Hey guys, this thread is about flashing new firmware and s-on. I know at the moment it's not possible to flash new firmware while you are s-on.
I read a lot of people can not run properly a ICS-rom cause they are unable to flash new firmware cause they are s-on.
Will this ever change for them, or will they always be stuck with the older firmware and as a effect of that stuck with Gb. OTA updates are also not working for them cause most of the custom roms have disabled this function.
For guys who are s-on and want to try a ICS-rom, i flashed the mwakious rom using 4EXT recovery, worked great for me no problems whatsoever(im still using old firmware:10.59.9020.00_10.15.9020.06)
Anybody an idea, maybe we can hold a little brainstorm session.
Tom3D said:
Anybody an idea, maybe we can hold a little brainstorm session.
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U could but u will get new hboot from china so wait for official ics update should not be long
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anryl said:
U could but u will get new hboot from china so wait for official ics update should not be long
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Ok, and that is also possible for people who are already running a custom ICS rom at the moment?
cause if the people already run a custom rom, and the dev. of that rom made OTA impossible then that people with s-on will never be able to update there firmware.
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Ok, and that is also possible for people who are already running a custom ICS rom at the moment?
cause if the people already run a custom rom, and the dev. of that rom made OTA impossible then that people with s-on will never be able to update there firmware.
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U wil have to install latest ruu for the ota to work and update ur hboot and radio then u can again flash custom rom's
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Hi all
From what i see in the Sensation forums, you have to 'upgrade firmware' in order to install ICS even on a completelt s-off'd and rooted phone. This doesnt make sense to me because youre installing a custom OS which has nothing to do with the official stuff. Anyway the real point.. do we as evo 3d users (gsm) have to go thru the same hastle when ics comes out, and is it a one time thing or you have to di it everytime before flashing a new rom? Man i have no idea how to flash stuff from bootloader or whatever so im nervous about this, im s-off tho
Thanks, expert advice would be greatly appreciated!
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PlayStationHidden said:
Hi all
From what i see in the Sensation forums, you have to 'upgrade firmware' in order to install ICS even on a completelt s-off'd and rooted phone. This doesnt make sense to me because youre installing a custom OS which has nothing to do with the official stuff. Anyway the real point.. do we as evo 3d users (gsm) have to go thru the same hastle when ics comes out, and is it a one time thing or you have to di it everytime before flashing a new rom? Man i have no idea how to flash stuff from bootloader or whatever so im nervous about this, im s-off tho
Thanks, expert advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Firmware has to be updated to work with ICS kernel (3.x), I believe if you can use a 2.x kernel, no firmware change is necessary.
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Firmware has to be updated to work with ICS kernel (3.x), I believe if you can use a 2.x kernel, no firmware change is necessary.
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Sounds fair enough.. but i tried virtious rom with ics and sense 3.6 on my 3d,didnt upgrade or anything but it installed perfectly. Secondly, how is this update carried out exactly? Do i only have to do it once or everytimei get a new ics rom?
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Hi guys, i'm just thinking about this:
If i downgrade hboot and i do root and recovery, when ics will be released i'll be able to update to it (FOTA)? Of course i'll go back to stock by RUU.exe
LoKKeR said:
Hi guys, i'm just thinking about this:
If i downgrade hboot and i do root and recovery, when ics will be released i'll be able to update to it (FOTA)? Of course i'll go back to stock by RUU.exe
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You can also wait till they have a rooted copy of it so you don't have to unroot to update it
Ok that's right xP But i can update to it if i get back to stock or not?
LoKKeR said:
Hi guys, i'm just thinking about this:
If i downgrade hboot and i do root and recovery, when ics will be released i'll be able to update to it (FOTA)? Of course i'll go back to stock by RUU.exe
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In all honesty, you can stay on stock, but there will be rooted version's, rom's which you'll want which will make the stock one look a bit naff, plus you won't be able to use apps like titanium and adfree etc.
