Hello!
I was wondering what you actually can do with NFC. Could you say any practical uses of NFC? To me it just sounds like Bluetooth with less range. But I'm probably wrong.
Eddiejo6 said:
Hello!
I was wondering what you actually can do with NFC. Could you say any practical uses of NFC? To me it just sounds like Bluetooth with less range. But I'm probably wrong.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBQObP5X570
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SllNBBuyARY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49L7z3rxz4Q
NFC Technology have potential but looks like not picking up due to its wrong direction to TAGs. Could have been great media sharing tool. But hey the development is still happening. But see, P765, my phone, does not have NFC and I dont care.
It seems NFC is overtaken by DLNA. More DLNA home appliances are coming in the market. But DLNA needs home/office network, based on wireless router, which NFC does not require.
You only have to wait....
NFC is great!
I have tags at my front door, in the car, at my bed, at the office, etc....
You can program the tag to preform several tasks on youre phone.
For example, the tag in my car switches on 3G, turns off wifi, turns on bluetooth. Just by passing the phone over the tag.
The tag near my bed sets the phone in flight mode and turns on the alarm. Really easy!
I have bought 15 tags for € 0,60 each. You can program the tags over and over again.
The only problem with the L9 is that NFC doesn't work when it is on lockscreen. You have to unlock it before you want to read NFC tags.:crying:
Melkmeisje said:
NFC is great!
I have tags at my front door, in the car, at my bed, at the office, etc....
You can program the tag to preform several tasks on youre phone.
For example, the tag in my car switches on 3G, turns off wifi, turns on bluetooth. Just by passing the phone over the tag.
The tag near my bed sets the phone in flight mode and turns on the alarm. Really easy!
I have bought 15 tags for € 0,60 each. You can program the tags over and over again.
The only problem with the L9 is that NFC doesn't work when it is on lockscreen. You have to unlock it before you want to read NFC tags.:crying:
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Lolz. I even don't need NFC or TAGS. Smart Profile does automatically changes profile, toggles switches and changes ringtones, etc. automatically or timed. Auto Call Forward can change call forwarding based on GPS location.
There are hundreds of other things you can do if do some search.
Sent from p765.
cmahendra said:
Lolz. I even don't need NFC or TAGS. Smart Profile does automatically changes profile, toggles switches and changes ringtones, etc. automatically or timed. Auto Call Forward can change call forwarding based on GPS location.
There are hundreds of other things you can do if do some search.
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You are right, you don't need it but it's easy.
How do you quick toggle profiles inside a building with GPS???
Besides that, GPS on the whole time drains the battery.
Melkmeisje said:
You are right, you don't need it but it's easy.
How do you quick toggle profiles inside a building with GPS???
Besides that, GPS on the whole time drains the battery.
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Hahaha. No. Not inside building. But mostly office and home are far from each other right and GPS and wifi can recognize the location and app can change profile. Looks like u have not searched at all. Many apps are there. Example MyFrofiles by Lab01 Inc.
Search "change profile by location" you will find many apps. Why anyone need those stupid NFC Tags?
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Looks like u have not searched at all.
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Oke?? Thank you for judging me. I have searched for apps and tryed several. Most apps wil drain the battery more then using NFC. In most cases WiFi and/or GPS is also turned on and that is precisely what i don't want.
But I agree to disagree:good:
I thing you are jealous of my P760 WITH NFC
Melkmeisje said:
Oke?? Thank you for judging me. I have searched for apps and tryed several. Most apps wil drain the battery more then using NFC. In most cases WiFi and/or GPS is also turned on and that is precisely what i don't want.
But I agree to disagree:good:
I thing you are jealous of my P760 WITH NFC
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Lolz. You must be smart enough to know that people like us, do buy phones by examining tech specs and NFC was.nowhere in my wishlist.
BTW I was not judging you, trust me have no time for that. Lol.
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Melkmeisje said:
NFC is great!
I have tags at my front door, in the car, at my bed, at the office, etc....
You can program the tag to preform several tasks on youre phone.
For example, the tag in my car switches on 3G, turns off wifi, turns on bluetooth. Just by passing the phone over the tag.
The tag near my bed sets the phone in flight mode and turns on the alarm. Really easy!
I have bought 15 tags for € 0,60 each. You can program the tags over and over again.
The only problem with the L9 is that NFC doesn't work when it is on lockscreen. You have to unlock it before you want to read NFC tags.:crying:
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Thanks for the on-topic post that actually answered the OP. NFC has a lot of promise and the things you described are exactly why I am interested in NFC; i.e. changing many settings at once when going in different rooms in the house, or having settings at my office desk different than settings in a meeting room. Even with the L9s limitation you can change many settings by only unlocking the phone.
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Hahaha. No. Not inside building. But mostly office and home are far from each other right and GPS and wifi can recognize the location and app can change profile. Looks like u have not searched at all. Many apps are there. Example MyFrofiles by Lab01 Inc.
