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For those who have the 3vo, do u notice an improvement in the wimax radio vs the OG evo?
NONE!!! Actually I am seeing a minor performance drop, cant top over 4MBS vs the EVO 4G at 5MBS.. whats even more weird is that when I test a Clear 4G Modem (same Service as sprint) next to the phone I get 6-7MBS so I am wondering if there might be some WIMAX limitaions placed on the EVOs...
CINR/RSSI is the same for all 3 units.
My 3vo (I still have hesitations in calling it that, but I digress.) can get 4G about 2 inches farther away from my office window (I mean literally 2 inches). I've tested 4G in my office many times and have marked the exact spot that 4G kicks in, so I know. Yes, I am a geek...
Yeah I've noticed a slight drop also.
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My 4G doubled from the Evo to the 3D. May have been a coincidence with a upgrade in equipment but it it much better now.
There is definitely a drop in performance comparing to the og evo. I was with a friend outside and her og evo was at full strength and my 3d evo was at one bar. When we tried pulling up the same websites, hers was noticeably faster loading.
A little bit.
This thing will be smoking fast as soon as i get cyanogen on it.
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Hi, I founfd this on the Dev Forum. Read post 1 and 2 it really works... I did it and now in my room I have great signal.
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One major perk I've noticed this phone vs the original EVO -- I have noticed an incredible improvement in the 4G radio penetrating buildings.
I work on a large corporate campus that was build back pre-WWII. The buildings all have thick concrete walls, and I was *NEVER* able to get a sliver of a connection on 4G with the original EVO. 3G was spotty.
On the EVO 3D, I'm experiencing an instant connection to 4G. Speeds are very respectable, ~9000kbps down/1500kbps up. Is it possible they recently implemented tower upgrades? Maybe. I'm thinking it is the phone though. Anybody else notice 4G range and penetration improvements?
Did u apply the ota? I haven't yet and my signal is worse with both 3g and 4G but I'm waiting to do the ota until the problems are fixed
Yeah I applied the OTA. Did not test it prior to the update.
I'm hoping there was a radio update in that cuz I Might have a bad 3vo
I think it is much better, too. I got nothing with my 4G yesterday but in the same location is got a good signal and great speeds and this is in a hospital, too. Yes I applied the OTA.
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The 4G signal is definitely better than the Evo 4G. I was able to pull a Fair signal with the 3D vs Poor to no signal in my house on the Evo 4G. I did not take the OTA.
I think i have a bad 3vo...even after the update my signal is consistently worse than my EVO 4G on both 3g and 4G
odd. i did not apply the ota, and do not have nearly as good of signal as the evo had. i'm now considering the ota..
Ok I found something that concerns me. I had my phone sitting in a chair and it had a signal of -81dbm and when I picked it up it changed to -93dbm
That's normal...
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My EVO 4G held -86dbm constantly when I held it in this spot of my house
The 3D has WAYYY better radio performance and speeds vs the OG Evo.
jbermi said:
I think it is much better, too. I got nothing with my 4G yesterday but in the same location is got a good signal and great speeds and this is in a hospital, too. Yes I applied the OTA.
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I used to get ~5mb down / 1up on the evo..
the evo 3d gets 8mb down / 1.4up (from my house)
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Ok I found something that concerns me. I had my phone sitting in a chair and it had a signal of -81dbm and when I picked it up it changed to -93dbm
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your body works like an antenna
Great news guys, I was disappointed when I heard it had the same 4g chip as the evo, but i guess htc did some antenna work.
mmoser7 said:
One major perk I've noticed this phone vs the original EVO -- I have noticed an incredible improvement in the 4G radio penetrating buildings.
I work on a large corporate campus that was build back pre-WWII. The buildings all have thick concrete walls, and I was *NEVER* able to get a sliver of a connection on 4G with the original EVO. 3G was spotty.
On the EVO 3D, I'm experiencing an instant connection to 4G. Speeds are very respectable, ~9000kbps down/1500kbps up. Is it possible they recently implemented tower upgrades? Maybe. I'm thinking it is the phone though. Anybody else notice 4G range and penetration improvements?
