Sense 4 Keyboard + Trace - Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE

Back in the Sense 1.0 days on my original Incredible, I loved the stock Sense keyboard, as did a lot of other people. It was widely regarded as the best Android keyboard before the advent of things like Swype, SwiftKey, etc. Much better than Stock, for sure.
Since those days, I've moved to Swype. There are a lot of things I don't like about Swype, but I put up with all of it because it's the fastest and easiest way to type which is the most important thing.
Some of my problems (at least the ones that come to mind) with Swype are as follows:
They constantly change button arrangement with each new version
They refuse to remove the language button if only 1 language is enabled, despite the fact that everyone in their forums asks for it
Essentially zero configuration options
Doesn't use Google's own voice engine
Tedious installation (not a very big deal)
Now, I don't know how I missed this until now, but I just came across the Trace option that has apparently been around since Sense 3.0 and is included in Sense 4. It really seems to be the best of both worlds. I get the speed benefits of Swype but with better (OS-matching) design, better button layout, and uses Google's voice engine (which among other benefits means that I'll see the words as I say them, not when I'm done speaking). And of course, no tedious installation since it is stock.
One of the great things about Swype is it's accuracy and text prediction, which I'm sure the HTC keyboard will not match exactly, but I feel like as long as it's close, it will be good enough considering all the other aforementioned benefits.
In the brief amount of time since I learned of the existence of this feature, I've looked into a few reviews. The general consensus seems to be that it is pretty darn good, although there were some that didn't really think it was quite there yet. But, I have also seen some people who've said it's greatly improved in Sense 4, which is even better news. And some of the people who noted the vast improvements were people who didn't like it in Sense 3.0. So the majority of users, those who already liked it, will like it even more, and those who didn't like it before will probably like it now. It seems like an all-around win.
Until today, I probably would have installed Swype on Day 1 of having my Incredible 4G. But now I'm definitely planning to stick with the stock HTC keyboard until I'm given a reason to switch, which I don't expect to be any time soon.
What about you guys? Thoughts?

Because this phone is taking so long to come out, I'm considering getting a Sony Ion or a Sony SX imported. Their keyboard looks pretty good. Nice clean and minimal.
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Because this phone is taking so long to come out, I'm considering getting a Sony Ion or a Sony SX imported. Their keyboard looks pretty good. Nice clean and minimal.
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So long to come out? It wasn't announced a month ago yet. Although that keyboard is nice, I don't see how I could get it to work on Verizon. If you're able to make/find an app that mimics it, do let me know though!
I've been using AnySoftKeyboard to replace the Sense Keyboard since I downgraded from the orig Incredible to the R2D2 Droid 2 (my love for geekdom superceeded my need for a strong phone). However, over the years ASK has started to bloat and breakdown in usability since my use for the keyboard involves ignoring auto-correct semi-regularly and put in my own spaces after words. I have been longing for a keyboard since then that lets me type my own words, select that the spelling is correct, and press space afterwards without auto-correcting anyway to the closest spelling, while being black/dark gray, with lots of alternate/special character options.
Granted, I have been lazy and haven't been looking for a new keyboard yet, but I don't think Swype and I would get along.
As for the voice recognition, there's still a slight delay to it. I don't think we're quite at instantaneous voice-to-text translation yet, or at least not at a phone level. The video I saw of it in use was the GNex, admittedly, and it was probably 2-3 seconds behind. The speed impressed me, but it was not instantaneous after each word.
I shall look forward to this new Sense keyboard! Though to be honest I was looking forward to putting a custom ROM on the phone asap for a pure ICS experience. I'm tired of waiting for Verizon to release updates. Took me a year to get Gingerbread.

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Screw the iPhone interface (sort of), This looks promising

