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I've search around online about this but I don't know if the information is out dated.
I've looked at AlphaRev and "Revolutionary" both indicate it's not supported at this time.
I've got ROOT & a custom ROM, but S-OFF would make things so much easier.
Don't worry about s-off hboot 1.01 can't be done unless you use xtclip.
Go and look at the threads about hboot 1.02 that's the free way to unlock bootloader, this is almost the same as s-off.
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta 2.4 :-D
I think that HTC now support this with an updated boot loader.
I checked: www htcdev com / bootloader
and the HTC Legend is now listed.
Unfortunately I'll need to Unroot first.
Has anyone tried this successfully?
No you do not need to unroot your phone, look for a post by blay0, tells u exactly what to do.
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta 2.4 :-D
If this is the Quote you are referring to, it makes much more sense now.
BlaY0 said:
And guys, you don't need to complicate that much with all that flashing back and forth. It works with any custom ROM rooted or not, you just need to make the right approach. You don't even need to remove the battery. The only requirements are account on HTCdev, bootloader RUU and operational adb/fastboot environment. And NO, you will not loose the root.
So here are the steps:
do a nandroid (at least data partition)
download the bootloader RUU from HTCdev and run it
search for rom.zip in your profile directory (it was extracted from RUU after you had run it)
connect the phone to your computer
copy that rom.zip to phone's sdcard renaming it to LEGEIMG.zip (mind the case)
reboot to bootloader from command prompt (adb reboot bootloader)
current bootloader should find the LEGEIMG.zip and ask you to upgrade bootloader
after upgrade is done switch to fastboot (use up/down and power buttons)
reboot bootloader from command prompt (fastboot reboot-bootloader)
at this point you end up in new bootloader which is still locked
follow the instructions on HTCdev from Step 8 to unlock
After that you need to boot into recovery, restore data partition and you're back in the saddle.
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Crap, I stuffed up...
My Nandroid Backup Failed (probably out of space).
now I have to re-configure my phone from scratch...
Yeah that's exactly the post I was talking about :thumbup:
I always find it a good idea to keep a copy of the nandroid on my PC too, the original is located on the SD card under /clockworkmod/backup/"backup name"
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta 2.4 :-D
If anyone finds this thread instead of the original discussion from Feb.
I successfully unlocked my bootloader which allows writing to system from a booted Rom instead of just from clockwork recovery or fastboot / adb.
key items,
you need to compete HTC's procedure excluding step 14(re locking)
if your on a custom Rom, make a android backup
follow BlaY0 instructions as a workaround of HTC's update program.
now i tested with Adaway successfully.
as for my data partition, i might have an old copy backed up but this might be a good excuse to partition my sd card so i can install more apps. I've heard 512MB would be a good size for my 4GB card.
(I have a 8GB card but my legend informs me that it has been ejected when the camera app tried to write a photo. where i had used that card in Nokia phones for years. anyone with a legend knows how physically unpractical that is without the battery being disconnected.)
ranger4740 said:
Don't worry about s-off hboot 1.01 can't be done unless you use xtclip.
Go and look at the threads about hboot 1.02 that's the free way to unlock bootloader, this is almost the same as s-off.
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta 2.4 :-D
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What is the difference between s-off and unlocked bootloader?
Unlocked bootloader gives write access to the system partition which s-on would protect if it was mounted read only.
S-off disables the protection feature including being able to unlock your phone from your service provider ( if it happens to be).
I just needed write access to system to make updates easier (adaway, ad-hoc enabler, etc)
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brb8two said:
Unlocked bootloader gives write access to the system partition which s-on would protect if it was mounted read only.
S-off disables the protection feature including being able to unlock your phone from your service provider ( if it happens to be).
I just needed write access to system to make updates easier (adaway, ad-hoc enabler, etc)
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That's good news then since the reason I wanted S-OFF is so I can install stuff or remove stuff from the ROM I am currently using without manually removing and installing the apps onto a ROM from my PC then install it on the phone.
I'm now using S-ON Unlocked and AdAway didn't crash so it's working for me now.
The sole reason I wanted to root now works.
2 years wait but finally it works, I can now store my alarms, ringtones on the phone and don't have to worry about using USB diskdrive without losing the ringtones since the SD card is in use.
