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Hey there,
Just noticed there isn't the whole 1Gb of ram available for Android to use......
Does this alter performance???
Is it allocated for graphics or the webtop??
Is there any way to remove the allocations for the addresses so they are all for Android OS???
Currently there's only 8xx.x MB available...
Cheers guys....... (just weird future-proofing questions)
About 300mb of ram is reserved by the OS.
Its divided up. Half or a little over half is dedicated to the OS. and the remaining of it is for webtop
They state 1gig because there literally is 1gig of pc memory (which they call it)
So out of the 1GB, about 300mb ish is used by android, leaving 700mb ish available to the phone/user? Or is say 500mb of the remaining 700 reserved for the laptop dock, so the phone can only access/use to run apps etc on 200mb? Sorry for sounding a bit thick, but i'm confused.
Thanks
Ian
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.electricsheep.asi
it will show what is and what isnt available
Um, i don't actually have the phone yet? just wanted to make sure that if i buy an atrix, it has the full 1gb of ram available for use (Minus operating system needs, so about 700 - 800mb ish?). I don't intend to purchase a laptop dock, or at least not straight away, so i'm hoping the phone can use the full 700+mb remainder for multi tasking, gaming, etc etc
Thanks
Ian
Beaker491 said:
Um, i don't actually have the phone yet? just wanted to make sure that if i buy an atrix, it has the full 1gb of ram available for use (Minus operating system needs, so about 700 - 800mb ish?). I don't intend to purchase a laptop dock, or at least not straight away, so i'm hoping the phone can use the full 700+mb remainder for multi tasking, gaming, etc etc
Thanks
Ian
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you dont honestly need anymore than 700 there will be a mod soon that will allow you to have all of the 1gig
Beaker491 said:
Um, i don't actually have the phone yet? just wanted to make sure that if i buy an atrix, it has the full 1gb of ram available for use (Minus operating system needs, so about 700 - 800mb ish?). I don't intend to purchase a laptop dock, or at least not straight away, so i'm hoping the phone can use the full 700+mb remainder for multi tasking, gaming, etc etc
Thanks
Ian
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System uses 250-350mb. You usually get 550-650Mb free in a fresh restart with no widgets on the launcher. My phone's free memory is usually 350-450Mb and i use a lot of apps, widgets and running services. Phone is always snappy.
There's misleading information stating that half of the phone's memory is reserved for webtop/laptop dock. That's not true
Beaker491 said:
Um, i don't actually have the phone yet? just wanted to make sure that if i buy an atrix, it has the full 1gb of ram available for use (Minus operating system needs, so about 700 - 800mb ish?). I don't intend to purchase a laptop dock, or at least not straight away, so i'm hoping the phone can use the full 700+mb remainder for multi tasking, gaming, etc etc
Thanks
Ian
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Don't get the phone, Wait it out for something better
firefox3 said:
Don't get the phone, Wait it out for something better
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If I did that, i'd never buy a new phone, i'd always be waiting for something better..... choices choices
Ian
Beaker491 said:
If I did that, i'd never buy a new phone, i'd always be waiting for something better..... choices choices
Ian
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No doubt. The phone has plenty of memory and plenty of potential.
Buy the sgs2. They already cranked it up to 1.5ghz and its stable. I regret buying this phone. Its gonna be locked down forever.
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The selling point for me, with the Atrix, is the docking capabilities. It seems that Motorola is the only Android manufacturer that understands how important this is. Apple sells a lot of devices because of docking and accessory capability.
This is where Samsung fails for the most part.
I understand that this may not be important to some people, but it is to me. The car dock creates a simple dock solution to play music and use maps from the phone. This is preferable to bluetooth streaming by far. The dock provides audio out via USB so you do not have to plug anything into the phone after docking. The same is true for the HD dock and the Laptop dock. Also, the laptop dock allows you to close the lid and still play music from it's speakers.
The bottom line here is simple. There are pros and cons to every device. There is no single device that can be considered the best for everyone.
Having said that, I have never had a Samsung mobile device that wasn't cheap feeling. The SAMOLED screens are beautiful but they are surrounded by cheap feeling materials. It all comes down to personal opinion.