This looks pretty interesting:
WhoNeedsAniPhone.com is looking for beta testers for a launcher/weather-widget/sliding unlocker based on Flash....
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That really puzzles me why MS and or HTC already have made a GUI based on flash or similar? It's a good standard.
This could actually be really promising.
Looks COOL, thanks!
Woo hoo..that looks awesome..hope I get chosen to become a beta tester.
I submitted an application as well.
Co-Worker showed this today. I must be behind as many folks probably are aware this is out.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/?en
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/tour.html
looks nice
but fiddy bucks when it will be eventually made for free by someone else?
patience is a virtue
Spb has to step its game up! Don't get me wrong it (mobile shell) is a good app. But, you got touchflo (buttonflo in my case), all of the iPhone clones and this app. The winmob launcher market is getting crowded and that is good for us.
The only thing that's nice on the iPhone is the size of it's screen and it's multi-touch screen. IMO the interface is stupid. It's more for the average simple minded person where everything is in big and handicap accessible which in turn is contrasted by the annoying slide to unlock which is a pain in the ass to use.
iPhone vs HTC Hermes/Tytn/AT&T 8525
I just posted an iPhone vs HTC Tytn review at http://neilberman.blogspot.com/
Appreciate any comments you may have...
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I just posted an iPhone vs HTC Tytn review at http://neilberman.blogspot.com/
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This was a great article.
I liked your analogies used in the article. I think towards the end you focused less on grammar and more on finishing the article though. The beginning seemed much more paced and detailed.
Great article though.. thanks.
now this looks very very interestin!
Well color me interested. Yep, signed up for the beta like everyone else. This is exactly what the WM platform needs I think to get some broader adoption. As with any good development this looks to make use of what's already out there that works well along with things that people feel are bad or missing from current offerings. Can't wait to see it in action.
This is going to improve and completely change our beloved phoneys..
How about making themes for the cooked roms.. A crazy black and moving flash theme..or how about an Elfie Theme with little elfs running around.
Now - GUI guys, you are getting challenged by this new feature of our world.
This is nice, but I don't get it...
Why reduce the today screen to a single button list? I really enjoy being able to precisely customise what is on my today screen, and being able to have any infos I need/want at a glance.
Something more hybrid could in my opinion be better.
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This is nice, but I don't get it...
Why reduce the today screen to a single button list? I really enjoy being able to precisely customise what is on my today screen, and being able to have any infos I need/want at a glance.
Something more hybrid could in my opinion be better.
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I agree, all this iphone style hype and all you end up with is a less usable phone. Apple have everyone fooled, people really need to slow down and have a look at what is really happening.
I would love to see apple similar interface WITH the tabs at the bottom, as "primary apps" each linked to a full screen (one of them could be the "today" tab that would display the today screen if tapped) where you could add or delete and even modify the icons for any programs you wanted on any screen grouping all the applications requiring internet on one screen for example.... seems like a simple idea but haven't seen anything like it... or am I wrong?
this looks quite promising.. if only there were some video shots of it working..
I can only imagine this will be slow.. if its flash its sure to be..
Also.. why have another app running all the time.. the only way for this to really really be useful is for someone to totally modify a ROM to have this as the default shell (which I imagine would be a lot of work) which would then be quite useful.
The other thing is that the Today screen is one of windows mobiles best features over symbian or the iphone as far as im concerned.. its a brilliant interface for presenting a lot of info neatly..
This does look nice.. but like all the other app launchers i bet i'd give up after a few days and go back to the tried and tested today screen.
It looks like it might be good.

[Q] Who ISN'T having ANY problems?

