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http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/7176-htc-sensation-4g-evo-3d-death-grip
"Tests carried out by NordicHardware show that the HTC Sensation 4G loses WiFi and Bluetooth strength when gripped in a certain way. Using a signal measuring app and regular audio apps, NordicHardware shows how the HTC Sensation 4G rapidly loses Bluetooth and Wi-Fi signal, even if its just sitting flat on the palm of your hand. The loss is substantial, with as much as 20 to 30 dBm down in connection speeds."
Will we see a similar issue with the evo 3d?
lmbebo said:
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/7176-htc-sensation-4g-evo-3d-death-grip
"Tests carried out by NordicHardware show that the HTC Sensation 4G loses WiFi and Bluetooth strength when gripped in a certain way. Using a signal measuring app and regular audio apps, NordicHardware shows how the HTC Sensation 4G rapidly loses Bluetooth and Wi-Fi signal, even if its just sitting flat on the palm of your hand. The loss is substantial, with as much as 20 to 30 dBm down in connection speeds."
Will we see a similar issue with the evo 3d?
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The sensation's antennas are built into the back plate while the Evo's arent. Still, you would think HTC would have learned from apples mistakes...
I quickly lose Bluetooth connection on my Evo 4G when holding it in most positions. It cuts in and out just bouncing around in my pocket.
Seems like something you would test before you release a phone. Still surprised at what gets over looked.
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So who holds their phone like that?
Not me!!!
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xHausx said:
The sensation's antennas are built into the back plate while the Evo's arent. Still, you would think HTC would have learned from apples mistakes...
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I don't have my pre-production EVO 3D, but a test Sensation 4G. I did the death grip 4 times, and nothing happened. I've never encounter that mistake on any HTC device I've had in my possession. Then again, why would I hold it that way? I take those test as if Apple are suffering with that mistake, Android devices must be suffering with it too. That's my opinion, because this is the first time I've even heard of this problem.
To quote the great Steve Jobs "don't hold it that way"
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That's my opinion, because this is the first time I've even heard of this problem.
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A lot of Android phones have this problem... Maybe not death grip but holding it sideways will lose reception with WiFi and even Bluetooth..
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nate420 said:
A lot of Android phones have this problem... Maybe not death grip but holding it sideways will lose reception with WiFi and even Bluetooth..
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Really? Let me try doing it with 4 different devices. Is it WiFi and Bluetooth both on, or is it separately?
Edit: Tried the Thunderbolt, Sensation 4G, Inspire 4G, Droid Charge, and the trusty EVO. WiFi and Bluetooth : no problems.
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Really? Let me try doing it with 4 different devices. Is it WiFi and Bluetooth both on, or is it separately?
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Mostly WiFi... But the g2x and sgs4g does it with both.... That I've tested
Id say try separate
I rarely use Bluetooth and only noticed it on WiFi
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mykrlz182 said:
To quote the great Steve Jobs "don't hold it that way"
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yes!!!!!!! logic!!!!
Yeah, I really hope the Evo 3D doesn't have that issue.. that's just what I need--all my smug iPhone friends coming over and giving me crap.
Can we change the name of this thread to "death gripe"?
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Yep, I dropped my EVO 4G taking it out of my pocked in a parking lot today, and the screen is cracked to he!!. Need to decide whether to get another EVO 4G or move to the EVO 3D.
I like the idea of the better quality screen and faster processor in the 3D, but from reading some if the "issues" threads here and elsewhere, not looking for a new device that will randomly reboot, have worse reception, overheat faster (it's flipping hot here in Houston!), etc. The lack of a kickstand and where they place the charging port seems like a huge fail as well.
I don't root or anything like that. This is a work phone and to be honest, I don't have the time to mess with rooting and stuff. I just need it to work right out of the box. I have a 16GB micro SD card that I will use for storing pictures, music, etc. I currently use the Sprint extended battery (2600 mAh) in my EVO 4G and get through a normal day with 35-40% left. Not sure if I will need an extended battery with the 3D?
Anyway, for those of you that came from the EVO 4G, was it worthwhile?
Thanks!
Jason
Well the only deciding factor is whether or not you want HTC Sense 3.0. Yes the phone is faster and such but if you don't root your phone you won't truly take advantage of all it has to offer.
My advice is to go to the sprint store and try out their in-store demo and see for yourself if you want to upgrade.
I personally have the EVO 4G and the EVO 3D and they are both great devices, the EVO 3D just improves on the 4G tremendously.
its a worthy upgrade. do it
also keep in mind that the galaxy s2 is coming to sprint soon. another bad ass smartphone. they say within the next month or two.
but why wait.
id pull the plug if i were u im really starting to love this phone
I broke the screen on my og evo and after bictching at sprint for not repairing it I got an upgrade early so I sold my evo 4G plus extended battery for 160$ (with broken screen) I pay 55$ out my pocket and i'm a happy camper, and besides sometimes the camera app getting freeze after opening vertically, everything else works the same, you will need a second battery if you use it the much but this one does have a longer battery life tho so is up to you, the one the seido came out is ugly as hell so im waiting to see if htc gets a nice one like the one they did for the thunderbolt (really like the phone when had it btw)
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Just went by my local Sprint store to take a look at the 3D. Good news is that the 3D will still fit in my universal car cradle. I was worried that the charing port would be covered by the left side of the cradle, but the port is high enough up on the side to clear.