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you dont honestly need anymore than 700 there will be a mod soon that will allow you to have all of the 1gig
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I know i won't need more than 700, but what i didn't know was if the phone could access the whole of the 700 if it had too (say playing a resource heavy game while having something running in the background - no laptop dock involved), or whether or not the 700 was divided into separate 2 sections - one for phone usage, and one for laptop dock usage? There seems to be conflicting answers when searching.
Thanks
Ian
Beaker491 said:
I know i won't need more than 700, but what i didn't know was if the phone could access the whole of the 700 if it had too (say playing a resource heavy game while having something running in the background - no laptop dock involved), or whether or not the 700 was divided into separate 2 sections - one for phone usage, and one for laptop dock usage? There seems to be conflicting answers when searching.
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Ian
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There's no such "partition" of RAM. The webtop environment uses the RAM available when needed by does NOT reserve it! Whenever you are not using Webtop, phone will use the amount of RAM available, either 700, 600 or 500Mb or so.
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If I did that, i'd never buy a new phone, i'd always be waiting for something better..... choices choices
Ian
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Haha agreed, there is always gonna be a better one so you gotta settle down eventually.
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tdo700 said:
Buy the sgs2. They already cranked it up to 1.5ghz and its stable. I regret buying this phone. Its gonna be locked down forever.
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It may be up to 1.5ghz already, but for all its speed, right now it's crap for playing games on (or at least the exynos version is), which is something i shall be doing alot of with my new device. But everybody has different needs from their phone. My No1 need is gaming development and support. Any phone thats got an Nvidia chip in it has a gaming advantage.
Ian
Is the ASUS Trandformer Prime the only quad core tablet currently available at present or are there others that i don't know about?
I have to say im very disappointed with the Prime, initially i was very excited with the impending release of this tablet the specs and design looked to be absolutely amazing and i was definitely going to get one but having been a keen observer of the ASUS Transformer Prime forums on XDA it's makes for grim reading, most of what im reading are people having multiple problems from GPS to WiFi to random reboots to the tablet freezing,etc,etc,etc i did say a few weeks ago i would give it more time to see if many of these issues were to be resolved but it doesn't appear this has happened so i couldn't justify paying big money for what is essentially a product that will not work the way it should and frankly i think ASUS rushed the release of this due to overwhelming demand whereas i think they should have spend much more time testing and testing to ensure absolutely everything worked 100% the way it should so im very disappointed but i still want a tablet,no real rush am willing to wait maybe 2/3 months but what are my options, i would be looking for something similar specs to the Prime and obviously it would have to be an Android tablet running ICS, i cant see much out there right now to rival the specs of the Prime, does anyone have any recommendations>
Cheers
Maybe I should have asked elsewhere doesn't appear to have provoked much of a response!!
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jonny68 said:
Is the ASUS Trandformer Prime the only quad core tablet currently available at present or are there others that i don't know about?
I have to say im very disappointed with the Prime, initially i was very excited with the impending release of this tablet the specs and design looked to be absolutely amazing and i was definitely going to get one but having been a keen observer of the ASUS Transformer Prime forums on XDA it's makes for grim reading, most of what im reading are people having multiple problems from GPS to WiFi to random reboots to the tablet freezing,etc,etc,etc i did say a few weeks ago i would give it more time to see if many of these issues were to be resolved but it doesn't appear this has happened so i couldn't justify paying big money for what is essentially a product that will not work the way it should and frankly i think ASUS rushed the release of this due to overwhelming demand whereas i think they should have spend much more time testing and testing to ensure absolutely everything worked 100% the way it should so im very disappointed but i still want a tablet,no real rush am willing to wait maybe 2/3 months but what are my options, i would be looking for something similar specs to the Prime and obviously it would have to be an Android tablet running ICS, i cant see much out there right now to rival the specs of the Prime, does anyone have any recommendations>
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Yep.
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eh??????
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eh??????
