So I noticed when trying to install things that want to go into the system directory I no longer can because there is no more space (im at 503MB used and 823kb free), what I dont understand is why are my google play apps putting anything in there in the first place and not just going into my 2GB internal storage like there supposed too and also why when using titanium backup I move apps to SD but yet they are still there in the system area and I still havnt free'd up any space?.
Confused and dont know why its not getting fixed, can anyone help me on how I can get all my apps moved to the 2GB internal storage like there supposed to be and clean up my system storage so I have free space to install mods please.
Thank you.
Okay so I got it all figured out and I mainly just needed to convert the additional apps my carriers CSC/Hidden files added to a user app and it freed up some space, but now im wondering what else can I convert to a user app to free up more system rom space? I moved googled maps that seems to be fine but not sure about a lot of others that are included into all stock samsung firmwares.
Also why didn't Samsung just parition the system rom section to be bigger?... the newest firmwares are using up more and more space to the point where they will barly fit those in let alone anything else from the carriers that they wanna add on... Seems like they would of been better off giving the system rom a 1GB instead of 512MBs.
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Hi
Sorry not a high tech question but would appreciate some help
Re. my viewpad 7
Seems to be constantly short of inbuilt memory.
(should be 512mb)
was down to zero today though have not addded anything for a while.
Clearing cache and history via browser took it back up to 8 mb but already with an hours use down to 6mb again.
Have moved everything that Apps manager allows over to the (16GB) SD card, which still has lots of space.
Neither of the "File Explorer" or "Settings/SD card and phone storage" routes let me actually see what's in phone memory.
Pad is "as bought" re rom's etc
Would appreciate any help.
thx
Russ
It's got 512mb total, which is split over different partitions.
You are running out of space on the /data partition, try uninstalling some apps, or use an app like apps2sd to move some to your sd card.
Thanks for quick response but have tried deleting a few apps and have already moved everything that can be moved onto sd card
have downloaded a couple of versions of app2sd apps 2sd etc but they do not offer any more suggestions on apps that can be moved as I say I have aready moved all that seem moveable
It does seem that it's some sort of data thats the problem but I can't see into the inbuilt memory to see what data it is or from what app
rgds
russ
It is stupid Android. When you move apps to SD, than still some (usualy bigger) parts is still in internal memory. When you move apps to SD, than info about occupied space is valid only for occupied space on SD by the apps. If you want to know how big is the application than you have to move back to internal memory, than info is correct.
Also some updating of system apss can consume very big space of internal memory. For example Aldiko can occupy 6MB !!!!
The problem is, when you install a new app either from Android Market, Amazon App Store or anywhere else, the system retains the .apk install file somewhere in memory. I'm yet to find where those files are stored.
You can use a file manager like Astro File manager to see all the files on your viewpad 7's internal memory however, manipulating those files is a bit trickier. I thought I found them in a \sys\data directory or something like that but the system refuses to let me delete them.
Does anyone know for certain where these .apk files are stored. I've deleted/moved everything I can and am down to the apps that I need on the unit. If I have to delete more, then there is no sense having a small form-factor tablet. The space that is being used is far above the applications that I have installed so there has to be garbage files somewhere that need cleaned up.
Hi, I'm new to these forums having just recently rooted/modded my phone. There's been tons of helpful information on here so thank you, but I haven't found someone with this exact question or with what seems like a good solution yet. Any help would be appreciated.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant (Tmobile US) and I modded it with Cyanogenmod 7.1.0.1 and everything works great, except trying to download large(ish) apps from the market. Smaller apps download and install fine (few MB). But when I try to download the "Wind-up Knight" game for example, it says "Error downloading 'Wind-up Knight'. There is insufficient space on the device." That game is 41.64MB. My storage is almost completely empty. I upped my internal storage partition to 4GB form the default 2GB just to test but it didn't help. So my storage looks like:
SDCARD
Total Space 10.84GB
Available 10.75GB
INTERNAL STORAGE
Total space 3.75GB
Available 3.68GB
ADDITIONAL STORAGE (/mnt/emmc)
Total Space 1.84GB
Available 1.84GB
When I first installed CM7 mod, I cleared cache and then installed mod. I thought maybe I didn't clear everything right so I went back and formatted everything except BOOT and SYSTEM and reinstalled CM7 mod. And I still get this error, even when it's the only app I'm trying to install right after clean format and mod.
I saw in another older thread on CM nightlies someone had mentioned deleting the marketcache and moving it to the emmc partition for more storage space. But all my partitions are pretty much completely empty so there should be plenty of space. I also saw solutions to clear cache or dalvik cache so I've tried clearing all cache I could find including those two.
