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This is a normal usage test I was doing on both the tablets I got for early xmas gifts
Since I don't need two, I was trying to decide which one to keep.
Notes:
Transformer Prime is running on normal mode, full brightness (super ips mode off).
Both tablets are running the same version of GO Launcher EX and the same live wallpaper.
The Prime shipped with non-working GPS, a piece of dust inside the screen right above the docking port. It also has screen bleed that is very noticeable during boot screen and is some-what noticeable during normal use (its right above dock port on the status bar.).
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HP Touchpad is running full brightness.
The Touchpad has very minor screen bleed which is barley noticeable during boot screen and not noticeable at all during use.
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I recorded my experience on video.
http://youtu.be/-DGnI4Lx91M
Good show. Looks like $99 was a better deal so far... I'm sure once seven get their hands on the prime, she will sing. But HP isn't doing too bad for non native android running on it...
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think long term potential on the prime v. the touchpad especially when ICS and custom roms come out for the Prime..the Beast will be unleashed (quadcore to its full potential)
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Good luck finding a touchpad for 99 dollars :/
ickkii said:
Good luck finding a touchpad for 99 dollars :/
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That's the thing, the price comparison is rather disingenuous. If you managed to get one for that, it was an amazing deal and it'll be a long time before anything will beat it on value. But you can't go out to a store now and buy one, and that was never the intended price - a deal like that isn't likely to be coming around again any time soon.
It looks pretty competitive with the Prime on those tasks you showed, although there has to be some advantage running CM7 compared to the Prime's almost brand-new Honeycomb firmware; we'll have to see how the Prime develops with ICS and, hopefully, custom ROMs, as it surely has more power under the hood if it can bring that to bear.
Specific issues aside, I think a lot of the disappointment around this tablet is coming from those who already have a decent dual-core tablet (especially if it was bought at an unbelievably good price..!) and were expecting the Prime to be dramatically faster out of the box. It remains to be seen whether quad-core tablets will "age" slower than dual-core ones, as I've experienced on the desktop, but I consider the quad-core an investment in the future more than anything else. Quad-core SoCs will surely start to take over at the high-end in time, and then more optimisations will be made for them when they do. I wouldn't upgrade from this year's dual-cores to Tegra 3, though - those devices are still decent, and if you already have a good tablet it makes more sense to hang on to that at the moment and see what comes around next year.
Apples to Oranges. You're comparing an overclocked custom kernel, on a custom ROM (CM7...that is unmatched in speed by any and all stock ROMs out there), on a tablet bought at fire-sale prices...to the Prime purchased at full retail price, running a stock kernel/ROM, running an aftermarket launcher that's slower than pond water on the Prime (stock HC is light-years faster) and say the Prime doesn't measure up.
There is a serious issues of validity in your "experiment".
Edit: please don't try to take this as me blindingly defending the Prime. I'm just trying to keep invalid misinformation to be taken as "word of god" as it often happens on the internet.
seriously man, at this point im getting really sick of you, every thread you go in all you talk about is your damn touchpad and how crappy the prime is, if thats the case fine, sell the prime and keep your touchpad...but leave these forums and go troll in the touchpad one
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seriously man, at this point im getting really sick of you, every thread you go in all you talk about is your damn touchpad and how crappy the prime is, if thats the case fine, sell the prime and keep your touchpad...but leave these forums and go troll in the touchpad one
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Totally agree.
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jzen said:
i was not impressed with the primes hardware, software or screen. IMO my HP Touchpad runs better, good roms and screen colors are better.
selling it. dont become negative this is just my conclusion after testing each side by side. the primes price makes it not worth it to me considering the HP Touchpad does everything I would use the prime for but better and it was $300 cheaper.
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Just sell it and go to the Touchpad forums?
Look, I've got issues with my prime too. But we all know this comparison is a little bit sneaky. It's like taking an underpowered econo car that the dealership is trying to get rid of and throwing twin turbos on it - yup, it'll probably beat some high-powered coupes off the show room floor, and most of us might be happy with that. But deep down inside you know it's a pretty stupid comparison.
Just give the prime some time.
lol at this!
come on this is a blatant touchpad fan boy post.
having a CM7 custom ROM vs stock first revision of ROM on a tablet that's been out since last week.
lmao, so many people get butt hurt over it... (calm down, its just a side by side comparison of the two devices I have)
The bottom line is that the prime has 5 cores, the touchpad has 2 cores but according to setcpu its only using 1 of its cores.
And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
I decided to keep both devices. Touchpad for development and the prime for gaming (although right now it cannot play too many games, but im sure it will change in the future.).
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And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
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How do you know the Touchpad had very little issues? you bought it at $99, way late in the game. Ask the people who paid $499 for the 32GB when it first came out. Most of the original issues have been resolved over time. Search the web and see, the touchpad had many issues in its infancy. The Prime is in it's infancy but will grow up to be a great BIG BOY!
My Touchpad has many issues in both webOS and CM7.. CM7 alpha 3.5 was working fine but now it stutters and force closes a lot.. for the webOS.. the damn thing just keeps disconnecting from the my router at random times and the only way for me to get it working again is to reboot the Touchpad.. I got it for my son to play with but he's gotten frustrated with it and steals my Transformer to play with.
