[Q] will there be an ics stock update for droid razr? - Motorola Droid RAZR

if yes please provide source and if possible the eta.
thx

marawan31 said:
if yes please provide source and if possible the eta.
thx
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https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Here ya go.

Of course there will be an ics ota. There are many leaks. Moto built them. It is coming. I'm saying b4 end of July.

marawan31 said:
if yes please provide source and if possible the eta.
thx
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This maybe the single most discussed topic on this forum...
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Search before you post....plain and simple

OP obviously a master of 'look at any thread before posting'
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I juat whent over to droidrazr.com and did the leak. Works great if you dont want to wait

wow you guys need to relax. i did search before posting and i found the exact same link as the second post did. only problem is my device wasnt listed in the region. it says droid razr from usa is getting update on q2 2012. i have a droid razr from canada. so i had doubts. then i found out motorola droid razr is actually called motorola razr in canada. unfortunatly after i posted this thread.

You posted the? We answered

yea you answered lol others just attacked me
thx btw

Seriously, you asked if the DROID RAZR would get ICS....last time I checked that means it could be any DROID RAZR no matter where it is. You didn't mention anything about Canada or any other region. This has been discussed many times, wasn't trying to attack but it seems like a wasted thread when you ask if the RAZR will get ICS when its a pretty easy topic to find when you search

i guess my mistake was being too general

stkiswr said:
Of course there will be an ics ota. There are many leaks. Moto built them. It is coming. I'm saying b4 end of July.
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End of July, huh? Based on what? So now you're predicting Q3? Motorola was updating ICS like crazy for awhile, but seemed to have stopped after .206....I predict it to be the final build and it will be released before end of June, probably sooner.

Honestly if you did a basic search you would've seen Motorola's official release for ICS for our Razrs among other Motorola devices for Q2. There are tons of threads pertaining to ICS release dates as well as rumors of its impending release.
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MyEntityRemains said:
End of July, huh? Based on what? So now you're predicting Q3? Motorola was updating ICS like crazy for awhile, but seemed to have stopped after .206....I predict it to be the final build and it will be released before end of June, probably sooner.
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Just guessing. I am on ics 206 and it has a few little bugs. If they don't catch it then they may release it but I feel it needs more work. I hope they do drop it in June but I dunno. Verizon is your problem...not moto. The builds are already done. They should clean up another one before an ota drops.
Look at the nexus. Needs plenty of bug fixes being on 402 and 404 has been built since??? February and still no ota. I don't know what more confusing, the fact that the manufacturers are making the update or that the carriers are deciding when lol.
Manufacturers should be manufacturing and supporting their devices and carriers should be just that...carriers. nothing more.

stkiswr said:
Just guessing. I am on ics 206 and it has a few little bugs. If they don't catch it then they may release it but I feel it needs more work. I hope they do drop it in June but I dunno. Verizon is your problem...not moto. The builds are already done. They should clean up another one before an ota drops.
Look at the nexus. Needs plenty of bug fixes being on 402 and 404 has been built since??? February and still no ota. I don't know what more confusing, the fact that the manufacturers are making the update or that the carriers are deciding when lol.
Manufacturers should be manufacturing and supporting their devices and carriers should be just that...carriers. nothing more.
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The main reason I dumped the Nexus was for the lack of CDMA support. You are exactly right about the 4.0.4 update, but it still didn't fix the radio (reception) issues. I ran the 4.0.4 leak until the day I ditched it, but the reception was very poor and that is a common complaint with the Nexus. My RAZR has near perfect reception. Hopefully ICS doesn't hurt it.

I bought my wife a nexus and its a solid device but some things are just not right. Not even compared to the 206 leak lol. I will say that the radios w the leak are pretty good. I seem to get faster 3g and better 4g but have a few random issues. Nothing major but it could be attributed to the new radios. I will say that battery life is a noticeable improvement on my maxx w ics vs gbread. Hard to believe it could get better but even leaving it unrooted and just disabling 30+ apps thru ics is great!

collins521 said:
Seriously, you asked if the DROID RAZR would get ICS....last time I checked that means it could be any DROID RAZR no matter where it is. You didn't mention anything about Canada or any other region. This has been discussed many times, wasn't trying to attack but it seems like a wasted thread when you ask if the RAZR will get ICS when its a pretty easy topic to find when you search
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Well, perhaps it's just semantics, but technically, by saying "Droid RAZR," that means the Verizon version and only the Verizon version. Verizon licensed the Droid name, and they're the only carrier in the world that legally has the rights to add it to the name of their phones. Everywhere else in the world, for every other carrier, this phone is called the Motorola RAZR. So by saying "Droid RAZR," the OP is actually referring only to the Verizon version, which makes the thread even more amusing since that's not the device that he/she is actually wanting to talk about. It wasn't too general, it was specific in the wrong way.
That said, I agree that a simple look through the threads on the first page of the forum would have provided the answer the OP was looking for. But, there's no way to make everyone fall in line with forum etiquette.