Personally i'd never go with a stock rom, unless i had to. i'd probably get rid of my phone if i had to stay on stock.
I only want to know if i'll be able to update or no to ics >.<
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In all honesty, you can stay on stock, but there will be rooted version's, rom's which you'll want which will make the stock one look a bit naff, plus you won't be able to use apps like titanium and adfree etc.
Personally i'd never go with a stock rom, unless i had to. i'd probably get rid of my phone if i had to stay on stock.
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Lol depends if it didn't come with bloat ware I would be happy just the way it was... Well I would wanna the tweak the icons and my own theme on it remove the bloat and uneeded stuff ... Stock always runs smooth less bloat more space... Battery life is great
Just hate the bloat crap they cram into it...
I can't understand you. Can you re-write the answer with a simpler language?!
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Ok that's right xP But i can update to it if i get back to stock or not?
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The answer is yes.I was unlocked and rooted now Iam back on stock and over the air works.you need s-off to run ruu though.I suggest you wait till icecream update and then open and root
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josephnero said:
The answer is yes.I was unlocked and rooted now Iam back on stock and over the air works.you need s-off to run ruu though.I suggest you wait till icecream update and then open and root
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You dont need s-off to run ruu.exe lol
josephnero said:
The answer is yes.I was unlocked and rooted now Iam back on stock and over the air works.you need s-off to run ruu though.I suggest you wait till icecream update and then open and root
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Mmmm... but it's the same if i unlock now right?! So i unlock now and when ics is released i'll get back to stock Right?
Just make a nandroid of the stock rom once you have recovery cwm and then you can simply 'superwipe' and restore, then just ota update.
I never even used the htc_unlock site because I had a cid_001 phone.
But first i have to downgrade the bootloader. i have done it. It have changed my android version now i'm updating by ota to lastest firmware. And then i s-off and install recovery and do a nandroidbackup right? Answer yes or no.
meangreenie said:
Just make a nandroid of the stock rom once you have recovery cwm and then you can simply 'superwipe' and restore, then just ota update.
I never even used the htc_unlock site because I had a cid_001 phone.
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You can't take over the air without stock recovery
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You can't take over the air without stock recovery
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oh, thats foiled that plan then
is there a stock recovery image available to download for.. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img command ? or would i just put the downgrade PG86IMG.zip file on root again? how should i go about it
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oh, thats foiled that plan then
is there a stock recovery image available to download for.. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img command ? or would i just put the downgrade PG86IMG.zip file on root again? how should i go about it
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Here's the stock recovery -------> http://db.tt/8kvjRqec
I agree with whoever said wait and get the rooted version.
A stock ICS rooted ROM will more than likely be up within 24 hr of it rolling, which is probably before most people get it naturally anyway.
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Lothaen said:
I agree with whoever said wait and get the rooted version.
A stock ICS rooted ROM will more than likely be up within 24 hr of it rolling, which is probably before most people get it naturally anyway.
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Best route to take
mnomaanw said:
You dont need s-off to run ruu.exe lol
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really?someone told me you need s-off to run ruu.lol
There isn't a topic where is explained everything?? Damn >.<
If i want get back to stock, i have to use the ruu.exe or PG86IMG.zip? I need to s-off or s-on for this?
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There isn't a topic where is explained everything?? Damn >.<
If i want get back to stock, i have to use the ruu.exe or PG86IMG.zip? I need to s-off or s-on for this?
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If you wanna go stock just go to hboot fastboot boot recovery.img now wipe everything not your SD card . Go back to hboot fastboot flash oem lock . Now run the latest Ruu exe and your good to go man.
Reaper midnight blue .
Been reading over at Mik of a lot of EVO LTE getting bricked trying to go back to old saved back up any one here and if so what was the steps ?
I know more than one of us bricked trying to flash the older firmware after flashing the new firmware.
I should have made a thread dedicated to the issue rather than just a post in the update thread....could have saved a lot of eVos
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How do I avoid brick?
