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I noticed the reception of the evo 3d is not that good. I can barely ride my bicycle with internet radio playing. Also bluetooth range is less then my motorola droid when connecting to the same devices. Did HTC make a good phone with poor reception capability, or is it sprint that has bad coverage?
I am considering trying a Nexus S since I'm still within the first 30 days of service. Does that phone have better reception?
Thank for your feedback
I would ask in the Nexus S forums...
My EVO 3D gets very poor signal and reception. Much worse than my regular EVO 4G. I noticed this right away as soon as I activated it and wasnt able to get as good of signal in good coverage areas like I could with previous EVO 4G. Its a combination of poor radio performance as well as poor Sprint service. The EVO 3D is definetely not a good "phone" and that's the most important thing to me.
I had to get rid of my Samsung Galaxy S due to poor reception. I then switched to the Optimus P500 and it was great for reception. I recently got the EVO3D and have had no complaints so far on Rogers in Canada, even in the remote Milton areas where it was questionable with the Galaxy.
I used to have original EVO and went to Epic Touch (Sammy SGII) and was really disappointed with the Samsung signal quality compared to EVO. Especially when in a weak signal, EVO 3G data would work fine but SGII sometimes would not work at all if signal is weak in same spot.
Have tested it many times. EVO was OK with 3G data if barely a signal, SGII would be hit and miss in same spot.
For those who switched from Epic Touch, how does new EVO perform with weak 3G signal? I'd think with the Qualcomm chipset, EVO should do much better than ET/SGII.
Samsungs are notorious for horrible radios.
They can suffer from something called LOS. Loss of Service. Where you basically lose all connection altogether until you reboot.
In fact my sisters galaxy s2 isn't even 3 months old and its been to samsung twice.
and is currently sitting with them waiting on backordered parts.
You won't (well probably won't) experience that issue with any other device maker.
As far as i know it exists on all the current samsungs though, gs2 and nexus alike. probably the gs3 as well.
xenokc said:
I used to have original EVO and went to Epic Touch (Sammy SGII) and was really disappointed with the Samsung signal quality compared to EVO. Especially when in a weak signal, EVO 3G data would work fine but SGII sometimes would not work at all if signal is weak in same spot.
Have tested it many times. EVO was OK with 3G data if barely a signal, SGII would be hit and miss in same spot.
For those who switched from Epic Touch, how does new EVO perform with weak 3G signal? I'd think with the Qualcomm chipset, EVO should do much better than ET/SGII.
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Considering Qualcomm invented EVDO (Sprint's 3G) and the chipset with integrated EVDO modem, it would surprise me if the signal is weaker.
That said, the device is thinner -- flimsier antenna?
Some reviewers, however, are quick to point out that 3G strength is increased compared to the 3D, if that means anything to you:
I've already mentioned that connectivity on the EVO 4G LTE is awesome in general; it usually picks up a stronger signal than my EVO 3D on both the cellular network or any surrounding WiFi networks. Additionally, mobile data speeds are consistently 300-500kbps faster on the EVO 4G LTE than on the EVO 3D, even when the devices are side-by-side.
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curiousGeorge said:
Considering Qualcomm invented EVDO (Sprint's 3G) and the chipset with integrated EVDO modem, it would surprise me if the signal is weaker.
That said, the device is thinner -- flimsier antenna?
Some reviewers, however, are quick to point out that 3G strength is increased compared to the 3D, if that means anything to you:
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Signal should not be as good as the EVO 3D...S4GRU article on the FCC doc released for the device explained it...its not a big difference nor something you will notice much i think, but its there according to the FCC testing done...
I've searched the forums for this, but don't see an exact match. Sorry if I missed a duplicate thread, and a link to it would suffice as an answer.
I am nearing the end of my 2 year contract for my Sprint Evo 4G. I think they are referred to as OG Evo's here for some reason? OG = Original? Anyway, it's been a GREAT phone. Wife got one at the same time. I rooted both of them, installed Sprint Lovers Rom and have basically done nothing else since except refuse updates and install/uninstall apps. I rooted it to be able to do wifi tether, which I depend on at times.