Well I guess we should talk to XDA and have them make a separate section for a "Motorola RAZR" so we don't confuse those with a Motorola RAZR or a "Motorola Droid RAZR" Lets make sure we are all technical about it jk

More sales?!?
The most surprising thing about Moto/Verizon and the delays in releasing ICS to all of their phones (including my Maxx!!) is that they are hampering additional sales of new devices to new users...yes, SALES...it makes the world go 'round. I'm a CEO of a group of manufacturing companies and, very simply, you do whatever it takes to continue making SALES. The Maxx is already so good, why wouldn't you hustle ICS out to these phones...you would see NEW customers lining up around Verizon stores to purchase these devices, and all exclaiming "iPhone who?" (incidentally, I gave up my 4S about a month ago to come back to the customization capabilities of Android to make my phone a better productivity tool than my iPhone 4S was...couldn't be happier, btw).
So wake up Moto/Verizon...generate more device SALES and satisfy your shareholders, if for no other reason....and crank out some ICS for everyone!!!
Doug

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has anyone been checking the servers?

i ask because theres got to be more out there than what we have even if its just an official update to 2.3.5, id be fine with that if its unlocked... but im starting to think were not getting the unlocked bl..
i just checked the servers and up until q4 or whatever they were saying my device was up to date, so idk
ill, personally keep checking them every day/every other day
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What do you mean by "checking" them? Can you, or someone show me how to do it?
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What do you mean by "checking" them? Can you, or someone show me how to do it?
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Check the Cheesecake thread in the this forum -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226664
As it is, I don't think there has been anything new. I believe Motorola has pretty much abandoned the X2. Not even a year old and already, they've orphaned it. Typical.
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Ive never been able to pull anything from the servers.
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iBolski said:
Check the Cheesecake thread in the this forum -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226664
As it is, I don't think there has been anything new. I believe Motorola has pretty much abandoned the X2. Not even a year old and already, they've orphaned it. Typical.
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Unfortunately, Motorola is a bit overzealous with their phones (as they've always been, IMHO); they released 16 android devices for 2011 (as noted here And even with that they'd announced devices for 2012, with the new focus on 4G and HD screens, etc.
I wish I could say I'm surprised, but big company, big aspirations, they're gonna follow the money. I just wish that since they obviously are going to toss it aside, they could just give us everything. Just say **** it, we're not going to do any more go to town on it guys.
Skelente said:
Unfortunately, Motorola is a bit overzealous with their phones (as they've always been, IMHO); they released 16 android devices for 2011 (as noted here And even with that they'd announced devices for 2012, with the new focus on 4G and HD screens, etc.
I wish I could say I'm surprised, but big company, big aspirations, they're gonna follow the money. I just wish that since they obviously are going to toss it aside, they could just give us everything. Just say **** it, we're not going to do any more go to town on it guys.
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That's why I've sent an email to everyone lines in the Unlock Bootloader thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427802). It was pretty lengthy too. It even went to the CEO of Motorola Mobility. Not sure if that will get their attention, but if enough of us do it, then it could make a difference.
Has ANY Motorola devices (other than tablets) received an official ICS update? If not, Im not too worried. Once they start pushing out updates for ICS and time continues to go by without an update for us, I will start to worry. As far as an official 2.3.5 update goes, I dont care if we get that officially or not. Its not that big of an update.
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Has ANY Motorola devices (other than tablets) received an official ICS update? If not, Im not too worried. Once they start pushing out updates for ICS and time continues to go by without an update for us, I will start to worry. As far as an official 2.3.5 update goes, I dont care if we get that officially or not. Its not that big of an update.
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The leaked one was not the official as stated before. I'm wondering were it it since we got the last 2 updates every 2 months.