I'm not sure if this is a CM mod problem, a Vibrant specific problem, or an Android problem so hopefully I'm not posting in the wrong spot. Any help tracking down a solution would be appreciated.
Thanks!
-Jon
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
Sorry about that, new and wasn't sure which forum exactly it should go in. Thanks for moving it for me though.
Just as an update in case anyone checks this. I completely formatted all partitions last night (except /boot) and then put CM7 back on and large apps still say insufficient space. Not a huge deal since there really aren't that many apps that large, I just want to figure it out now.
Some devices have a download limit size for apps from the market. Before a conclusion is drawn (that your device is one of these), open root explorer and navigate to "cache/download". Delete all files in that folder (if there are any) and try to download the app again. To find out for sure your device's download limit size of apps from the market, go back to that folder (using root explorer) and check how much space is free (located just under the folder's name at the top when you are inside the folder).
Theonew, that did it. I actually used ES file explorer (rooted and system mounted), deleted everything out of the /cache folder (there was no specific download folder). And a few apps crashed lol, but then I retried downloading and it worked. Thanks for the help!
I've been having this same problem on Captivate, Illuminance 3.0. Clearing cache did not work. Rebooting my phone each time it starts happening did work. It would seem the cache clear and reboot solutions would be tied to the same "problem" people are running into.
Hello people, just wondering if there is any App that a designed part of size of the microSD and simulate that's internal memory, something like that cause the real thing is that I am getting without free space on my internal memory....
I have moved several app to SD card but this is not enough it seems..
any idea?
thanks
BR,
chatfan
This is a common and well know issue on desire phones due the limited internal space memory... the only way to solve it (but you still will have a "limited" device) is the procedure which starts from rooting the device and procede thru several steps... unlocking it, installing a custom recovery, installing a cooked rom... then optimizing the whole system.
you can install an app called app sd to make sure you have all the movable apps moved. also going through and clearing the cache and or data in some apps can free up MBs of space.
if that is still not enough i would suggest rooting which would allow you to delete some of the system apps you dont need.
still not enough? then go full blown and get a custom rom going. there is a whole section of xda devoted to it. take a look. and good luck.
If you are rooted, then goto the following thread ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670087
"Ever wondered why??"
Hi there, noob speaking... (at least in terms of Android)
Let's start with the fact that I bought rooted phone with Cyanogenmod alredy installed which is my 1st Android device. That way I omitted few steps of learning how to root, how to flash it, etc. not to mention that I'm not a Linux guy, so even the way system handles folders and files is new for me. As the problem is more phone-related than system-related I'm posting it here, on XDA.
I'm trying to learn how to partition an "internal SD card" to make it work with Link2SD. I've found lots of tutorials how to do this with an external memory card, but there is not much info about doing the same with internal storage. I've found a tutorial for a diffrent phone, but I'm worried that droid devices seem to be very diffrent and simply retyping everything without understanding what I'm actually doing may cause more harm than good.
My biggest objection is the fact that I'm alredy using my internal SD and beside various media files (photos, music, etc.) there are lots of system, or app related stuff there. There are folders like .android_secure which as I guess store app-related files (or even parts of apps that I moved to SD with build-in feature). If this was Windows, I'd simply back up everything, format it, partition into "general storage" and "app memory" and put backed up files back directly onto new partition only worrying to keep correct letters assigned to new partitions. I'm preety sure that doing same in Android (by copying everything to PC and back to phone) would not work because all those permisions, or am I wrong?
Anyway - Any advice how to do this?
Additional question is related to accessing whole phone memory via PC connected by USB. I know that Android phones are made with security in mind and "system" partition is hidden when connecting USB, but there should be some other way than browsing everything from some phone apps with root permissions. I'd really like to browse my phone both for educational reasons and to check what really takes up space on my "system storage". I'm suspecting that some app went crazy eating lots of space, because once every time I uninstalled something my storage after few minutes was again at 20mb level and it continiued for some time.
BTW: Is there any reason why having about 200mb empty space for apps is not enough to install or update some small applications, while other install even when just 100mb is left?
Tl;dr:
-How to partition internal SD to make it work with link2sd while there are some system/app files on internal SD alredy?
-How to browse "system memory" from PC via USB?
-Why some apps don't install when there is still 200mb+ free space?
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to get this straight once and for all from you, the experts.
I have bought this cheapo Chinese device (yeah, I know...)
The guy selling it swore on his life that the device had 12gb of storage for app installation.
