Ics and xda - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Why isn't there much ics support on the xda portion of the thunderbolt??? The devious rom looks pretty damn stable yet all the roms here seem to be stuck on gingerbread is there a reason why this is the case?
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The ril for the thunderbolt doesn't work for ics yet. It probably won't until we have an official ics rom.
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How the hell did an HTC phone from 2010 get it working before us. I'm referring to the MyTouch 4G.
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KeithLing1115 said:
How the hell did an HTC phone from 2010 get it working before us. I'm referring to the MyTouch 4G.
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We probably have the most confusing RIL out there...
I don't think there is another SVDO+LTE phone out there.

It probably is extremely complicated and I don't think htc released the source either.
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We have the only device with two radios sandwiched together.
No other device has this frankenstein approach, therefor it makes it that much more difficult to just guess on how to make it work.
With other devices which share similar or same radios, it is much easier to do.
The benefit to the fact that we have the radio sandwich in our phones, is simultaneous data and voice. The downside, we all know already....

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Photon bootloader

I got a reply from a mod on the moto forums regarding the unlocking of the bootloader
Here it is
Nope no Motorola phones have unlocked bootloader solutions at this time. Motorola XOOM tablet is the only device currently. As providers allow certain devices will get the capability enabled.
Oh fun.....so ya if there is anything i can do to start helping devs get us a fully functional unlocked bootloader ...plz let me know...cause it doesnt sound like moto is gonna help us out anytime soon
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Not surprised.
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It's not like I didn't see that coming. lol
Can we be clear..the bootloader has been unlocked on the photon ..but it breaks wimax 4g to be unlocked
So if you do not use wimax or have wimax in your area...unlock
Oddly with the way wimax vs lte is going and wimax coverage area to loose just one thing,wimax to unlock is looking less an issue.....do I want my wimax...yes
..but i can unlock if need..but i do want both
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redhatter said:
Can we be clear..the bootloader has been unlocked on the photon ..but it breaks wimax 4g to be unlocked
So if you do not use wimax or have wimax in your area...unlock
Oddly with the way wimax vs lte is going and wimax coverage area to loose just one thing,wimax to unlock is looking less an issue.....do I want my wimax...yes
..but i can unlock if need..but i do want both
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You are quite correct.
But from my point of view, that does not constitute "unlocked" since it broke something we know about, and there's always the possibility it broke something else we don't know about (but not likely).
I don't consider the Photon to be unlocked since I travel a lot and want all the standard features to work wherever I go.
Just saying ...
Borked unlocked
I have never had 4g til bout a month ago..i get it at my house...my high speed internet crash for couple days...i need high speed for work....my photon saved the days!! Thankfully for teathering
So ya..i loved how much custom roms and kernals improved my evo..honestly without them i would of went back to the iphone
I love this phone but i feel it could do so much more....but not at the risk of loosing important features like 4g
A unlocked bootloader...i think its worth a bounty.... lets get it started!!!
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Motorola unlocked the atrix bootloader in June.
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Really....figures people acting like they know stuff and misleading people
How long was it after they released the atrix??
If thats the case maybe its not a lost cause
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I don'T recall the release date. I want to say 4 months but that's just a guess.
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Not suprised at all
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Wonder if that has anything to do with them gearing up to release the Atrix 2?
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xTMFxOffshore said:
Wonder if that has anything to do with them gearing up to release the Atrix 2?
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They lied
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Lol. Okay....
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Any date?
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[Q] Moto Photon 4G or NS4G?