ICS on RAZR official page?

is this page real? it says ICS 4.0 on RAZR
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...es/Mobile-Phones/DROID-RAZR-BY-MOTOROLA-US-EN
Don't forget word "upgradable" in there...
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It is real but states ics upgradeable. We all know they plan to roll it out soon. Exactly when is anybody's guess.
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orateam said:
is this page real? it says ICS 4.0 on RAZR
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...es/Mobile-Phones/DROID-RAZR-BY-MOTOROLA-US-EN
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^This guy.
orateam said:
is this page real? it says ICS 4.0 on RAZR
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...es/Mobile-Phones/DROID-RAZR-BY-MOTOROLA-US-EN
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GOD, Thought it could be something different than I monitor every few hours on this page with lot of hopes on ICS.... ... Same old thing....
'Plan to roll it out soon'.....ha, got a good laugh outta that one. 'Soon' is when a Dev gets it ported over and it's working. Not the Moto 'soon' which would be sometime in 13'....
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'Plan to roll it out soon'.....ha, got a good laugh outta that one. 'Soon' is when a Dev gets it ported over and it's working. Not the Moto 'soon' which would be sometime in 13'....
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Surely not in '13!! The update that leaked at least should tide us until Spring or Summer when they actually release it. If it isn't out by then it will be a big disappointment for me.
Spoke to a Verizon tech today regarding webtop and he let me know that his razr is running the ICS official. He also has a copy of the CM9 ruining on another RAZR. They keep tight tabs on the community so that know how to teach sales staff when a phone is rooted , rom'd or other hack. Just thought that was interesting
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orateam said:
Spoke to a Verizon tech today regarding webtop and he let me know that his razr is running the ICS official. He also has a copy of the CM9 ruining on another RAZR. They keep tight tabs on the community so that know how to teach sales staff when a phone is rooted , rom'd or other hack. Just thought that was interesting
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[irony]They've got two RAZRs running two roms that were not yet released? WOW! Verizon techs kicks more ass than Chuck Norris himself!!![/irony]
Sense much BS in your post though. For real - you're feeding some VERY provocative rumors. Regardless of their basis.
GaroRobe said:
[irony]They've got two RAZRs running two roms that were not yet released? WOW! Verizon techs kicks more ass than Chuck Norris himself!!![/irony]
Sense much BS in your post though. For real - you're feeding some VERY provocative rumors. Regardless of their basis.
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Seriously. The reps at the corporate store I was at were when they saw an unbranded, GSM RAZR; I was in there for the car dock.
Icecream sandwich update should be very quick on motorola phones as google owns the company now
and the way they have released i think 4 updates already within 1 month is very good for customers so ICS cant be that far away id imagine
GaroRobe said:
[irony]They've got two RAZRs running two roms that were not yet released? WOW! Verizon techs kicks more ass than Chuck Norris himself!!![/irony]
Sense much BS in your post though. For real - you're feeding some VERY provocative rumors. Regardless of their basis.
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i know my way around the tech parts of a phone. been around them as a developer and fan for some time. Verizon tech wasn't B.S.'ing me. I have no basis for spreading rumours. I immediately saw my error with this post on the website and have asked for it to be taken down just minutes after i posted it. But its taken on a discussion point because of the title. I will change that if i can.
orateam said:
i know my way around the tech parts of a phone. been around them as a developer and fan for some time. Verizon tech wasn't B.S.'ing me. I have no basis for spreading rumours. I immediately saw my error with this post on the website and have asked for it to be taken down just minutes after i posted it. But its taken on a discussion point because of the title. I will change that if i can.
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I know someone who works for Verizon corporate (not retail). Their techs definitely do have access to pre-release updates. It's how Verizon begins testing things before pushing them out to the public. He told me that the main reason Verizon takes its time with updates is that they test everything very thoroughly before release to limit calls to customer service once the OTA is pushed out. They want to make sure as many bugs as possible are squashed ahead of time. It's a wise angle to take, but doesn't leave "normal consumers" feeling all that great about things.
And what about retail version, who test it if there is no carrier? I suppose Motorola itself, now compare its speed (and stability) with your carrier - who will win?

DROID X2 not receiving ICS! (PERHAPS IT'S OFFICIAL?!)