I didn't quite believe that so I asked him to send me a benchmark screenshot to see what was the storage situation and he sent me this:
i.imgur.com/KAyugUv.jpg
So as it says, while it has 12.5 GB of "Internal Storage", it only has 0.68 GB available of System Storage...
And my understanding is that, lots of apps simply Won't install anywhere else besides the System Storage, and even if you can Move the app to the internal storage, it will Still take up some space on the system storage...
Am I understanding this correctly?
If that is so then, does that mean that after my apps use up that measly 680 MB of space on the device I am "SOL" and I won't be able to install anything else on the device??
Thanks for the help!
crodps said:
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to get this straight once and for all from you, the experts.
I have bought this cheapo Chinese device (yeah, I know...)
The guy selling it swore on his life that the device had 12gb of storage for app installation.
I didn't quite believe that so I asked him to send me a benchmark screenshot to see what was the storage situation and he sent me this:
i.imgur.com/KAyugUv.jpg
So as it says, while it has 12.5 GB of "Internal Storage", it only has 0.68 GB available of System Storage...
And my understanding is that, lots of apps simply Won't install anywhere else besides the System Storage, and even if you can Move the app to the internal storage, it will Still take up some space on the system storage...
Am I understanding this correctly?
If that is so then, does that mean that after my apps use up that measly 680 MB of space on the device I am "SOL" and I won't be able to install anything else on the device??
Thanks for the help!
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You can set the setting to directly install to Internal Storage
AzrulHisyam said:
You can set the setting to directly install to Internal Storage
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Thanks!
This unit has android 4.4.4
Could you post a walkthrough on how to do that so that no apps take space under System Storage?
crodps said:
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to get this straight once and for all from you, the experts.
I have bought this cheapo Chinese device (yeah, I know...)
The guy selling it swore on his life that the device had 12gb of storage for app installation.
I didn't quite believe that so I asked him to send me a benchmark screenshot to see what was the storage situation and he sent me this:
i.imgur.com/KAyugUv.jpg
So as it says, while it has 12.5 GB of "Internal Storage", it only has 0.68 GB available of System Storage...
And my understanding is that, lots of apps simply Won't install anywhere else besides the System Storage, and even if you can Move the app to the internal storage, it will Still take up some space on the system storage...
Am I understanding this correctly?
If that is so then, does that mean that after my apps use up that measly 680 MB of space on the device I am "SOL" and I won't be able to install anything else on the device??
Thanks for the help!
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look ..if he means by system storage (the size of the ROM that will be installed) that mean you have 12 GB for your apps and that what i think it means(no android system can take 12gb !!)......and for moving your apps....you can try towelroot to root your device and install any app that can help you moving your apps....or try to go to settings>>apps>>and press the menu button and see if there is a option called...preferred installation bath or something like that>>>set it to removable sd card
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look ..if he means by system storage (the size of the ROM that will be installed) that mean you have 12 GB for your apps and that what i think it means(no android system can take 12gb !!)......and for moving your apps....you can try towelroot to root your device and install any app that can help you moving your apps....or try to go to settings>>apps>>and press the menu button and see if there is a option called...preferred installation bath or something like that>>>set it to removable sd card
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I found this on another page:
"System Storage" is where the OS and the System Applications are installed. This could also be considered where the User application are installed (based on your question). User installed applications are installed in /data/apps, settings and app data is stored in /data/data, and then application cache data is stored in /cache. These are all part of the "System Storage".
Internal Storage is an area that is used like an sdcard. As far as the Android OS is concerned, it is an sdcard. Some applications may save data to it, but it is mainly used as direct storage for your stuff. Like pictures taken with the camera, music, ringtones, things like that.
You cannot just adjust the size of system memory. Is it technically possible, yes. But doing so could require you to have knowledge of linux tool, rooting, custom roms, recoveries, and even possibly having to compile your own linux kernel and ROM or other information that I am not thinking of at the moment. Which is well beyond the scope of this site.
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So that basically means is that all apps by default will install themselves or lots of info about them on the 1gb System Storage... And that translates to running out of space almost instantly if I start installing apps...
Perhaps the Root option could help alleviate some of this space constriction by forcing all apps to install in the Internal storage and leave the System storage completely alone?
crodps said:
I found this on another page:
So that basically means is that all apps by default will install themselves or lots of info about them on the 1gb System Storage... And that translates to running out of space almost instantly if I start installing apps...
Perhaps the Root option could help alleviate some of this space constriction by forcing all apps to install in the Internal storage and leave the System storage completely alone?
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yeah that's right ..root can help...but i don't think 12 gb is gone like that just for system !> :cyclops: