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when i had my diamond sense used to have a side swiping animation which was removed due to speed issues. now the hd2 is here is there a way of getting this back or is it in the code anymore?
If you mean swiping to the side to change tabs instead of using the slider then Yeah its there....... it is on mine anyway....
Theres no animation though, it just switches to the next tab........
same here...
if you mean something different, describe it better pls
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yea you can swipe, but when.sense first came out it used to animate like side swiping in sense for android does now quite hard to explain really..
it would move to the next screen not go to the next.screen
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yea you can swipe, but when.sense first came out it used to animate like side swiping in sense for android does now quite hard to explain really..
it would move to the next screen not go to the next.screen
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personally I can live without that, sense is a memory hog as it is without any extra animation..... I only leave the weather animation on because it looks so pretty lol
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its not that bad, i couldn't live without it. this phone i reckon could cope with it. i think i was removed years ago though. wishful thinking on my part
your right, the hd2 should be able to handle it......
Wow I can't believe that either Android or HTC took such a serious step backwards with this new applications screen. I mean this stinks of way back in my Windows 6.x days. My EVO 4G applications drawer would just scroll and scroll so quickly and smoothly from top to bottom, relative to how fast and hard the finger gesture was. Now here we are again with this lame stepped scrolling app screen environment. You flick down and the screen moves exactly one set of five rows and slams to a stop, like you have reached the end. So you have to flick it again to get another whole five rows. In fact if you move the screen manually and slowly you can even see a thin white break across the screen where the stops are forced to happen. This sucks so much compaired to the beautiful, smooth, fluid animation we had before. Pleeeeease tell me there is a way to change this.
open app tray-hit menu-tap list=problem solved
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Wow I can't believe that either Android or HTC took such a serious step backwards with this new applications screen. I mean this stinks of way back in my Windows 6.x days. My EVO 4G applications drawer would just scroll and scroll so quickly and smoothly from top to bottom, relative to how fast and hard the finger gesture was. Now here we are again with this lame stepped scrolling app screen environment. You flick down and the screen moves exactly one set of five rows and slams to a stop, like you have reached the end. So you have to flick it again to get another whole five rows. In fact if you move the screen manually and slowly you can even see a thin white break across the screen where the stops are forced to happen. This sucks so much compaired to the beautiful, smooth, fluid animation we had before. Pleeeeease tell me there is a way to change this.
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Install Launcher Pro, ADWex, Launcher7, GoLauncher....I'm sure I'm missing dozens of them....Launcher Pro is the smoothest and most AOSP experience, though ADW is free with no nag and OSS, ADWex is the pay version, Launcher 7 is a Wp7 copycat, very smooth...not too feature rich...Go Launcher I've never used, but, seen good things from....
But you lose your sense widgets....
Screw rosie, I'll throw everything away to do away with that hideous beast
I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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I thought this was a question...
I happen to like how it is now but to each his own..List mode is the best your gonna get until we get some cracked boot loaders and roms
Rippley05 said:
I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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My thoughts exactly, lol. I was like, hmm, that was an easy way for them to fix the scrolling lag thru the app drawer, haha. I don't mind it, but look forward to the day I can get a custom rom on this bad boy and run some AOSP.
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open app tray-hit menu-tap list=problem solved
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Yeah I was aware of that option but really don't think that is a good trade off.
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Rippley05 said:
I agree with the OP. Converting it to.list is dooky too. I guess this new app drawer is HTCs was of eliminating the scrolling lag..
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
Of all the things to complain about. I only knew it was a matter of time before people started acting like it was the end of the world because of something as minor as an app drawer. It was the same with the EVO.
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
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bad coding is bad coding. we weren't dropping frames, they just weren't there to begin with.
ADWex and LP are always liquid smooth to me, on my Moment, Evo4G, Nook Color and everyones phone I put it on who asks to 'make it faster'.....in fact, as much as I hate sense I could deal with it or even--gasp--like it (those are some sexy widgets) if that god damned app drawer wasn't so god damn ugly-laggy-slow .... stock launcher on my moment was smoother....and, well...nuff said
The app drawer has been like that sense the thunderbolt released, I guess u never had a sense 2.1 rom
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I guess my lag wasn't that bad, but i would have thought that a dual core proc and 1gig of ram would have been enough to fix that.
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I think they might be fixing it for "less equipped" phones. I can imagine that several "low end" devices will have Sense 3.0 at some point.
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The app drawer has been like that sense the thunderbolt released, I guess u never had a sense 2.1 rom
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Nope I went straight from my EVO 4G to this and my ROM of choice was always the trusty Sprint Lover's rom, which was the original sense.