See this article:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/0...-of-phones-to-get-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
Looks like everybody in the DX2 community will have to wait for an AOSP ICS from somebody!
Discuss!
EDIT: Apparently it's not official according to some XDA user's opinions, but I'm pretty sure it is official. In that list they didn't only mention 4G LTE devices, they also listed the Incredible 2 and the Rhyme which are both 3G devices. And also, the DROID Charge is 4G and it's left off the list. It's an assumption but I believe the list to be complete. Motorola and Verizon have no obligation to upgrade to ICS, even if the DX2 is within the 18 month upgrade period. Their 18 month upgrade period never stated how far upgrades would go and it has been upgraded multiple times already. I honestly don't mind if everybody gets their hopes up for Motorola/Verizon to release ICS for the DX2 because it's only going to let you down. If I'm wrong, fine. That's good for everybody with a DX2! I don't know why people have to come to this thread and act like hard-asses to get their point across. I was only releasing some news.
well the Verizon press release states that it is a list of 4G devices that will be upgraded.
then again the dinc2 isn't 4G, right?
I think that's the phone I should have gotten instead of this X2
Well, ever since I got my tablet and the ICS update on it, I haven't been doing much on my DX2 anyway. Shoot, I might just go back to a cheap flip phone.
Really liked the DX2, but I just don't understand why Motorola kicked it to the curb!
Yeah dude, that's just the 4g phones that are getting upgraded. Haven't said which 3g phones are getting it yet.
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Frankly I'm not surprised. I have a feeling there isn't enough RAM available in the X2 for an ICS install. My phone is always starved for RAM.
Don't want to bring any hope into this, but I'll be using something called a brain here for this. These are devices confirmed as of now to get it and on the Moto Upgrade site still lists the devices that are being evaluated to get it.
This is really just VZW rehashing what phone manufacturers have already announced, except they are directing this specifically at their customers. Nothing here we didn't already know, really. Of course they are going to try to get it going on the 4G devices first, that is this year's breadwinner.
I'm kinda over ICS now. lol
Yeah seems like it was all a pipe dream. Development is pretty quiet now but it's ok I'm content with CM7
CM7 DX2
**** it....
I think its the Verizon way of saying they aren't bothering upgrading any 3G devices. They just spent Billions building a 4G network that is sitting there doing next to nothing (except crashing every now and then). They need to get folks migrated to 4G ASAP.
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I think its the Verizon way of saying they aren't bothering upgrading any 3G devices. They just spent Billions building a 4G network that is sitting there doing next to nothing (except crashing every now and then). They need to get folks migrated to 4G ASAP.
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Well they are updating the DINC2.
list of Verizon Wireless 4G LTE devices currently scheduled to be upgraded.
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this just 4g, they aren't going say anything about other phones till, the 4g phones are upgraded
I have a feeling there isn't enough RAM available in the X2 for an ICS install.
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there's enough ram, not a lot
if a phone can run gingerbread it can run ICS, it's just a matter time and money, to make it work
jumping the gun syndrome
This is a classic case of the "jumping the gun syndrome".
1. The article says:
"We will continue to update this list as additional details become available throughout the year. Also, follow @VZWNews on Twitter for additional upgrade announcements."
2. The only Moto devices on the list are those that Moto confirmed a while back. I highly doubt Motorola is doing "planning and evaluation" on a bazillion devices just to ditch each and everyone of them.
Calm down gentlemen and ladies. Let's not get our panties in a bunch! Finally got a chance to say that...
Bad News!!!!
donlad said:
See this article:
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/0...-of-phones-to-get-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
Looks like everybody in the DX2 community will have to wait for an AOSP ICS from somebody!
Discuss!
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Sweet, when the other Moto phones receive it we will have upgrade eligibility anyhow.....your point?
This isn't my DX2
iCurmudgeon said:
Frankly I'm not surprised. I have a feeling there isn't enough RAM available in the X2 for an ICS install. My phone is always starved for RAM.
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I'm sure there's plenty, blur is just a pile of junk.
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**** it....
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+ 1......................
Kind of lost all hope of an OTA update awhile ago.
My faith is in our developers now, not Motorola or Verizon.
heh I also wonder what inc2 would have been like =)
when comparing them in the store i liked the DX2's camera better (and larger screen), should've took the warning it tried to give me when the first phone the employee gave me froze and didn't come back on lol
wow I just read the article fully and noticed bionic gets it, well that's just salting the wound... good thing non-commercial developers make better ****ing firmware than the official ones do anyway =(

Will ICS on the RAZR affect development for us DX2 users?