I just want to make sure that the people that have problems are only the few of many who need to speak out. This is for people to speak out about NOT having issues.
GPS isn't an issue, at least to me.
According to this very small poll you have a little over a 75% chance of getting a good one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=7329
Here's another regarding upgrading to ICS that shows a little over 80% having no problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=7310
Having said that, I have returned two so far.
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According to this very small poll you have a little over a 75% chance of getting a good one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=7329
Here's another regarding upgrading to ICS that shows a little over 80% having no problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=7310
Having said that, I have returned two so far.
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I'm finally getting my 1st TP on the 19th, and hopefully it doesn't have any issues. I can understand the first 'batch' having trouble, and hopefully I'm not part of that. Wish me luck, I suppose.
Good luck man! You'll get a good one. Hater's gonna hate around here...just don't listen to it. You have to remember also that people will tend to seek out a forum for support when they are having problems before they go on to give positive feedback. Especially with the average person who doesn't frequent forums much.
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I just want to make sure that the people that have problems are only the few of many who need to speak out. This is for people to speak out about NOT having issues.
GPS isn't an issue, at least to me.
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Mine is flawless. WiFi is just as strong or stronger than my HTC Inspire. I'm at work so have not played with it too much, but I just took it out of the box. I love this thing. I will report back but so far with what it has done, I do not have any problems. Also, I have not tested GPS, mainly because like you, I do not care about the GPS functionality I knew this going into it. So you will get a good one, I have faith!
Reading here I see so many gripes and had so many worries, but now that I have my tablet in my hand all of those worries are relieved, this thing is fantastic. In my opinion way better than the iPad that everyone keeps telling me I should have got instead.
Android Forever.
Mine is also flawless. 100% so (hope I dont jinx myself.)
Mine doesn't have a single defect or flaw.
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Once I factory reset mine after the upgrade to ICS, no issues with the device. GPS is fine as far as I am concerned. Sure, it's not strong but the previous one wasn't stellar either. WiFi I don't see an issue with at all.
And I even have a serial # on mine
working great here
Wifi is definitely weak-ish on mine, but no big deal. Everything (besides GPS which I haven't tried) else seems to work great.
Not gonna lie, its flawless over here. Though I can sympathize for those with problems. Really bad luck.
Mine works Great!
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Really? Flawless? ... cmon everything has flaws to some extent.
Now, sometimes they are tolerable or a "meh whatever", but every device has flaws.
My washing machine has some UI flaws, but nothing I can't live with. Same for my car, and computer OS (linux), and ...
So, everyone should simply read between lines. There will be "Flawless" primes, and also completely "Fawked" primes.
Some issues are more real than others, but they all have issues in the eyes of the person holding it.
I finally got a perfect one...
I'm not having any problems - because I have not bought one yet... ... being happy to not be an early adopter has it's advantages.
I do sympathize with those having issues though!
No issues here. Very happy owner!
also perfect here no problem what so ever
Two happy owners
My wife and I both bought one and the docks. Both 32GB gray. We both upgraded to ICS, and both work and look flawless.
The only complaint I would have is the java. This thing has the power to run the full java virtual machine, instead of just the phone based java. That is not a fault of the tablet and my wife and I both are extremely satisfied - no - better said thrilled with the Prime. I think as Asus (however its pronounced ) releases even more firmware updates, it will get even better. I upgraded mine from a Nook Color that I had rooted with CM7, and my wife decided on this over an iPad. She's very glad she chose this over the iPad.
RR II
I'd like to thank EVERYONE for their input, even posts outside of this thread. I'm glad that I was able to see a positive outlook about the Prime as well as problems some people had as well, just to know what to expect in case something went wrong. This thread specifically makes me excited for my Prime coming in late tomorrow, and I can barely wait!
Thank you again to everyone! (Would "thank" everyone post-by-post, but I'm limited to 8 per day.)
i bought mine yesterday and i am very happy with it.. havent got the ics update yet because turkish update hasnt been released yet.. i am so excited about the ics update as i have tried cm9 on my sgsII and saw how amazing the ics is. This thing is great enough to make me happy as i always want to have the best.
Edit: I just realised this is my first post eventhough i have joined and have been following xda developers for a year..