Launcher Pro Plus (the $3 is worth it) works very smoothly (I can scroll the whole app list in 1 swipe, no lag). I got Fancy Widgets free from the Amazon Apps store awhile back, and it makes up for the lost Sense widgets. I got addicted to having the scrolling lower launcher bar - there's no way I can go back to just 3 buttons that I can't assign
I actually like the vertical paginated style in the Sense 3.0 drawer. It reminds me of the horizontal paginated in ADW, which is what I always used. I wouldn't go so far to say it's a major step backwards, though. It's not really the end of the world.
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Launcher Pro Plus (the $3 is worth it) works very smoothly (I can scroll the whole app list in 1 swipe, no lag). I got Fancy Widgets free from the Amazon Apps store awhile back, and it makes up for the lost Sense widgets. I got addicted to having the scrolling lower launcher bar - there's no way I can go back to just 3 buttons that I can't assign
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Fancy Widgets doesn't look anywhere even close to as nice as the new Sense 3 widgets man.
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Of all the things to complain about. I only knew it was a matter of time before people started acting like it was the end of the world because of something as minor as an app drawer. It was the same with the EVO.
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yup, people complains for everything this days, remember the 30 days return policy mi gente!!
I remember seeing a review that you're able to pinch the app draw to see all the apps at the same time, then select the screen with the app you want. Just like the home screen on the regular Evo.
Is this how it works? Cause that would eliminate a reason to fast scroll for me & also explain why there's a line every 5 rows
lol @ some of you guys getting upset at people who don't like the app drawer.... calm down little fellas... we aren't insulting you.
I love the phone so far, hate the app drawer... using anything other than sense 3.0 on this phone right now would be silly IMO.
Started along my Android journey 2 weeks ago by selling my.iPhone 4 and buying a Motorola milestone 2 phone and now a HTC flyer 3g.
sorta got used to the hardware buttons on the flyer. will HC remove their functionality completely or is it likely to come back at some stage? does anyone know why they have been removed?
thanks
Hardware buttons are not able to be used in hc by Google's design. Will have to stick with GB or wait till ICS if you want them back.
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thanks for the answer. what noticeable benefits with HC? I I might stay with GB as I really like the hardware buttons
Just flashed hc and really like so far, the os is much better for tablets, can also use the pen everywhere!
There is a bottom bar instead of hw buttons, and this is fine in portrait mode (which is best for flyer generally), but is more noticable in landscape. I haven't watched any vids yet to know how it affects those
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Not likely they will be back in HC since they are redundant with the on screen system bar which cannot be removed. Use it for a few days and you will forget the hard buttons were even there.
Hardware buttons are removed from Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) as well so I doubt they will be back. Not sure if it is possible for a Developer to make them work on a custom ROM or not. I have been trying ICS on my Evo and my buttons work.
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Hardware buttons are removed from Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) as well so I doubt they will be back. Not sure if it is possible for a Developer to make them work on a custom ROM or not. I have been trying ICS on my Evo and my buttons work.
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I'm pretty sure that if the hardware buttons are on the device they will be used in ICS instead of the on screen buttons. Why waste screen space with the on screen buttons when you have them built in?
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I'm pretty sure that if the hardware buttons are on the device they will be used in ICS instead of the on screen buttons. Why waste screen space with the on screen buttons when you have them built in?
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I guess what I meant to say was they are starting to move away from hardware buttons altogether.
I think ICS has built-in calls to hide the soft-buttons, HC does not. You won;t be seeing a full working ICS for the Flyer anytime soon though. Not until HTC releases a working ROM or a ICS on a HTC device that is close enough to port.
If HC on the Flyer does not use the capacitive buttons, it is not worth it for me losing about 10% of the display in landscape mode. I will not update and thanks for letting me know! Flyer works great already and a 7" tablet IMO is small enough without losing space.
As far as ICS, it has already been pointed out that OEMs can choose to use the capacitive buttons, if a device has them. Imagine the uproar from people with small phone displays if losing space to a nav bar.
Nexus does this, but has a bigger display, so the actual usable display size minus the fixed nav bar is a tad under 4.3". The buttons are only hidden in ICS during some types of video playback, but apparently nothing else. The bar is always there- just like HC.
Added: Since capacitive buttons can be used, I would expect them to be around longer, since cheaper to put capacitive buttons, rather than bigger displays: Also better on battery life.