Search "change profile by location" you will find many apps. Why anyone need those stupid NFC Tags?
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Yes, cmahendra, it is true that there are many ways to accomplish the same thing; each person may choose their own way to change their phone's settings based on location. One of the strengths of Android is customization. Why do you imply that someone has 'not searched at all' if they choose NFC over another method? A person can choose one of the many methods and the response can always be 'you didn't choose another method that I prefer, your method is stupid, you must not have researched'.
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Yes, cmahendra, it is true that there are many ways to accomplish the same thing; each person may choose their own way to change their phone's settings based on location. One of the strengths of Android is customization. Why do you imply that someone has 'not searched at all' if they choose NFC over another method? A person can choose one of the many methods and the response can always be 'you didn't choose another method that I prefer, your method is stupid, you must not have researched'.
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Lolz. I was wrong to tell about things which can be accomplished without buying tags or apps. Anyways be happy by calling others stupid. Goodluck.
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More good news about NFC.
Three major banks in the Netherlands announced that they will use NFC for (small) payments in shops.
A trail has started with MasterCard.
Melkmeisje said:
More good news about NFC.
Three major banks in the Netherlands announced that they will use NFC for (small) payments in shops.
A trail has started with MasterCard.
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Really a good news. World is changing.
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Back when I had a Nexus S, my primary use for NFC was Wallet. Several stores in my area have cash registers equipped for NFC payment. Of course, your mileage may vary depending on where you live, and SmartTags can be very convenient/practical if used purposefully (see Melkmeisje's post for a perfect example).
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So why are signal bars showing when i'm on WiFi with data and 4g off? Shouldn't the radio be off? And isn't that further draining the battery?
So this topic has expanded as noted below but the solution kills BT. Kinda sucks when doing things locally and no connection is needed.
Sorry, misread
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Ahhh...yeah, i'd just hit airplane mode then. And I can actually turn airplane mode on then wifi mode, but that is a pain, especially since they failed to put airplane mode on the quick toggles. That is odd in itself. So I have to do the power press, turn on airplane mode then do the quick toggle and turn on wifi. Kind of a dumb workaround when quick toggling mobile data should suffice. I guess they assume you're doing the phone thing with texting so the tablet is treated more like a phone. Annoying, but I guess I solved my own problem. Airplane mode on then wifi on does the trick. Now if they'll add airplane mode to the quick toggle, it'll be a nicer setup.
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i dont seem to be able to enable BT in airplane mode, anyone else?
When you turn data off, you do just that, turn off data handling for internet and email. This is a facility for people without unlimited data plans to save cash.
The phone radio is always on for SMS and MMS handling.
I know. I mentioned it in my 2nd post. The problem is some of us could care less about texting on a tablet and are more concerned with battery life. So if we're on wifi, we can go to airplane mode and turn wifi on. But apparently if you're on a plane and want to use your BT headset, you're screwed unless you turn off airplane mode and watch your battery drop like a stone.
Not everyone wants to use their connected tablet as half a phone.
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dbpaddler said:
Not everyone wants to use their connected tablet as half a phone.
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Then why did you buy a 4G unit (its a phone without voice!) and not a WiFi only unit?
All Android and iPaidalot tablets are just phone hardware with large screens...non of them let you fully turn off the cell radio unless in flight mode which turns off every RF transmission. BT is also a no-no when in flight on most airlines if you check...
I'd recommend using LTE OnOff from the Android Market.
While intended for the Thunderbolt, it's more or less just a shortcut to a menu of radio controls that already exists on your device. There's a "turn radio off" button near the bottom.
Farsquidge said:
Then why did you buy a 4G unit (its a phone without voice!) and not a WiFi only unit?
All Android and iPaidalot tablets are just phone hardware with large screens...
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I guess you confuse easily. The easy answer is to not have to rely on wifi. Plus the View replaces my MiFi. If I'm going to carry a small tablet and a mifi, why not get the view?
This isn't sold in the phone section...
And the bluetooth issue is just a bonehead move. So you can't fly and use BT headphones. Or play onboard music or video with BT anything and conserve the battery.
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dbpaddler said:
I guess you confuse easily. The easy answer is to not have to rely on wifi. Plus the View replaces my MiFi. If I'm going to carry a small tablet and a mifi, why not get the view?
This isn't sold in the phone section...
And the bluetooth issue is just a bonehead move. So you can't fly and useaBT headphones.
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LTE OnOff will work regarless of device type. The fact that it has LTE in the name is irrelevant.
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I guess you confuse easily. The easy answer is to not have to rely on wifi. Plus the View replaces my MiFi. If I'm going to carry a small tablet and a mifi, why not get the view?
This isn't sold in the phone section...
And the bluetooth issue is just a bonehead move. So you can't fly and use BT headphones. Or play onboard music or video with BT anything and conserve the battery.
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I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to use Bluetooth in the air.