What guide did you use to unlock your bootloader? Was it complicated? And does having a custom rom (CM9 Beta) matter when unlocking it.
Fragda said:
What guide did you use to unlock your bootloader? Was it complicated? And does having a custom rom (CM9 Beta) matter when unlocking it.
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First of all the rom you choose to flash has nothing to do with unlocking bootloader (not sure what you meant there). I've rooted my phone a year ago so the boot locker method wasn't available then but I can tell you the previous method was a lot more tedious and took a few days to figure it out. The boot loader guides are already posted in this forum section so check it asap
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What guide did you use to unlock your bootloader? Was it complicated? And does having a custom rom (CM9 Beta) matter when unlocking it.
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Custom Rom is fine, you just need to read this whole thread ( much shorter than others) for an outline of the procedure.
Check your backup is successful before completing our you may not restore your phone back to the way it was.
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Forgive me, but I've been reading and haven't figured out whether or not downgrading from 1.5 to 1.4 is actually needed or what the benefits are. I'm new to the 3D, but not to android, flashing, or unlocking..I just can't seem to find (I'm sure the info is here somewhere) what the difference and advantages/disadvantages between the two. I'm perfectly comfortable downgrading, so I'm just looking for some input.
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Downgrading gives you the ability to have s-off, meaning you are fully rooted and unlocked, meaning you can flash roms and kernels through recovery without using a workaround. You can also flash radios as well.
As always it will give you the ability to flash custom rom's and kernal's as you stated in your post you find out where to start and I suggest you Google rootevo3dnew and its for people that has hboot 1.50 and he makes it very easy to understand and he even makes utube instruction on how to do it thats what I used and I had unlocked bootloader and flashed a custom Rom in less then 15 minutes and he also shows you how to down grade your hboot aswell here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
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sitlet said:
Downgrading gives you the ability to have s-off, meaning you are fully rooted and unlocked, meaning you can flash roms and kernels through recovery without using a workaround. You can also flash radios as well.
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From what I hear, 4ext (see my sig) works great for people on hboot 1.5 with HTC unlock. Having said that, I downgraded and am glad I did. It got the blood pumping and taught me a lot about rooting.
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well, after attempting to brick my phone no less than 100 times, I gave up on the downgrading. Just unlocked via HTC's method and flashed thru fastboot. Works well enough. Thanks for the input friends!
I recommend buying the 4EXT application. Upgrade to a the latest version with smartflash and you can load new roms without using fastboot and a PC. Best money I have spent on an app.
mulhiny said:
well, after attempting to brick my phone no less than 100 times, I gave up on the downgrading. Just unlocked via HTC's method and flashed thru fastboot. Works well enough. Thanks for the input friends!
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The bricking is the hardest part. Everyones phone is a lol different. Mine was a three second pull for instance. But having s-off is much better. I was unlocked but I was one of the first ones to downgrade . Since then it has been greatly streamlined. Don't give up
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mulhiny said:
well, after attempting to brick my phone no less than 100 times, I gave up on the downgrading. Just unlocked via HTC's method and flashed thru fastboot. Works well enough. Thanks for the input friends!
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I must have been lucky with that. Mine bricked second attempt (and first attempt I had forgotten to take out the battery, derp). I used a second hand on my clock to time exactly five seconds and it worked. But, as I (and others) have said, 4ext Recovery allows you to flash the ROM and kernel together, so S-Off is not as necessary. Unless of course, you want to flash an ICS ROM...
Just keep your Hboot 1.5. It's not that big of a deal to me because I am used to using the 'workarounds'.
Evo 3d FTW
mpgrimm2 said:
Some additional info for u I had posted for someone else.
1) HTCdev.com's "Bootloader Unlock"(I have a specific Hboot 1.50 Guide posted here & at sdx):
Basically this leaves the bootloader's (Hboot 1.50) security flag on (S-On) but "unlocks the bootloader" (kinda like the phones Bios) so that you can manually flash everything except for Radios (Baseband) and Boot Logo's (Splash Screen). Kernels & roms can be flashed once a custom recovery is installed, but there are "extra" steps involved because the /boot partition (kernel/zImage) can only be set to write access from the Android OS or by initiating custom recovery from a pc's "Fastboot Command Prompt". There are workarounds, some work better than others. To flash Radio updates, you have to relock the bootloader and flash an OEM Full Stock Ruu (Rom Update Utility), kinda like Samsung's Sw Updater for the Transform. You also have to register your device with HTC and it "may void your warranty".