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Answer to your first question
Is the ASUS Trandformer Prime the only quad core tablet currently available at present
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well i dissagree i love my prime and wouldnt trade it for nothing. I have no issues with wifi and the gps is something i dont use on this. I have a phone and navi for that.
its a great tablet and makes any other i have seen slow as a dead turtle.
Plus it is the first android device I have own (5 total) that has gotten updates frequently and with a purpose. I am running ICS natively and the experience is fantabulus!
Anyways, i am sure there will be more and much better coming but for now, its the best on the market!
And its more than a quad core, its a quadcore with a 5th core for all the right reasons. My battery last very long and with this dock, the typing and usage is great. I have the 32gb with a 32gb msd plus i carry a 320 gb hard drive for movies which is accessible from the usb slot!
Anyways good luck buddy
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Other tablets will come out soon
jetbruceli said:
well i dissagree i love my prime and wouldnt trade it for nothing. I have no issues with wifi and the gps is something i dont use on this. I have a phone and navi for that.
its a great tablet and makes any other i have seen slow as a dead turtle.
Plus it is the first android device I have own (5 total) that has gotten updates frequently and with a purpose. I am running ICS natively and the experience is fantabulus!
Anyways, i am sure there will be more and much better coming but for now, its the best on the market!
And its more than a quad core, its a quadcore with a 5th core for all the right reasons. My battery last very long and with this dock, the typing and usage is great. I have the 32gb with a 32gb msd plus i carry a 320 gb hard drive for movies which is accessible from the usb slot!
Anyways good luck buddy
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I'm pleased to hear that but reading the Prime forums makes for grim reading, the sheer amount of people having multiple issues is quite staggering and in all honesty ASUS have a lot to answer for, they appeared to rush the release of this before properly testing it (otherwise people wouldn't be having all these issues)
I suppose ill just have to wait until a similar spec tablet comes out but im going to be very wary of just jumping on and buying straight away, im lucky i didn't do that with the Prime or chances are id have sent it back for a refund, im gonna bide my time and read,read,read and make sure before i shell out big bucks that it actually works 100%
i agree, i'm still worried about picking up a Transformer Prime
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/asus-rebrands-its-tablets-transformer-pads-announces-the-infi/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/asus-outs-lower-end-transformer-pad-300-tablet-with-16gb-of-stor/
There you go So we'll be having a luxury model, thats more expensive and without tegra3 but 1080p display. And then a low cost one, without IPS+, only 16gb und ugly colored (imho) plastic backs.
Asus also gives slightly less battery life (10h against 12h of the prime) on both "new" tablets. Of course they will be good devices, but with both of them i think "ah its just slightly off from what i'm looking for".
I think the Prime is still the sweet spot, and i'm glad i didnt wait
Does the LTE vertion include WiFi?
Now I'm fully convinced to get my Prime, as soon as Amazon Italy lists it as available again.
There is a Tegra 3 one for the WiFi only version model, that's listed in the article you linked.
I have a feeling the prime will slowly disappear when the 300 is released. The two cannot really exist very well together on store shelves i don't think. Who knows when the 300 will be available though. We will have had our primes for months already.
i just can't see them selling both. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see the prime readily available in stores. It doesn't even fit with their new naming. It would confuse people. It sort of belongs as a 500 series with the premium materials and better screen than the 300.
Asus Press Releases
Asus press releases on this:
http://press.asus.com/asus-showcase...rmer-pad-range-at-mobile-world-congress-2012/
http://press.asus.com/asus-padfone-...ineup-unveiled-at-mobile-world-congress-2012/
I just hope sprint gets that Padphone and it will be all mine 1 device to do it all
Now that's a design feat right there!
Not a docking phone into a laptop but a docking phone into a tablet then into a keyboard
Bring that into an apple store and everyone would be like what! I need that! I can replace my iPhone iPad and macbook air! For what less then 1000 you got me sold!
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i think every Prime owner should demand their backplates to be replaced with those from Pad Infinity design with plastic RF window.
Snapdragon S4 VS Tegra 3
This is all pretty crazy now haha. There was only 1 original Transformer (TF101) and now there's exactly 7,451 second generation models.