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View was same price as flyer and had pen and double memory
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If they can do Pogo I doubt BT is an issue. Regardless, turning off unused radios conserves the battery period and the only reason to have the cell radio on while on wifi is texting. Hopefully the LTE Toggle helps. I'll give it a shot next time I'm streaming sports talk or pandora on wifi.
EricSS619 said:
I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to use Bluetooth in the air.
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I guess you confuse easily.
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No need to be insulting...
No, I don't confuse easily as I read the spec carefully and understand the limitations of the device I am buying (this is a mobile based tablet, not a PC!) and don't cry like a baby when on failing something I did not research!
Hope you get the help you need, if you don't, I'm sure you can start a class action....
Usually when people make a statement and do the confused thing, they're usually being a bit snide. And based off of your response below, I was probably right. I'm sure if you took a poll of people buying tablets with data service, it would be a minute percentage that use it for texting since the vast majority of users are probably texting on their phones. I'm sorry you don't understand why people would want an always connected device.
And reading specs and understanding limitations? What a joke in regards to the ability to turn off a radio.
Sorry, much more content now about being insulting in that first post. Thank you for reinforcing my first sentence.
Farsquidge said:
No need to be insulting...
No, I don't confuse easily as I read the spec carefully and understand the limitations of the device I am buying and don't cry like a baby when it doesnt!
Hope you get the help you need, if you don't, I'm sure you can start a class action....
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Keep it civil kids, the personal comments have no place here. Keep it up and you can expect infractions and/or bans.
The facts of the matter are as follows.
1. The behavio(u)r you're observing is correct, as per spec and design.
2. The radio should be on, with an established bearer whether data is on or off, this is not what the data on/off is about. Data on/off as indicated above is to initiate/terminate data sessions.
3. Yes you do save battery by turning off unused radios, but that defeats the always on nature of the device.
4. Bluetooth has not been certified for airborne use by any major aviation authority.
5. Wifi has been or is in the process of being certified in many aviation jurisdictions, hence wifi is possible in flight mode, bluetooth is not but the default is to turn everything off first and you have to explicitly turn on Wifi.
3. Wifi is "on". And no offense, but being always connected should be an option the user gets to control.
4. Just one instance. Again, the user should have control over what he wants "on" on "his/her" device. flying was just used as an exampled.
Bottom line is, cellular connectivity should not be "mandatory" in anything but airplane mode if it is not needed. It really makes no sense, nor does your justification of it being an "always on device". It's a "when I want it to be" device. I'm paying the $50 per month, not the other way around. And it is still a tablet first. It shouldn't be crippled because it has a cellular radio in it.
And again, wifi is part of being on so the option to turn off the celluar radio should be built in, not some workaround one needs to download. A
globatron said:
Keep it civil kids, the personal comments have no place here. Keep it up and you can expect infractions and/or bans.
The facts of the matter are as follows.
1. The behavio(u)r you're observing is correct, as per spec and design.
2. The radio should be on, with an established bearer whether data is on or off, this is not what the data on/off is about. Data on/off as indicated above is to initiate/terminate data sessions.
3. Yes you do save battery by turning off unused radios, but that defeats the always on nature of the device.
4. Bluetooth has not been certified for airborne use by any major aviation authority.
5. Wifi has been or is in the process of being certified in many aviation jurisdictions, hence wifi is possible in flight mode, bluetooth is not but the default is to turn everything off first and you have to explicitly turn on Wifi.
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What truthfully makes me laugh about the OP's lack of understanding about this whole thread is, in his pursuit of saying what users should have (and no one else has a problem) is that most BT headphones have limited battery life themselves. I have BH-905's, DR-BT21G's and Jabra BT3030's and not one of these units batteries, outlive the Flyers battery, playing music (note: my cell radio is on all the time....) Video watching with BT is downright un-cool with inherent lag (on all tab's!) so the cable comes out for the noise cancelling BH905's on planes...
My car does not make coffee, and I will never expect it to!
Shame you obviously failed to read through the thread. Then you would've realized that BT was not my issue, but someone else's, and I was just trying to point it out and help. My only concern was shutting off the cell radio while on wifi. And I figured it out and posted it rather quick.
Bottom line is there should be an easy way to ditch the cell connection when its only function is for texting. It shouldn't come at the expense of BT and using airplane mode.
And even though it's not my issue I would have times at the gym when I'm on wifi, cell reception stinks, and I wouldn't mind using BT headphones to stream pandora or slacker.
What's even funnier is the same people that love rooting, romming and having complete control over their phones find issue with having the ability to turn a cell radio off when it's not needed aand part of it under the guise that the device is meant to be "always on", like it's a requirement of the device, not an option.
And the coffee/car analogy doesn't make sense in any way, shape or form. Like I can't watch tv on my microwave and I don't expect too.
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dbpaddler said:
Like I can't watch tv on my microwave and I don't expect too.