I'm getting one of these as a replacement for my 3D from Sprint. I'm torn. What do you suggest and why?
Photon packed full of features and it's not samsung
Nexus s - single core, no micro sd, 5mp camera, outdated.
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^true, but nexus s 4g is more than likely getting ics, whereas the photon is a bit in the air. Also, I think it has a bigger development community (no offense to the great devs here of course) on xda
Not even close. Wife had a nexus s 4g. I've had a Photon. Just bought a mopho for her and working on selling the ns4g. I thought it was going to be great with the open source and dev network and everything. It was a disappointment. It also does not have gorilla glass, is smaller, and has no kickstand. I would rather wait longer for official ICS than step down to a NS4G.
You should list things you absolutely need a phone (good signal, good quality screen, build quality, camera performance, etc.) and then check which of the two offers the most must need features.
This isn't even a question, of course the photon. Just because the NS4G is getting ICS wouldn't make it a better choice. Getting a NS4G at this point would be taking a step backwards imo.
Went with the photon. Sounds like I can root and retain 4g and use root apps like wifi tether but no ROMs if I want 4g. I guess this is good enough for now.
Chances the bootloader will ever be unlocked?
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sdc177 said:
Went with the photon. Sounds like I can root and retain 4g and use root apps like wifi tether but no ROMs if I want 4g. I guess this is good enough for now.
Chances the bootloader will ever be unlocked?
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The bootloader is unlocked, it's just that 4G gets disabled.
I'm getting my photon in two days as a replacement for my banged up 3VO... so glad it is on back order and I was offered something better....
So to the point.... If I am reading correctly, if I want to flash a custom ROM and recovery I have to give up 4g?
... Sounds good to me, I don't even get good 3g at my house, never mind 4g.... I'm always on wifi...
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gollyzila said:
The bootloader is unlocked, it's just that 4G gets disabled.
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Thanks, I got confused. So what are the chances of finding a way to unlock and retain 4g?
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sdc177 said:
Thanks, I got confused. So what are the chances of finding a way to unlock and retain 4g?
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Its currently being worked on but I wouldn't expect anything anytime soon. Providing ETA's in the Photon forums seem to get you beat like a red headed stepchild in here!
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sdc177 said:
Thanks, I got confused. So what are the chances of finding a way to unlock and retain 4g?
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Not too good without an assist from Motorola.
6bowmans said:
Not too good without an assist from Motorola.
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retain 4g thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227867
Umm no that's super old
Use rocko locked or skinny4g
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retain 4g thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227867
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if you are willing to give up 4g unlock your bootloader and download jokersax's cm9 ROM it's great and the only thing that isn't working is the camera which i believe is gonna be fixed by the end of this week
photon_man said:
if you are willing to give up 4g unlock your bootloader and download jokersax's cm9 ROM it's great and the only thing that isn't working is the camera which i believe is gonna be fixed by the end of this week
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So can you relock and get 4g back? I've tried different ICS ROMs on other phones including CM9 and while I like it I'm not willing to permanently lose 4g so I can play with it on the MoPho.
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Yes, it is reversible
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CM9 hardware acceleration also doesn't work yet. All the videos I watch now requires the software decoding.
Photon!!!!!
Better photon
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Bluetooth range issues

I have tmo rooted stock rom 1.43 and have the worst range from Bluetooth...i see I'm not the only one, because there are many reports on tmo site...my questions are who here has this problem, what have you done to fix it, and does the custom roms have this problem?
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There are quite a few threads on this site about it.
Mine is stock and I get up to about 20' and seems to start losing signal. I am fine with that though. Phone is always close by me anyway.....
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JesseMT4G said:
There are quite a few threads on this site about it.
Mine is stock and I get up to about 20' and seems to start losing signal. I am fine with that though. Phone is always close by me anyway.....
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What software number do you have? And what amaze?tmo or other? Cause i only get 3 feet and htc says it's a known issue...
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what I dont get is why motorola says I can get up to 300 feet of range and mine cuts out around 15 feet.
djtheraven said:
What software number do you have? And what amaze?tmo or other? Cause i only get 3 feet and htc says it's a known issue...
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To lazy to look for software #, but all Amazes are T-Mobile.
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JesseMT4G said:
To lazy to look for software #, but all Amazes are T-Mobile.
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Excuse me? Not all amazes are from T-Mobile. There's amazes for Wind and Telus too.

Sprint radio compatability

I currently have an evo 3d. I'm running the latest ICS roms and noticed that my service is terrible. I have read that the radio isn't very good and I'm not the only one having this issue. Is it possible to flash a different radio on the new ICS roms or do they require the current radio only. Oh, and this is on the sprint CDMA network. Thanks for any help...
Nope just has to be for the Evo 3d I use the gb radio on ics even though I get better service on the ics one
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Nope just has to be for the Evo 3d I use the gb radio on ics even though I get better service on the ics one
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That's an interesting choice lol
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In theory, you could flash a Verizon radio to a Sprint phone. I haven't tried it since pre 4G days. For instance, I had Sprint's HTC Hero and I would flash radios made for Verizon's HTC Eris. But only when the Eris would have a newer radio available. I never had an issue. I wouldn't try flashing a WiMax or LTE radio. I bet the developer Toast would have more input as to whether it is still possible or not. I wouldn't just go flashing them because that's pretty much the only way to brick your phone.
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[Q] Gnex to the DNA

