I may be getting the S3, and I know it has NFC, but what can NFC do?
I understand that it can do this beam stuff, but I won't use that really. Do you need these little discs to make NFC work as you get with the Sony Xperia?
Can you buy any NFC disc and use it for what? are the discs for specific purposes? What do people who have NFC use it for now please? in day to day stuff?
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MrMrMr111 said:
I may be getting the S3, and I know it has NFC, but what can NFC do?
I understand that it can do this beam stuff, but I won't use that really. Do you need these little discs to make NFC work as you get with the Sony Xperia?
Can you buy any NFC disc and use it for what? are the discs for specific purposes? What do people who have NFC use it for now please? in day to day stuff?
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NFC is basically a low-range, low-power(It draws power from the RF-field made by the phone) and low-storage device. So NFC can be used to transmit and/or store small bits of information.
It can be used for a lot of stuff, such as the Google Wallet contactless payment system, where you can basically pay by using your phone, however this system isn't live in many places yet, officially only the US i believe.
It can also be used together with nfc stickers or disks where you can program them to do specific stuff (Like go into car mode) when you touch them.
Those stickers and disks can also be programmed to contain contact information and other stuff like that.
Lastly it can be used to transfer small bits of information between NFC-enabled phones, and if both people have something like S-Beam that pretty much just establishes a WiFi-Drect link, then you can also transfer much bigger files by using NFC to establish the connection but Wifi to transfer the files.
The sort of thing I was hoping was for eg if I have one if these stickers in my car I.could get it to switch on Bluetooth, put phone into car mode (if there is one), switch on S-voice so can just ask instructions rather than press a button to wake 1st (not sure if S-voice works like this?)
I could then have another sticker on door panel or something to do the opposite when leaving the car. Is this possible?
Where do you get the stickers from? How do you program them?
Any other yes sorry from contactless payments (I'm in UK) or S-beam?
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Basicly, Sony came up with the idea, so it's not standard in Android nor TouchWiz. There might be developers and stuff who sells the NFC tags and have the same use as the tags from Sony.
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put phone into car mode (if there is one)
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Basicly, the idea behind car mode is that you put in what you think is needed for in the car (for instance, WIFI off, 3G on, BlueTooth on, Radio on, email off etc).
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The sort of thing I was hoping was for eg if I have one if these stickers in my car I.could get it to switch on Bluetooth, put phone into car mode (if there is one), switch on S-voice so can just ask instructions rather than press a button to wake 1st (not sure if S-voice works like this?)
I could then have another sticker on door panel or something to do the opposite when leaving the car. Is this possible?
Where do you get the stickers from? How do you program them?
Any other yes sorry from contactless payments (I'm in UK) or S-beam?
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You can program the stickers with a NFC writer, there's apps on the Google Play store that can do it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nxp.nfc.tagwriter
As for the tasks, like the car one, you have to use a third party application to write and read those tags, but i've heard this app does it pretty well: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher
As for where you can buy them, Sony (Ericsson) have made some keychain tags that you can buy in retail, otherwise there are also different types of tags like stickers, creditcards, keyfobs, etc. that you can get from here: http://www.rfidshop.com/nfc-tags-74-c.asp
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Basicly, Sony came up with the idea, so it's not standard in Android nor TouchWiz. There might be developers and stuff who sells the NFC tags and have the same use as the tags from Sony.
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What idea? NFC or performing tasks by scanning tags? Because they came up with neither, they simply were the first to commercialize it.
I'll try to link it later but there's a thread on this in GNex forums. You can do hella cool things! I'll find the link soon.
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That's what I'm talking bout.
Keep it Classy, Cali.
Wow - I am utterly impressed. I thought NFC could only be used for contactless payment. I need to get me some of these - quickly!
Thanks for links. Contactless payment may be handy if it's rolled out, but the other uses interest me more.
If I get one I would definitely want a "car mode" one.
There is Pay Pass Locator, that accepts Google Wallet.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mastercard.paypass
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I had originally thought that the nfc was worthless to me because my phones are always rooted but I can see having followed the links I need to rethink that.
Would be cool if it could also be an NFC tag (with a learning mode). Then you will be able to open office doors with your phone and stuff like that. (or is that only possible with RFID )
Is there any good web sites to detail better uses, ie good profiles to use etc?
I would have thought Sony Mobile would have had some good ideas, pages if there selling there tags with the Xperia S. Do those tags come pre-programmed for some usr already?
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Would be cool if it could also be an NFC tag (with a learning mode). Then you will be able to open office doors with your phone and stuff like that. (or is that only possible with RFID )
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Yeah there's a variety of ways it can be done, there are different types of RFID technology.