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But now (or soon) you can... Maybe
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/20/2574130/microwave-hack-arduino-touchpad-youtube
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Just received a new Prime today, serial is C3, I have not had time to do any extensive testing but I am pissed off to find dead pixels and white pixels so I guess ill be returning the unit until I get one with no damn spot on it, the lightbleeding the GPS doesnt bother me but dammit the dots are irritating!
I do not know if anyone else has a C3 model yet so before I return it in a few days please feel free to ask me any questions to compare it with the other models.
I had a C1 before.
Cheers!
How's the wifi?
David522d said:
How's the wifi?
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Well in never had any real problems with it with my last unit but its fine right now no dropping or whatever.
Am gonna try go outside and see how far the signal can go and the strength and so on.
+1 on wifi check.
Depending on what type of internet connection you have but still, does it sseem to be better than your previous Prime ?
can you check wifi with streaming bluetooth?
I did not know there were different models. I got mine few days ago and it's C3.
I see that most people complain about wifi - it works fine for me, it has better range than my Galaxy S.
It has newest firmware in - dated 20-Feb I think. It rebooted itself twice for no reason, but apart from that everything works smoothly.
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I'm on my 3rd first had dead pixels and white spot (LCD mura) and 2nd had mura too. This or is fiber. All C2 serial..
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That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
Techie2012 said:
That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
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Now now.. Change that to "some of the primes"!
Techie2012 said:
That's pathetic that threads reporting problems with the Prime get low rating. I guess some people are trying really hard to hide the problems with the Prime.
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I'm happy with my prime purely for the fact that i got sick and tired of waiting for a decently powered android tablet, and the prime fits the bill in practically all areas apart from the for mentioned problems already discussed i.e. gps, wifi, wifi + bluetooth etc etc.........
usb to ethernet
-This was always a preference for me as i don't like leaving on my wifi for extended periods of time, just gotta wait till someone figures out how to hook the adapter to the tablet directly.
Saying that i like the fact that when i need wifi, i can log onto my router using the prime and turn it on and then remove the tablet from the dock, then, when im finished with the wifi, i turn it off, dock the tablet, and let it connect over ethernet automatically.....very nice
GPS
Waiting for someone to figure out how to allow apps to use my phones gps over bluetooth
or better still, gps over usb, to preserve battery
Saying that, i feel the same disgust as you my friend, were not apple fanbois fellas, stop acting like em.......if there are issues with the prime, ignoring them wont fix em, and what message will that send to asus..........."its alright guys, your next product is allowed to have defects"..............i don't thinks so
I got my C3 a couple of days ago. Other than the GPS that I knew was not going to work very well inside, if at all, its been working fine. It does work good outside though. Wifi is as good as any other devices I have on my network and range is the same as other devices. I haven't however tested it while using Bluetooth at the same time since I don't really use it that way.
As far as the screen I have no dead pixels and only the slightest light bleed at the top just below the camera. I didn't even notice it until I used the app for checking the screen for dead pixels. It is so small that I not sure I want to return it for another because like I said I don't even see under normal use.
I must say I was a little apprehensive about buying it because of all the threads here with some of the problems some of these have. Add in the fact there were none anywhere near me that I could play with first hand to see if I even would like the little thing it was a big leap of blind faith for me. But it was also the threads with the many happy would buy it again owners that conived me to go ahead buy it and I'm glad I did.
In short I'm happy with it. A buddy and I compared his new iPad(3) with my TP and the first words out of his mouth was WOW that is nice. There was also another iPad2 owner next to me and he was impressed with it too. This was in a place that has always had crappy wifi and I still managed to latch on to it.
I even applied my first hack to it yesterday the black hack for Notifications which really looks nice I think.
fasthair
banderos101 said:
GPS
Waiting for someone to figure out how to allow apps to use my phones gps over bluetooth
or better still, gps over usb, to preserve battery
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Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
This was not meant to be nor is it a 'trash the Prime thread' this was meant to be informative.
This has been working great for me so far... TF201+SGS
m3t4lw01f said:
Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
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How is WiFi+Bluetooth working together, headset, speakers, streaming..?
C3 should have all the updates for hw that solve the isse, I hope.
m3t4lw01f said:
Install "Bluetooth GPS" on your Prime, and enable the "Allow Mock Locations" Setting.
Install "GPS 2 Bluetooth" on your phone.
Pair your prime and phone via Bluetooth
Enable GPS and Bluetooth on your phone, and put the GPS 2 Bluetooth widget on a homescreen. Tap the widget to turn it on.
Enable Bluetooth on your prime, and open Bluetooth GPS and connect to your phone in the app (This app also has a widget to turn it on and off at a single click).
Voila!
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Already tried that, managed to get it connected and everything, but when i open google maps and click my location, nada............i just assumed that apps werent set up to use an external gps source!!
am i right in thinking that yours does work in google maps?
regardless, thanks for the help
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
banderos101 said:
Already tried that, managed to get it connected and everything, but when i open google maps and click my location, nada............i just assumed that apps werent set up to use an external gps source!!
am i right in thinking that yours does work in google maps?
regardless, thanks for the help
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Mine works fine, yes. Perhaps you need to disable gps on the Prime. Maybe it's getting confused?
