[Q] Root before or after ICS OTA - Motorola Droid RAZR

Just got a razr max running 6.12.181.XT912.Verizon.en.US.
I really want to get ICS and wanting to know if I should wait for OTA then root or root. Will rooting be harder with ICS.
If I do root should I keep stock rom or get ICS leak or custom rom. There are a few things I like about smart actions would like to be able to keep if possible.
Thanks ahead of time

I would root now and try to keep root through the OTA, I don't know of any root method of ICS after the .85 build, and most of them you can't fast boot back to Gingerbread, so it's probably best to stay stock.
If you root, I would stay on the Stock ROM as ICS as been announced to be out by the end of quarter 2.
But it's all your choice.

Thanks for input. I know its my choice just want to make the right choice .
What is the best root method on razr? I have seen a lot about motofail is it the best?

Yes, Motofail is the most hassle free and easy root method. Just plug in with USB debugging enabled and run it! It installs Superuser and roots .173 through .181 easily.

My last question. Can it be removed if for some reason I have to take device back?
Thanks again for everything and the super fast responses!!!

Yes, root can be removed if you root with Motofail. Just to have everything in one place, I would recommend this utility http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...1-6-now-contains-6-12-181-fastboot-files.html it has root with motofail, fastbooting to .181, unrooting, overclock installs... I'll let you look at the rest.

Its rooted and I installed ota root keeper. Since i am not flashing anything right now i didn't do safestrap and fastboot. That should be enough to let me get OTA without any issues hopefully and be rooted.
Thanks again

Just a warning, when I was on the .79 leak I lost root when i tried Voodoo OTA Root Keeper. If you do when we get the official OTA it shouldn't be a big deal, because root methods are usually the first things found if losing root was common.

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Root process for Android 2.3.6

I have upgraded to 2.3.6 but did not maintain root access even with using voodoo protecting it. Voodoo failed to protect root AP Flashing back to. 744, then again through OTA update to. 748, and a third time through the update to. 173. I made sure on all three attempts that all boxes were green before updating, so I know I didn't do that part wrong. I had to gain root access after each change. Now I am where I wanted to be but without root. So now I'm wondering if there is just a way to gain root on 2.3.6 instead of going through all of that again and again hoping each time it works. Imagine my frustration. Lol. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
I am not responding how to get root access. But there are lot of us out there trying to gain root acces to Milestone x2 2.3.6. I believe the same method can work... It just needs to be discovered! Hopefully this will happen soon!
jrtem9 said:
I have upgraded to 2.3.6 but did not maintain root access even with using voodoo protecting it. Voodoo failed to protect root AP Flashing back to. 744, then again through OTA update to. 748, and a third time through the update to. 173. I made sure on all three attempts that all boxes were green before updating, so I know I didn't do that part wrong. I had to gain root access after each change. Now I am where I wanted to be but without root. So now I'm wondering if there is just a way to gain root on 2.3.6 instead of going through all of that again and again hoping each time it works. Imagine my frustration. Lol. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
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The Voodoo OTA Only works with DOOM's Zergrush root, not SuperOne Click.

Fresh install of 4.04 after the fact?

Ok. so ive been trying to root with the new release but cant for some reason.
I figure its due to the fact that i unsucessfully tried to root with another method
is there a way to cleanly install 4.04 again?
factory wipe doesnt work, superuser is still in my app drawer
which version of ics do you have?
Blur_Version.651.167.3370.XT910.Brasil.en.BR.zip
so, the LATAM version
You can reinstall the OTA (Boot recovery > clean cache > wipe data/factory reset > install update from sd card).
or use this guide for fresh install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700264.
btw have you tried this process for root? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707431
worked for me (european leak)
thanks for the help. have a few options now to try. ill post my success or failure.
ps... ellas ole
Try the root method first
I don't know if the script works, i used the manual process with commands.
If you have any questions about running adb, feel free to ask
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ps... ellas ole
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Ok I did it. rooted it finally
I was right, i needed to do the fresh install to clear the previous root attempt and everything went BEAUTIFULLY
Thanks again buddy
I'm glad you made it. We really needeed that root exploit!
No one's answered this yet....
If I flash these current "leaks" like .210 for instance, to a 100% stock razr, 1.) do I have to root it first? and 2.) will the "OFFICIAL" release still be pushable and pullable for me without having to do anything special? Or will there be other things I have to do for having rooted the phone? (just asking)
At this point you can root any version of ICS using the latest exploit, but if you have a stock razr it's much easier to root 2.3.6 using Motofail and keep your root using voodoo ota rootkeeper.
If you flash a leak you will still be able to get the official OTA but not directly from your phone as an update, you will have to flash it as well.
Gr0uNdZ3r0 said:
At this point you can root any version of ICS using the latest exploit, but if you have a stock razr it's much easier to root 2.3.6 using Motofail and keep your root using voodoo ota rootkeeper.
If you flash a leak you will still be able to get the official OTA but not directly from your phone as an update, you will have to flash it as well.
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Thanks. I'll just wait
maybe......
Just so I'm clear... and I rarely am about Motorola rooting... we'll likely be able to use this to root our phones when ICS finally drops?
I don't think Motorola will have the time to patch this, considering that the OTA is about to be released soon, but even in that case, there will be another option for sure, many developers wait for the official release to post their work