It's possible that it's based on NFC, but even then it's not nessecary using the NDEF format. We have a card that we can use to pay for public transporation, it is based on NFC, but it's not formatted in a way that the phone can understand.
It's important to remember that not all NFC chips are equal. There storage space, range and security can vary. There's a neat little table here that explains the different spec of each.
They also sell NFC chips, stickers, cards, fobs etc. They will also pre-encode them and do custom printing on them. Well worth a look IMO.
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I was curious if any on here have used this app? I love the developer (have his SpeedHUD app)..... If anyone can does use it, I would love your opinion. I am hesitant to spend much on a bluetooth OBD tool. I think the one he recommends is around $100.
here is a link to his site for those interested: Torque
Here is a description (from his site linked above) also:
Torque is an engine diagnostics application for Android that allows you to directly monitor your car engine control unit (ECU) and retrieve various information from the sensors connected to it as well as use your phones internal GPS and accelerometer sensors to graph other information such as acceleration
Torque can be used to view any stored fault codes on your vehicles ECU, then, after a mechanic fixing the fault, it also can clear the fault codes allowing you to clear the ‘Check Engine’ light warning on your dashboard
Torque can use a multitude of OBD adapters, ranging from the cheap (and slightly buggy) adapters you can find on ebay, to the more reliable PLX Devices Kiwi Bluetooth and OBDKey which are the amongst the best.
That's pretty damn cool... I'm not a car enthusiast, but even so I kind of want to get one of those BT adapters and try it out
^ yeah, same boat. I have a bad gas cap so my check engine light is CONSTANTLY on. Now I just ignore it because "I KNOW" that's the cause... heaven forbid something else be wrong with my car and I've just ignored it. Would be especially nice since this app also lets you CLEAR THE CODE (no more check engine light).
Really need to find a good/cheap BT adapter that will work with this app!!!
I'm interested in this too. The only thing I wonder about is the Bluetooth connection. There was a thread somewhere about wii remotes not working with some app on the market and the explanation was the Bluetooth version we have (3.0) would require considerable changes to make it work. I don't want to fork out the cash only to find out they are not compatible. I read that thread weeks ago, so I don't remember the particulars. Hopefully, someone will chime in that has already tried it.
Hmm. I've had no issues connecting with a few bluetooth devices... Never really had that concern, hope there are no issues. Wonder if you could return an item for that...
I was going to ask in his forum if anyone has tried it on a Galaxy S of any sort, but I never got the password e-mail. I'll try again later. Here's the thread that is making me balk. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have given it a second thought.
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I just got the cheapest BT ODB2 dongle from eBay (<$30), and it works fine on my 2010 Silverado HD. The throttle position sensor didn't seem to work right (my foot does just as well ), but the boost sensor seems like it may have...? I only drove around the block - we'll see when I'm getting on the freeway tomorrow. Being a new truck, there are no SES lights for me to check. Also, my truck has BT for the stereo, and there didn't seem to be any issues being connected to both.
In short, it works just fine for what it seems to be for (simple guages & such).
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^ yeah, same boat. I have a bad gas cap so my check engine light is CONSTANTLY on. Now I just ignore it because "I KNOW" that's the cause... heaven forbid something else be wrong with my car and I've just ignored it. Would be especially nice since this app also lets you CLEAR THE CODE (no more check engine light).
Really need to find a good/cheap BT adapter that will work with this app!!!
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A new $10 gas cap and a $25 AutoZone code reader would probably be cheaper and easier.
The gas caps for my car go bad every few months, it's just a design flaw I think. With all of the additional features the app offers + the cool factor, I think its worth it. May give one of the cheaper cables a try.
down8, got a link for the cable you got man?
Awesome + Finally!
I've been waiting for one of these to come out for some time. I have had a BT adapter in my car, as I used it with my Nokia N810 (using a software called CARMAN). It has some +/-'s, but this new software (Torque) is simply amazing.
Ended up using the free version, but purchased as soon as I got home. Will do some more testing and report soon.
I think it is pretty cool app, even though I can scan the codes for free at an AutoZone, but if you mod your car the app will come handy when you need to setup your CAI to by-pass ECU, etc.
I've been playing around with this app using a $30 Chinese bt dongle from ebay. It works great, you don't need the $100 one unless you plan to use it for pro level diagnostics (which some people do). It's got a ton of cool functions, the least of which is being able to read and reset fault codes. But I use for that too. It may not be able to read all the OBD output from your car, for example, it won't list the turbo boost for my Volvo, but that is vehicle dependent. Check out the forums on the dev's site; lots of good info there. Btw, I'm using the paid version.