I've also used "bluetooth gps mouse" (do a market search, there's a free version to see if it works for you) on the prime and an app called Bluetooth GPS Output on the phone. Maybe just need a different combination of software to get it working?
Oh, also, you need to enable the "Enable Mock GPS Provider" setting in Bluetooth GPS on the Prime. Otherwise it won't work at all.
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mark.m.moran said:
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
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I bought mine from cdon.no, I'm in Norway
mark.m.moran said:
Can I ask the OP where this unit was bought from??
Cheers,
M
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Just to add... I ordered mine online from Staples. Had it the next day with free shipping
fasthair
I may be getting the S3, and I know it has NFC, but what can NFC do?
I understand that it can do this beam stuff, but I won't use that really. Do you need these little discs to make NFC work as you get with the Sony Xperia?
Can you buy any NFC disc and use it for what? are the discs for specific purposes? What do people who have NFC use it for now please? in day to day stuff?
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MrMrMr111 said:
I may be getting the S3, and I know it has NFC, but what can NFC do?
I understand that it can do this beam stuff, but I won't use that really. Do you need these little discs to make NFC work as you get with the Sony Xperia?
Can you buy any NFC disc and use it for what? are the discs for specific purposes? What do people who have NFC use it for now please? in day to day stuff?
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NFC is basically a low-range, low-power(It draws power from the RF-field made by the phone) and low-storage device. So NFC can be used to transmit and/or store small bits of information.
It can be used for a lot of stuff, such as the Google Wallet contactless payment system, where you can basically pay by using your phone, however this system isn't live in many places yet, officially only the US i believe.
It can also be used together with nfc stickers or disks where you can program them to do specific stuff (Like go into car mode) when you touch them.
Those stickers and disks can also be programmed to contain contact information and other stuff like that.
Lastly it can be used to transfer small bits of information between NFC-enabled phones, and if both people have something like S-Beam that pretty much just establishes a WiFi-Drect link, then you can also transfer much bigger files by using NFC to establish the connection but Wifi to transfer the files.
The sort of thing I was hoping was for eg if I have one if these stickers in my car I.could get it to switch on Bluetooth, put phone into car mode (if there is one), switch on S-voice so can just ask instructions rather than press a button to wake 1st (not sure if S-voice works like this?)
I could then have another sticker on door panel or something to do the opposite when leaving the car. Is this possible?
Where do you get the stickers from? How do you program them?
Any other yes sorry from contactless payments (I'm in UK) or S-beam?
Thanks
Basicly, Sony came up with the idea, so it's not standard in Android nor TouchWiz. There might be developers and stuff who sells the NFC tags and have the same use as the tags from Sony.
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put phone into car mode (if there is one)
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Basicly, the idea behind car mode is that you put in what you think is needed for in the car (for instance, WIFI off, 3G on, BlueTooth on, Radio on, email off etc).
MrMrMr111 said:
The sort of thing I was hoping was for eg if I have one if these stickers in my car I.could get it to switch on Bluetooth, put phone into car mode (if there is one), switch on S-voice so can just ask instructions rather than press a button to wake 1st (not sure if S-voice works like this?)
I could then have another sticker on door panel or something to do the opposite when leaving the car. Is this possible?
Where do you get the stickers from? How do you program them?
Any other yes sorry from contactless payments (I'm in UK) or S-beam?
Thanks
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You can program the stickers with a NFC writer, there's apps on the Google Play store that can do it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nxp.nfc.tagwriter
As for the tasks, like the car one, you have to use a third party application to write and read those tags, but i've heard this app does it pretty well: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher
As for where you can buy them, Sony (Ericsson) have made some keychain tags that you can buy in retail, otherwise there are also different types of tags like stickers, creditcards, keyfobs, etc. that you can get from here: http://www.rfidshop.com/nfc-tags-74-c.asp
HKboy92 said:
Basicly, Sony came up with the idea, so it's not standard in Android nor TouchWiz. There might be developers and stuff who sells the NFC tags and have the same use as the tags from Sony.
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What idea? NFC or performing tasks by scanning tags? Because they came up with neither, they simply were the first to commercialize it.
I'll try to link it later but there's a thread on this in GNex forums. You can do hella cool things! I'll find the link soon.
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That's what I'm talking bout.
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Wow - I am utterly impressed. I thought NFC could only be used for contactless payment. I need to get me some of these - quickly!
Thanks for links. Contactless payment may be handy if it's rolled out, but the other uses interest me more.
If I get one I would definitely want a "car mode" one.
There is Pay Pass Locator, that accepts Google Wallet.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mastercard.paypass
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I had originally thought that the nfc was worthless to me because my phones are always rooted but I can see having followed the links I need to rethink that.