You do not have to lose the space and get much more back in return
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I'm trying to understand the negative view on the Honeycomb bar. It replaces the system bar, which we have at the top of the screen now, so we don't loose much, right? Perhaps a few more pixels, but...that's it, right?
I do like the hardware buttons, but its not like we're going from no status bar to a huge one; we're going from a smaller one to a slightly larger one with more functionality.
Or am I missing something?
Your not missing anything people are making something out of nearly nothing and are ignoring the drastic user interface improvements. The only time I use honeybar to remove honeycomb bar is if watching videos. Now if I wanted to use my flyer as a phone. That is a different story
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Not seeing how it is something out of nothing, since you lose more than 10% of display space in landscape mode- it is taken by the nav bar. The same one on my Thrive, except it is a 10" display, so not as bad.
Before updating, check out the Acer 7" and see if you like it. I found it cramp and appreciate the extra display space on the Flyer with GB. ICS can use the capacitive buttons and not use the nav bar, but HC can not.
All up to choice. I choose to not have a smaller display on an already small 7" tablet, since the Flyer already has nav buttons. Eveybody else can knock themselves out and enjoy HC Added: As far as rooting to get a work around, my Flyer works great as is, so not risking the root process- Flyer rocks.
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I'm trying to understand the negative view on the Honeycomb bar. It replaces the system bar, which we have at the top of the screen now, so we don't loose much, right? Perhaps a few more pixels, but...that's it, right?
I do like the hardware buttons, but its not like we're going from no status bar to a huge one; we're going from a smaller one to a slightly larger one with more functionality.
Or am I missing something?
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I wish that were the case than you are right- no problem. Thing is the bars in GB go away when playing a game, surfing (if you choose to) or watching a movie. The bar does NOT go away with HC. The buttons darken, but the big bar is still there and over 10% of the display is gone for good.
Incorrect if you use honeybar
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NookFan said:
I'm trying to understand the negative view on the Honeycomb bar. It replaces the system bar, which we have at the top of the screen now, so we don't loose much, right? Perhaps a few more pixels, but...that's it, right?
I do like the hardware buttons, but its not like we're going from no status bar to a huge one; we're going from a smaller one to a slightly larger one with more functionality.
Or am I missing something?
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This is the reason..
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Incorrect if you use honeybar
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But need to be rooted to use it. If simple like the Incredible, Droid 3 and Razr, no problem, but the process seems too risky when the Flyer already performs great for me. No need to rock the boat and no need to lose display space to a nav bar.
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I guess when full-screen is no longer really full-screen, I get it. Thanks for the info. I am looking forward to Honeycomb, though...
I might as well whine in here too....
I really really really want at least one hardware (physical) button on the front of device. I don't get it why all manufacturers decided that there is no real need for it. Take the damn ipad for example: that thing is easy to turn on with the front button. I used to have old android phone with Green and Red phone buttons and it was so comfortable to turn on the phone using them. When I upgraded to Galaxy S, man I have missed those... got used to power button with time because device is small. With flyer and other tablets it is a bit different story. It lays on my desk and I have to use two hands to turn on the damn thing. One hand to hold the device, another to push the power button. It is a small thing, but it is quite uncomfortable.
Back to the topic... For those in doubt.. HC upgrade is worth it. You're not loosing much, but overall HC is better IMHO.
Does anybody know a good task manager/killer for HC that maybe integrates with multitasking preview (I know that I'm not supposed to use it... blah...blah...blah...)?
You can use any of the 10 or so task killers on the market, they will all work just as poorly as any for HC. As you have pointed out, not needed and will adversely affect your performance / battery if you try to automate it.
If your device is on the desk, plugged in, just set the display to never time out and you never need to turn it back on....
I was looking at my friends GS3(yeah, the overated phone), and I noticed that the status bar looks better. Do you like the HTC status bar, or would you like it looking like the S3's? I like the S3's status bar, but i'm not gonna switch to it since I like HTC better. I also noticed how neon the Amoled screen is. I like the one on the DNA too. I also think HTC can make the app launcher background a little more transparent and add "holo theme" features to Sense.
I do like the quick settings on the GS3 pull down bar. Maybe it just "seems" like a time-saver but I still like it. Other than that I like the DNA's features better.
The reason i got the dna was cause i hate SAMOLED screens with a passion. Take that for what its worth
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Yeah coming from a samsung phone I hated it. I hate touch wiz and I hate SAMOLED the brightness all the way down was always still way too bright and my battery would never last as long as I wanted it to. This is my first HTC phone and I am never going back to samsung.