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^ I think I know which one you are referencing, but I've seen variations. Could you post a link to the one you snagged... I have a saab so perhaps I will have similar success. Thanks for letting me know that.
Wow the developer needs to get on board with CobbTuning for the import enthusiast guys. This tool would be awesome to flash tuned performance maps. My accessport cost me $600+. Pretty awesome. Shame you couldn't just use the sensor to the micro USB.
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^ I think I know which one you are referencing, but I've seen variations. Could you post a link to the one you snagged... I have a saab so perhaps I will have similar success. Thanks for letting me know that.
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Sorry for the delay. Here's a link to the one I purchased. OBDII Scanner - seller autodoctor007. It shipped pretty fast from China.
wow, this is a great idea. i have not tried it yet, as i dont have an obdII to BT, but this looks awesome.
On a side note, as i dont have the obdII/BT connection yet, I do have an OBDII to USB cable. Can this or another app use that? I guess I would have to get a USB to microUSB adaptor to plug into phone.... how about any computer programs that will use the ODB to USB adaptor to monitor car data/engine lights?
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I was curious if any on here have used this app? I love the developer (have his SpeedHUD app)..... If anyone can does use it, I would love your opinion. I am hesitant to spend much on a bluetooth OBD tool. I think the one he recommends is around $100.
here is a link to his site for those interested: Torque
Here is a description (from his site linked above) also:
Torque is an engine diagnostics application for Android that allows you to directly monitor your car engine control unit (ECU) and retrieve various information from the sensors connected to it as well as use your phones internal GPS and accelerometer sensors to graph other information such as acceleration
Torque can be used to view any stored fault codes on your vehicles ECU, then, after a mechanic fixing the fault, it also can clear the fault codes allowing you to clear the ‘Check Engine’ light warning on your dashboard
Torque can use a multitude of OBD adapters, ranging from the cheap (and slightly buggy) adapters you can find on ebay, to the more reliable PLX Devices Kiwi Bluetooth and OBDKey which are the amongst the best.
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im having problems with this app...it crashes on start...which version do u have?
my little review http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1J8JwRPUXI
Awesome, thanks man!
The cheap chinese OBD II don't work with all vehicles so be wary about buying one of the these. I bought one for $25 on ebay and they don't connect with Ford's interface, however it did connect to my Dodge truck.
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So this may be a stupid question from someone who isn't an advanced tablet user, but why is the GPS so important to so many people? If I need a GPS to get somewhere, I use my phone or GPS. And even if my tablet is tethered to my phone with the GPS off, it still gets it's location just fine. If I'm just an ignorant fool please feel free to let me know, just wondering what the benefit of it is.
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I like maps and have very nice and detailed maps from memory map. It's very nice on a phone, but it would be so mutch better from a tablet.
Besides that, I can't stand it if something doesn't work (even if I never gone use it).
ddelong22 said:
So this may be a stupid question from someone who isn't an advanced tablet user, but why is the GPS so important to so many people? If I need a GPS to get somewhere, I use my phone or GPS. And even if my tablet is tethered to my phone with the GPS off, it still gets it's location just fine. If I'm just an ignorant fool please feel free to let me know, just wondering what the benefit of it is.
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they make seat mounts where you could technically use it as a turn by turn navigation. someone mentioned he wanted to mount one in his RV. I personally wouldn't mind having mine be functional so when I am riding with my friends to a vacation spot or something I can backseat turn by turn us to a liquor store or something....... all in all shouldn't be a huge deal for most but the fact that Asus was dumb enough to put a aluminum plate to block signal is kind of alarming.
ddelong22 said:
So this may be a stupid question from someone who isn't an advanced tablet user, but why is the GPS so important to so many people? If I need a GPS to get somewhere, I use my phone or GPS. And even if my tablet is tethered to my phone with the GPS off, it still gets it's location just fine. If I'm just an ignorant fool please feel free to let me know, just wondering what the benefit of it is.
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[A] I believe the point of GPS on this device (or any modern tablet / phone) is the utter ubiquity of GPS functions in apps, search, etc.... that coupled with gps hardware being so small, cheap, and power-conscious - it makes little sense to leave it out (even wih major usability issues)
I rarely use gps on my phone, let alone a tablet. Location based services are overrated
Maybe a gps to track a jog or hike? I'd love to see a jogger carrying a tablet
I'd also say that the people that post on these forums are generally not like the average user
It allows the FBI to find you when you view questionable material on the web.