Just a question though, i've seen benchmarks and it seems that the S4 in the LTE prime is better than Tegra 3, does anyone think the extra cores in Tegra 3 could make up for lack of speed in some applications?
No way the dual core a15 snapdragon will smoke the tegra 3 in not only overclocking but all around performance.
Now what we should be looking forward to is the snapdragon s4 pro the one with the adreno 320 gpu that will be a real deal breaker!
Nvidia just wanted to be first to market so they took the tegra 2 and shrunk it down threw in an extra core for battery and got almost all the attention for being first!
Optimization> # of cores
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actually as a consumer i dont care at all about cores or potential speed in benchmark xy
I care about battery life and most importantly software. I'm sure all the regular games will run smooth on all the new CPUs thats not an issue. Also UI will be completely smooth thats already possible with a dualcore (galaxy s2).
So what does tegra3 offer? Intelligent design with ninja core for battery life and dedicated games that look better than anything else. That makes it better than any other chip IMHO.
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ninja core
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This.
The battery life is SO much better because of this.
..vs K3V2
clouds5 said:
actually as a consumer i dont care at all about cores or potential speed in benchmark xy
I care about battery life and most importantly software. I'm sure all the regular games will run smooth on all the new CPUs thats not an issue. Also UI will be completely smooth thats already possible with a dualcore (galaxy s2).
So what does tegra3 offer? Intelligent design with ninja core for battery life and dedicated games that look better than anything else. That makes it better than any other chip IMHO.
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Haha I guess your right, as long as it works and works WELL, that's more than enough.
Plus if we all cared about specs we'd all be running to the huawei k3v2 chip
"49 percent faster in purely CPU-powered tasks and uses 30 percent less power than its competitors"
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/huawei-adds-home-grown-k3v2-quad-core-mobile-cpu-to-its-arsenal/
THIS MOBILE TECH SPACE IS JUST GETTING STUPID NOW!
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THIS MOBILE TECH SPACE IS JUST GETTING STUPID NOW!
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Most definately Its kinda funny i think... This is completely off topic, but i really wonder what phone manufacturers think when they decide on specs for their new phones.
For example HTC, new line of phones. I like 4.3" phones so the One S is for me. Right now i have a DesireHD. If i upgrade i get a new CPU, yay. But only 16gb memory and only 1500mAh battery (the same as my DHD...).
That means i get a potentionally faster chip (yay for psx/n64 emulation, only place where my dhd is at its limits), but it wont even be able to hold my Music library. Guess i should take my ancient ipod with me again... I liked HTC so far but this is just fail.
now back to topic I hope as many phones as possible will use Tegra3. That means more software dedicated to that chip. And more software on our Prime.
Ooh, I've seen this before. HTC did that. They released so many models that it was hard to keep track of. And this led them to a really sad situation where they are now forced to step back.
ASUS is making a mistake by releasing new models this frequently. It upsets buyers who have invested in a 'new tablet' that is outdated by the same company only few months later and leaves an impression of ASUS basically doing HTC, just improving hardware a little and causing absolutely horrible fragmentation. TF201 will likely not even get Android 5.0 officially.
I liked Engadget poking ASUS as well: "No word yet on pricing or availability. In any case, though, we wouldn't be surprised if ASUS gave birth to another tablet between now and then."
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Most definately Its kinda funny i think... This is completely off topic, but i really wonder what phone manufacturers think when they decide on specs for their new phones.
For example HTC, new line of phones. I like 4.3" phones so the One S is for me. Right now i have a DesireHD. If i upgrade i get a new CPU, yay. But only 16gb memory and only 1500mAh battery (the same as my DHD...). .
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Seconded. Was looking forward to the new HTC models, my Desire has been fantastic and I was not considering any other manufacturer, but then they go and announce the One X and S and it turns out they don't have any memory card slots. What the ****? 32GB on the One X I might be able to live with, but it's too big, and the One S does not have anywhere near enough storage.
Will wait and see on the Asus Padphone now. You might want to check that out - I couldn't give a crap about using it as a tablet but it's got a 4.3 inch display same as the One S and between 16-64GB of internal storage as well as a memory card slot.