I'm rather new(6 months in) to the scene of flashing roms and sbf'ing and scripting and this sort of stuff. My question is this, since the Razr is Motorola's latest creation and it is said to be getting ICS starting today with an update, will this update play any role in possible development for a full blown ICS AOSP based rom (similar to CM7, I would guess) but with the elements of ICS all in one place. Without having to piece it all together to just look like ICS. Any insight on this would be cool to hear. I'm just curious, and can't upgrade until 2013
Thanks.
-David
unt0uchable said:
I'm rather new(6 months in) to the scene of flashing roms and sbf'ing and scripting and this sort of stuff. My question is this, since the Razr is Motorola's latest creation and it is said to be getting ICS starting today with an update, will this update play any role in possible development for a full blown ICS AOSP based rom (similar to CM7, I would guess) but with the elements of ICS all in one place. Without having to piece it all together to just look like ICS. Any insight on this would be cool to hear. I'm just curious, and can't upgrade until 2013
Thanks.
-David
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sir, first off you posted on the wrong forum, dx2 android dev, i ask a mod to move this to general
and tbh, i have no idea if this would affect us, but i do know the razr has an omap ti chip compared to our ****ty, locked down tegra2
I thought about where to post this and development seemed suitable. Sorry if I broke some rules or something, it just seemed like it might get more attention here being a development question and not just a general question.
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I thought about where to post this and development seemed suitable. Sorry if I broke some rules or something, it just seemed like it might get more attention here being a development question and not just a general question.
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which i fully understand, sir, but i dont think the razr will help us much, because of the chipset
I guess I should have clarified more, now that I think about it, I was thinking more like, would it be possible to take the pieces out of the ICS rom for the RAZR and some how incorporate them into the one of our current roms? Just different elements of the SBF file or systemui.apk. Like I said, I could be blowing smoke and sound completely ignorant about the topic, but I'm just gathering thoughts is all. And please, no need to call me sir. I'm a noob here. lol
-David
it is my understanding that the Razr got ICS by searching project CHEESECAKE
unt0uchable said:
I guess I should have clarified more, now that I think about it, I was thinking more like, would it be possible to take the pieces out of the ICS rom for the RAZR and some how incorporate them into the one of our current roms? Just different elements of the SBF file or systemui.apk. Like I said, I could be blowing smoke and sound completely ignorant about the topic, but I'm just gathering thoughts is all. And please, no need to call me sir. I'm a noob here. lol
-David
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This is kinda sorta what Dragonzkiller is doing with CM9 except he isn't pulling things directly from other systems.
I don't know how much alike the phones are but I'm willing to bet that at the very least the razrs framework might be worth glancing at.
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unt0uchable said:
I'm rather new(6 months in) to the scene of flashing roms and sbf'ing and scripting and this sort of stuff. My question is this, since the Razr is Motorola's latest creation and it is said to be getting ICS starting today with an update, will this update play any role in possible development for a full blown ICS AOSP based rom (similar to CM7, I would guess) but with the elements of ICS all in one place. Without having to piece it all together to just look like ICS. Any insight on this would be cool to hear. I'm just curious, and can't upgrade until 2013
Thanks.
-David
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Short answer: No.
Long answer: Heeeeeellll No! (What? It is longer, btw! )
My job is done here! Captain Obvious up and away!
Got my answer. Thanks all.
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Quick Answer: Not like you are thinking??
We won't get Official ICS, IF dzk ever gets the time away from class, we will see a PORT of cm9(which is ICS), but we will probably 'never' get ICS or any ICS Based ROM for a while. Too much stuff to do and not a lot of devs...also, personal life gets in the way a lot over on this end of Android.
It looks like the RAZR is already on the verge of taking the back seat to whatever Motorola/Verizon have on the horizon (Droid Fighter). I get an upgrade next month and have my fingers crossed in hopes that a variant of the HTC One X will come to Verzion (I would settle for an HTC Droid Incredible 4G at this point). This locked bootloader will be the death of development in the foreseeable future, if anything. Motorola makes solid hardware but doesn't want to us to play with it. It's a damn shame.