Also, it allows Google to know where you are while collecting all of your habits, personal info and tastes.
Not everyone has a smart phone...not everyone can afford multiple gadget...
They buy the best gadget that meets their needs, the tp was originally advertised as the only device you need....
before ASUS dropped it from its specs, gps was part of the tp, so they expected the product to work...
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Well whats important with GPS?? Well, whether you use it or not. If the box says it has GPS, it better have a working GPS. If you buy a car and it says it has a rearview camera and you find out that rearview camera was not working. Would you just says its ok thats what turning your head and looking at the mirrors are for. You paid for the feature, you best bet it works correctly if you paid for it. But if you bought it after the fact that they struck the GPS out of the box specs, then you shouldnt complain about the GPS or the use of it on your tablet.
People are upset because the box says GPS, and you paid for GPS but your not getting GPS.
Not getting what you paid for = upsetting.
Its like buying a turbo charged MR2 then finding out that the turbo isn't actually hooked up because toyota says the MR2 isn't meant to be a high performance race car...
And to add to that note..
And you find out the guy in your neighborhood bought the same MR2 at the same dealer and his turbo actually works. Its like WTF??? The guy is ranting I love my MR2 and not all MR2's are the same. And another guy with a faulty MR2 is also saying "its ok I dont use the turbo that much anyways" ... hehehehe.. Sorry just had to add.
Here's another idiot question, is GPS a subscription service?
No. As long as the device you have has a GPS receiver all it needs is a navigation software. The prime has a built in GPS receiver and has a navigation app so in theory it should lock on to satellites without the help of a wifi connection. But due to whatever Asus did to the prime, whether the aluminum case or firmware. The prime is a hit, or somewhere in the middle, to a complete miss in getting a lock on a satellite. Thus making the prime's GPS way below other devices with a GPS receiver and made Asus remove it from their specs.
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So this may be a stupid question from someone who isn't an advanced tablet user, but why is the GPS so important to so many people? If I need a GPS to get somewhere, I use my phone or GPS.
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Think a little, then you will know:
1. Not everyone has GPS in their phone. Buying phone with GPS = additional cost.
2. Dedicated GPS devices have often outdated maps because they lack internet connection and buing one = additional cost.
3. Tablet has enormous screen, great for using navigation while being a passenger (you hold the tablet in your hands, look at maps or use navigation) - the screen is much bigger and better than most phones (I for one have very basic phone because I have tablet for more advanced things).
4. Tablet has a great battery life - it's perfect for out-of-car navigation (trips on foot, on a bike) and for tracking GPS for your photo camera on any type of trips.
5. GPS is usefull not only for navigation. Simple thing like having Google Maps locate you is very useful, but also webpages and many fun application use it. Just search the market for GPS, you will find a lot of useful applications of your tablet with GPS.
6. For instanced where your tablet gets stolen GPS can help you locate it.
I think I missed some things, because I'm writing this list second time, from what I remember...
Anyone found a used for NFC in the UK yet?
Is there any decent banking/payment apps for it or other cool stuff we can be using?
I see wireless credit cards as just another way to steal my money, and with things like this you don't have to mug me but just be in range and have the technology to steal it my details.
HaHa wave my phone around so the turds can grab my bank details .
Thats a good joke who thought it up trhe guys that sell cloned credit cards ??
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You can buy and program your own tags and use them to like... turn on wifi when you get home and stuff like that
I've never seen the NFC payment things in Manchester but other cities may have them, I dunno.
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Anyone found a used for NFC in the UK yet?
Is there any decent banking/payment apps for it or other cool stuff we can be using?
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Sony Xperia owners can get those "Smart Tags" - they're NFC enabled, so I'm guessing that perhaps the app they use them with is available?
Edit: looks like it isn't (boo), but there's other ones in the Play store that let you store information on the tags and/or activate actions on the phone by touch the tag to the phone. Check out NFC Task Launcher or NFC Tag Writer & Reader for two examples.
By the way, I'd heard that the range of NFC is in millimetres - so it's going to be difficult for a scum-sucking con artist to scrape your phone. Plus the eBanking apps I've seen discussed all have low limits on "unverified" transactions and anything of note needs you to enter a PIN code first - to authorise it.
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I see wireless credit cards as just another way to steal my money, and with things like this you don't have to mug me but just be in range and have the technology to steal it my details.
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Actually most credit cards can be read from a distance. They have portable card scanners that can pull your information off of a card inside of your wallet. I remember reading about a year ago that the issue is credit card companies are not supposed to store any information on your card besides the account number, but they often do to "ease" transactions on their end.