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The radio inside the phone has nothing to do with how well the WiMax signal penetrates buildings, walls, etc. HTC used the same WiMax chip as the original Evo. They might have placed it in a better location in the phone or have updated the radio firmware so it might be able to find and hold on to a weaker signal, but that's it.
I guess if 3G speeds somehow slightly improved after TeamWin got WiMax working for AOSP (separate radio), than anything's possible.
Anyone else have any 4g speeds or signal/performance comments? I know 4g here in chicago really sucks with my OG evo, 3mbps down is usually about it
I have seen in reviews about reception on the 3d. Can anyone with one reply with how the reception really is in day to day use
Thanks
Epic-ly wanting a new phone
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I have seen in reviews about reception on the 3d. Can anyone with one reply with how the reception really is in day to day use
Thanks
Epic-ly wanting a new phone
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My data speeds are better and Call quality is good.
DDiaz007 said:
My data speeds are better and Call quality is good.
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+1 same experience
On my EVO 4G in my condo it always showed 5-6 bars With the 3d its currently showing 3-4 bars. Haven't noticed any difference in call quality though, and I talked to a few folks the other night that said it sounded clearer then my old phone.
howie411 said:
On my EVO 4G in my condo it always showed 5-6 bars With the 3d its currently showing 3-4 bars. Haven't noticed any difference in call quality though, and I talked to a few folks the other night that said it sounded clearer then my old phone.
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I'm noticing less bars as well
Well, I live in Alaska and there isn't a single Sprint store in the state... Even though they have coverage here, you can't even order a device here (normally, but I'm awesome and I can lol).
My EVO usually got 1-2 bars, around my house/work areas, more if I went into a downtown area with more Verizon coverage. My 3D gets 3-4 bars now in my house, and my bandwith test is increased by about 20% from the tests I've done so far.
TL;DR version:
I get much better signal, and better up/down speeds where I live.
This guy tested his e3d vs his e4g side by side. Seems like the e3d had a slight edge.
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/360306-signal-strength-analysis-evo-3d-evo-4g.html
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This guy tested his e3d vs his e4g side by side. Seems like the e3d had a slight edge.
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-3d/360306-signal-strength-analysis-evo-3d-evo-4g.html
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Can't dispute hard facts... thanks for the link. I think it was engadget that said signal was weak, but I am too lazy to search it out.
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Can't dispute hard facts... thanks for the link. I think it was engadget that said signal was weak, but I am too lazy to search it out.
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Engadget also assumed that with the two phones being made by HTC and on Sprint that the bars corresponded to the actual same strength.
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Engadget also assumed that with the two phones being made by HTC and on Sprint that the bars corresponded to the actual same strength.
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My thoughts exactly.
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Its a world better than the NS4G
3g is horrible even after applying the fix listed in another thread.
Phone signal strength consistently is 1/2 that of my EVO....now, I haven't lost any calls BUT I am also not able to make calls in areas which had less than stellar signals where my wifes EVO will still make the call with no issue and show 2 bars while the 3D shows absolutely none.
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3g is horrible even after applying the fix listed in another thread.
Phone signal strength consistently is 1/2 that of my EVO....now, I haven't lost any calls BUT I am also not able to make calls in areas which had less than stellar signals where my wifes EVO will still make the call with no issue and show 2 bars while the 3D shows absolutely none.
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Haven't gotten the 3d yet, but I have seen this problem with my Evo 4g. Try to update your PRL, then update your Profile (In that order). See if that helps.
I'm getting almost the same bars as in my 4G or maybe 1 bar less, but I definitely think that call quality and data speeds (at least for me) are way better than my 4G. And also another thing I noticed is that I get better WiFi reception, now I get full bars in my house in places that my 4G use to get 1 to no bars!
Yeah yeah, its a shooter,we call it 3VO and I'm not afraid to use it...
I live in a fringe area where I always got either zero or 1 bar with the Evo 4G, but even with zero bars I could always hold a call, probably because these phones freely roam on Verizon towers too. Now with the 3D, I have to be honest: I think my Evo 4G was slightly better with reception just because I notice the 3D switching back and forth between Sprint and Verizon towers more often (roaming notification goes off more). If I had to quantify it, I'd say my old Evo 4G got maybe 10% to 15% better signal. But I expect that to improve via updates so I'm not too worried about it, especially since, well... it still works.