Would be cool if it could also be an NFC tag (with a learning mode). Then you will be able to open office doors with your phone and stuff like that. (or is that only possible with RFID )
Is there any good web sites to detail better uses, ie good profiles to use etc?
I would have thought Sony Mobile would have had some good ideas, pages if there selling there tags with the Xperia S. Do those tags come pre-programmed for some usr already?
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Would be cool if it could also be an NFC tag (with a learning mode). Then you will be able to open office doors with your phone and stuff like that. (or is that only possible with RFID )
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Yeah there's a variety of ways it can be done, there are different types of RFID technology.
It's possible that it's based on NFC, but even then it's not nessecary using the NDEF format. We have a card that we can use to pay for public transporation, it is based on NFC, but it's not formatted in a way that the phone can understand.
It's important to remember that not all NFC chips are equal. There storage space, range and security can vary. There's a neat little table here that explains the different spec of each.
They also sell NFC chips, stickers, cards, fobs etc. They will also pre-encode them and do custom printing on them. Well worth a look IMO.
Anyone found a used for NFC in the UK yet?
Is there any decent banking/payment apps for it or other cool stuff we can be using?
I see wireless credit cards as just another way to steal my money, and with things like this you don't have to mug me but just be in range and have the technology to steal it my details.
HaHa wave my phone around so the turds can grab my bank details .
Thats a good joke who thought it up trhe guys that sell cloned credit cards ??
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You can buy and program your own tags and use them to like... turn on wifi when you get home and stuff like that
I've never seen the NFC payment things in Manchester but other cities may have them, I dunno.
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Anyone found a used for NFC in the UK yet?
Is there any decent banking/payment apps for it or other cool stuff we can be using?
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Sony Xperia owners can get those "Smart Tags" - they're NFC enabled, so I'm guessing that perhaps the app they use them with is available?
Edit: looks like it isn't (boo), but there's other ones in the Play store that let you store information on the tags and/or activate actions on the phone by touch the tag to the phone. Check out NFC Task Launcher or NFC Tag Writer & Reader for two examples.
By the way, I'd heard that the range of NFC is in millimetres - so it's going to be difficult for a scum-sucking con artist to scrape your phone. Plus the eBanking apps I've seen discussed all have low limits on "unverified" transactions and anything of note needs you to enter a PIN code first - to authorise it.
Michael_P said:
I see wireless credit cards as just another way to steal my money, and with things like this you don't have to mug me but just be in range and have the technology to steal it my details.
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Actually most credit cards can be read from a distance. They have portable card scanners that can pull your information off of a card inside of your wallet. I remember reading about a year ago that the issue is credit card companies are not supposed to store any information on your card besides the account number, but they often do to "ease" transactions on their end.
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Actually most credit cards can be read from a distance. They have portable card scanners that can pull your information off of a card inside of your wallet. I remember reading about a year ago that the issue is credit card companies are not supposed to store any information on your card besides the account number, but they often do to "ease" transactions on their end.
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If it was possible you'd hear about with the billions of cards knocking about, where all it takes with wireless cards is follow someone in a crowd with some kind of scanner, because if it is technically possible them someone's gonna figure it out, and all because people want to save a few seconds putting their card in the machine.
Bus stops have NFC for adverts, I imagine that apps will be advertised like this too.
Soon oyster cards in London will be on your phone. But you really do have to be pushed up against these things, its very short range.
These things won't become mainstream unless they're secure.
Thieving people just by walking past them is a load of ****, don't believe it for a second.
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dladz said:
Soon oyster cards in London will be on your phone.
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I think I'll keep my Oyster separate... A phone is more likely to get stolen but at least I can get home I always try as much as possible to not have the the phone out "on display" in or near stations anyway, and with the roll out of free wifi at stations for the 'lympics it's likely that there is going to be an increase in stuff going walkies I think.
I might get some NFC tags to mess about with for stuff at home though, just to give it a try really.
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People who think that it'll be possible to steal your banking details wirelessly from your phone really make me laugh. The ignorance is incredible.
NFC is only activated when your phone's screen is on and unlocked. It's physically impossible for someone to communicate with your Android phone while it's in your pocket.
ive just got the S3 today, and also have an Xperia S LT26i, i can use my Xperia SmartTags on both devices to set things like profiles - switching on/off things like data, bluetooth, wifi and apps etc...
as an example, i have one tag programmed for use in the car on my car keys - it disables my wifi connection, puts the phone on loud settings, enables gps and bluetooth (pairs with stereo in car for handsfree) and launches maps - all by tapping the phone on the tag. i then have another tag on my house keys so i can do the opposite....
you need an app called "liveware manager" and "Xperia smarttags" from Playstore to allow this to be done
hope that helps anyone interested in using NFC
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ive just got the S3 today, and also have an Xperia S LT26i, i can use my Xperia SmartTags on both devices to set things like profiles - switching on/off things like data, bluetooth, wifi and apps etc...
as an example, i have one tag programmed for use in the car on my car keys - it disables my wifi connection, puts the phone on loud settings, enables gps and bluetooth (pairs with stereo in car for handsfree) and launches maps - all by tapping the phone on the tag. i then have another tag on my house keys so i can do the opposite....
you need an app called "liveware manager" and "Xperia smarttags" from Playstore to allow this to be done
hope that helps anyone interested in using NFC
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I've done this too. You can programme any writable nfc card or sticker to be a Sony Smart Tag. There are instructions on the nfc forum. Then you can get the Smart Tag to change settings automatically for you. It works really well.