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Actually most credit cards can be read from a distance. They have portable card scanners that can pull your information off of a card inside of your wallet. I remember reading about a year ago that the issue is credit card companies are not supposed to store any information on your card besides the account number, but they often do to "ease" transactions on their end.
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If it was possible you'd hear about with the billions of cards knocking about, where all it takes with wireless cards is follow someone in a crowd with some kind of scanner, because if it is technically possible them someone's gonna figure it out, and all because people want to save a few seconds putting their card in the machine.
Bus stops have NFC for adverts, I imagine that apps will be advertised like this too.
Soon oyster cards in London will be on your phone. But you really do have to be pushed up against these things, its very short range.
These things won't become mainstream unless they're secure.
Thieving people just by walking past them is a load of ****, don't believe it for a second.
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dladz said:
Soon oyster cards in London will be on your phone.
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I think I'll keep my Oyster separate... A phone is more likely to get stolen but at least I can get home I always try as much as possible to not have the the phone out "on display" in or near stations anyway, and with the roll out of free wifi at stations for the 'lympics it's likely that there is going to be an increase in stuff going walkies I think.
I might get some NFC tags to mess about with for stuff at home though, just to give it a try really.
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People who think that it'll be possible to steal your banking details wirelessly from your phone really make me laugh. The ignorance is incredible.
NFC is only activated when your phone's screen is on and unlocked. It's physically impossible for someone to communicate with your Android phone while it's in your pocket.
ive just got the S3 today, and also have an Xperia S LT26i, i can use my Xperia SmartTags on both devices to set things like profiles - switching on/off things like data, bluetooth, wifi and apps etc...
as an example, i have one tag programmed for use in the car on my car keys - it disables my wifi connection, puts the phone on loud settings, enables gps and bluetooth (pairs with stereo in car for handsfree) and launches maps - all by tapping the phone on the tag. i then have another tag on my house keys so i can do the opposite....
you need an app called "liveware manager" and "Xperia smarttags" from Playstore to allow this to be done
hope that helps anyone interested in using NFC
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ive just got the S3 today, and also have an Xperia S LT26i, i can use my Xperia SmartTags on both devices to set things like profiles - switching on/off things like data, bluetooth, wifi and apps etc...
as an example, i have one tag programmed for use in the car on my car keys - it disables my wifi connection, puts the phone on loud settings, enables gps and bluetooth (pairs with stereo in car for handsfree) and launches maps - all by tapping the phone on the tag. i then have another tag on my house keys so i can do the opposite....
you need an app called "liveware manager" and "Xperia smarttags" from Playstore to allow this to be done
hope that helps anyone interested in using NFC
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I've done this too. You can programme any writable nfc card or sticker to be a Sony Smart Tag. There are instructions on the nfc forum. Then you can get the Smart Tag to change settings automatically for you. It works really well.
Use these with this. Works ace.
I own a mastercard paypass and would certainly feel more secure if it was on my phone, instead of on a piece of plastic. Unfortunately they only have that in the US yet. My phone can read it though (well it only recognizes it as a Mastercard, no other useful info), as well my transport card, a security pass and health card. I think when NFC finds its way to more phones, applications for it will expand (and hopefully my wallet will get less bulky).
I'll be getting some NFC compatible RFID chips to play with from ebay soon.
I wonder whether the anti theft tags in stores are using a compatible frequency. You often get those for free. I Should try.
Again as far as security - indeed it only works when enabled and when phone is 'awake'. It also has a sound notification whenever it communicates via NFC. And it's not a passive chip that can simple be read with a device and somehow duplicated. Payments would require an encrypted two-way communication.
Have ordered some tags off ebay so will have fun finding a use for them.
First will get one in the car to turn Bluetooth on etc.
Shame that the banks are slow on rolling it out, although they are supposed to be giving it a push for the Olympics but I guess only in small numbers at select locations.
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you need an app called "liveware manager" and "Xperia smarttags" from Playstore to allow this to be done
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Hmm, when I did a search (for "smart tag") in Play, the Xperia app didn't appear - bl**dy useless Google search.
Liveware I know about, because I think it's the same app as used for the smart watches.
Thanks for putting me straight though.
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Hmm, when I did a search (for "smart tag") in Play, the Xperia app didn't appear - bl**dy useless Google search.
Liveware I know about, because I think it's the same app as used for the smart watches.
Thanks for putting me straight though.
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try "xperia smarttags" - smart and tags have no space
I'm hoping 2012 will be the year for NFC - there's been noises around it gaining traction in time for the Olympics, but perhaps that will be London-only with Oyster cards etc.