For the few who report "horrible" reception: do you keep your roaming enabled? You should: roaming within the U.S. only means you'll roam on Verizon towers which means we get the best of both worlds. The only place we can "roam" in the U.S. is Verizon towers and we roam them for free (both voice and 3G data). So leave roaming on!
Mike
Is it better in this area than the Sensation, I haven't heard any reports of death grip for it?
I use my Evo's at the fringe area of sprint's network. Yesterday I had the 3D and the 4G ( within a couple of min of each other) try to sync friend stream. The original Evo 4G did it with no problem. I ended up having to allow data roaming on the 3D so it could access the "ether".
BTW the wife's evo shift had 3G so wtf 3D ?
I'm wondering it this is a singular experience or the radio needs a tuning upgrade? Probably another point for having an unlocked boot loader. Hey if sprint pays the roaming ....
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I use my Evo's at the fringe area of sprint's network. Yesterday I had the 3D and the 4G ( within a couple of min of each other) try to sync friend stream. The original Evo 4G did it with no problem. I ended up having to allow data roaming on the 3D so it could access the "ether".
BTW the wife's evo shift had 3G so wtf 3D ?
I'm wondering it this is a singular experience or the radio needs a tuning upgrade? Probably another point for having an unlocked boot loader. Hey if sprint pays the roaming ....
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I'm noticing reduced 2G and 3G reception too...judging by the Sense "bars" at home I'm in a kinda fringe area....and on the 4G I would get 3...sometimes 4, more often 2 bars. On the 3D I get 0 to 2 bars, most often 1.
Though perhaps they changed those bars to reflect 3G instead of 2G....I know the 2G coverage around here better than 3G by a small bit. As far as usability/performance I have noticed no difference....except at work in the bathroom, noticeably lower speeds/threshold for roaming...potential deal breaker
But I imagine a radio update would be able to address this, perhaps it already has been...I'm not applying any OTA for now though.
But, yeah, slightly weaker 3G performance....but I can live with it.
It gets me thinking though, if we can't get this thing unlocked in the 30-day window and I take it back and wait for the SGS2, which will likely have the usual lackluster Samsung radios....will that be roughly the same as this? Cuz i can live with that, or will it be worse? Cuz I couldn't deal with reception less than this...not even by a hair, I'm already on cusp.....but, if it is the same or better then I have no concerns....
I've been trying to get this problem noticed by the community here but i think there may have been a bad batch of phones. I'll try to get mine replaced
Edit: download open signal on both devices and compare the dbm level on both phones
I live less than 10 miles from the Sprint headquarters and can't get 4G connection in my neighborhood. I certainly didn't expect this to be what all the hype was about.
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I use my Evo's at the fringe area of sprint's network. Yesterday I had the 3D and the 4G ( within a couple of min of each other) try to sync friend stream. The original Evo 4G did it with no problem. I ended up having to allow data roaming on the 3D so it could access the "ether".
BTW the wife's evo shift had 3G so wtf 3D ?
I'm wondering it this is a singular experience or the radio needs a tuning upgrade? Probably another point for having an unlocked boot loader. Hey if sprint pays the roaming ....
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I used to need an Airave, then I moved. I had full bars in my home on my EVO 4G and my wife did also on her Palm Pre. I called Sprint and told them I no longer needed the Access Point and to send a return kit. I picked the EVO 3D up two days later, and I now need to keep the Airave. My wife still enjoys full bars on the EVO I gave her, but I get 1 bar consistently, at home.
I also used to get 5 bars in my office with my EVO, I get 2 if I'm lucky with the 3D. Between the ****ty reception and the lag, its probably going back before the 30 days are up. I love the hell out of the phone otherwise, but it lags too much. Poor reception, though, thats a deal breaker for me.
I have both phones and I can tell you I get much better reception with the 3D than I do with the evo. On 4G I get 1 bar with the evo and 2 bars with the 3D. Im also noticing that on the 3D 4G stays on all the time on my evo it would switch drop the 4G connection all the time and I had to disable/enable 4G in order for it to connect again.