[Q] Original Neo - Where to Start?

So I have a completely original Neo, still on the on the original Gingerbread (2.3.3) it had and I don't quite know how to proceed.
The only thing I do know is that if at all possible I don't want to unlock the bootloader.
Ideally I want to back everything up before I do anything but from my understanding Titanium Backup needs root to back everything up so that creates a bit of a catch 22. Similarly installing CWM so that I can access recovery is risky and could break everything so I'd want a backup first but for that I need either root or recovery so another catch 22. So what would be the safest option?
Also I want to update to ICS, I figure it's about time I get my phone current, but I don't know in what order I should do that in either...
Should I gingerbreak my Gingerbread and then update to ICS?
Should I just update to ICS and then root?
Should I upgrade using generic firmware to a version supporting the zergRush root, then root and then continue updating to current ICS?
I'm fairly confident I can get everything right first time on any method (and I know what all the methods are/am to not to lazy to research the methods myself) but I just can't figure out the safest course of action here...other than staying on Gingerbread for the duration of my phone contract.
Any help you can give me is appreciated.
Start by reading the stickies in the development section, do some reading and you'll know
look at the stickies in neo v section too
Ok so you're saying I should follow the "noob's guide" exactly and try a zergRush Root first? (Skip unlocking the bootloader since it'm not interested in cutoms roms with custom kernels) and then install CWM and make a nandroid backup?
Ok....but that still doesn't tell me whether I should update first or root first?
Also I can't seem to tell from it's thread whether the zergRush root works on the latest ICS (I don't see mention of .431 in the thread with .62 apparently being the last version that worked so that would be a no then?)?
Also my case is different because I could actually even still root with Gingerbreak if that was best/safest unlike most people trying to root (I never downgraded either so I wouldn't be exposed to the 0% issue).
ZergRush method doesn't work on fw's after .42.
There is another method, which you can find in sticky thread in general section.
First update, then root, as root is gone after flas/update.
p.s. whatever you do, just don't flash android 2.3.2 on your phone after you flash 2.3.4, but there is no really point in going to that old fw, same as there is no point in still being on 2.3.3.
Root is only gone if I don't update OTA
SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Root is only gone if I don't update OTA
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Really? Thanks for telling me that..
I know that, I also know that you can't update from 2.3.3 to 4.0.4(which you said it's your initial goal, in your first post) via OTA. Or you can?
As far as I know I can but I admit I haven't checked yet. I don't see why once it's available for my region through the PC Suite it shouldn't also be available OTA.
Try and let us know.
It's not same if you're updating from x.x.x to x.x.y and from x.x.x to y.y.y, in first case OTA is possible, in second case I kinda doubt
I also didn't try, but if I remember correctly that's how it is.
Yeah but surely it should then just be 3 steps? So from x.x.x to x.x.y to y.y.y...that would would make sense to me anyways
Still reading up on a bit of other stuff then I'll check
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973017
hope it helps..

[Q] Over The Air Jellybean update on rooted XT912 (Razr Maxx)