There are some issues and quirks I can live with. My son can do so as well. The Touchpad has issues that gets him too frustrated though and he's usually one to tell me anything can be fixed
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lmao, so many people get butt hurt over it... (calm down, its just a side by side comparison of the two devices I have)
The bottom line is that the prime has 5 cores, the touchpad has 2 cores but according to setcpu its only using 1 of its cores.
And also the prime seems to be shipping with many nasty defects (for $499 you wouldn't expect that) where the touchpad didnt have any (except for a tiny amount of light bleed).
I decided to keep both devices. Touchpad for development and the prime for gaming (although right now it cannot play too many games, but im sure it will change in the future.).
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Congratualtions, you successfully gimped the prime with go launcher.
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@OP how come my stock browser on prime is running fluid with just a settings mod and your touchcrap needs CM 7 with overclocked processor to achieve the same.
people are not but hurt you infantile.
your showing a highly custom ROM well into the devices launch when they had time to work on it verses a brand new tablet which has had zero time for devs to work on it.
Just sell your TP and then go with your touchpad....It's that plain and simple! Have a nice day and please stay out of the TP section
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Apples to Oranges. You're comparing an overclocked custom kernel, on a custom ROM (CM7...that is unmatched in speed by any and all stock ROMs out there), on a tablet bought at fire-sale prices...to the Prime purchased at full retail price, running a stock kernel/ROM, running an aftermarket launcher that's slower than pond water on the Prime (stock HC is light-years faster) and say the Prime doesn't measure up.
There is a serious issues of validity in your "experiment".
Edit: please don't try to take this as me blindingly defending the Prime. I'm just trying to keep invalid misinformation to be taken as "word of god" as it often happens on the internet.
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good points. plus I stopped watching his video after the opera mobile comparison. I counted down how long it took for each to first show something on page and then finish completely loading the page. his touchpad clearly showed it was the loser in that comparison. took almost double the time of prime to fully load that web page on his touchpad. prime was also faster on showing something from page on screen first. same with his Netflix comparison. I loved how he gave his touchpad a few seconds to load and start scrolling vs. the prime which he started scrolling immediately..lol. touchpad failed in that comparison also. even with him giving the touchpad a lil more time to load, prime still showed more on screen first and loaded movies up faster. the touchpad had a bunch of gray squares when first loaded and took longer to fully load all the movies on-screen. as far as his UI scrolling goes, looks to me that prime performed just fine. there where even instances on his touchoad where his taps or scrolls didn't immediately register and looked laggy. touchpad for 99 is a great deal, hands down. but its in no way competition to the prime, on any front.
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Prime touchpad blah blah blah... As far I can use the touchpad for all my task I want from a tablet and smooth. Who care about 5 core. I bet the ipad is best, because of the more than 10 cores lol.
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How do you know the Touchpad had very little issues? you bought it at $99, way late in the game. Ask the people who paid $499 for the 32GB when it first came out. Most of the original issues have been resolved over time. Search the web and see, the touchpad had many issues in its infancy. The Prime is in it's infancy but will grow up to be a great BIG BOY!
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Congratualtions, you successfully gimped the prime with go launcher.
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@OP how come my stock browser on prime is running fluid with just a settings mod and your touchcrap needs CM 7 with overclocked processor to achieve the same.
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people are not but hurt you infantile.
your showing a highly custom ROM well into the devices launch when they had time to work on it verses a brand new tablet which has had zero time for devs to work on it.
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Just sell your TP and then go with your touchpad....It's that plain and simple! Have a nice day and please stay out of the TP section
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all this is too funny. I will admit for only 99 that touchoad is a good device, it looks like. the comparisons to Prime though falls very short for several reasons.
I have the opportunity to upgrade for $50, but the NC really runs CM7 nicely. For those with experience with the NC & NT, are the extras worth $50?
Yes, NT has a fast processor and it's dual-core...is the difference noticeable?
The speaker on the NC has crapped out on me twice now...how is the NT speaker?
Anything else that's better, worse?
TIA for your input.
Dont think twice. NT left NC far back in competition.
Double ram.
Double speed
Double memory
Better screen
Check development thread to see how Ics flows on it.
Hit thanks if you want.
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there's always a better product if you wait, but can you wait?
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I have the opportunity to upgrade for $50, but the NC really runs CM7 nicely. For those with experience with the NC & NT, are the extras worth $50?
Yes, NT has a fast processor and it's dual-core...is the difference noticeable?
The speaker on the NC has crapped out on me twice now...how is the NT speaker?
Anything else that's better, worse?
TIA for your input.
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My wife had a NC and when I bought my NT and she saw how nice it "flowed" and streamed shows off the net she sold her NC and bought the NT. NO doubt a better unit in the NT.
At one point in time, I had the exact same question.
Back then (after reading up on these forums), I was all excited to run out and find me a nice used Nook Color on the cheap, root it, install CM7, etc...