The only real reason I'm thinking of getting the 4G LTE version is the camera. The camera on the Evo 4G just flat sucks. My only complaint on the phone, but a big one as I am outdoors a lot, like to take pictures a lot, and would like to get away from carrying a point and shoot in addition to my phone. I've played with settings until I'm blue in the face, and get the occasional decent picture, but it's just not good. I want a very good camera and it seems this phone has one, by all official reviews I've seen on it.
But I also read on the 4G LTE forums a lot of reports of more dropped calls, connectivity and slow data issues compared to other phones like the Evo 3D. Where I live, all we have is 3G. I've done some speednet tests on it and get in the area of 1.25mb down, .30mb up currently. That works for what I need. We will likely not see LTE anytime soon, if ever, here at the house (in the Ozark Mts of Arkansas).
Am I likely to see performance impacts if I go to the 4G LTE? If so, has anyone done comparisons to see how much is lost? I really, really, really want a better camera, but not if it's going to make calls and/or tethering worse.
I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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No LTE in my area as well but between wifi and decent 3g I'm enjoying the faster speed of the LTE
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I went from an original Evo to the LTE and I have not noticed any change in connectivity or call signal quality. I do have both wimax and LTE in my area and my LTE speeds are roughly double what I was getting with wimax. My 3G speeds are identical between the two devices. The camera is indeed awesome; there is virtually no shutter lag which is a miracle for a cameraphone.
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That's spot on for my wife and I who both switched from the OG to the LTE, and the LTE is only going to spread
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It just so happens that I have both my OG Evo and new LTE right here in front of me.
In general, I have noticed the reception of the LTEvo is marginally worse (0 to 5 dB worse) which is not significant and will probably not be noticable.
Wifi and GPS appear equally superb. No complains at all.
The camera is definitely better overall but that should be a given. Daylight pictures are excellent but indoor lowlight picture are very subject to motion blur. It is fairly difficult to get a picture to come out perfectly crisp with low light. Installing a ROM with an HD Camera mod definitely helps too. I've attached several pictures. A couple to demonstrate the challenges of low lighting and a couple with good outdoor lighting. Could I have taken a better low light picture? Sure I can and I definitely retook the pictures that turned out bad but that's an extra shot and extra time wasted.
Good luck!
I had an OG Evo myself, and it was a smooth transition from it to the LTEVO. I did have connectivity issues and WiFi issues, but that was addressed by the latest OTA, which was baked into several ROMs with r00t access.
The big delta for me between the OG Evo and LTEVO, was the hardware platform with better CPU, RAM and sdcard specs. On the software side, it came preloaded with ICS and JB is on the way, so there's no comparison.
In the camera department, yes, I hated the OG Evo camera, even at the 8 MP benchmark. However, even stock, the LTEVO camera destroys the OG Evo in the camera department and there are mods available here to enhance it, which I run personally on my daily driver handset.
Last but not least, the OG Evo necessitated carrying extra charged batteries with you, and chargers themselves, since the OG Evo was an energy hog. The LTEVO is sooooo much better in this department, and I've had runs that lasted well over 24 hours without a charge.
Convinced yet?
HTH!
~ Mike
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i came from the og evo to the LTE, both rooted with s-off. and my data seems faster on the LTE. as far as dropped calls i can probably count on one hand how many times that happened between both phones.
I suspect you'll be very interested in a thread I created. Took a pic with the Evo 4G, and then one with the LTE.
Pics in the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672864
It's pretty obvious that the LTE has a MUCH better camera.
Droid Life came out with a full review today. The battery life is quite good according to them (average life of 21 hours), but surprisingly he reported some 4G drop issues and said the camera wasn't that great. I'm hoping the signal was just a fluke, but it seems to be since other big reviewers have said it's top notch.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/19/htc-droid-dna-review/
I saw it, and though meh on the 4G drop. It could have easily been in his area. Of all the reviews I've seen he was the only one to have that issue. I also thought the photo samples he had were really not as bad as he described them to be either.
As much as I want to jump on this phone, the only issue I seem to have now is storage space. It's this or the GN2. I still don't know?
8192 on Quads! Thanks sick!
Damn it when will Wednesday get here??!??!!!?!?!!
I actually experience the 3g/4g drop often on my galaxy nexus and I live in the bay area. Definitely sucks my battery to oblivion. Since HTC is said to make better radios I hope the drops would be less frequent.
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I actually experience the 3g/4g drop often on my galaxy nexus and I live in the bay area. Definitely sucks my battery to oblivion. Since HTC is said to make better radios I hope the drops would be less frequent.