List of ROMS that restore the Tablet UI

Whenever I'm finally able to get my hands on a N10, the first thing I'm going to do is root it and put on a custom ROM that gets rid of that ridiculous Phablet UI. For those of you who have been flashing ROMS on this device, what other ROMS besides Paranoid Android have successfully restored the original Tablet UI? It'd be handy to have a list here for others who are wondering the same thing. It's kind of hard to tell on some of them, especially if they are nightly-based ROMs, which usually don't include a changelog or list of features, and for some reason screenshots in the OP are always lacking.
Also, of the ones with the ability to switch the UI, which ones seem to be the most stable in tablet UI mode?
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MaDoCo ROM
This ROM doesn't fully bring back the original UI, but does allow the user to move buttons to the left and right of the bar for easy reach. As you can see in the image below, certain buttons can be moved to whichever side of the screen you like. Mix and match them, or even move them all to the opposite side depending whether you're a lefty or a righty!
Aokp is my favourite ROM of all and had the option to enable tablet ui on their previous 4.1.2. builds. I expect them to implement the option on 4.2.1. soon, and I of course expect them to create builds for the nexus 10 too.
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I don't see many ROMs supporting the soon-to-be-deprecated old tablet UI... and quite frankly, after using it a bit, the new UI is not bad at all...
I'm definitely keeping my eye out for an AOKP ROM for the N10. I used it on both my Galaxy Nexus and XOOM and it was one of my favorites (Currently, I'm using CNA, but that's about to change because he's way too unreliable, and his updates take longer than Verizon sometimes, which kind of defeats one of the purposes for using a custom ROM.)
And Craig, whatever floats your boat. My issue isn't necessarily with the fact that they are moving the UI around, my issue is with the fact that they are forcing change on people who prefer the old UI. Some of us realize how unique and efficient it is, and would like to have the choice to continue to use it.
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I'm definitely keeping my eye out for an AOKP ROM for the N10. I used it on both my Galaxy Nexus and XOOM and it was one of my favorites (Currently, I'm using CNA, but that's about to change because he's way too unreliable, and his updates take longer than Verizon sometimes, which kind of defeats one of the purposes for using a custom ROM.)
And Craig, whatever floats your boat. My issue isn't necessarily with the fact that they are moving the UI around, my issue is with the fact that they are forcing change on people who prefer the old UI. Some of us realize how unique and efficient it is, and would like to have the choice to continue to use it.
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Don't get me wrong... I understand that different people have different opinions and I'm not trying to force you to change your opinion... I merely stated that even though the old tablet UI still works with Android 4.2, it is no longer officially supported by Google and will likely be deprecated in a future release... so the number of ROMs supporting the old tablet UI will be considerably small... I just said give it a chance... that said, I leave it to you to make up your own mind!
AOKP is available for the Nexus 10, but it does not have the old tablet UI yet...
arrtoodeetoo said:
I'm definitely keeping my eye out for an AOKP ROM for the N10. I used it on both my Galaxy Nexus and XOOM and it was one of my favorites (Currently, I'm using CNA, but that's about to change because he's way too unreliable, and his updates take longer than Verizon sometimes, which kind of defeats one of the purposes for using a custom ROM.)
And Craig, whatever floats your boat. My issue isn't necessarily with the fact that they are moving the UI around, my issue is with the fact that they are forcing change on people who prefer the old UI. Some of us realize how unique and efficient it is, and would like to have the choice to continue to use it.
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There is an unofficial port done for the N10 right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013361
Been running it for a few hours, and a few items are missing but nothing too major. They are working on getting those missing features back. I'm hoping the N10 because an officially supported device for the team.
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There is an unofficial port done for the N10 right here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013361
Been running it for a few hours, and a few items are missing but nothing too major. They are working on getting those missing features back. I'm hoping the N10 because an officially supported device for the team.
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Just to clarify, it's not a port... it's an unofficial build until it gets officially integrated...
Just my opinion , but I suggest people get used to the new UI , it is just like anything else, companies evolve , and not everyone likes it ..
Car companies change paint colors, dash packages, and options.
PC companies change cases, keyboards monitors and mice.
At some point you are just going to have to grow up and move on.
If a dev wants to build a ROM because he/she likes the old UI then that is awesome, but if it was me, the first person that begged for it, would make me NOT want to do it .
You could always learn to do it yourself ...
(and yes I do know how to do it myself, because I learned, not that I even want the old UI anymore)
personally i love the new ui
I liked Tablet UI mainly because I could see what time it was and access notifications from within fullscreen apps. But now that stuff is put on the top bar, which gets hidden on fullscreen apps.
Updated the OP to add MoDoCo ROM to the list. This ROM doesn't bring back the full UI, but gives the user control over specific softkey placement on the navigation bar, which is something Google should have done in the first place when they decided to change stuff up. The biggest complaint people have with the new UI is that the buttons you use the most are in the center of the screen away from the thumbs. Sucks for people like me who have short thumbs. The MoDoCo solution is perfectly acceptable for me and may even be preferred by left handed users. :good:
My ROM now has a mod to move the navi button to the left... still a mod zip until I learn to code it to be a configurable option!
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My ROM now has a mod to move the navi button to the left... still a mod zip until I learn to code it to be a configurable option!
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Didn't you say that your Roms will never ever have it?
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Didn't you say that your Roms will never ever have it?
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I meant the old tablet UI... I simply have a mod to move the navi buttons... status bar is still on the top... it's still the so called "phablet" UI...

Should you get a HOX+? With Flowchart!