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I have a feeling the prime will slowly disappear when the 300 is released. The two cannot really exist very well together on store shelves i don't think. Who knows when the 300 will be available though. We will have had our primes for months already.
i just can't see them selling both. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see the prime readily available in stores. It doesn't even fit with their new naming. It would confuse people. It sort of belongs as a 500 series with the premium materials and better screen than the 300.
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I think you are wrong. If anything, the original Transformer will be phased out when the TP300 is released, since the 300 will replace the OG Transformer as the budget model tablet. Also Asus has stated that they see a long product life span ahead for the current model Transformer Prime, and I believe them.
So you guys ok with a cheaper tablet with better wifi, gps etc? With Sd card slot, the 16 GB storage is not going to be a problem. Also i highly doubt if we will see Padfone in US. Its head ache to deal with carriers here and Asus may well not do it.
So the new Transformer Pad Infinity is basically the current Transformer Prime but with the following changes:
- Same metallic spun finish but with a plastic strip at the top to fix the GPS/BT/WiFi issues the Prime had.
- Same Tegra 3 CPU as the Prime (WiFi model only) but now clocked at 1.6Ghz.
- Improved display. Now 1920x1800.
- Improved front facing camera. Now 2MP and capable of HD video calls.
- 1hr less battery time compared to Prime. Due to increased resolution and clock speed.
- Available in 16GB, 32GB and 64GB configurations and same colours as the Prime.
- Same ports and keyboard dock as the Prime.
I think I might have to wait for this now. Hopefully it fixes all the issues the Prime has.
I personally would gladly trade 16 gigs internal storage for functional wifi/bt. I'll be waiting to see what the rest of the week brings for MWC, but i'm 100% sure now that I wont be buying anything until about a month out to let everyone figure out whats wrong with all these tabs.
It is difficult for Me to believe that a phone is outranking my beautiful TF201, according to anatutu.
Im a tad disappointed.
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They are different devices doing different things. Phones typically have a lot more going on with their internal processes than tablets, so I don't think that the SIII is going to be significantly faster in real-world use.
With that said, the TP has been out for about seven months now, and the SIII has only been out for a couple of weeks. The logical progression of things like this is that new top-end devices will always be faster than old top-end devices. The TP hasn't stopped being an excellent device that shines in its own right, but it will be considered an antique in a couple of years.
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Never followed up to say thanks for your opinion. I just wish Asus would put the effort into their hardware as apple does.
Anyway, I love my Prime but rarely use it anymore, now that I have my Galaxy s2, and an i3 Dell laptop to tether to my phone.
Besides my white s2 looks majestic compared to.....whatever they want to call that s3 design
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cragains said:
It is difficult for Me to believe that a phone is outranking my beautiful TF201, according to anatutu.
Im a tad disappointed.
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New devices are faster than older devices. This is nothing new.
Also, practically no apps really take full advantage of all of the processing power that the Prime has to offer. It isn't as if app hardware requirements are about to jump up to the point where they won't run on your Prime any longer so specs aren't really all that important anyway.
IMO the spec-race with regards to Android devices really needs to slow down. I am all for more powerful devices but since the software isn't exactly racing to keep up increasing the specs past a certain point just make hardware more expensive.
Companies would be better off focusing that money on stuff like better cameras, better screens, improved battery life, better build materials & processes and improving software development in order to really iron out all of their new software features and ensure a better over-all user experience.
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New devices are faster than older devices. This is nothing new.
Also, practically no apps really take full advantage of all of the processing power that the Prime has to offer. It isn't as if app hardware requirements are about to jump up to the point where they won't run on your Prime any longer so specs aren't really all that important anyway.
IMO the spec-race with regards to Android devices really needs to slow down. I am all for more powerful devices but since the software isn't exactly racing to keep up increasing the specs past a certain point just make hardware more expensive.
Companies would be better off focusing that money on stuff like better cameras, better screens, improved battery life, better build materials & processes and improving software development in order to really iron out all of their new software features and ensure a better over-all user experience.