so I am very excited for my Jellybean update.
I am running an original Droid Razr Maxx with the (until now) latest ICS release from Motorola and Verizon. The phone is rooted but I have never loaded any other ROMS (I don't even know how).
So can I update with the OTA Jellybean update while I am rooted? If I need to unroot my phone how can I do that? I used the "DroidRazrRoot404" tool but I cannot seem to use it to unroot my razr maxx.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
So you have the OTA? Or this is in anticipation of the OTA?
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You should be able to update with root, however you should have all official bloat installed or frozen because the OTA will check for it.
However, you will lose root after update....
??? Where did you get that JB OTA update? I am very exited as well, but most probably, it won't come out until next year...
Will OTA occur when the bloatware is frozen? Obviously not a big issue since I can unfreeze but just curious. Also, if I have a ROM on Slot 1 in SS for example, would I just go back to stock ROM and use the OTA when it comes out? Or are there any ROM/SS issues I need to consider or simply delete. And the OTA Rootkeeper app should solve my problems about losing root too right?
for those that want the download and more info about it
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/2...-331mb-update-as-build-98-72-8/#disqus_thread
ACEstrom said:
so I am very excited for my Jellybean update.
I am running an original Droid Razr Maxx with the (until now) latest ICS release from Motorola and Verizon. The phone is rooted but I have never loaded any other ROMS (I don't even know how).
So can I update with the OTA Jellybean update while I am rooted? If I need to unroot my phone how can I do that? I used the "DroidRazrRoot404" tool but I cannot seem to use it to unroot my razr maxx.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Using the download already provided, I had to do a few things to get mine to work.
1. Make sure you are on .211 Stock (if on .214 or .215 SBF back to .211)
2. Remove Safestrap or Bootstrap
3. Make sure all apps are thawed (if they were frozen)
4. Download the OTA update file DO NOT UNZIP IT
5. Place it in the root of your SD card
6. Boot into Stock Recovery holding down Power, Vol+, and Vol- and the same time.
7. Select down to Recovery and press up.
8. When you see the android laying on its back PRESS Vol+ and Vol- simultaneously.
9. Select wipe cache (this will not delete any data)
10. Select install update from External SD and select the zip file.
11. Let it run and update, should work.
I encountered an error so I had to SBF back to .211 and start over fresh, but honestly a fresh restart may not be a bad idea for performances sake.
The only issue that I see is my Razr didn't keep root. I am not sure that this is possible to keep root with this upgrade.
Used voodoo OTA rootkeeper. Protected root, temp unroot. Install, restored and used @matt's root restore fix. Works like a charm.
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R1pTheJacka said:
Will OTA occur when the bloatware is frozen? Obviously not a big issue since I can unfreeze but just curious. Also, if I have a ROM on Slot 1 in SS for example, would I just go back to stock ROM and use the OTA when it comes out? Or are there any ROM/SS issues I need to consider or simply delete. And the OTA Rootkeeper app should solve my problems about losing root too right?
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Hey, I've been looking at the posts about the update, and it seems that If you have safestrap/bootmenu/bootstrap, you will not be able to upgrade.... If you want the upgrade, you should go back to stock .211...
If you just have some frozen apps, you will be able to update correctly
Follow the instructions that chadgauth posted...
lost root
Stock 211 rooted. Voodoo root keeper backed up protect root, temp unroot.
Installed 4.1.2 update all good. Failed to get root back thru vodoo.
FYI cannot go back to 211 after flash 4.1.2 so now stuck
Without root till some dev comes out with a root method for us
Restore with voodoo rootkeeper then use Matt's rootfixer forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064074&page=19 post#187
Make sure you have USB debugging enabled in development
Enable "Unknown Sources" in privacy
Go to settings/storage menu soft key
Computer connect - select MTP
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Tried that. For some reason it did not save the such file with vodoo so root fixer says cannot be found. Prolly some mistake I made or uncommon glitch
queberican351 said:
Restore with voodoo rootkeeper then use Matt's rootfixer forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064074&page=19 post#187
Make sure you have USB debugging enabled in development
Enable "Unknown Sources" in privacy
Go to settings/storage menu soft key
Computer connect - select MTP
~SU!C!D3~ on Tapatalk
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As I was installing through recovery I got an error because it was checking my preinstalled apps for ForestWallpaper.apk which I'm assuming I deleted ages ago, in addition to
e:error in /tmp/sideload/package.zip
(status 7)
Installation aborted.
..but according to this I'm screwed? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19468147&postcount=15
R1pTheJacka, You can SBF back to .211.
Also, all of you guys that are using OTA Rootkeeper, why are you temp unrooting after protecting root? On my Droid X upgrade to ICS a while back and on this OTA to JB today on the RAZR Maxx, I just protected with OTA Rootkeeper but left it rooted. Didn't temp unroot. Then upgraded and then simply restored root. No need for an extra step of fixing it after trying to restore root.
85gallon said:
You can SBF back to .211.
Also, all of you guys that are using OTA Rootkeeper, why are you temp unrooting after protecting root? On my Droid X upgrade to ICS a while back and on this OTA to JB today on the RAZR Maxx, I just protected with OTA Rootkeeper but left it rooted. Didn't temp unroot. Then upgraded and then simply restored root. No need for an extra step of fixing it after trying to restore root.
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As far as sbf back to 211 you can't it just throws you into a black screen boot loop then you have to play with the power and volume buttons yo get into recovery to reflash the job update
sttierney said:
As far as sbf back to 211 you can't it just throws you into a black screen boot loop then you have to play with the power and volume buttons yo get into recovery to reflash the job update
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It didn't for me. And even the directions that everyone is following from droidrzr.com tells you not to "temp unroot". It is kind of buried in the instructions, but it says not to temp unroot.
85gallon said:
It didn't for me. And even the directions that everyone is following from droidrzr.com tells you not to "temp unroot". It is kind of buried in the instructions, but it says not to temp unroot.
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Once your on jb I tried sfb back to 211 and it was a nightmare to get recovery to come back up got the eye then black screen. And of course I updated before the instructions came out so that's how I ended up being where I am with no root
sttierney said:
Once your on jb I tried sfb back to 211 and it was a nightmare to get recovery to come back up got the eye then black screen. And of course I updated before the instructions came out so that's how I ended up being where I am with no root
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I went up and edited my post to clarify that I was responding to R1pTheJacka. He never made it to JB. He errored out trying to upgrade. Never made it to JB. You are correct, if you make it to JB you can't go back from the posts I am seeing.
unable to root ota using voodo
I have successfully flashed jelly bean but was unable to restore root using voodoo root keeper. If you guys have any luck please let me know... Missing my tethering. :/
Chadwick108 said:
I have successfully flashed jelly bean but was unable to restore root using voodoo root keeper. If you guys have any luck please let me know... Missing my tethering. :/
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You can use this to get root back if you used voodoo root keeper.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35863089
Sent from my JellyBeaned Droid RAZR Maxx
error unable to use restore root
klabit87 said:
You can use this to get root back if you used voodoo root keeper.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35863089
Sent from my JellyBeaned Droid RAZR Maxx
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root keeper will not work superuser app is installed is checked and /system supports root protection but will not allow restore root.
also tried matts restore root.zip but get error message of system/bin/sh su not found....