All the "help me decide" threads are getting really old and they're cluttering the board. You should be able to compare specs yourself and determine what fits you best. If you have some unfortunate disability which prevents you from comparing specs here is is a nifty tool for you.
If you have compared the specs and are having trouble making up your mind, I have constructed this handy-dandy flowchart.
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If you still don't know what you want, I suggest choosing a phone at random because a bunch of random people on the internet aren't going to make a better decision than yourself.
If you are wondering about possible new features gained from 3rd party ROM development (CM, AOSP, AOKP, etc) just buy a Nexus 4. Never buy a phone expecting to get new features in the future. Buy a phone and never expect more than what's in your hand.
Hope this helps clean up the board.
AHAHAHAHAHA epic! i was going to do one of these!
Hahahahaha, i love the "Do you Like Sense?" --> "Yes" ---> "Wrong answer." Brilliant.
I think theres one important factor there that should fit in up there next to the Nexus 4, While the Nexus 4 is a very nice phone it wasnt an option for me because it only has 16gb of storage which unfortunately ruled it out because I dont live in the cloud (Not now, and not for a very long time)
As for Sense I'm going to get shot for actually kinda liking it arent i? and yes I've had stock Android, my last phone was a GSM Galaxy Nexus, I think stock android is awesome but I dont think Sense 4 is that shabby...I kind of like some of the interface over stock to be honest... and between the two skinned Android versions I've used I'll take Sense over TouchWiz
This chart is good and also funny I'm also one of those with the wrong answer.. I just got spoiled by some of the nifty features and aesthetics since having the HTC Desire, and it was my first ever Android phone. It's not perfect though, I wish Sense retained some of the slick animations from stock Android, got rid of the 3D cube Rosie animation, and that stock snappiness.. heh, that is why I'll also be flashing stock ports in the future, as I did with my Desire
Path to Nexus 4 is too straightforward. There are more obstacles on it.
At least it has double fragility due to glass on both sides. Probably even more since glass extends up to the rim (for example SGS III is pretty fragile due to that reason) while One X(+) has thicker border on top and bottom.
So path to Nexus 4 should be only recommended if one is willing to use some kind of additional protection.
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All the "help me decide" threads are getting really old and they're cluttering the board. You should be able to compare specs yourself and determine what fits you best. If you have some unfortunate disability which prevents you from comparing specs here is is a nifty tool for you.
If you have compared the specs and are having trouble making up your mind, I have constructed this handy-dandy flowchart.
If you still don't know what you want, I suggest choosing a phone at random because a bunch of random people on the internet aren't going to make a better decision than yourself.
If you are wondering about possible new features gained from 3rd party ROM development (CM, AOSP, AOKP, etc) just buy a Nexus 4. Never buy a phone expecting to get new features in the future. Buy a phone and never expect more than what's in your hand.
Hope this helps clean up the board.
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HAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!! Awesome. Great explanation.

Whatever happened to Federico Carnales?

Back a few years in the early days of android. There once was an app called "launcher pro". For anyone that's been around for some time this app will sound very familiar.
I still remember when I first discovered it and the excitement that came whenever I noticed there was an update for it. With each update the launcher became more and more my favorite. So much so, it had become my standard to compare to. Whenever I tried out another launcher I immediately noticed the difference. Nothing else seemed to compare to the responsiveness and overall smoothness of LP. I would always return to LP because the others seemed to pale in comparison to its glory.
It became one of the first apps I installed anytime I got a new phone. To me it had became synonymous with android and its capabilities. I ended up using it as my daily driver for the next couple of years to come.
Unfortunately Ice Cream Sandwich killed compatibility with LP and so ended my long time relationship with one of the best apps I've ever used To this day I still ponder on the incredible potential exhibited through this app by the mind of an amazing developer.
Federico Carnales is/was a staple for the android community and an example what determination and effort can produce. He's been frighteningly absent from the android world for roughly a year and a half now with his applications on the play store even today. However there they lay unsupported and unfit to install in newer versions of android.
So what happened? Where did he go? I recall a letter written to him because many other like minded individuals began scouring the net in fear of his death. I personally gave up searching the net for an answer for his apparent silence.
So am I the only to remember the good ol days of launcher pro? What was your experience with this app?
Does anyone know of his whereabouts?
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I'm not sure but I think this should have been placed in the general section. It was meant for more of a general topic than a question. I appreciate your help in moving this to general. Thank you
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Try posting in General next time... lol
Ha ha, thanks for the tip.
Why is the right door always locked?
Anyone know? Hope he is ok.
any news?
Word. As an early android user myself Launcher Pro was a beacon of hope for functional, efficient and beautiful app seekers like me. I still remember the impending launch of the social stream widget that would show a combined stream of all my social networks. I could be wrong but I think at the time the only other widget with such a capability was provided by stock launchers. HTC sense if my memory serves me right.
I lost little time in deciding to buy the pro version on what was a launcher that absolutely had no competition for the features I was looking for. I recall even then Frederico would take his time in implementing new features. That was cool because Frederico was connecting to my needs.
I came upon this post when I happened to search for Frederico after chancing upon LP on the play store and being reminded of my early experiences with Android. I too was intrigued to notice that the app hasn't been updated in years.
Wonder what happened to the developer.
It's nothing uncommon for developers just to stop and walk away. It happens everyday. Mainly with Android developers.
I've been using LP since the first Galaxy S phone came out. Was using it until the other day on a Galaxy S5 with Android L. Wanted to try it on the Pocophone now but it's not on Google Play anymore. Awesome piece of work ...
Yeah... i just wanted to re-download it myself a couple days ago and noticed it was missing... i took the time to chat with Google play help, and this is what they gave me in answer, after checking with the Google play team...
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I just randomly thought about this for the first time inamy years lol. Anyone know what happened?
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I just randomly thought about this for the first time inamy years lol. Anyone know what happened?
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Same here. It really shows what a great app it was if there are this many strangers reminiscing about it over the years. I found similar posts/pages via a Google search of others that have wondered as well.

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