I've upgraded to a GSIII from a Nexus S, which also had NFC. I rooted that and used Google Wallet to spend my free $10 from Google in the UK - a couple of Big Mac Meals and a coffee later, everything worked fine. All McDonalds have NFC-enabled tills, as do Starbucks I believe. However I won't hack Google Wallet onto my GSIII because I found out after the event that I'd changed some settings in the secure element by reinstalling too much, and now whoever buys my SNS from the secondhand shop will find out at some point it's incompatible with Wallet!
I said back in 2011 that NFC was going to be the next big thing, it's just a shame we're still waiting. It's more secure than debit card (pin for >£15 transactions, plus it's protected by your phone keylock, plus if you lose your phone you can wipe/lock it with Samsung Dive, Avast, or any other product. And as people have said, the range is tiny - 20cm theoretical, 4cm practical. If someone is that close to your pocket, you ought to have more worries than them scanning your NFC chip!!
I did manage to NFC a few contacts and bookmarks over from my SNS to my GSIII, and I have to say it worked really well - very clean implementation of business card swapping. A little "plip" noise and it's there, no need to open any apps first on the target phone.
I know that in the northwest there is a lot of research etc into using nfc within museums and art galleries as I'm leading a team doing so.
Using tags to give further info, images and links about art or subjects by tapping a tag.
I think using it for payment will take sometime to become widespread as the general public are a little scared of new technology like this!
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Well Barclaycard have the Pay Tag thingy (though currently only for some of their Visa cards, not Mastercard - I guess that's possibly 'lympics-related) see http://www.barclaycard.co.uk/personal/paytag and http://ask.barclaycard.co.uk/help/brochure/1_pay_tag/ but it doesn't make use of existing NFC capabilities in a phone, it's just a sticker to slap on somewhere which is completely meh really.
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Hello!
I was wondering what you actually can do with NFC. Could you say any practical uses of NFC? To me it just sounds like Bluetooth with less range. But I'm probably wrong.
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Hello!
I was wondering what you actually can do with NFC. Could you say any practical uses of NFC? To me it just sounds like Bluetooth with less range. But I'm probably wrong.
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NFC Technology have potential but looks like not picking up due to its wrong direction to TAGs. Could have been great media sharing tool. But hey the development is still happening. But see, P765, my phone, does not have NFC and I dont care.
It seems NFC is overtaken by DLNA. More DLNA home appliances are coming in the market. But DLNA needs home/office network, based on wireless router, which NFC does not require.
You only have to wait....
NFC is great!
I have tags at my front door, in the car, at my bed, at the office, etc....
You can program the tag to preform several tasks on youre phone.
For example, the tag in my car switches on 3G, turns off wifi, turns on bluetooth. Just by passing the phone over the tag.
The tag near my bed sets the phone in flight mode and turns on the alarm. Really easy!
I have bought 15 tags for € 0,60 each. You can program the tags over and over again.
The only problem with the L9 is that NFC doesn't work when it is on lockscreen. You have to unlock it before you want to read NFC tags.:crying:
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NFC is great!
I have tags at my front door, in the car, at my bed, at the office, etc....
You can program the tag to preform several tasks on youre phone.
For example, the tag in my car switches on 3G, turns off wifi, turns on bluetooth. Just by passing the phone over the tag.
The tag near my bed sets the phone in flight mode and turns on the alarm. Really easy!
I have bought 15 tags for € 0,60 each. You can program the tags over and over again.
The only problem with the L9 is that NFC doesn't work when it is on lockscreen. You have to unlock it before you want to read NFC tags.:crying:
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Lolz. I even don't need NFC or TAGS. Smart Profile does automatically changes profile, toggles switches and changes ringtones, etc. automatically or timed. Auto Call Forward can change call forwarding based on GPS location.
There are hundreds of other things you can do if do some search.
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Lolz. I even don't need NFC or TAGS. Smart Profile does automatically changes profile, toggles switches and changes ringtones, etc. automatically or timed. Auto Call Forward can change call forwarding based on GPS location.
There are hundreds of other things you can do if do some search.
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You are right, you don't need it but it's easy.
How do you quick toggle profiles inside a building with GPS???
Besides that, GPS on the whole time drains the battery.
Melkmeisje said:
You are right, you don't need it but it's easy.
How do you quick toggle profiles inside a building with GPS???
Besides that, GPS on the whole time drains the battery.
