Plan
At this point, I've put together an initial game plan. Currently have on the desktop pc: Pete's Root Tools v1.07, RSD Lite v5.6 along with the GB 2.3.4 SBF, and the MOTO_Bootstrap_signed.rar (apk).
Please feel free to confirm or correct my plan.
1. Root the phone via Moon Shadow's X2 Tutorial using Pete's v1.07.
2. Once Pete's tool gives me confirmation that the phone is rooted, upgrade SU and Busybox via the Market. Sure would like a confirmation on this step!
3. Prior to the backup, copy the Droid X2 Recovery APK over to the external sd card, dl Root Explorer which is going to let me "install" the Recovery APK.
4. Follow Moon Shadow's X2 nandroid/backup Tutorial by launching the Recovery APK and following his Backup prodedure.
5. My plan is to backup to the external sd card so I can also keep a copy on the desktop along with one on an external thumb drive. Sorry if I sound too redundant!
A few of the apps I plan on purchasing/dl'ing (don't mind contributing small $ for the pro/pay versions as I hope it thanks them for their hard work and encourages continued upgrades) are:
TI Backup Pro
Root Explorer (File Manager)
My Backup Pro (for the wife's contacts, messages, photos, etc.)
Again, all feedback/corrections/confirmations will be appreciated!
Thanks!
WVULTRA said:
At this point, I've put together an initial game plan. Currently have on the desktop pc: Pete's Root Tools v1.07, RSD Lite v5.6 along with the GB 2.3.4 SBF, and the MOTO_Bootstrap_signed.rar (apk).
Please feel free to confirm or correct my plan.
1. Root the phone via Moon Shadow's X2 Tutorial using Pete's v1.07.
2. Once Pete's tool gives me confirmation that the phone is rooted, upgrade SU and Busybox via the Market. Sure would like a confirmation on this step!
3. Prior to the backup, copy the Droid X2 Recovery APK over to the external sd card, dl Root Explorer which is going to let me "install" the Recovery APK.
4. Follow Moon Shadow's X2 nandroid/backup Tutorial by launching the Recovery APK and following his Backup prodedure.
5. My plan is to backup to the external sd card so I can also keep a copy on the desktop along with one on an external thumb drive. Sorry if I sound too redundant!
A few of the apps I plan on purchasing/dl'ing (don't mind contributing small $ for the pro/pay versions as I hope it thanks them for their hard work and encourages continued upgrades) are:
TI Backup Pro
Root Explorer (File Manager)
My Backup Pro (for the wife's contacts, messages, photos, etc.)
Again, all feedback/corrections/confirmations will be appreciated!
Thanks!
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YES GET ROOT EXPLORER
it will.make ur.life SO MUCH EASIER in the.long run. You will definitely get your moneys worth within the first 2weeks of using it. Simple UI and very efficient set-up. All u need for a root file explorer. BEST choice
I don't use TI backup...
Anything TI does can be done manually by using root explorer to copy apks to sdcard..
I lied...ti can backup data for apps as well...but I have seen problems arise sometimes...I just personally don't use it...
I recommend bloat freezer if u plan on freezing any apps ...it is like dipping the apps in liquid nitrogen...best app freezer available PERIOD...((TI "freezes" as well but uses a different process and some apps don't "freeze" all the way))) ur choice tho experimentation is KEY and us the main point have fun with it..as long as u have a nandroid or sbf file u are good to try TONS of stuff knowing u will be able to get back easily.
Can't comment on "my backup pro" but I can say that if u store your contacts synced to google and/or backup assistant that they will always be available to u. They get backed up to an o line account (gmail for google...myverizonwirelessc.com>>>backup assistant ))) photos get stored on sdcard and shouldn't be deleted unless u choose to format sd cards.
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Oh...and updating the superuser app itself isn't necessary ....good idea to update its binary tho....but do NOT worry bout it....the first time u grant SU permission to something it will ask u if u want to update the binary and u can just press the notification in the pulldown window to do it....
Busybox ----. U can if u want to.
But if u flash eclipse it comes with busybox 1.19.gitadrynaline...
Not sure what is installed when initially rooted...never checked...
if u want to update I recommend that version...I've never had any issues with it. And it isn't an app. It is installed to system/xbin I believe....it allows for different commands/scripts to work properly....someone can explain better than me if u need to know what it does...
u can update busybox via busybox installer from market....there are a couple...most are pretty fond of the one made by jrummy ....
HAVE FUN TWEAKING AND WELCOME
ashclepdia said:
YES GET ROOT EXPLORER
it will.make ur.life SO MUCH EASIER in the.long run. You will definitely get your moneys worth within the first 2weeks of using it. Simple UI and very efficient set-up. All u need for a root file explorer. BEST choice
I don't use TI backup...