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Word!
Also minor changes are made to the interface of Android. Companies should focus on making their devices more unique than powerful. I used to make fun of iphone owners by saying that the interface (which seems to be designed by a 5-year-old) has not changed since the first iphone. But now I guess the same can be said about android phones. If google is not willing to make bold changes, mobile makers should take the first steps and do it.
You are just bragging about "apps doesn't support quad core", "we cant see tegra power". Bull****. Tegra is full of crap. Android is full of crap really. U buy a 4 core tablet, no app supporting this amount of cores (and let's ****in face it - this tablet performs like **** with I/O problems). I mean wtf? Going with iPad next time!
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You are just bragging about "apps doesn't support quad core", "we cant see tegra power". Bull****. Tegra is full of crap. Android is full of crap really. U buy a 4 core tablet, no app supporting this amount of cores (and let's ****in face it - this tablet performs like **** with I/O problems). I mean wtf? Going with iPad next time!
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So... can I say that iOS is crap too because of fake multitasking, lack of homescreen, ripping off the notification centre, lack of customisability and only dual-core CPU? Similarly, can I also say the iPad is crap because it's overpriced, evolutionary rather than revolutionary jump from iPad 2 to iPad 3, only a 5MP camera, heavier than the Prime, thicker than the Prime, no 600nit display, no official keyboard dock, no storage expansion options and overpriced accessories?
Really? We have to revert back to another ipad vs. Transfner Prime thread? I thought these silly arguments were over with.
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I was going to write a long post about how the prime is over a doubling period old and its still one of the top contenders but i realized its useless.
Why complain that a device thats over 6 months old isnt the best on the market? Especially when it was overrated and still has lots of problems
Also consider samsung's reputation in making high end devices. Their quad core tablet will, i expect, out perform the prime or the 700 with ease, mind you without the fancy accessories.
Sometimes i wonder why i even bother...
Yeah, prime owners including myself have had some issues. Still I am, and always have been very satisfied with it. I sadly
fell on the "if I run 10 apps on my Prime it shuts down"-train and ran some tweaks. It's running "faster" now but I have no idea
why I did it as it was doing all I wanted in the first place!
Now to my point, norwegian site www.itavisen.no today released an article with pictures of a guys S3 actually "exploding"
shooting out white flames and melting. No kidding. The phone is on it's way to Samsung for testing. With a recall
possibility. As I said we've had our share, but this. And that's samsung, known for build quality. Lol
So no it's not only Asus.
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Ya as we constantly move towards faster, more powerfull, smaller, we are pushing limits and things will occasionally break down or not work as expected. Got a link to the S3 video?
The S3 in Canada is only dual core, kind of useless, why should i upgrade from my S2 which is clocked slightly slower and just has slightly less memory? Other than that my phone works awesome and after tweaking i dont have issues with anything.
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Ya as we constantly move towards faster, more powerfull, smaller, we are pushing limits and things will occasionally break down or not work as expected. Got a link to the S3 video?
The S3 in Canada is only dual core, kind of useless, why should i upgrade from my S2 which is clocked slightly slower and just has slightly less memory? Other than that my phone works awesome and after tweaking i dont have issues with anything.
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Here's a direct link to the forum with fotos http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056677034 . How they can claim it's a fault of the carmount and heater I don't know, must be very heat sensitive.
Looks like it fried near where the 3g/4g antennas are, perhaps a poor connection? Aparently samsung took the phone for testing, will be watching this topic closely since im interested in geting a SGS3 when the prices come down.
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The S3 in Canada is only dual core, kind of useless, why should i upgrade from my S2 which is clocked slightly slower and just has slightly less memory? Other than that my phone works awesome and after tweaking i dont have issues with anything.
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Snapdragon S2 and S3 use the Scorpion core, which takes some of the best features of both Cortex-A8 and Cortex-A9 ARM core designs and brings them into a single ARM core....