I use this universal car cradle, BTW:
http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-SM410-Universal-Windshield-Smartphones/dp/B003ELOOZO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312321220&sr=8-1
Though a little weary of the stock battery life, I told my IT guy to get me the 3D. Hopefully it gets drop-shipped to my office in the next 48 hours. I will be the first in my company to use it for business, so hopefully it works just like the 4G does (synching with Outlook e-mail, calendar, contacts).
Thanks for the quick replies!
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Just went by my local Sprint store to take a look at the 3D. Good news is that the 3D will still fit in my universal car cradle. I was worried that the charing port would be covered by the left side of the cradle, but the port is high enough up on the side to clear.
I use this universal car cradle, BTW:
http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-SM410-U...OOZO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1312321220&sr=8-1
Though a little weary of the stock battery life, I told my IT guy to get me the 3D. Hopefully it gets drop-shipped to my office in the next 48 hours. I will be the first in my company to use it for business, so hopefully it works just like the 4G does (synching with Outlook e-mail, calendar, contacts).
Thanks for the quick replies!
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Don't worry you will be a happy customer, if you love the 4g then the 3D will blow your mind. Dual core goodness all the way.
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Don't worry you will be a happy customer, if you love the 4g then the 3D will blow your mind. Dual core goodness all the way.
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I hope you're right. I really like my EVO 4G. No major bugs for me with that device running 100% stock from Sprint. A little nervous about the 3D. Hoping I didn't make a bad choice.
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I hope you're right. I really like my EVO 4G. No major bugs for me with that device running 100% stock from Sprint. A little nervous about the 3D. Hoping I didn't make a bad choice.
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You will be good let us know what you think about it after you play with it
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
You mean step down to the Evo 3D? IMO you should get the HTC Vogue...
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Yep, I dropped my EVO 4G taking it out of my pocked in a parking lot today, and the screen is cracked to he!!. Need to decide whether to get another EVO 4G or move to the EVO 3D.
I like the idea of the better quality screen and faster processor in the 3D, but from reading some if the "issues" threads here and elsewhere, not looking for a new device that will randomly reboot, have worse reception, overheat faster (it's flipping hot here in Houston!), etc. The lack of a kickstand and where they place the charging port seems like a huge fail as well.
I don't root or anything like that. This is a work phone and to be honest, I don't have the time to mess with rooting and stuff. I just need it to work right out of the box. I have a 16GB micro SD card that I will use for storing pictures, music, etc. I currently use the Sprint extended battery (2600 mAh) in my EVO 4G and get through a normal day with 35-40% left. Not sure if I will need an extended battery with the 3D?
Anyway, for those of you that came from the EVO 4G, was it worthwhile?
Thanks!
Jason
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I'd say upgrade. I had the Evo 4G since it was released and then got the Evo 3D the day it was released, haven't looked back. I haven't had a single random reboot since I purchased my 3D. I haven't noticed any problems with my reception here in Kansas City, Missouri, at least no different than my Evo 4G.
As for the overheating, I've not had a single problem with this either, and it was 109 here in KC. I think HTC got rid of the kick stand because it was taking up precious battery room. If it's that big of a deal to you you can always go for the seidio active case that has a built in kickstand.
The stock Evo 3D battery seemed to out perform my Evo 4G battery as well, however I'm now using the seidio 4000mHa super extended battery and my phone will last two days with constant use.
I absolutely love the EVO 3D. It fixed many of my little issues I had with my EVO4g. The only thing that doesn't work right for me is the BlueTooth hook up to my car stereo.
EVO 4g auto hooked up everytime i started the car. never failed. (2011 Subaru STi stock radio)
EVO 3D I have to turn off the bluetooth, re-enable and then pair manually. Sometimes it pairs completely.. sometimes it pairs with only the media portion so I only get music and not phone capabilities.
Other than that, Its a great upgrade.
Hi, how many folks out there that use 4G have noticed their EVO 3D getting really hot. Mine seems fine, however my wife's phone always gets really hot. I have held it and its too hot. Just want to know if she has a defective phone or if its another issue. She has had her phone replaced already and she is not in the mood to go and get it replaced yet again. I don't blame her either.
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not sure what the issue could be...but if you really want 4G then you should probably replace it again. but if u don't really use 4G that much, then I don't think there's any point.