Anything TI does can be done manually by using root explorer to copy apks to sdcard..
I lied...ti can backup data for apps as well...but I have seen problems arise sometimes...I just personally don't use it...
I recommend bloat freezer if u plan on freezing any apps ...it is like dipping the apps in liquid nitrogen...best app freezer available PERIOD...((TI "freezes" as well but uses a different process and some apps don't "freeze" all the way))) ur choice tho experimentation is KEY and us the main point have fun with it..as long as u have a nandroid or sbf file u are good to try TONS of stuff knowing u will be able to get back easily.
Can't comment on "my backup pro" but I can say that if u store your contacts synced to google and/or backup assistant that they will always be available to u. They get backed up to an o line account (gmail for google...myverizonwirelessc.com>>>backup assistant ))) photos get stored on sdcard and shouldn't be deleted unless u choose to format sd cards.
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Oh...and updating the superuser app itself isn't necessary ....good idea to update its binary tho....but do NOT worry bout it....the first time u grant SU permission to something it will ask u if u want to update the binary and u can just press the notification in the pulldown window to do it....
Busybox ----. U can if u want to.
But if u flash eclipse it comes with busybox 1.19.gitadrynaline...
Not sure what is installed when initially rooted...never checked...
if u want to update I recommend that version...I've never had any issues with it. And it isn't an app. It is installed to system/xbin I believe....it allows for different commands/scripts to work properly....someone can explain better than me if u need to know what it does...
u can update busybox via busybox installer from market....there are a couple...most are pretty fond of the one made by jrummy ....
HAVE FUN TWEAKING AND WELCOME
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ash:
Thanks for all the detailed info! Things have been hectic the last few days, so my plan is to get started this weekend when I have plenty of un-interrupted time.
Really looking forward to this, and I'll post my results back once I've made some progress.
Truly appreciate the feedback!
No problem
Hahaha I didn't realize how long that.post actually got lol.
Sometimes I ramble and go on tangents so if I confused ya at any point don't hesitate to ask me to clarify
If you get titanium then you should probably pass on my backup pro, it'd be redundant as titanium can backup user data like texts and progress in games etc. just setup a regular backup schedule in TiBu and you'll be good to go.
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ashclepdia said:
No problem
Hahaha I didn't realize how long that.post actually got lol.
Sometimes I ramble and go on tangents so if I confused ya at any point don't hesitate to ask me to clarify
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ash:
On the contrary, I'm one of those noobs that enjoys detailed info! And, if I get confused I will ask more questions!
TU!
juhde said:
If you get titanium then you should probably pass on my backup pro, it'd be redundant as titanium can backup user data like texts and progress in games etc. just setup a regular backup schedule in TiBu and you'll be good to go.
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juhde:
Thanks for pointing that out! My concern was to have solid/secure backups of everything important along with the wife's contacts, messages, etc, etc, etc, so if I screw up the I can retrieve everything she uses daily/regularly.
Will do some more research on the apps once I get the root and nandroid bu secure.
Thanks again!
YES GET ROOT EXPLORER
it will.make ur.life SO MUCH EASIER in the.long run. You will definitely get your moneys worth within the first 2weeks of using it. Simple UI and very efficient set-up. All u need for a root file explorer. BEST choice
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ash: since it appears your familiar with Root Explorer, I'm wondering if the app allows me to use it on other phones I own without having to pay for it again? I sent an inquirey to speedsoftware.co.uk, and their reply didn't really answer my question.
With TiBU Pro, they mail you a "key" and once the free version is installed on another phone, placing the .txt key file in the correct folder allows another phone to have the premium version.
At least that's my understanding.........
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ash: since it appears your familiar with Root Explorer, I'm wondering if the app allows me to use it on other phones I own without having to pay for it again? I sent an inquirey to speedsoftware.co.uk, and their reply didn't really answer my question.
With TiBU Pro, they mail you a "key" and once the free version is installed on another phone, placing the .txt key file in the correct folder allows another phone to have the premium version.
At least that's my understanding.........
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As long as the market on both phones is linked to the same account. You should be good. Just like buying a new phone. All your paid apps are still there to download again.
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WVULTRA said:
ash: since it appears your familiar with Root Explorer, I'm wondering if the app allows me to use it on other phones I own without having to pay for it again? I sent an inquirey to speedsoftware.co.uk, and their reply didn't really answer my question.
With TiBU Pro, they mail you a "key" and once the free version is installed on another phone, placing the .txt key file in the correct folder allows another phone to have the premium version.
At least that's my understanding.........
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Yeah what he said.
U just need to have the gmail account u bought it with associated wit the new phone.
Rooted!