2) Downgrade Bootloader from Hboot 1.50 to 1.40:
This is a recent development by Unknownforce in the last few weeks. Basically involves corrupting the flashing process of the RUU by removing power in the middle of the flash and "bricking it" (more like mostly bricked). It forces the phone into a special eMMC Download mode that can only be fixed by pushing the older bootloader to the phone from a Linux pc. Good thing is that Closeone has a Linux LiveCD.iso that you copy to a USB Drive or CD and temporarily boot to a custom Linux Interface specifically set up for flashing the bootloader.
Once that's done, you rerun an earlier RUU (compatible with Hboot 1.40) to get the phone working fully, then root via "Revolutionary's site" (another fastboot/adb rooting tool) to get S-Off (Full root), load a recovery, update the radio, then you can flash roms & kernels like normal
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Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
from scratch
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
haha Yeah roms are pretty addictive! So my background in rooting is limited to the Thunderbolt, which is my first smartphone. I used the Revolutionary IO method, which got me S-Off and root. But after reading through the Juopunutbear (Unlimited IO), I am slightly confused. I definitely did not do the wiring procedures involving the antennae contacts to get S-Off with the thunderbolt. I did more research and it sounds like the S-Off in thunderbolt is a "fake" S-off from a patched hboot?
That also leads to my next questions... up until now, I thought the following:
1. hboot = bootloader, which is the "BIOS" of the phone
2. In order to be rooted, S-off must happen first (this I guess is not true from your steps)
3. Recovery = part of hboot (from what I've read so far, this is incorrect too)
Also, would you elaborate on step #4? I thought unlocked is what I want, but instead I really want to have S-off and locked bootloader?
Thanks!
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
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yep
yo!
hboot is bootloader alright: some folks like a modified hboot which lets you do more than stock hboot.
personally I keep the stock ICS hboot 2.25.
nope, you dont have to be s-0ff to be rooted, only unlocked.
You can do most all modifications with unlock EXCEPT go back to previous hboot & rom.
Recovery is separate from hboot. Recovery is a menu choice in hboot.
A new recovery can only be installed if unlocked or s-0ff.
There's ClockworkMod and AmonRa. You'll wanna check them out both, I like Amon Ra.
re: step #4.
I know it's counterintuitive, but if you unlock it again after s-0ff, even though it's s-0ff, you will
have a nasty PINK Tampered flag every time you boot to hboot/custom recovery. And that crappy reminder stays
even after you you relock. The Juopunutbear process relocks the phone, making it S-0ff, Locked. Perfect.
Now with S-0ff, locked or unlocked doesn't matter regarding any roms or radios you may install and No warning flags.
Dont be intimidated by the wire procedure for s-0ff, just read it so many times beforehand that you effen KNOW it.
Enjoy: my Zound is so fast cool and perfect now that ive customized it to my useage pattern - hoping for
same experience for you!.
dashbored said:
Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
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I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
I sold the Thunderbolt today and so now I've officially transitioned over to the Rezound! The phone is the stock gingerbread. I am dying to root it if only just so I can use titanium back up to transfer my crap over.
Thanks guys for the helpful replies! I've decided that right now, what I want is to be on the ICS OTA but with S-off & root so I can remove the bloat and optimize it. I'll stay with that for a bit to get a baseline before trying out different ROMs
What kind of wires did you guys use for the S-off procedure? Do I need to go out and buy something specific, or is there something around the typical household setting that I can grab? Obviously, not frying the phone is top priority. I've read through too much posts in the past 48 hours and I've come across a few that mentioned fried USB ports and even dead phones that had to be returned, which's made me a bit tentative. But I want S-off, so any pointers/comments you may have that would help about this would be much appreciated!
michaelbsheldon - question about your steps #1 & #2. Aren't these extraneous steps, as in you could just do the S-off wire with the stock Gingerbread? I am kinda confused as to the purpose of unlocking it first via HTC Dev and flashing a stockish ROM before the wire trick.
bloodymurderlive said:
I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
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Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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I'm going to give you a response this afternooon... I recommend that you don't do anything until I can clarify some things. brt...