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Hi, how many folks out there that use 4G have noticed their EVO 3D getting really hot. Mine seems fine, however my wife's phone always gets really hot. I have held it and its too hot. Just want to know if she has a defective phone or if its another issue. She has had her phone replaced already and she is not in the mood to go and get it replaced yet again. I don't blame her either.
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How hot is it getting? You can use battery monitor widget to check the temp. Mine will heat up a bit if I have 4G on and am using a lot of data, but never gets real hot, about 38-39c.
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I know lots of users are experiencing overheating. I'm just wondering if it's all or just a select few of the phones. My phone has been perfect aside from the overheating. No sounds screen or pink button issues. I'm debating whether to call amazon and order a replacement. I'd hate to get one back that has more problems than the one have.
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its part of having a 4G phone. the radio's to blame. same thing happened with the Thunderbolt, Charge & even heard of people with Bionic's having the same issue.
So getting to 117° in 15 min of play is normal?
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This was on wifi toomy 4g is off
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You can add these cheap HTC batteries to the overheating problems.
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I'm running 103.5 in a strong 4g area.
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The only time i over-heat is when using the MHL adapter. Havn't tried playing 3d intensive games for longer than 10 minutes, so not sure about that (i'll try later tonight, they won't let me play at work).
Might be that the screen is on too long at high brightness rather than just the processor taking in to many inputs? Or it might be the 4g, cause I was streaming movies when watching on the MHL... it'd be nice to know what people are doing that makes there phones overheat so we can analyze more results.
Never had an overheat on my rezound. I run wifi daily all during work. usually only streaming pandora or gmusic over wifi. netflix on some days but never gets hot. mostly on wifi so not sure about 4G.
With the 4g network down in Chicago yesterday I was plugged into a wall outlet and streaming through a radio feed via dolphin and my phone wasn't overheating in 2g. Coincidence? I think not lol. Will be testing my replacement rezound starting today we will see how this one goes.
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Ditto, mine runs on wi-fi at work and at home but has never run hot charging or on 4G when out and about.
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Mine overheats after continuos anything. Always on 4g. It's been to 140.1 before and is reguraly above 120.
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Mine was heating up to just below 120. I contacted our rep who offered to switch it out. I told him I'd be happy to just try a different battery, but he said he'd rather switch out the whole thing. 3 days later I have another new Rezound. So far, no heat issues. (Knocking on wood.)
Is the the battery itself or the phone. I got my replacement phone today but has pink buttons so. I'd rather just swap batteries
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Try the new battery for a couple of days and see. VZW should not get mad if you mail one of the phones back monday.
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My new phone works fine. Yay.
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Try the new battery for a couple of days and see. VZW should not get mad if you mail one of the phones back monday.
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its through amazon wireless and they give me 30 days from the shipping date to return. They also did overnight delivery for the nes one which was awesome.
anyways I just played a game that over heated my phone to 115 then I stop pulled the battery. I'm waiting a half hour or so so my phone cools down then I'll do the same game with the nee battery and we'll see how that goes. If it over heats I'll repeat the process in the new phone. Sure hope its just the battery
Are you in an area that gets a good data signal? When I was in an area where the phone was working hard to keep the 4G signal,it would warm up.
(My Thunderbolt).
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Are you in an area that gets a good data signal? When I was in an area where the phone was working hard to keep the 4G signal,it would warm up.
(My Thunderbolt).
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I have good signal but the 4g is irrelevant to my overheating. I turn it off. Clear all apps. Start the game (little war game or whatever) and it gets over 110 degrees atleast after ten minutes.
original phone overheated both batteries. Testing new phone now
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I have good signal but the 4g is irrelevant to my overheating. I turn it off. Clear all apps. Start the game (little war game or whatever) and it gets over 110 degrees atleast after ten minutes.
original phone overheated both batteries. Testing new phone now
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Good luck.
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I bought a $20 USB powered fan from "Worst Buy" it actually kicks ass
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So I'm looking to buy this phone and heard a lot of good things. I own an evo 3d currently and looking to upgrade. One thing I wondered is when the phone freezes/locks up really bad how would you reboot it? Now I know there is a button combo, power+volume up and down resets it but there have been times where the only way is a battery pull to get the phone to boot up and the button combo wouldn't work. I try a lot of custom kernels and sometimes run into these situations. I would love it if someone could shed some light on this as this is a big factor for me buying the phone, thanks.
If you hold down the power button for about 10 seconds it functions as a battery pull
It works on the EVO LTE because its made too...vol down and power for 20
Seconds is the equivalent of a battery pull on this phone.
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This completely shuts it off correct? Or does it just restart
Total power down. HTC definitely paid attention to user feedback, regarding what could be improved upon with the Evo 4G, as the LTE is a huge step forward, in my opinion. I'm not impressed easily, but the HTC Evo 4G LTE easily impressed me.
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For the record, I've rooted and am running Char ROM, and have not had hit a scenario where I would have typically had to pull the battery.
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Thank you for the info everyone, I really appreciate it