Snapdragon S4 uses the Krait core, which takes the best features of the Cortex-A9 and the Cortex-A15 ARM core designs with a much better manufacturing process to produce smaller chips that are far more power efficient and deliver amazing amounts of performance compared to its competitors (which are Cortex-A9 based). This is why dual-core Snapdragon S4 devices can go toe to toe with the quad-core Tegra 3 and Exynos 4 on the CPU front.
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This is a quote from http://www.tmonews.com/2012/05/editorial-why-a-snapdragon-s4-galaxy-s-iii-is-awesome/ . It kind of stings a little to see the dual core s4 beating my Prime in benchmarks with half the cores, but that is technology and I'm still happy with my prime.
As far as comparing the speed of the S2 to the S3, the S3 should be a very noticeable difference. A15 is much better than A9 AND Qualcomm has a license to develop their own ARM CPU cores. Also, the S2 will have half the RAM of the S3. I don't feel like that is "slightly less"
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They are different devices doing different things. Phones typically have a lot more going on with their internal processes than tablets, so I don't think that the SIII is going to be significantly faster in real-world use.
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Really? Tell me more about it, I'm using Transformer Prime and Galaxy S3 international version.
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Yeah, prime owners including myself have had some issues. Still I am, and always have been very satisfied with it. I sadly
fell on the "if I run 10 apps on my Prime it shuts down"-train and ran some tweaks. It's running "faster" now but I have no idea
why I did it as it was doing all I wanted in the first place!
Now to my point, norwegian site www.itavisen.no today released an article with pictures of a guys S3 actually "exploding"
shooting out white flames and melting. No kidding. The phone is on it's way to Samsung for testing. With a recall
possibility. As I said we've had our share, but this. And that's samsung, known for build quality. Lol
So no it's not only Asus.
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9 million pre orders and only 1 case of malfunction? Pretty damn good build quality.
ASUS Transformer Prime, unsure amount of sales, redundant "note taking" screen digitizer, incompetent IO and a whole heap load of complaints regarding screen flicker and FC issue. Well, we have a winner here.
It doesn't matter what scores benchmarking apps like Antutu shows, my Prime scores a 13k while my S3 scores 11.9k. It's more to being able to do what it's suppose to do, not crashing and more Force Crashes or having Severe lag while transfering files within the system.
S3 didn't kill the TF201, ASUS just failed to deliver what TF201 is meant to be.
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9 million pre orders and only 1 case of malfunction? Pretty damn good build quality.
ASUS Transformer Prime, unsure amount of sales, redundant "note taking" screen digitizer, incompetent IO and a whole heap load of complaints regarding screen flicker and FC issue. Well, we have a winner here.
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My point was I'd rather be one of the 2 million people with I/O problems (which it seems _motley are doing some great things with in his new 3.0.6 kernel) than to be the one in 9 million that gets the device that shoots out white flames when I'm walking around with it in my jeanspocket at a downward 45 degree angle. Just saying.
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My point was I'd rather be one of the 2 million people with I/O problems (which it seems _motley are doing some great things with in his new 3.0.6 kernel) than to be the one in 9 million that gets the device that shoots out white flames when I'm walking around with it in my jeanspocket at a downward 45 degree angle. Just saying.
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I don't think I can really draw a comparison between these two at all. It's different then apples and oranges, it's like an avocado and a rump roast.
The exploding GS3 doesn't tell me much, it's an extreme case and I don't know what other variables are thrown in the mix. Regardless of benchmark scores, I'm very happy with my prime. Is the quality better than that of the ipad? No, not at all in my opinion. But I didn't buy it to compare to my ipad, I bought it to play with and I have A LOT of fun with it building and modding and tweaking.
I will be moving to the new Archos line as soon as it is released so I need your guys help on which one to move to. The reason I ask is because I know that the 80 XS will have a rockchip processor while the 101XS will have a TI OMAP 4470. Which will be better in terms of development as well. I would really your opinions. Thanks
They both are very low end. Not very good for development considering not a lot of development for it. You should consider the nexus 7 or nexus 10 instead.