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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It doesn't matter much if you do the OTA update before or after s-off. If it were me, I would do the OTA update first, especially if you are still locked....then unlock and do s-off using the proper ICS (for .5) jounuputbear. You can keep the stock hboot. NO NEED to unlock after s-off! AFter s-off, flash your Amonra recovery and then flash your SU...or just flash a rooted ROM. I haven't looked a lot, but I bet there is a stock, rooted, debloated ROM based on this OTA...just flash that and you'll be all set! ....
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Flash CleanROM?
I see very little point in flashing a ROM, if you're trying to get the official ICS, root, and S-OFF. I believe the purpose of flashing the ROM is that the ROM is already rooted for you. However, you will need to re-root after you install the OTA, so why not do the same process twice (flash superSU) rather than two different processes (flash ROM, flash superSU)? Seems to me that flashing CleanROM introduces more variables than necessary.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I wouldn't try to install the OTA unless you are running stock Gingerbread. Alternatively, you could try to find a ROM based on the official ICS OTA, but the OTA is still very new... I would just do it the "proper" way (install through Gingerbread) and let those ROMs cook a little more before playing with them.
S-OFF before or after OTA?
I recommend achieving S-OFF before installing the OTA. The S-OFF procedure may very well work with the OTA, but it is guaranteed to work with stock Gingerbread. There is an ICS option in hansoon2000's all-in-one toolkit, but this is based on a leak... Which again is probably very similar (if not identical) to the OTA. But the official OTA is very new, so... In my opinion, the surest thing is to achieve S-OFF before installing the OTA.
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
It is kind of a pain to go through the HTC unlock process twice, but hey... It's up to you how much risk you're willing to take with your brand new Rezound. I took the safe route. It took maybe a little more time, and I had to do some steps twice (achieving root for GB, then for ICS... unlocking before and after ICS...), but since you only have to go through this whole process once, I recommend playing it safe.
PINK Tampered flag?
I unlocked again after achieving S-OFF. I just double-checked, and I do not see any pink "Tampered" flag anywhere in my bootloader. If you follow my instructions below, this shouldn't happen.
My start-to-finish recommendation:
If the end result you're looking for is ICS OTA, rooted, S-OFF, then I recommend you follow these guides, in the following order:
1: Scotty's noob-friendly guide to root Rezound:
http://androidforums.com/rezound-al...ys-noob-friendly-root-guide-start-finish.html
One thing to note: Scotty gives instructions both for temporary and permanent flashing of custom recovery. In your case, I would recommend doing the temporary flash. This will allow you to flash superSU (achieve root) - which you need to do in order to achieve S-OFF - but it will also save you the hassle of later having to flash the stock recovery back - which you need to have in order to install the OTA.
2: My guide to achieve S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kRxD5LtazP7vEnr9cDb3iHwWB1ZfJD_yn6xXo7d1bo/edit
3: My guide to install the OTA after rooting and S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmlh4OnplVfBNSjSyXfTYIVGfyb9lgI6ABpfg7gHY44/edit
If you flashed a temporary recovery, then you can skip to step 7 in this guide to verify that you have stock recovery on your device. If you do, then you should be able to initiate the OTA from within Gingerbread, and successfully install. In other words: If you flashed a temporary recovery, you can follow steps 7 to the end in this guide.
These three guides together, in the order that I listed them, are the exact steps I followed to achieve the same thing that you say you're shooting for: official ICS, rooted, S-OFF. I think these steps are the least risky steps you can take to achieve these things.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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FYI: AFter you s-off you can not use fastboot flash commands unless you install the JB Hboot at the end of the S-off process (it should offer you the option) That is the custom hboot you refer to. All flashers are encouraged to check MD5 sum of the files they download before flashing (primarily RUU, hboot/radios..not so much roms). This will guard against corrupted files, making the process less risky.
If you have the ph98img.zip file version of amonra, it will flash just fine in the stock hboot. Hboot picks it up when it scans for ph98img.zip files and you select yes to install.
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
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Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
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Exactly... I prefer that my Rezound is self-sufficient, without needing a PC to mess with it.