Stay off new firmware? I am currently rooted via zedomax and s-off via lazy panda.
I downloaded the latest radio and PRI from Capt. Throwback but haven't flashed them yet.
snakecharmer23 said:
How do I avoid brick?
Stay off new firmware? I am currently rooted via zedomax and s-off via lazy panda.
I downloaded the latest radio and PRI from Capt. Throwback but haven't flashed them yet.
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Just don't try and flash the older firmware after flashing the new one.
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How do I avoid brick?
Stay off new firmware? I am currently rooted via zedomax and s-off via lazy panda.
I downloaded the latest radio and PRI from Capt. Throwback but haven't flashed them yet.
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I'm planning to hold off an updating to the latest firmware until I flash a ROM that's based on the latest software version. If you're running a ROM with an older base, using the latest firmware could cause compatibility issues, and since downgrading could brick the phone, you'd be stuck. Unless you're experiencing connection problems, I don't think there's much reason to risk it.
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Yup. Bricked here. Tried to reflash the last firmware because I had no service ay all after flashing the latest. I actually had service on aosp toms but nothing on sense. I really didn't think I was taking much of a risk being s-off
Edit. Just browsed the forum, brick threads all over the place. Most of these ppl are able to access bootloader/recovery. NOT BRICKED.
A brick is totally unresponsive
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Yeah those are mostly people who don't understand their bootloader
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I had an honest-to-goodness brick from downgrading firmware. No bootloader, no recovery, no charging light, no combinations of buttons worked, cpu in Qualcomm download mode, but lazy panda unbricker couldn't find it.
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What do you mean flashing and oldr firmware if you updated to new firmwwre so.i can no longer flash mean rom 3.4 and under????
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mingo2120 said:
What do you mean flashing and oldr firmware if you updated to new firmwwre so.i can no longer flash mean rom 3.4 and under????
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If you installed the latest OTA, it's not a good idea to flash to an older version so you can root. You're likely to brick the phone.
Sucks, cause I wanted to flash CM10 once the camera was fixed, but looks like I gotta wait til a workaround is invented.
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What do you mean flashing and oldr firmware if you updated to new firmwwre so.i can no longer flash mean rom 3.4 and under????
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Caladbolg said:
If you installed the latest OTA, it's not a good idea to flash to an older version so you can root. You're likely to brick the phone.
Sucks, cause I wanted to flash CM10 once the camera was fixed, but looks like I gotta wait til a workaround is invented.
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The issue is firmware, not software.
You can still install whatever ROM/ROM version you want.
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I'm planning to hold off an updating to the latest firmware until I flash a ROM that's based on the latest software version. If you're running a ROM with an older base, using the latest firmware could cause compatibility issues, and since downgrading could brick the phone, you'd be stuck. Unless you're experiencing connection problems, I don't think there's much reason to risk it.
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what about doing the reverse? keeping the older firmware but installing a ROM based on the newer?
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The issue is firmware, not software.
You can still install whatever ROM/ROM version you want.
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My bad. X.x
I just got s-off through lazy panda yesterday and installed twrp, now I wanna install synergy rom but it is based off the newest ota base, while I of course have the 1.13.651.1 base. Can i still install this rom and will it function as it should? Do I need to find some modified RUU that will give me the latest OTA without losing s-off?
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I just got s-off through lazy panda yesterday and installed twrp, now I wanna install synergy rom but it is based off the newest ota base, while I of course have the 1.13.651.1 base. Can i still install this rom and will it function as it should? Do I need to find some modified RUU that will give me the latest OTA without losing s-off?
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Just install the ROM.
If you want to update your firmware, that's separate.
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Just install the ROM.
If you want to update your firmware, that's separate.
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So just to be clear, ROM's never include firmware (except for maybe official OTA updates)?
According to this, "a phone’s firmware is basically its operating system." So do ROMs depend on a certain "operating system" to function properly? If I have a ROM that was built on an older firmware, does that mean it may not function properly with the newer one? But this won't brick a phone, just maybe make the ROM not function (but you can still flash a different one)?