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I wouldn't worry about it, when I got the GNex I my thunderbolt up and running for a couple days and the radios are noticeably stronger and more stable on the Thunderbolt. Side by side I'd get solid 4g on the bolt where the GNex was spotty at best. My house isn't the in the strongest 4g area, but the Tbolt wouldn't drop off the signal no matter where in my home I was. The GNex I get 4g outside or by windows and that's it, with 3g speeds. The tbolt would pull a solid 12-15up 3-5down sitting right next to it.
Not to mention the GNex isn't exactly known for its radios.
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Droid Life came out with a full review today. The battery life is quite good according to them (average life of 21 hours), but surprisingly he reported some 4G drop issues and said the camera wasn't that great. I'm hoping the signal was just a fluke, but it seems to be since other big reviewers have said it's top notch.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/19/htc-droid-dna-review/
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The review doesn't talk about any drops in the traditional sense, but rather that the phone was "dropping back" to 3G in weak 4G areas:
I constantly found the device dropping back to 3G, even when other devices were maintaining a 4G connection, albeit a poor one at that.
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This is something that is done on purpose in order to maintain a more reliable connection without as many actual drops when switching between 3G and 4G. With my Rezound, Galaxy Nexus, and RAZR MAXX, when I would be out on the edge of a 4G area, the phone would jump back and forth between 3G and 4G, resulting in actual drops in service and a drain on the battery. My S3 does what the DNA does - opts to stick with 3G in weak 4G areas. The result is a far more stable connection with less drops in service and much less battery drain.
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The review doesn't talk about any drops in the traditional sense, but rather that the phone was "dropping back" to 3G in weak 4G areas
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Only dropping down from 4G. He said that you can't disable 4G though, but I'm guessing there will be a non-stock way of doing it.
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I also thought the photo samples he had were really not as bad as he described them to be either.
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I thought the pictures looked great, but I'm also comparing them to my 2.5 year old Incredible so pretty much any high end phone, besides maybe Motorolas, will look great to me lol
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Only dropping down from 4G. He said that you can't disable 4G though, but I'm guessing there will be a non-stock way of doing it.
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man i really hope there will be a way you can disable 4G whenever you want. that'd be so useful if i needed to conserve battery and i'm in a spotty 4G area
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Only dropping down from 4G. He said that you can't disable 4G though, but I'm guessing there will be a non-stock way of doing it.
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Pretty much every LTE phone released on Verizon over the past several months hasn't had the option to disable LTE in the stock settings. Even some phones that used to have the option have had it removed in updates (such as the RAZR and RAZR MAXX). But with all of these phones, there have been ways of putting the phone into 3G only mode without root via an app or through settings that can be accessed through the phone's dialer.
Am thinking about the evo 4g lte because I've read excellent reviews about the call quality. I already know I won't be getting lte in my area for a long time. Are the 3g speeds actually worse on this model as compared with other Sprint models ? (some reviews have claimed this)
My 3g is slow enough as it is on my HTC Touch (can live with it though), but won't be able to accept anything slower.
i have kno problems with this phone.. its perfect for me im just bored with it... i need a new phone every 6 months i think!!! lol..
I'm hoping the following review is incorrect:
The ugly:
This is where the phone starts to fall apart for me. The network capabilities are awful. They are a clear downgrade from my Evo 4g. I live in Kansas City, and my old Evo 4g had both excellent 3g coverage, and excellent WiMax coverage. Ping times were the only problem I had with WiMax (typically in the 200-300 range), but I typically got 3-7Mbps down and ~1Mbps up with very reliable coverage, especially in my home. Outside of WiMax range, I reliably got 3g coverage that pulled ~1-2Mbps down and up. This is what I would expect, given that I am in Sprint's home market.
I upgraded to the Evo 4g LTE after hearing that LTE was officially "live" in Kansas City. Unfortunately the news that I missed was that by "live", they really mean "about 30% live". There is little to no actual LTE coverage in the city. At my apartment, where WiMax was previously very strong, I can only connect to LTE rarely, and when I do the signal is so weak that my connection times out regularly. Watching antenna strength, the LTE connection sits around -115 to -120dBm (in non-technical terms, that is just a hair above zero bars). I actually disabled the LTE antenna on my phone because it is disruptive FAR more often than it is useful.