Wanted to follow up and let everyone know that I got the wife's X2 rooted following Moon Shadow's excellent Tutorials; and it worked perfectly! After rooting, I updated SU and Busybox through the market. After installing/launching the bootstrap apk, was able to do a complete nandroid following the BU/Restore Tutorial. Had one hiccup that was self-induced while attempting to start the system recovery, but removing the battery and rebooting allowed my second attemp to work flawlessly.
A big THANKS for everyone's help and support. Have to say TiBU and Root Explorer are definitely recommended apps. Have removed/froze most of the bloat listed here at the forum and have been backing up along the way. Phone is working fine.
Now, to continue my research on considering a custom ROM like Eclipse......
Thanks again!
WVULTRA said:
Wanted to follow up and let everyone know that I got the wife's X2 rooted following Moon Shadow's excellent Tutorials; and it worked perfectly! After rooting, I updated SU and Busybox through the market. After installing/launching the bootstrap apk, was able to do a complete nandroid following the BU/Restore Tutorial. Had one hiccup that was self-induced while attempting to start the system recovery, but removing the battery and rebooting allowed my second attemp to work flawlessly.
A big THANKS for everyone's help and support. Have to say TiBU and Root Explorer are definitely recommended apps. Have removed/froze most of the bloat listed here at the forum and have been backing up along the way. Phone is working fine.
Now, to continue my research on considering a custom ROM like Eclipse......
Thanks again!
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Congrats
Let the fun begin!
Don't get left in the dark flash eclipse lol
Have fun in ur research. Reading and learning is one of the best parts doing this stuff..you will feel bit overwhelmed at first until you realize how "simple" things can be.
One bit of.knowledge for ya ---i... HIGHLY recommend that you use Bloat /CIQ freezer from.market for freezing any apps https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bloatfreezer.free
trust me on this. It will freeze apps better than TI does. I have read before and noticed first hand((I only used TI twice)) that some apps still run when frozen with TI. Those same apps when frozen with bloat freezer are like solid ice cubes floating in liquid nitrogen. They WILL NOT run until defrosted.
And if I want to remove any apps I just use root explorer to move the apk to my external sd card if I want a backup or I just straight delete it if I don't want it at all.
Have fun!
ashclepdia said:
Congrats
Let the fun begin!
Don't get left in the dark flash eclipse lol
Have fun in ur research. Reading and learning is one of the best parts doing this stuff..you will feel bit overwhelmed at first until you realize how "simple" things can be.
One bit of.knowledge for ya ---i... HIGHLY recommend that you use Bloat /CIQ freezer from.market for freezing any apps https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bloatfreezer.free
trust me on this. It will freeze apps better than TI does. I have read before and noticed first hand((I only used TI twice)) that some apps still run when frozen with TI. Those same apps when frozen with bloat freezer are like solid ice cubes floating in liquid nitrogen. They WILL NOT run until defrosted.
And if I want to remove any apps I just use root explorer to move the apk to my external sd card if I want a backup or I just straight delete it if I don't want it at all.
Have fun!
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ash:
Appreciate the info on bloatfreezer! Even though I've got TuBU Pro, I realize after a few uses that I'm more comfortable with root explorer! And I have noticed a couple of apps that are frozen but still appear in the apps listing.
I'll definitely consider bloatfreezer once I've determined if it can coexist (for my use) with TiBU or should I uninstall TiBU first.
Thanks!
Hey there guys I came across this useful tool today when I was poking around the ARC section it lets you make a nandroid without having to boot into recovery. This isnt my work Im simply passing it on so I hope he doesnt care too much about me posting this here.
***ALL crdeit goes to ameer1234567890***
Nandroid backups are usually performed in recovery mode. This means you would have to turn off your phone and reboot in recovery mode, which wastes a whole lot of time rebooting and a lot more time offline. For me, this has been a killer as I do regular nandroid backups. Having to reboot in recovery and finding missed calls, sms from my wife and friends is totally not accepatable for me. So, I set to develop an online nandroid backup tool which can do nandroid backups without switching off my phone.
Today, I am releasing it to public, as it may serve good for some others too. This tool is specifically for Xperia phones, but should work with any model of android phones.
This tool backups /system , /data , /cache & .android_secure partiotions to /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup directory. The date format used for folder name is the same used by CWM itself and nandroid backups created with this tool can safely be restored using CWM. If you would want to have a custom name for backup folder, pass an argument with the name to the script and it will use the name.
Feedback (especially ideas to improve) are most welcome.