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Yup. Bricked here. Tried to reflash the last firmware because I had no service ay all after flashing the latest. I actually had service on aosp toms but nothing on sense. I really didn't think I was taking much of a risk being s-off
Edit. Just browsed the forum, brick threads all over the place. Most of these ppl are able to access bootloader/recovery. NOT BRICKED.
A brick is totally unresponsive
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yeah bricked mine to i think but ubuntu is recognizing mine in download mode when i plug in to cpu it says it is in QHSUSB_Dload has anyone figured a way to unbrick from here
Try the unbrick tool in the lazy panda thread, its for a very specific kind of brick but it may work
I have a question.. I am s on hboot 1.15 htc dev unlocked. I want to run meanrom 3.6 but it is based off the new update. I have read you can use fast boot or flash gui to flash the kernel and than flash the Rom after that. Question is.. Is this true for my setup and is there any concern about not having actually updated everything on the update? I read stuff about a Rom or base mismatch issue..Thanks for any help..
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I have a question.. I am s on hboot 1.15 htc dev unlocked. I want to run meanrom 3.6 but it is based off the new update. I have read you can use fast boot or flash gui to flash the kernel and than flash the Rom after that. Question is.. Is this true for my setup and is there any concern about not having actually updated everything on the update? I read stuff about a Rom or base mismatch issue..Thanks for any help..
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You got it...just fastboot flash the boot.img from the ROM, then flash the ROM in recovery and you should be all set. You shouldn't need to install the latest firmware for it to work, but it's probably recommended. That being said, since you're s-on you won't be able to anyway. Should be fine with just the kernel and ROM.
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Thanks
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If you are having issues though before you decide to take that awful journey of relocking unrooting to take that ota stop and think of the consequences and the possibility of never being able to obtain s-off...from what im reading the new base aint that exciting anyways
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time for shameless self promotion, albeit very late. i have written a short guide that explains most of the basics for flash root and recovery and i will probably update it with basic troubleshooting scenarios but then again i may not but its very thorough information
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time for shameless self promotion, albeit very late. i have written a short guide that explains most of the basics for flash root and recovery and i will probably update it with basic troubleshooting scenarios but then again i may not but its very thorough information
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U just want all the credit dont you lol j/p
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U just want all the credit dont you lol j/p
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The new radio kicks but. Solves most or all problems with LTE. The dream of s-off for hboot 1.15 is a fantasy. Even the developer for Meanrom decided it wasn't worth waiting for an s-off that will probably never come and took the latest ota to bring his new phone up to date with the complete firmware package. Mikey was s-off and completely bricked his phone by accidentally putting the old firmware zip on his sdcard and flashed it. His replacement phone came with 1.12 and instead of going with s-off he decided to take the ota and keep it s-on. That way, he will have to flash just like the 1000 other users that use his rom. Yes, I am happy I am s-off, but if you aren't, you might as well get the full use of your phone and take the ota, unlock your phone again, and install MeanRom.
Those people that chime in and say the latest ota isn't worth it sure haven't tried it. This phone is so smooth now it is indescribable. The radios alone are worth it, but HTC did a great job with this update. Sense 4.1 and Android 4.04 are a grat combination.
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Are you still s-off with all the latest firmware and base Rom?
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Hi i git my new insurance phone and it came with hb 1.58 s on . And i am wondering what mods can i have? I am on stock rom or which rom do you recomend me? I tried mean rom but 4g,bt, and wifi where broken .
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Efrencalvario said:
Hi i git my new insurance phone and it came with hb 1.58 s on . And i am wondering what mods can i have? I am on stock rom or which rom do you recomend me? I tried mean rom but 4g,bt, and wifi where broken .
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I have a guide here that will help you get S-OFF, which will make your flashing of ROM's and kernels a lot easier. When wifi and other radio based functions are broken, it's usually because of a bad boot partition (kernel) flash, something that is common with S-ON.
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