Use these with this. Works ace.
I own a mastercard paypass and would certainly feel more secure if it was on my phone, instead of on a piece of plastic. Unfortunately they only have that in the US yet. My phone can read it though (well it only recognizes it as a Mastercard, no other useful info), as well my transport card, a security pass and health card. I think when NFC finds its way to more phones, applications for it will expand (and hopefully my wallet will get less bulky).
I'll be getting some NFC compatible RFID chips to play with from ebay soon.
I wonder whether the anti theft tags in stores are using a compatible frequency. You often get those for free. I Should try.
Again as far as security - indeed it only works when enabled and when phone is 'awake'. It also has a sound notification whenever it communicates via NFC. And it's not a passive chip that can simple be read with a device and somehow duplicated. Payments would require an encrypted two-way communication.
Have ordered some tags off ebay so will have fun finding a use for them.
First will get one in the car to turn Bluetooth on etc.
Shame that the banks are slow on rolling it out, although they are supposed to be giving it a push for the Olympics but I guess only in small numbers at select locations.
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you need an app called "liveware manager" and "Xperia smarttags" from Playstore to allow this to be done
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Hmm, when I did a search (for "smart tag") in Play, the Xperia app didn't appear - bl**dy useless Google search.
Liveware I know about, because I think it's the same app as used for the smart watches.
Thanks for putting me straight though.
bluebobx said:
Hmm, when I did a search (for "smart tag") in Play, the Xperia app didn't appear - bl**dy useless Google search.
Liveware I know about, because I think it's the same app as used for the smart watches.
Thanks for putting me straight though.
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try "xperia smarttags" - smart and tags have no space
I'm hoping 2012 will be the year for NFC - there's been noises around it gaining traction in time for the Olympics, but perhaps that will be London-only with Oyster cards etc.
I've upgraded to a GSIII from a Nexus S, which also had NFC. I rooted that and used Google Wallet to spend my free $10 from Google in the UK - a couple of Big Mac Meals and a coffee later, everything worked fine. All McDonalds have NFC-enabled tills, as do Starbucks I believe. However I won't hack Google Wallet onto my GSIII because I found out after the event that I'd changed some settings in the secure element by reinstalling too much, and now whoever buys my SNS from the secondhand shop will find out at some point it's incompatible with Wallet!
I said back in 2011 that NFC was going to be the next big thing, it's just a shame we're still waiting. It's more secure than debit card (pin for >£15 transactions, plus it's protected by your phone keylock, plus if you lose your phone you can wipe/lock it with Samsung Dive, Avast, or any other product. And as people have said, the range is tiny - 20cm theoretical, 4cm practical. If someone is that close to your pocket, you ought to have more worries than them scanning your NFC chip!!
I did manage to NFC a few contacts and bookmarks over from my SNS to my GSIII, and I have to say it worked really well - very clean implementation of business card swapping. A little "plip" noise and it's there, no need to open any apps first on the target phone.
I know that in the northwest there is a lot of research etc into using nfc within museums and art galleries as I'm leading a team doing so.
Using tags to give further info, images and links about art or subjects by tapping a tag.
I think using it for payment will take sometime to become widespread as the general public are a little scared of new technology like this!
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Well Barclaycard have the Pay Tag thingy (though currently only for some of their Visa cards, not Mastercard - I guess that's possibly 'lympics-related) see http://www.barclaycard.co.uk/personal/paytag and http://ask.barclaycard.co.uk/help/brochure/1_pay_tag/ but it doesn't make use of existing NFC capabilities in a phone, it's just a sticker to slap on somewhere which is completely meh really.
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What if you could encrypt WiFi tethering with a code and make it so someone (such as, your girlfriend) have access to use it and it turns on when they punch in the code...ah I'm dreaming
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What if you could encrypt WiFi tethering with a code and make it so someone (such as, your girlfriend) have access to use it and it turns on when they punch in the code...ah I'm dreaming
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Well if you mean wpa wifi tethering then that's standard
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Well if you mean wpa wifi tethering then that's standard
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Do you have to have it on?
You would have to leave it on. otherwise how is the phone going to know when a device is trying to connect? Magic?
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You would have to leave it on. otherwise how is the phone going to know when a device is trying to connect? Magic?
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A push notification that says a user is trying to connect, and the ability to grant access. Its a wish list Haha, I was seeing if other users would find it interesting.
How is the phone to know to send you the push notification?