Good note on fast boot!
stock or rooted
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
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I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
flspanky said:
I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
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What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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Wow thank you for that informative reply! That really cleared up all of my questions. I now have two new, minor questions.
1. The audio clip for the S-off wire trick has two distinct tones. From watching the video, it looks like the different tones don't matter. Basically just hit tap and release as the metronome hits the first beat, and then again on the second beat. Correct?
2. This is probably a silly question, but what are the advantages of Amon Ra recovery over the stock?
I am too tired tonight, but I think I am going to give this a go this weekend...
michaelbsheldon said:
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
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Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
bloodymurderlive said:
What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
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Thanks. I was installing the ICS Global root and ROM and the instructions said to wipe all, and I was not sure how many areas under the wiping options I should perform.
Quick update - I've rooted my Rezound. Have not done the S-off wire trick yet. Still on stock GB.
Question - none of the wifi tether app seems to be working! Open garden was working perfectly for me with my old rooted Thunderbolt. A quick search seems to show that Rezound has issues with wifi tethering?! This was one of the main motivations behind rooting, so I am a feeling a bit underwhelmed right now with my new Rezound...
Newest wifi tether works fine...even has Rezound settings. Since you are still on GB search for sirgatez mod. Worked great for me when I was still on GB.
Sent from my HTC Rezound / ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk v2.2.7
Ok, so I have been looking for days on what to do, I want to make sure I don't screw up.
I have been reading this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817513
When I press Power + VolDown I can see it say "H-Boot 1.5.0000" so I assume this means I have 1.5 and not 1.58 or whatever right?
So then according to that, I can only use a ICS rom if I have hboot 1.58 right? And the only exploit that turns Hboot to fully S-OFF so I can flash both custom roms AND radios runs on 1.40 right?
So basically,... I need to purposely make my phone fail a flash and brick it on PURPOSE (I am really REALLY worried about this) and make it kick into an emergency boot flash mode, use a specially designed Linux BootCD to flash hboot 1.40, hack 1.40 after installing it to turn S-OFF, and then upgrade to hboot 1.58, keeping S-OFF that way, right?
Is there any way some app or update or whatever can turn S-ON back again? Or will it be permanently S-OFF once I do this?
Will any of the internal or SD memory be wiped if I do this? Can I do the temp-root method first to use titanium backup just in case it wipes my data before I try to brick it?
I know bricking is a pretty nasty thing, have there been people who permanently bricked it like this? How will I know when to fail the flashing process?
And I am assuming that since this entails flashing an upgrade then making it fail, I am only going to have one shot at this aren't I?
I wish this wasn't so risky...
Cyber Akuma said:
I wish this wasn't so risky...
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If the downgrade method seems risky, you could try the JuopunutBear (wire trick) method to gain S-OFF. I have a guide thread here that outlines a pretty simple process to get root and S-OFF.
If you are concerned about the wire trick, read through the tips and references for Step3 of that guide. Many people have used that method to gain S-OFF on the Evo 3D and other phones, and I have yet to hear of a confirmed report that it damaged a phone. It may corrupt the SD card used during the process, but that can easily be restored.
ramjet73
I looked into that, but it says flashing a stock hboot would re-lock it, plus it needs me to do the HTC Unlock first meaning i would lose the information on my phone.
I used the wire trick. Easiest thing in the world. I personally used the wires in a USB cable and it worked fine. it took only 3 or 4 tries and BAMN! your s-off.
But will I be able to upgrade to hboot 1.58 while keeping s-off with the wire trick? And will it work for radios too?
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I looked into that, but it says flashing a stock hboot would re-lock it, plus it needs me to do the HTC Unlock first meaning i would lose the information on my phone.
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Actually, flashing the RUU (Step1) requires relocking the bootloader if it's currently unlocked (which it sounds like you are not), and the wire trick (Step3) requires being HTC unlocked, which you need for rooting (Step2) as well.
Just backup the information on your phone using MyBackup or an equivalent app and restore it after you have S-OFF. I believe that was mentioned in the guide.
There is currently no way to get root or S-OFF on the Evo 3D without resetting your phone, since the HTC unlock does that and the hboot downgrade requires flashing an RUU that will reset everything to stock. If backing up and restoring your apps and data seems difficult to you then you are probably better off staying with a stock configuration and hope you don't damage or lose your phone.