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Hahaha. No. Not inside building. But mostly office and home are far from each other right and GPS and wifi can recognize the location and app can change profile. Looks like u have not searched at all. Many apps are there. Example MyFrofiles by Lab01 Inc.
Search "change profile by location" you will find many apps. Why anyone need those stupid NFC Tags?
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Looks like u have not searched at all.
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Oke?? Thank you for judging me. I have searched for apps and tryed several. Most apps wil drain the battery more then using NFC. In most cases WiFi and/or GPS is also turned on and that is precisely what i don't want.
But I agree to disagree:good:
I thing you are jealous of my P760 WITH NFC
Melkmeisje said:
Oke?? Thank you for judging me. I have searched for apps and tryed several. Most apps wil drain the battery more then using NFC. In most cases WiFi and/or GPS is also turned on and that is precisely what i don't want.
But I agree to disagree:good:
I thing you are jealous of my P760 WITH NFC
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Lolz. You must be smart enough to know that people like us, do buy phones by examining tech specs and NFC was.nowhere in my wishlist.
BTW I was not judging you, trust me have no time for that. Lol.
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Melkmeisje said:
NFC is great!
I have tags at my front door, in the car, at my bed, at the office, etc....
You can program the tag to preform several tasks on youre phone.
For example, the tag in my car switches on 3G, turns off wifi, turns on bluetooth. Just by passing the phone over the tag.
The tag near my bed sets the phone in flight mode and turns on the alarm. Really easy!
I have bought 15 tags for € 0,60 each. You can program the tags over and over again.
The only problem with the L9 is that NFC doesn't work when it is on lockscreen. You have to unlock it before you want to read NFC tags.:crying:
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Thanks for the on-topic post that actually answered the OP. NFC has a lot of promise and the things you described are exactly why I am interested in NFC; i.e. changing many settings at once when going in different rooms in the house, or having settings at my office desk different than settings in a meeting room. Even with the L9s limitation you can change many settings by only unlocking the phone.
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Hahaha. No. Not inside building. But mostly office and home are far from each other right and GPS and wifi can recognize the location and app can change profile. Looks like u have not searched at all. Many apps are there. Example MyFrofiles by Lab01 Inc.
Search "change profile by location" you will find many apps. Why anyone need those stupid NFC Tags?
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Yes, cmahendra, it is true that there are many ways to accomplish the same thing; each person may choose their own way to change their phone's settings based on location. One of the strengths of Android is customization. Why do you imply that someone has 'not searched at all' if they choose NFC over another method? A person can choose one of the many methods and the response can always be 'you didn't choose another method that I prefer, your method is stupid, you must not have researched'.
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Yes, cmahendra, it is true that there are many ways to accomplish the same thing; each person may choose their own way to change their phone's settings based on location. One of the strengths of Android is customization. Why do you imply that someone has 'not searched at all' if they choose NFC over another method? A person can choose one of the many methods and the response can always be 'you didn't choose another method that I prefer, your method is stupid, you must not have researched'.
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Lolz. I was wrong to tell about things which can be accomplished without buying tags or apps. Anyways be happy by calling others stupid. Goodluck.
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More good news about NFC.
Three major banks in the Netherlands announced that they will use NFC for (small) payments in shops.
A trail has started with MasterCard.
Melkmeisje said:
More good news about NFC.
Three major banks in the Netherlands announced that they will use NFC for (small) payments in shops.
A trail has started with MasterCard.
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Really a good news. World is changing.
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Back when I had a Nexus S, my primary use for NFC was Wallet. Several stores in my area have cash registers equipped for NFC payment. Of course, your mileage may vary depending on where you live, and SmartTags can be very convenient/practical if used purposefully (see Melkmeisje's post for a perfect example).
Hi! =)
I wonder if there is a way to use the Gear S as a wifi hotspot? I got a SIM card with monthly unlimited data traffic.
Thought it would be nice if one could mount it inside a Gear S, and share internet connection with all other devices around, just as if it was a wifi hotspot/wireless router.
So far, I have figured out a way to share the Wi-Fi. Samsung recently released an update that added the ability to modify the APNs. Which I was surprised happened...due to the rumors that the providers are working on taking over the watch/phone remote features. This is why the prices vary.... ATT wants ONLY ATT phones to work with ATT connected watches.
Right now, that's not the case. The remote notifications are handled by Samsung's servers.
Once we get root, a lot will change.
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Hi! =)
I wonder if there is a way to use the Gear S as a wifi hotspot? I got a SIM card with monthly unlimited data traffic.
Thought it would be nice if one could mount it inside a Gear S, and share internet connection with all other devices around, just as if it was a wifi hotspot/wireless router.