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How is the phone to know to send you the push notification?
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I think he meant the device connecting to the phone, or client, sends a push notice to the phone, server, which then activates WiFi service on demand, not just always on or off.
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I think he meant the device connecting to the phone, or client, sends a push notice to the phone, server, which then activates WiFi service on demand, not just always on or off.
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Again I ask, how is the phone to know that an "approved" device is within range?
Unless you have gps active on both phones, a simple data connection isn't going to get you an accurate enough location.
Its just not possible.
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Again I ask, how is the phone to know that an "approved" device is within range?
Unless you have gps active on both phones, a simple data connection isn't going to get you an accurate enough location.
Its just not possible.
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It would know its an approved device via the password the he mentioned being used in the first post. Location has nothing to do with it, if the push notice is received with a proper password then it would turn on tethering and allow the client to connect, if its not within range that's not the servers fault. As this all imaginary then it could easily shut off if no client authenticates and connects within a minute or so, and also if a client disconnects.
Why would location even be a concern besides range?
Maybe use NFC to trigger it? That would take care of the devices knowing if they're near each other.
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It would know its an approved device via the password the he mentioned being used in the first post. Location has nothing to do with it, if the push notice is received with a proper password then it would turn on tethering and allow the client to connect, if its not within range that's not the servers fault. As this all imaginary then it could easily shut off if no client authenticates and connects within a minute or so, and also if a client disconnects.
Why would location even be a concern besides range?
Maybe use NFC to trigger it? That would take care of the devices knowing if they're near each other.
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1. How else are you to know when to enable tethering?
2. NFC is only viable if the devices are a few inches apart.
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1. How else are you to know when to enable tethering?
2. NFC is only viable if the devices are a few inches apart.
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Well if you just walk up, wave your tablet at your phone and then it just links up seems like a nice little feature to me. Considering your phone is usually going to be with you, say sitting at a coffee place or something, you pull out your tablet, you'll probably be able to get them within that few inches fairly easily.
Or how about this, its all imaginary, use your imagination for something you'd like to see for WiFi tethering, the actual point to this thread.
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Well if you just walk up, wave your tablet at your phone and then it just links up seems like a nice little feature to me. Considering your phone is usually going to be with you, say sitting at a coffee place or something, you pull out your tablet, you'll probably be able to get them within that few inches fairly easily.
Or how about this, its all imaginary, use your imagination for something you'd like to see for WiFi tethering, the actual point to this thread.
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In order to start down the path of designing a solution, the requirements must be clear and concise.
Also, you are working with the hardware in the phone, so that can be a limiting factor.
NFC could work, so long as you are ok leaving it on all the time. Having someone wave their phone/tablet at your crotch to turn your tethering on could be 'interesting' depending on where you are.
If we completely ignore having the phone be "aware" of the device connecting to it, so we remove the proximity requirement. We could have an app monitoring your text messages, and watching for a specific string. Have one string enable tether and another disable tether.
An application already exists that will do the above. (do something on the phone, based on the text of an incoming sms message.)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=AutomateIt.mainPackage&hl=en
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In order to start down the path of designing a solution, the requirements must be clear and concise.
Also, you are working with the hardware in the phone, so that can be a limiting factor.
NFC could work, so long as you are ok leaving it on all the time. Having someone wave their phone/tablet at your crotch to turn your tethering on could be 'interesting' depending on where you are. If we completely ignore having the phone be "aware" of the device connecting to it, so we remove the proximity requirement. We could have an app monitoring your text messages, and watching for a specific string. Have one string enable tether and another disable tether.
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I'm all for a solution that has people wave expensive toys at my crotch. Anything else the solution does it just gravy.
As its a WiFi tether I'm working based on something like a tablet, so SMS would likely be out, no connection at that point. It would also limit push notice like I mentioned before, hadn't considered that. The only thing I can really think of would require NFC, which only newish devices have. If we rely on a WiFi signal to handle the detection for connection then it may as well be how it is now, tap a button, WiFi tether is on.
While the NFC range could be an issue, again given a phones WiFi tether range I don't consider it to big a stretch to assume the client will be fairly close to it already, so they have to walk 10 feet to pat your crotch, small price for them, and payment for your data usage
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I'm all for a solution that has people wave expensive toys at my crotch. Anything else the solution does it just gravy.
As its a WiFi tether I'm working based on something like a tablet, so SMS would likely be out, no connection at that point. It would also limit push notice like I mentioned before, hadn't considered that. The only thing I can really think of would require NFC, which only newish devices have. If we rely on a WiFi signal to handle the detection for connection then it may as well be how it is now, tap a button, WiFi tether is on.
While the NFC range could be an issue, again given a phones WiFi tether range I don't consider it to big a stretch to assume the client will be fairly close to it already, so they have to walk 10 feet to pat your crotch, small price for them, and payment for your data usage
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They could send a text with their "dumb phone", since its just looking for a text string, not caring what device sent it.