Requirements
1. Rooted android phone
2. A terminal emulator installed on phone
3. Busybox
4. A working CWM based recovery installed
5. Some patience
Installation
1. Download and copy zip file to SD card
2. Reboot into recovery
3. Choose install zip from SD card, select zip and flash .
4. Reboot!
Usage
1. Open terminal emulator
2. Type su to obtain root
3. Type onandroid
4. Wait and watch
Original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620255
As usual Im not responsible if your phone explodes, catches fire, etc, etc so please read everything and try not to post stupid questions like " does this really work?" cause it wont be answered. I wouldnt of bothered posting this here if it didnt work. Have fun guys!!
Well let me the 1st....does it work? :banghead:Sorry I'm just playing friend.lol. I'm going to try this right now.
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thanks for this gonna try rite now!!! i myself do regular backups as well.
edit: working working as i type! this is sick
hey you should post a link to the dev`s original thread so we could thank him and if possible donate for this amazing work.
My backup completed in 4 min 43 sec. And it seems to have worked fine. Thanks.
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cyrusalmighty said:
Well let me the 1st....does it work? :banghead:Sorry I'm just playing friend.lol. I'm going to try this right now.
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Ha ha ha! I knew it was bound to happen. Its pretty straight forward and really low risk I doubt anything could be messed up even if you tried but yea have fun! Hopefully it is useful to some out there
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solomon4400 said:
thanks for this gonna try rite now!!! i myself do regular backups as well.
edit: working working as i type! this is sick
hey you should post a link to the dev`s original thread so we could thank him and if possible donate for this amazing work.
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Will do give me a few minutes..... link to original thread in OP throw some thanks his way when you get a chance.
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Thanks for sharing!
When I tried to run this, it says "Checking for required tools" followed by "mkyaffs2image not found in path"
I tried uninstalling/reinstalling busybox and installing it to /system/bin and not xbin. This time it sort of ran but I got a bunch of errors and no backup.
Any suggestion on how to fix this?
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Isn't this inherently flawed since files on the rom are still being used and written while the backup is taking place? Neat idea though, don't get me wrong
netizenmt said:
When I tried to run this, it says "Checking for required tools" followed by "mkyaffs2image not found in path"
I tried uninstalling/reinstalling busybox and installing it to /system/bin and not xbin. This time it sort of ran but I got a bunch of errors and no backup.
Any suggestion on how to fix this?
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No idea never seen that error its been working perfectly on my other play and bro's arc, I'd check the original thread and see if anyone else has the same issue
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thatsupnow said:
No idea never seen that error its been working perfectly on my other play and bro's arc, I'd check the original thread and see if anyone else has the same issue
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Yeah, I thought of that right after I posted here. There are plenty of people posting the same error, so we'll see what happens.
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jacklebott said:
Isn't this inherently flawed since files on the rom are still being used and written while the backup is taking place? Neat idea though, don't get me wrong
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I have been asked the same question. Have a look at here for the answer.
ameer1234567890 said:
I have been asked the same question. Have a look at here for the answer.
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Fair enough. Hopefully people follow the advice of not doing anything during the backup, so they aren't disappointed when the changes don't get backed up
Should be fine I've taken a call and sent a few text messages while backing up. No problems for me at all
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I tried to do a restore from the online nandroid backup I made and even though it said "restore complete" my SD-ext(4) partition would not load its shortcuts and widgets. The funny part is link2sd didn't even detect any SD-ext as if it wasn't backed up. I thought it said that it backed up SD-ext during online backup, but not sure. I'm wondering if it might help to factory restore before restoring backup. I may try that to see and I'll report back if noone reports similar problem.
Edit**During backup I was not doing anything else with phone other then watching the amazing online backup screen. Also I tried to "re-create mount scripts" but never got option from link2sd even after reboot.
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cyrusalmighty said:
I tried to do a restore from the online nandroid backup I made and even though it said "restore complete" my SD-ext(4) partition would not load its shortcuts and widgets. The funny part is link2sd didn't even detect any SD-ext as if it wasn't backed up. I thought it said that it backed up SD-ext during online backup, but not sure. I'm wondering if it might help to factory restore before restoring backup. I may try that to see and I'll report back if noone reports similar problem.
Edit**During backup I was not doing anything else with phone other then watching the amazing online backup screen. Also I tried to "re-create mount scripts" but never got option from link2sd even after reboot.
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This tool (prior to v3) does not backup sd-ext partition. In the first post, you can see what the tool backups.
PS: If you can send me a previous backup of your sd-ext, I can work on adding sd-ext backup support to the script.
I still can't get this to work.
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netizenmt said:
I still can't get this to work.
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Can you post the error?
ameer1234567890 said:
Can you post the error?
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Here it is, the same error as before. This is with the latest 2.0 version. I'm running stock 2.3.4 rooted. Busybox is1.94 full.
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wow.. that would be great backing up online... i'm gonna try now..