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Yea I know Nexus is better 100% of the time for development. No argument there. But I don't really like the fact that non of those had sd card slots. I really like Archos new design. Idk, I like having something different and Archos is just that. When I say development I mean that which will get more. I know that compared to other devices there is extremely little going on here. I guess it might all come down to which one Surdu supports lol. Anyone has any suggestions?
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Yea I know Nexus is better 100% of the time for development. No argument there. But I don't really like the fact that non of those had sd card slots. I really like Archos new design. Idk, I like having something different and Archos is just that. When I say development I mean that which will get more. I know that compared to other devices there is extremely little going on here. I guess it might all come down to which one Surdu supports lol. Anyone has any suggestions?
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I have the 80g9. The form factor is the same as the 8xs. I love the size of it. Typing on screen is easy and its just the right size for most every task. I find the larger tablets cumbersome to hold for longer periods.
I'm anxiously waiting for the 8xs here in n/a.
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Yea. The 80g9 was the perfect midpoint. I still want to know which would perform better though. TI OMAP4470 or rk3066
What are you doing with your tablet? From the videos I have seen, the new archos performs smooth and fast. The 8" I have not seen in action yet. But having my 80g9 for awhile now and running serdu's clean and fast rom, the only issue now is the amount of ram in my tablet. 512mb fills up quickly and a reboot is needed every so often to keep the tablet fast. You know when you have your ram filled as the tablet is slow to react.
A non issue with the tablets with 1 gb of ram.
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oh okay good. I also have 512mb Ram and it's killing me lol. My only other issue now is the keyboard size in the cover board. An 8 inch keyboard might be too small. Did you check that out by chance? Surdu's Clean and Fast is the best, It's what I'm running now.
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oh okay good. I also have 512mb Ram and it's killing me lol. My only other issue now is the keyboard size in the cover board. An 8 inch keyboard might be too small. Did you check that out by chance? Surdu's Clean and Fast is the best, It's what I'm running now.
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I have not seen either gen 10 device.
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It usually just comes down to what you are looking for. a bigger screen in the 101(10.1 inch) or more portability in the 80(8 inch) all preferences
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It usually just comes down to what you are looking for. a bigger screen in the 101(10.1 inch) or more portability in the 80(8 inch) all preferences
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I consider both portable. I'm used to lugging around a 17" Acer notebook. I find the 8" form factor much nicer to use from an ergo standpoint. Easy to type in portrait and still a big enough screen to do other things.
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I bought the 80 g9 because of the form factor as well. I'm not too sure about the 8 inch this time around though. That is because of the bezel size, it is way too big.
For those of you who didn't see it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hWuXa7BTIUM
What do you guys think?
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I bought the 80 g9 because of the form factor as well. I'm not too sure about the 8 inch this time around though. That is because of the bezel size, it is way too big.
For those of you who didn't see it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hWuXa7BTIUM
What do you guys think?
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Its still small enough to reach the entire screen with your two thumbs. That's all that matters.
As you can see its more portable than the 10xs too
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Archos 80XS use Rockchip 3066 from China! => 101XS better ( use TI OMAP 4470 )
I don't see the difference if it originates from China. Other than cheaper production costs. Not sure if TI makes there chips from USA though. I just honestly don't see your point on how that makes the 101XS better because of that. If you care to explain how that would be great. Thanks for the response though, I appreciate it.
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I don't see the difference if it originates from China. Other than cheaper production costs. Not sure if TI makes there chips from USA though. I just honestly don't see your point on how that makes the 101XS better because of that. If you care to explain how that would be great. Thanks for the response though, I appreciate it.
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I suspect that he was referring to the fact that there is a stereotype (not entirely undeserved it must be said) that RockChip processors are of a lower quality and performace level than their TI, Qualcomm, etc. alternatives.
As of now there is less of a quality and performace gap (so far as I am aware) between RockChip CPUs and the CPUs of other manufacturers. I doubt very much if you would notice any performance issues if you went the 80xs over the 101xs, but (as you can tell if you've looked at the dev section for these devices) there is slightly more developer activity for the 101xs, so that may say something about the processor.
Could I enquire which of the two devices you chose in the end? (Assuming you chose either of them, of course.)