Cyber Akuma said:
But will I be able to upgrade to hboot 1.58 while keeping s-off with the wire trick? And will it work for radios too?
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If you follow the guide exactly as it is written you will wind up with the current Sprint ICS (2.89.651.2) firmware, and the JuopunutBear 1.58.5858 bootloader which is a modified version of the 1.58 hboot that allows more fastboot commands. You will be rooted with a radio S-OFF status, and can flash whatever hboot, recovery, ROM and kernel you want.
It's really pretty easy, and you are making it more complicated than it needs to be. If you want to do it, backup your phone and SD card and follow the guide. If not, just be happy that the Evo 3D is a pretty nice phone in its stock configuration.
ramjey73
My ultimate goal is to have this thing fully S-OFF and running a rooted stock Sprint ICS firmware (At least for now, I will use a custom rom someday down the road), is that stock rom you mentioned rooted?
And I never heard of that backup app, pretty sure you need root access in order to backup everything, I want all of my apps and their settings backed up too, not just stuff like my contacts (useless since gmail syncs them anyway) and texts.
Cyber Akuma said:
My ultimate goal is to have this thing fully S-OFF and running a rooted stock Sprint ICS firmware (At least for now, I will use a custom rom someday down the road), is that stock rom you mentioned rooted?
And I never heard of that backup app, pretty sure you need root access in order to backup everything, I want all of my apps and their settings backed up too, not just stuff like my contacts (useless since gmail syncs them anyway) and texts.
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You can check the backup apps, including MyBackup, on the Google Play Store. Like I said, you might be better off just staying with a stock configuration since my guide does exactly what you are asking for via a procedure that is as simpified as I can make it. Maybe someone else can offer you what you are looking for, but there is no "one click" root and S-OFF for the Evo 3D that maintains all your data, apps and settings, so you may be searching for a long time.
Good luck!
ramjet73
One-click isn't what I'm looking for, its not that the procedure is complicated to me so much as I have a choice between either a very risky method or a method that is safe but will make me lose data and corrupt my SD. I mean, I can backup my SD, but I also want to backup my internal memory too.
I remember hearing that there was a method to gain temporary root without erasing anything, it would go away on the next reboot. if I can do that I can at least back up the data first.
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One-click isn't what I'm looking for, its not that the procedure is complicated to me so much as I have a choice between either a very risky method or a method that is safe but will make me lose data and corrupt my SD. I mean, I can backup my SD, but I also want to backup my internal memory too.
I remember hearing that there was a method to gain temporary root without erasing anything, it would go away on the next reboot. if I can do that I can at least back up the data first.
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AFAIK, there's no temporary root that works on the Evo 3D. Someone posted one here that works on the Sensation, but it was tested and didn't work on the Evo 3D. Apparently you can only run ADB commands with that even on the Sensation, so that wouldn't help you much.
It's really not a big deal to restore your apps and contacts from Google if you choose that option in the privacy settings, and you shouldn't have to worry about email. In the worst case you might lose some text messages if you are not using Google Voice, but there are non-rooted apps that will back those up as well. You will have to reconfigure your home screens and enter a few userid's and passwords, but that doesn't take much effort.
I really don't understand what is holding you back, but that's your choice. I'm not going to try to convince you anymore given the type of reservations you are expressing.
Edit1: Just out of curiosity, how do you backup your phone now? How would you recover your data, apps and settings if your phone got lost, stolen or had to be replaced? If you can answer that, it may be the solution to how you can approach getting root and S-OFF.
Edit2: Here's a temp root procedure that might work with the hboot 1.5 (assuming you are on GB build 2.17.651.5) that you have now. I've never used it myself so if you have questions or problems you will need to contact the OP of that thread. I know this and other temp root procedures have not worked with the Sprint ICS build (2.89.651.2) because the exploit used has been patched.
ramjet73
Ramjet is the master, google is your friend but with 40 different explanations you are going to get confused with google, If your have any reservations do not unlock nor root your phone. Ramjet has been around for a very long time, he absolutely knows all the ins an outs in regards to the evo, android and rooting. With any new process there's always a learning curve and always the possibility of bricking your phone. The decision must be yours , good luck.