[Q] OTA after root

Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
bobstone said:
Hi everyone. Im real good with tech but i cant find anyone having asked...
I want to go buy the S4 and I will definitely root it (following the posted instructions on here) but before i do, will i be able to instal OTA updates after and if not, is there another way id be able to install updates? I used Voodoo rootkeeper on my tablet after rooting and the 1st ota went fine and kept root, the 2nd ota killed the root even while using Voodoo...
Please, any any all responses asap appreciated. I want to get the phone asap as i am tired of my rooted Bionic.
Thank all.
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Just wait for a rooted stock ROM based on the OTA to be made by a dev. You never NEED to take an OTA.
Thanks but im not sure what you mean. I have no interest in loading custom roms nor over-screwing around with the phone. Do you mean wait for another root process or wait for a download for an ota update?
Thanks again
Im guessing you mean a rom will be released again after the ota is out with the ota integrated in it... That process makes me kind of nervous as i need my phone for work as well as personal and cant risk screwing up the phone or erasing data eta...
There is pretty much always someone that releases the stock ROM flashable in a custom recovery so you can have a rooted stock ROM. Look at the dev beanstownm106 ROM in the development section. It is basically the stock ROM rooted with some very minor tweaks, but flashable with a custom recovery like TWRP.
BUT...there is almost never anything you can't do with basically any ROM that you can do with the stock ROM. So you really don't need the stock ROM...some people just prefer it. For my old Thunderbolt, it was pretty well known that for a long time there was a custom ROM, very similar to the stock ROM, that was more stable than stock (SkyRaider Zeus).
Another BUT: if you need Good for work, prepare for a constant fight with root detection. And you will want to back up your data often. I have a BB for work that I leave untouched (its not mine).
One more thing...the Loki workaround has its advantages...the bootloader is still locked and untouched, so it would be pretty hard to brick the device because you can get back into download mode and use odin to flash back to factory.
Whats the loki workaround? Also, im dont want to be doing any kind of flashing... I just simply want to root the s4 (which i now have) and be able to run ota updates or if not, download the ota and install the update manually. And if i get an ota, if it will kill root, even if i run voodoo.
Please, if someone could, let us all know if ota wont run or will kill root on say the s3 or s4 and if downloadable updates are another option... without flashing anything or going to crazy.
Thanks again in advance.

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