I've been noticing a LOT of roaming happening on my 3d lately, in comparison to my OG evo, it's a lot worse. Otherwise, I have an airrave at home, I wanna get something like that for work. I guess you have to make a tradeoff somewhere, amazing battery life with ****ty reception, or decent reception with horrible battery life. I take the 1st one.
Plus I'm finally finding 4g in my area
Noticing a lot of roaming on my 3D as well. Never saw it on my Evo.
I may be, at a cross roads in some twenty days.
At least Sprint will be able to verify my issue, since roaming is probably logged.
I've searched the forums for this, but don't see an exact match. Sorry if I missed a duplicate thread, and a link to it would suffice as an answer.
I am nearing the end of my 2 year contract for my Sprint Evo 4G. I think they are referred to as OG Evo's here for some reason? OG = Original? Anyway, it's been a GREAT phone. Wife got one at the same time. I rooted both of them, installed Sprint Lovers Rom and have basically done nothing else since except refuse updates and install/uninstall apps. I rooted it to be able to do wifi tether, which I depend on at times.
The only real reason I'm thinking of getting the 4G LTE version is the camera. The camera on the Evo 4G just flat sucks. My only complaint on the phone, but a big one as I am outdoors a lot, like to take pictures a lot, and would like to get away from carrying a point and shoot in addition to my phone. I've played with settings until I'm blue in the face, and get the occasional decent picture, but it's just not good. I want a very good camera and it seems this phone has one, by all official reviews I've seen on it.
But I also read on the 4G LTE forums a lot of reports of more dropped calls, connectivity and slow data issues compared to other phones like the Evo 3D. Where I live, all we have is 3G. I've done some speednet tests on it and get in the area of 1.25mb down, .30mb up currently. That works for what I need. We will likely not see LTE anytime soon, if ever, here at the house (in the Ozark Mts of Arkansas).
Am I likely to see performance impacts if I go to the 4G LTE? If so, has anyone done comparisons to see how much is lost? I really, really, really want a better camera, but not if it's going to make calls and/or tethering worse.
I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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No LTE in my area as well but between wifi and decent 3g I'm enjoying the faster speed of the LTE
jesuspgt said:
I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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That's spot on for my wife and I who both switched from the OG to the LTE, and the LTE is only going to spread
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It just so happens that I have both my OG Evo and new LTE right here in front of me.
In general, I have noticed the reception of the LTEvo is marginally worse (0 to 5 dB worse) which is not significant and will probably not be noticable.
Wifi and GPS appear equally superb. No complains at all.
The camera is definitely better overall but that should be a given. Daylight pictures are excellent but indoor lowlight picture are very subject to motion blur. It is fairly difficult to get a picture to come out perfectly crisp with low light. Installing a ROM with an HD Camera mod definitely helps too. I've attached several pictures. A couple to demonstrate the challenges of low lighting and a couple with good outdoor lighting. Could I have taken a better low light picture? Sure I can and I definitely retook the pictures that turned out bad but that's an extra shot and extra time wasted.
Good luck!
I had an OG Evo myself, and it was a smooth transition from it to the LTEVO. I did have connectivity issues and WiFi issues, but that was addressed by the latest OTA, which was baked into several ROMs with r00t access.
The big delta for me between the OG Evo and LTEVO, was the hardware platform with better CPU, RAM and sdcard specs. On the software side, it came preloaded with ICS and JB is on the way, so there's no comparison.
In the camera department, yes, I hated the OG Evo camera, even at the 8 MP benchmark. However, even stock, the LTEVO camera destroys the OG Evo in the camera department and there are mods available here to enhance it, which I run personally on my daily driver handset.
Last but not least, the OG Evo necessitated carrying extra charged batteries with you, and chargers themselves, since the OG Evo was an energy hog. The LTEVO is sooooo much better in this department, and I've had runs that lasted well over 24 hours without a charge.
Convinced yet?
HTH!
~ Mike
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i came from the og evo to the LTE, both rooted with s-off. and my data seems faster on the LTE. as far as dropped calls i can probably count on one hand how many times that happened between both phones.
I suspect you'll be very interested in a thread I created. Took a pic with the Evo 4G, and then one with the LTE.
Pics in the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672864
It's pretty obvious that the LTE has a MUCH better camera.