( Don't ask me for help, as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh!!!)
I DON'T have a current backup method (other than what Google syncs) that's why I want to do a backup first. I know my purchases are stored on my Google account, but I have multiple Android devices and my apps are split between them, if I just hit download all it would fill myemory with junk apps. There are many apps on my phone and I doubt I would remember them all. However, the main reason is that I want to backup their data and settings, that's more important than backing up the apps themselves for me.
My phone is thankfully still on stock Gingerbread.
Cyber Akuma said:
I DON'T have a current backup method (other than what Google syncs) that's why I want to do a backup first. I know my purchases are stored on my Google account, but I have multiple Android devices and my apps are split between them, if I just hit download all it would fill myemory with junk apps. There are many apps on my phone and I doubt I would remember them all. However, the main reason is that I want to backup their data and settings, that's more important than backing up the apps themselves for me.
My phone is thankfully still on stock Gingerbread.
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If you are going to try the "tacoroot" temp root method, you should be aware of this post by coal686 in response to my posting possible temp root methods in my root and S-OFF guide thread.
Good luck!
ramjet73
I cannot even get a single ROM besides the stock to work on the phone, I've been able to work other ROMs on my phone before, and now, they just quit on me. I've done nothing special recently, besides flash the stock RUU because games on the previous ROM I had, failed to work anymore (applications were left intact, oddly.) I just don't know what's going on with this phone anymore. Though it might be because I'm not on the same hboot that I was on when I got S-OFF (somehow reverted to 1.57.000 again).
Any things I should do to figure out what's going on with the phone? I'm not too stupid I'm just not knowledgeable in the process of doing things with this specific phone. Don't worry about technical terms, I can handle them.
'Blu said:
Any things I should do to figure out what's going on with the phone? I'm not too stupid I'm just not knowledgeable in the process of doing things with this specific phone. Don't worry about technical terms, I can handle them.
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What recovery and hboot do you have now and what ROM's are you trying to flash? I suggest using 4EXT recovery and the JBear 1.50.5050 hboot for the greatest chance of success with the most ROM's, including those based on GB and JB.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
What recovery and hboot do you have now and what ROM's are you trying to flash? I suggest using 4EXT recovery and the JBear 1.50.5050 hboot for the greatest chance of success with the most ROM's, including those based on GB and JB.
ramjet73
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I don't even know how to get my hboot to a lower version, I burned the Downgrade Kit to one of my CDs, and that didn't work at all, never saw my phone, even though I know it should.
HBOOT-1.57.0000
RADIO-1.06.00.0426
UNLOCKED & S-OFF.
Was flashing MeanROM ICS (which I know works with my phone, it just doesn't now.) Sort of started noticing the problems after forgetting I need a different HBOOT and flashed another ROM (forgot the name, but it's on my sdcard).
If you can guide me to the right direction in order to downgrade my HBOOT so I can run a JB ROM, I'd be grateful, because that's what I've been wanting all along, but this device is just a headache over my One V .
'Blu said:
If you can guide me to the right direction in order to downgrade my HBOOT so I can run a JB ROM, I'd be grateful, because that's what I've been wanting all along, but this device is just a headache over my One V .
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You can use this guide to downgrade your bootloader (hboot).
Note that there are two methods to do the update. I prefer doing it with the fastboot commands since that doesn't require updating the SD card, but most users seem to prefer the PG86IMG.zip method. Just make sure you have a plan to delete the file from the root if the SD card after flashing it if you use that method.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
You can use this guide to downgrade your bootloader (hboot).
Note that there are two methods to do the update. I prefer doing it with the fastboot commands since that doesn't require updating the SD card, but most users seem to prefer the PG86IMG.zip method. Just make sure you have a plan to delete the file from the root if the SD card after flashing it if you use that method.
ramjet73
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I really don't understand why people don't use the fastboot method! It's 2 steps and much quicker. You can have another hboot within 30 seconds rather than having to take out your SD card multiple times, especially with the way the back is made.
I need to figure out driver issues first though, my phone isn't being detected in Fastboot, but recovery is fine. All in all I'm 100% sure this will work, thanks for the help .
Ehh, got it done in SD Card, it worked, appreciate it very much!