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Yeah coming from a samsung phone I hated it. I hate touch wiz and I hate SAMOLED the brightness all the way down was always still way too bright and my battery would never last as long as I wanted it to. This is my first HTC phone and I am never going back to samsung.
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Which Samsung did you have ? Cool to hear from a Samsung user or ex user.
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I had a samsung continuum. Verizon planed on the device being big because it's the only phone that has 2 screens. At the time when I bought it android 2.2 had just been released and the rep told me that the phone would be receiving the update soon. This was at the end of 2010 in February 2012 we finally received the froyo update. The device is still on froyo and only has a leak for gb. The battery life was so bad that I had to get an extended battery it would die when I didn't even use it that much. It was so slow performing a simple task like texting took forever. I had to do a battery pull multiple times a day. The phone angered me so much it was a pain to use everyday. However because it was so bad this led me to the introduction of rooting and flashing. Although there was very little development for the phone I flashed a bunch of stuff and was able to get the phone to a solid state where I was able to use it and enjoy it. It's a shame that the phone never got the attention it deserved because it did have the potential to be great. But samsung and verizon could not come to terms and release updates and fix bugs in a timely manner. It was more of a love hate relationship. Only really good thing about the phone was hard bricking it was nearly impossible. Like I said some days I loved it and some days I hated it and wanted to chuck it at a wall. But after having a bad experience like that I'm never going back to them. All my android devices have now been Motorola, from Google, and HTC. I have to say after making a leap that was so drastic to this phone it was quite enjoyable. On the continuum I had a crappy processor and about 300mb of ram so everything was slow. The continuum forms aren't getting very much activity now a days but the people there are really helpful so the community was small and very friendly. Very few people still run the phone as their daily driver. I also really like HTC sense compared to touch wiz. But after an experience like that I'm done with samsung their customer support also really sucks.
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Sense's lack of quick settings in the notification drop down is annoying (at least Sense 4+ has a link to the settings menu now) but with any good ROM it'll add it back (like ViperDNA for example). The Super LCD 3 screen on the DNA is much much better than the OLED screen on the S3. Not only is the resolution higher, but I think it recreates color better. Also, while some Droid DNAs have had reports of small blue splotches on the screen (my original had one) overall the screens seem to be flawless. The S3s had widespread reports of blotches of light or dark which is systemic to OLED screens.
Nobody likes to wait. For anything, really. But especially us phone geeks when it comes to the newest software. It's like pure torture, and it leads to crack flashing and endless tweaking of our devices. Oh the hours lost trying to find the perfect combination of the latest cutting edge Android version and the function we want. There's always an annoying bug like severe battery drain, GPS failure, or poorly calibrated colors & audio. And while we again WAIT for another update to fix it, we flash away. Complaining the entire time about how we have to wait for another update.
But I've come to realize something. I already love my phone. Stock, right out of the box. It works perfectly. Everything I need, with no time wasted on trying to make it "better". Why should I care what number is after the decimal in my Android version? I don't. Because I'd rather wait until they make sure my phone experience won't diminish, that it will only improve when I update it. Maybe it's HTC that made me feel like this with the One. Maybe all the top tier phones are so good now, it doesn't matter if it's a Nexus. Or vanilla Android at all for that matter.
All I know is right now, my phone is perfect. And I'd hate to ruin that just because of a little decimal change in my software bragging rights. I'll wait. Take your time HTC, take your time T-Mobile.
Not to troll here or flame.... But really?
I stopped reading after the title...
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ingenious247 said:
Nobody likes to wait. For anything, really. But especially us phone geeks when it comes to the newest software. It's like pure torture, and it leads to crack flashing and endless tweaking of our devices. Oh the hours lost trying to find the perfect combination of the latest cutting edge Android version and the function we want. There's always an annoying bug like severe battery drain, GPS failure, or poorly calibrated colors & audio. And while we again WAIT for another update to fix it, we flash away. Complaining the entire time about how we have to wait for another update.
But I've come to realize something. I already love my phone. Stock, right out of the box. It works perfectly. Everything I need, with no time wasted on trying to make it "better". Why should I care what number is after the decimal in my Android version? I don't. Because I'd rather wait until they make sure my phone experience won't diminish, that it will only improve when I update it. Maybe it's HTC that made me feel like this with the One. Maybe all the top tier phones are so good now, it doesn't matter if it's a Nexus. Or vanilla Android at all for that matter.
All I know is right now, my phone is perfect. And I'd hate to ruin that just because of a little decimal change in my software bragging rights. I'll wait. Take your time HTC, take your time T-Mobile.