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It looks like the RAZR is already on the verge of taking the back seat to whatever Motorola/Verizon have on the horizon (Droid Fighter). I get an upgrade next month and have my fingers crossed in hopes that a variant of the HTC One X will come to Verzion (I would settle for an HTC Droid Incredible 4G at this point). This locked bootloader will be the death of development in the foreseeable future, if anything. Motorola makes solid hardware but doesn't want to us to play with it. It's a damn shame.
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True its a shame. The locked bootloader is a big reason I gave up on my X2. The possibilities on the phone could be endless if they'd unlock it but that will never happen cuz Motorola is Big Reds B$%ch. But dragonzkiller still might pull it off for u guys with cm9 in his spare time, and hopefully he will.
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True its a shame. The locked bootloader is a big reason I gave up on my X2. The possibilities on the phone could be endless if they'd unlock it but that will never happen cuz Motorola is Big Reds B$%ch. But dragonzkiller still might pull it off for u guys with cm9 in his spare time, and hopefully he will.
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These reasons will be the same reason I end up with an HTC after my upgrade. I never though I would go to them but they have far surpassed moto in the support of the dev community. Thanks for the opinions guys.
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The possibilities on the phone could be endless if they'd unlock it but that will never happen cuz Motorola is Big Reds B$%ch.
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Thats why I'm still hoping Cspire or some other smaller carrier pushes Moto to keep this MX2 updated, especially since they just added the device to their lineup a few months ago.
754boy said:
Thats why I'm still hoping Cspire or some other smaller carrier pushes Moto to keep this MX2 updated, especially since they just added the device to their lineup a few months ago.
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Don't know why they would treat the mx2 differently
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It's been said already, but there is no way in hell the DX/DX2 are getting ICS from Motorola. Dragonkiller is probably the best bet and I know he mentioned in another thread he had lots of personal life stuff till at least summer.
Simple answer: No one should be buying Motorola. Send them a message. The Galaxy S III should be out soon and HTC has a decent quad core in the pipeline. Stop buying Motorola phones!
My DX2 does run better then my DX did but that's only because of DK's CM7 port. If VZW's insurance company did not give me the DX2 for a replacement of the DX I had, I would have never owned this phone. It sucks you have until 2013 but with any luck a CM9 p
ort will get done. In 2013 if the world has not ended yet and the time finally comes for your upgrade, I hope you remember Motorola screwing you and not buy another Motorola device. Don't buy into the owned by Google thing, they are still the same company and play by the same rules. Have they removed the encrypted bootloader? No and they won't because Google may own them but they are not interfering with any of Motorolas business practices. Also don't forget Google has become VZW's b*tch lately too so don't expect Google to stand up for you.
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It's been said already, but there is no way in hell the DX/DX2 are getting ICS from Motorola. Dragonkiller is probably the best bet and I know he mentioned in another thread he had lots of personal life stuff till at least summer.
Simple answer: No one should be buying Motorola. Send them a message. The Galaxy S III should be out soon and HTC has a decent quad core in the pipeline. Stop buying Motorola phones!
My DX2 does run better then my DX did but that's only because of DK's CM7 port. If VZW's insurance company did not give me the DX2 for a replacement of the DX I had, I would have never owned this phone. It sucks you have until 2013 but with any luck a CM9 p
ort will get done. In 2013 if the world has not ended yet and the time finally comes for your upgrade, I hope you remember Motorola screwing you and not buy another Motorola device. Don't buy into the owned by Google thing, they are still the same company and play by the same rules. Have they removed the encrypted bootloader? No and they won't because Google may own them but they are not interfering with any of Motorolas business practices. Also don't forget Google has become VZW's b*tch lately too so don't expect Google to stand up for you.
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Amen to this.
Although I'm half-way flattered about your comments about my work, this is posted in the wrong forum.
The X2 will never get official ICS and my CM9 port is the only ICS ROM that will probably ever be released for it. Maybe AOKP if I were to ever get the chance, but who in the hell ever knows.
TLDR: Wrong forums, no ice cream fo you! (yet)
Thread moved to General as not a development thread.