Well after going through 4 GNex replacements VZW has decided to send me a HTC DNA to replace it, and it will be here monday.
I am curious as to the two different DNA Development Threads... ?
Can someone explain?
Also as I have been reading threads (still reading now) that the current RUU is unrootable?
Is this still true? ( I may have already got to "that thread" by the time I get an answer)
Just trying to get some info before I delve into it.
brianburen said:
I am curious as to the two different DNA Development Threads... ?
Can someone explain?
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Are you referring to the DNA Android Development and DNA Original Android development boards? The first one (loosely speaking) is more for kangs, and roms that are based off of stock, as well as roms that are based off of other people's work (i.e. not fully original work). The original development board is geared towards roms built from source (i.e. AOSP roms), as well as development that introduce original features.
brianburen said:
Also as I have been reading threads (still reading now) that the current RUU is unrootable?
Is this still true? ( I may have already got to "that thread" by the time I get an answer)
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This is false. I recommend using Moonshine to root and unlock your device on the latest update.
shobon said:
Are you referring to the DNA Android Development and DNA Original Android development boards? The first one (loosely speaking) is more for kangs, and roms that are based off of stock, as well as roms that are based off of other people's work (i.e. not fully original work). The original development board is geared towards roms built from source (i.e. AOSP roms), as well as development that introduce original features.
Thanks that explains it!
This is false. I recommend using Moonshine to root and unlock your device on the latest update.
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Ok sounds good to me!
You are getting an incredible device my friend. Beautiful screen, lightning fast, and a surprisingly decent battery. Plus we have had an influx of roms since Chad got cyanogenmod working and even more devs since the moonshine s-off solution!
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danielhall2689 said:
You are getting an incredible device my friend. Beautiful screen, lightning fast, and a surprisingly decent battery. Plus we have had an influx of roms since Chad got cyanogenmod working and even more devs since the moonshine s-off solution!
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Agreed.
I intentionally moved from the gnex to the DNA, as I had a coupon to get it for free and I felt the deal couldn't be beat.
After a slow start (as s-off wasn't available yet) when I first got it, I am now absolutely thrilled with it and couldn't be happier.
Performance is so much better than the Gnex, it's ridiculous.
Well now FedEx can't get here soon enough after reading your comments.
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Well now FedEx can't get here soon enough after reading your comments.
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Be very excited. I came from the GNex as well. The DNA makes it look silly. You'll love it
Wow just wow.... I love this phone... Only bug is 4g isnt working...? I'm in 4G area.
Any ideas?
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No idea why u shouldnt get 4g. Make sure cdma LTE is checked
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Try rebooting your phone
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4G is a-ok. I had a Gnex once upon a blue moon and the differences are staggering. I found the screen to be dark and brooding no matter how high the brightness was set. On the DNA, even at low brightness the colors seem to pop. You'll be more than happy.
brianburen said:
Wow just wow.... I love this phone... Only bug is 4g isnt working...? I'm in 4G area.
Any ideas?
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Root and Rom it!
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I'm new here too, from the gnex. So far, I'm loving it..
I can't believe this phone isn't more popular for how cheap it can be found.
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I too will be a Gnex refugee. My 2 Gnexs have touch screen issues that come and go. My used DNA should arrive tomorrow. I just want an Android phone that works properly. I'm also buying a Qi wireless charger.
I am S-off, Rooted. Tried several roms but had no data at all, couldn't sign in to Google account.
I had backed up my stock Rom after I rooted and I'm on it now. Rebooted.
On LTE/cdma. Getting frustrated... No 4G sucks.... Don't know how I ever survived on 3G....lol
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Have you tried to ruu it? Maybe that will help. Also try after ruu going into stock recovery and factory reset from there. It fixed my radio when I was stuck on roaming... Maybe it will help you. Also have you tried reseating the sim card? Those have been known to be very touchy on our phones
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brianburen said:
I am S-off, Rooted. Tried several roms but had no data at all, couldn't sign in to Google account.
I had backed up my stock Rom after I rooted and I'm on it now. Rebooted.
On LTE/cdma. Getting frustrated... No 4G sucks.... Don't know how I ever survived on 3G....lol
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the RUU didnt do crap for me. and this will wipe your entire phone back to stock, "sd card" and all. but it worked
Thanks for the suggestions... I'm trying now.
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Thanks for the suggestions... I'm trying now.
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You have any luck?
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I got an update. if I switch the radio manually to LTE only I get 4G signal and 4G speed, but no calls no text message. if I put it on CDMA LTE auto all I get is 3G it will not switch to 4G automatically anybody have any ideas could this be an APN issue thanks for your help.
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brianburen said:
I got an update. if I switch the radio manually to LTE only I get 4G signal and 4G speed, but no calls no text message. if I put it on CDMA LTE auto all I get is 3G it will not switch to 4G automatically anybody have any ideas could this be an APN issue thanks for your help.
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try this from one of my old posts ignore the stuff about viperrom unless your on it.
EDIT: so you did or did not ruu it?

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