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No, there is no app or built in features like that. Even it could, the tiny battery inside can't sustain more than 10-minutes.
I'm on a family shared plan. All my phones can be used as wifi hotspot so I know how it works (or not working in case of the watch).
It's not possible/practical due to current state of tech - as mentioned already the battery life wouldn't work out. I'm looking forward to a time where my sole voice and data plan could be just on the watch and I could tether that to any devices as OP is describing.
Imagine your watch is always with you so the crucial communications is always there, but when you need a more comfortable form factor to consume and create you would take the small handset/tablet/laptop with you and the watch shares it's data with those devices. For voice you could use the headset or speakerphone from the watch the way it works now.
Samsung is on the right track for this, but due to the way they've mis-handled their entire Tizen watch platform, I don't have any confidence in them succeeding. I say this as one who owns and loves his Gear 2 Neo and laments that it's potential is held back by poor support and business decisions.
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It's not possible/practical due to current state of tech - as mentioned already the battery life wouldn't work out. I'm looking forward to a time where my sole voice and data plan could be just on the watch and I could tether that to any devices as OP is describing.
Imagine your watch is always with you so the crucial communications is always there, but when you need a more comfortable form factor to consume and create you would take the small handset/tablet/laptop with you and the watch shares it's data with those devices. For voice you could use the headset or speakerphone from the watch the way it works now.
Samsung is on the right track for this, but due to the way they've mis-handled their entire Tizen watch platform, I don't have any confidence in them succeeding. I say this as one who owns and loves his Gear 2 Neo and laments that it's potential is held back by poor support and business decisions.
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Thanks all of you guys, for your replies with thoughts and info on this! =)
Perhaps someone will one day manufacture a nice looking wristband/bracelet with inbuilt battery powerpack that connects to Gear, wearing it on arm next to the Gear S, that has enough mAh to supply it's hotspot. And someone makes a root hotspot app for it... or not, haha. Maybe not a good idea, but it would for sure be nice if it could be used as a wifi hotspot.
opiujn said:
Thanks all of you guys, for your replies with thoughts and info on this! =)
Perhaps someone will one day manufacture a nice looking wristband/bracelet with inbuilt battery powerpack that connects to Gear, wearing it on arm next to the Gear S, that has enough mAh to supply it's hotspot. And someone makes a root hotspot app for it... or not, haha. Maybe not a good idea, but it would for sure be nice if it could be used as a wifi hotspot.
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I remember seeing a KS campaign for wearable battery packs. One of them was a wristband.
So, the idea exists...just a matter of time before they're going to make it to the mainstream market.
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Hopefully Samsung will get together with Seiko at some point & throw some kinetic tech in these watches.. Combine that with something like powerfelt to take advantage of body heat, maybe some photovoltaic paint & we'll have decent battery life. Of course the watch will be pretty ridiculous looking, but I'll prob buy one anyway. Really we just need Elon Musk to start making cell phone batteries & we'll be all good.
opiujn said:
Thanks all of you guys, for your replies with thoughts and info on this! =)
Perhaps someone will one day manufacture a nice looking wristband/bracelet with inbuilt battery powerpack that connects to Gear, wearing it on arm next to the Gear S, that has enough mAh to supply it's hotspot. And someone makes a root hotspot app for it... or not, haha. Maybe not a good idea, but it would for sure be nice if it could be used as a wifi hotspot.
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Sgnl Smartband is self powered with flexible batteries in the band and ability to make calls using your finger touched to your temple by your ear. Works on bone conduction using a Transducer instead of a speaker. You can use it as sort of a smartwatch with a standard watch. But the problem is that Sgnl being a sort of Skunkworks Project in Samsung's R&D Business Incubator and it seems they are so screwed up as a Kickstarter Project that they failed to launch multiple times and we're still waiting for devices to be shipped.
They are indeed using Samsung's newest flexible battery technology. Only because wiring issues it's in a hard stiff case. I tried a prototype on at a tech show and tested it as working. Now we just have to wait for them to ship. I'm not sure if they are including a wireless charger interface with the strap that could actually charge your Gear Smartwatch or not. But this is what I imagine a wrist battery would be like. No links allowed for me.... sorry!
So if they get active charging feature going and it's been requested as a feature in future models...... then you can keep it charging off the wristband batteries. They offer phone wireless charging interfaces on ebay. I would think they could be modified for use behind the back of the Gear Smartwatch with plug in to Sgnl Smartband. Running charging all the time would make capable of being a Wifi hotspot! ........but I wouldn't expect an App until Gear S3 gets rooted!