Warning Potential International Razr Maxx Buyers

Removed the OP as well as other threads OP in protest due to the abusive I endured by some XDA members. In spite of reporting them to the moderates of the forums in question and my views were shared with more members than the abusers one of my threads was closed instead.
To those truly care about technology and its surrounding matters, please accept my sincere apologies for this inconvenience. I will no longer be part of the XDA community. Thank you.
Only speculations and you don't have any sources for your statements.
ICS is set to release Q2 for RAZR (not MAXXX, don't know when they will receive it but i'm pretty sure Moto wont hold to long) in Europe and LATAM. Confirmed on Motorola's homepage.
romdroid. said:
Only speculations and you don't have any sources for your statements.
ICS is set to release Q2 for RAZR (not MAXXX, don't know when they will receive it but i'm pretty sure Moto wont hold to long) in Europe and LATAM. Confirmed on Motorola's homepage.
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Thank you. If you let me know what point(s) were speculated and how that effected the thread then I would be happy to engage in a debate with you.
1. Release of new phones from Motorola is inevitable
2. ICS delay is very clear with the update that is few days old. Why Motorola need to push an update when they are about to release a major update? Because they are not about to release ICS that soon
3. One major update per phone. Fact not a speculation. Release history of Motorola is very evident that is also practiced by other manufactures.
4. Motorola had never released the same number of updates for international users for a given Android version that they did for US users.
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Since you have accused my OP to be just speculations shouldn't you provide sources to prove me wrong in the interest of XDA members?
CSharpHeaven said:
I have previously started a thread in here on XDA stating what Motorola is up to in regards with international Razr Maxx. Please read it in the following link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25015770#post25015770
Now that it has been confirmed that International Razr Maxx will be launched with Gingerbread you want to read what I have to say to protect your investment.
As much as you want the Razr Maxx I want it to but with Motorola international buyers need to be extra smart. The release of ICS has been delayed in the US due to the launch of Razr Maxx internationally. For the time being, the US owners received an update which I hope the same updates are already applied to the international edition which is about to be released in the UK mid-May, otherwise the international edition of Razr Maxx would never receive any Gingerbread updates until ICS.
Motorola is releasing Razr Maxx close to the end of first half of 2012 with Gingerbread. This is intentional since Motorola would only provide one major update for its international phones. This will be a bad deal considering the timing when Jelly Beans is in the making and ICS is already over six months old. Google will push out Jelly Beans much quicker for boosting the Tablet market.
Now, in order for Motorola to release ICS for Razr Maxx they need to release their new phones first. There are already enough hints on the internet to know Motorola may have up to two new Razr variations that you might want to wait for since these new phones will be more powerful and will be released with ICS on board. These new phones are assured to get the next Android version.
Another important fact you need to consider is that Motorola can potentially take their time up to 18 months before releasing ICS for international users counting from the launch date in the respective countries.
Please consider my above points to avoid disappointments.
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*All Speculation. Citation needed..
On Austria/Germany - Website of Moto they claim that the new Razr Maxx will definitely start with ICS from the beginning....
So whats true now?
I admit up to the nearest past Moto was extremely awfull concerning support for european users - still lots of arrogance and ignorance for the european market.
For those who are waiting for a maxx should consider the upcoming razr hd or maybe galaxy s3 instead.
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"The release of ICS has been delayed in the US due to the launch of Razr Maxx internationally."
In 03 April, 2012 the european release of Razr Maxx was announced. Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...-coming-to-Europe-and-the-Middle-East_id28709
In 05 April, 2012 then there was a sudden delay in ICS release. Source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...s-rezound-is-still-on-schedule-for-april-6th/
"I hope the same updates are already applied to the international edition which is about to be released in the UK mid-May, otherwise the international edition of Razr Maxx would never receive any Gingerbread updates until ICS."
I own two Motorola phones that were bought in the UK. None never released minor updates when the USA users have. To prove me, completely, wrong refer to the log history of Motorola Defy and Atrix on Motorola site because I'm not going to waste my time to satisfy your need for proof. You need equally make efforts to prove me wrong other than highlighting my words in red, otherwise next time you shouldn't challenge someone if you are not prepared to be challenged.
"This is intentional since Motorola would only provide one major update for its international phones."
I have already covered that. You are clearly don't know how things work in Android world. Besides, in practice this is what Motorola has done since they entered in Android game but they have never made it official about anything. Even in the following page they state the information is for guidelines, https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c. So you demanding for a proof shows how ignorant you are.
"Google will push out Jelly Beans much quicker for boosting the Tablet market."