"So what", you might say. "Just use 3g". I would agree with you. 3g should be able to get me by in the next few months while Sprint continues their LTE rollout, hopefully with an antenna near my home. Unfortunately the phone's 3g antenna is also highly problematic. 3g signal pickup is weaker than my old Evo 4g, and speeds are considerably worse than my previous phone. Pings usually sit around 200, which is acceptable, but I almost never get above 0.5Mbps down, or up. Additionally (and even more importantly), the phone has a habit of dropping the 3g signal. I tether often, and when I do I tend to lose 3g every few minutes. This is in close proximity to a 3g tower, and with a strong signal (4-5 bars, in the -70 to -80dBm range). The phone will just inexplicably lose 3g connectivity. Google around a bit and find out: this is a known problem that many people are dealing with, and HTC/Sprint have acknowledged the issue and are trying to rectify it. Problem is, it isn't fixed. I truly hope that in the near future an OTA update will fix the problems... after all, I'm basically stuck with this phone for the next 23 months. The network issues are bad enough that I really do miss my old Evo 4g, and I'm very tempted to reactivate it.
Conclusion: at the end of the day, the Evo 4g LTE is a phone, and as such I think the network issues are a pretty big deal. If you are on WiFi constantly, then they won't be an issue for you, but if you're dependent upon Sprint's network in any way, be very careful... this phone has some major baggage.
Update 9/25/2012: A couple OTA updates later, and it is still in pretty bad shape. I am very used to 500ms+ ping now, and 0.1Mbps download/upload speeds. 4g coverage is still nonexistant. According to xda and s4gru, this problem is SPECIFIC TO THE EVO 4g LTE. As in an iPhone 5 and SGIII will both connect just fine to 4g, but an Evo in the same room will not.
Try this neat trick: Go to craigslist and search for Evo 4g LTE. See how many nearly new Evos are being sold for less than half the price of a new one? That speaks more volumes than my review does
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These post really make me scratch my head...In Memphis LTE is only a month old and only in the northern parts of the city...constant 15mbs+ and elsewhere 4g isnt on yet 3G is maxed out....I never have any problems maintaining a over decent connection on 3G.....it's just odd how much I hear how crappy the ELTE is.....Is it really a bad phone and I'm just in a city where Sprint has it act together or are some of you vice-versa??
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These post really make me scratch my head...In Memphis LTE is only a month old and only in the northern parts of the city...constant 15mbs+ and elsewhere 4g isnt on yet 3G is maxed out....I never have any problems maintaining a over decent connection on 3G.....it's just odd how much I hear how crappy the ELTE is.....Is it really a bad phone and I'm just in a city where Sprint has it act together or are some of you vice-versa??
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I sure would like to know before I upgrade to this device.
TravisBean said:
Am thinking about the evo 4g lte because I've read excellent reviews about the call quality. I already know I won't be getting lte in my area for a long time. Are the 3g speeds actually worse on this model as compared with other Sprint models ? (some reviews have claimed this)
My 3g is slow enough as it is on my HTC Touch (can live with it though), but won't be able to accept anything slower.
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My 3g has been much better than my old HTC Hero and better than my Dad's og Evo(not to mention my mom's Samsung Nexus S, My brothers' Samsung, Motorola, and my sister's iCrap 4s).
As long as you stick to stock based roms, you'll be fine. HTC has some great tweaks that cm10 and aosp roms don't have that seem to boost bandwidth and 3g speeds.
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Test it out. Set a timer for 13 days just to be sure.. Thats why carriers give you the 14 day trial period to make sure your happy before being stuck 2 more years with them.
I for one am happy with my EVO LTE. I also have a GS3 and from time to time go back and forth.
I had a chance to spend about 3 minutes with this device today at the Sprint store. Love at first sight. I can't put into words how elegantly this phone felt in my hand.
Didn't have time to check out the 3g connectivity, but call quality did seem above average for a Sprint phone.
Can you download a larger format dial pad for this phone (that works properly) ?
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I'm in Boston mass 4g is 27-34 mgb and 3g is about 3-5 on my lte no issues
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I'm in Boston mass 4g is 27-34 mgb and 3g is about 3-5 on my lte no issues
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Are you saying you're getting 3-5 Mbps download speeds while connected to 3G?
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