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The new ltd update brought me back to stock for improved reception. The only thing I really miss is the hold home as menu button. I understand your point, although I do wish they would stop being lazy and just bring it over.
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Not to troll here or flame.... But really?
I stopped reading after the title...
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Sorry thought a fresh perspective might be nice. Instead of another thread complaining about not having 4.2.2
Thanks for contributing
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See I just want my sense to have my nice 2 finger pull-down menu from 4.2.2 and WiFi calling. Be nice if they would just add in a bigger app drawer and home screen.
I don't know why you wouldn't like the new updates/ including improved battery life and usability... Also, Wifi calling is only one that I miss the most... other than that, everything else is far superior in terms of speed, battery, and well... everything else.
I agree with what your saying in regards to Roms. I quit using them a while ago and have had a much better and more consistent experience with my stock phone.
As far as the carriers go.....that's all fine and good except that Google releases updates that work immediately so it's clear that you can get updates to work from day 1. That makes me questions the motives behind carriers's relentless "testing" which, as we all know, is their way of getting people to buy new phones.
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I agree with what your saying in regards to Roms. I quit using them a while ago and have had a much better and more consistent experience with my stock phone.
As far as the carriers go.....that's all fine and good except that Google releases updates that work immediately so it's clear that you can get updates to work from day 1. That makes me questions the motives behind carriers's relentless "testing" which, as we all know, is their way of getting people to buy new phones.
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Google also doesn't have to deal with tens of thousands of paying customers threatening to end their business relationship when there's bugs/issues like the carriers do. They have to be more careful releasing updates
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i just want 4.2.2. i came from a nexus 4, so i'm so use to pulling down the notification bar with two fingers and accessing the little toggles right then and there. or pulling down my notification bar with one finger and being able to expand some notifications like emails so i can see more then one at a time.
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Nobody likes to wait. For anything, really. But especially us phone geeks when it comes to the newest software. It's like pure torture, and it leads to crack flashing and endless tweaking of our devices. Oh the hours lost trying to find the perfect combination of the latest cutting edge Android version and the function we want. There's always an annoying bug like severe battery drain, GPS failure, or poorly calibrated colors & audio. And while we again WAIT for another update to fix it, we flash away. Complaining the entire time about how we have to wait for another update.
But I've come to realize something. I already love my phone. Stock, right out of the box. It works perfectly. Everything I need, with no time wasted on trying to make it "better". Why should I care what number is after the decimal in my Android version? I don't. Because I'd rather wait until they make sure my phone experience won't diminish, that it will only improve when I update it. Maybe it's HTC that made me feel like this with the One. Maybe all the top tier phones are so good now, it doesn't matter if it's a Nexus. Or vanilla Android at all for that matter.
All I know is right now, my phone is perfect. And I'd hate to ruin that just because of a little decimal change in my software bragging rights. I'll wait. Take your time HTC, take your time T-Mobile.
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Really dude?
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Just remove the stupid 3 dot menu and I'll stop complaining. Really though I would prefer a first party eqs than the one I'm using now. And no I don't want to mess with rooting or roms as work email doesn't work with root.
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i just want 4.2.2. i came from a nexus 4, so i'm so use to pulling down the notification bar with two fingers and accessing the little toggles right then and there. or pulling down my notification bar with one finger and being able to expand some notifications like emails so i can see more then one at a time.
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I had the Nexus as well. Those are small trade offs for the features of this phone. Besides it's coming lol
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I feel like I can wait but why did htc chose no notification toggles is weird because all the other top phones got that but it's ok they are ugly phones lol
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I had the Nexus as well. Those are small trade offs for the features of this phone. Besides it's coming lol
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yeah that is true. but i can wait. im in no hurry. this phone is fantastic the way it is now. :highfive:
Have to say I agree with op. I have come hmback to complete stock 2 times. Infused a few roms and there was just something about them that wasn't working just right. Tried 4.3 and it was blah . Missed out on the stock features I'm staying stock also.
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I returned to stock myself but I wouldn't say I actually enjoy the slow updates. I just don't enjoy custom ROM's as much as I used to. I prefer the genuine stability of what comes from the factory. Although, there are some features (a few actually) that I can't wait to receive with the 4.2 update.
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Funny XDA & all these One owners staying stock. Me too! This is my first truly problem free smartphone as in nothing, none, not one issue(other then the black menu bar) but I know it days are limited so I can wait. But they finally got a phone so right that even XDA members are going stock that's an accomplishment
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