Obviously you don't read much. Source to your precious citation fixation http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2402724,00.asp
"Motorola can potentially take their time up to 18 months before releasing ICS"
Do you read much? Obviously not otherwise you would know about Google's agreement with manufacturers. Source: http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/ My statement is a fact to a potential event.
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On Austria/Germany - Website of Moto they claim that the new Razr Maxx will definitely start with ICS from the beginning....
So whats true now?
I admit up to the nearest past Moto was extremely awfull concerning support for european users - still lots of arrogance and ignorance for the european market.
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Every UK sites listing Razr Maxx with Gingerbread. Considering most phone distributed from Germany I found it strange that ICS would be on Razr Maxx.
Nikorasu said:
For those who are waiting for a maxx should consider the upcoming razr hd or maybe galaxy s3 instead.
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Thank you. One of the reasons to my OP.
maybe a kind note. but not a big warning. warning to me is an escalation to a very high level.
and to be frank, I have both GNex with ICS and Razr Maxx with GB.
I somehow don't know which one is better. meaning Stock GB works well for me.
And as a developer, because of such a big portion of phones now are using GB, I put extra care to make sure my app works in GB, while ICS is secondary when there is a conflict.
But ICS is the future, sure. for now, GB is the focus.
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*All Speculation. Citation needed..
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By the way, you are the same member who tried to discredit me in my other thread covering the same concerns. After your latest attempt I will no longer reply to your posts and if I recognised you sooner I wouldn't have bothered with you. Nevertheless, once again it is proven that my intentions are good whereas yours are not, in my threads.
I DO APPRECIATE OPs effort to put up a note to all of US
THANKS button clicked here.
Such threads are much more helpful than some pointless rants.
moto won't even update my Defy past 2.2 even though it would be trivial to release the 2.3 Defy+ ROM as an OTA for the older Defy midweek. moto sucks
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moto won't even update my Defy past 2.2 even though it would be trivial to release the 2.3 Defy+ ROM as an OTA for the older Defy midweek. moto sucks
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I own Defy too, not expecting much, just have been waiting for bugs to be fixed like forever.
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On Austria/Germany - Website of Moto they claim that the new Razr Maxx will definitely start with ICS from the beginning....
So whats true now?
I admit up to the nearest past Moto was extremely awfull concerning support for european users - still lots of arrogance and ignorance for the european market.
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"We confirmed with Motorola that 4.0 is indeed coming with the new phones, but apparently other countries won't be getting the same treatment. In the UK, for example, it'll be shipping with Android 2.3, with an upgrade coming sometime in the second quarter. Ice Cream Sandwich may be "ready for the German market" already, as we're told, but we're not sure where Motorola currently stands on the rest of its upgrade roadmap." -- TheVerge
You were right to your claim but UK as I knew it will get Gingerbread. This will upset the US owners as Motorola has no even an estimate for the release date, true the last time I checked.
That could mean Motorola is targeting their new phones i.e. Razr variation for the UK market first just before releasing the ICS upgrade. In other words, the new phone(s) will arrive in Germany much later. Motorola must be very busy to take some of the fun away from Samsung in the UK where they are doing well and about to launch Galaxy S3 shorty before the commencement of the London Olympics.
Engadget just reported from a Verizon's leaked upgrade schedule that Razr and Razr Maxx ICS update is available via OTA in 21 May, 2012 and in full in 25 May, 2012. If accurate, at least Germans and USA users would get ICS almost at same time.
Nikorasu said:
For those who are waiting for a maxx should consider the upcoming razr hd or maybe galaxy s3 instead.
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why? as soon as you buy those phones in a couple months something better will be out.
"There will also be a number of Motorola RAZR smartphones with the RAZR HD being one of them with a bigger and clearer display." -- ITProPortal source: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/04/26/htc-rival-galaxy-s3-appears/
The above mentioned handsets are expected in Q3 for Verizon.
In the same article you will read the following also;
"Not sure whether it will get Jelly Bean (Android 5.0) or Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0). Either way, this Samsung Galaxy Note rival almost certainly means that there will be no follow up to the HTC Flyer."
I wasn't being out of this planet taking about Jelly Beans for 2012 appearance and link it to tables.
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why? as soon as you buy those phones in a couple months something better will be out.
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Even though you have a point but in this instance it looks like the release of Razr HD is too close to the release of Razr Maxx.
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Even though you have a point but in this instance it looks like the release of Razr HD is too close to the release of Razr Maxx.
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and the razr maxx was too close to the original razr.
see the pattern here?

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