Then I was at the mall one day with the gf, there was a Barnes & Noble there, I thought I'd go in and fondle the goods. Wow am I glad I did! The NC was just so choppy, the tablet much smoother. Way better hardware, makes a huge difference. I spent the few extra $$ for the NT and have never looked back. Extremely happy.
IMO, that few extra dollars you pay initially is well worth the increased performance and enjoyment over the life of the product.
Now, I was comparing stock to stock. I'm not sure how much faster a NC running CM7 runs over stock, but I'm guessing still nowhere near the NT.
Best thing to do, go in to your local B&N (or Best Buy, etc., lots of places sell them) and have a look for yourself.
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I've spent significant time with both NC and NT, and I think the upgrade would be well worth the extra money.
Android development for the NT is still in the early stages, but within a week or two we'll have an SD card with a dual boot option thanks to the fine developers here.
The microphone on the NT might be handy for some future apps, as well.
Thanks for all the input. I did mess with it, and the stock ROM wasn't blowing me away that much, granted I only spent about 5 mins on it.
Okay, I'm sold. Thanks again...
Go ICS!!
Update:
First off, thanks again for all the input.
I picked up a NT yesterday & after messing with it, I can notice a difference. The UI is a lot smoother & snappier. So, now to hang tight for CM7 or CM9. CM7 is pretty close now, just the sleep issue before Alpha.
Cheers
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I got the NT ... Rooted within ten minutes ...
I mostly play games and read books...
While no breathtaking difference to NC , lot smoother , Also if you play games, then the SGX 540 makes a helluva difference.
Also I'm predicting better CM9 updates in the future since TI OMAP 4430 is launch platform
daedricgeek said:
I got the NT ... Rooted within ten minutes ...
I mostly play games and read books...
While no breathtaking difference to NC , lot smoother , Also if you play games, then the SGX 540 makes a helluva difference.
Also I'm predicting better CM9 updates in the future since TI OMAP 4430 is launch platform
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lmao I did exactly the same, it just took me about 12 hours to root mine around Christmas time, I was not using any rooting information from xda.
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hi,
i am about 32gb hp touchpad for 300usd.
So my question is
1. can it run gingerbread totally stable as in for daily use.
2. what about the infamous battery drain and dead issue, does it hamper all the touchpad.
Please answer in all honesty,
Thanks
I believe cm7 was pretty darn solid for the time I used it. Although cm7 support has pretty much faded away, the current focus now is cm9 which I'm running right now. With a few wifi hiccups here and there, it runs just as well. I'd go with cm9.
I have not had the battery falter on me since moving to cm9. It used to be that it'd take forever to charge up once dead, then try to boot up and then die again (and loop), but not anymore. Battery life for me is around 8-9 hours of FULL time use, I'm talkin screen on the entire time and the whole 9 yards.
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Ok, so, gingerbread isn't 100% stable, but it works just well. However, if you will download flash player on it and watch youtube through web browser, you'll get blocky videos.
If I were you, I would install ice cream sandwich (android 4.0) on it because it is much more usable in terms of browsing, watching movies and you get a real tablet experience on it.
With gingerbread you seem like you are holding a huge phone, which has no 3g...
So to be honest I would pick ice cream sandwich instead of gingerbread.
So is cm9 stable enough, i mean like for daily use. And yeah i don't want to haggle everyday searching for something which broke??
If you want something 'stable for daily use', buy something else.
You could always wait until Q2 when all these new super tablets come out.
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So is cm9 stable enough, i mean like for daily use. And yeah i don't want to haggle everyday searching for something which broke??
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Its an alpha so expect bugs, the biggest one for me is wifi can be buggy. But the nice thing about the Touchpad is it dual boots so you can always use WebOS.
samy.3660 said:
hi,
i am about 32gb hp touchpad for 300usd.
So my question is
1. can it run gingerbread totally stable as in for daily use.
2. what about the infamous battery drain and dead issue, does it hamper all the touchpad.
Please answer in all honesty,
Thanks
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Also, $300 seems pricey. I snagged a 16GB with case and charging dock for $220 locally. You can get 32 gb's used on eBay for under $250. Loving CM9...very, very usable for a daily driver.
CM9 Alpha 2 has been my daily driver since it was released and I haven't had any major problems.
Go with ICS. I got mine about a month ago and loaded CM7, thinking it was more stable. After the Alpha 2 release last week I decided to go to ICS/CM9, and it has been great. It really is less buggy, and as someone else said... before I felt like it was just a big phone, now it feels like a real tablet. I haven't had any issues in 3 days running ICS, and I did have some general lag/force close errors regularly with CM7.
Plus, you get WebOS too! WebOS doesn't have much in the way of apps, but the OS is beauty, it has great e-mail, web browsing is fine, the best Facebook app there is... and multi-tasking!
I just moved from CM7 A3.5 to CM9 A2 and after tinkering have almost all of the "bugs" worked out that affected me. Having said that, like the others have said, this is an Alpha build and does have some issues, but if you want a TP w/Android, I'd go the CM9 (ICS 4.0.x) route. My TP seems like a new device under CM9 and that makes me willing to work through the bugs and future updates. For the price of a TP, I think it's worth living w/the growing pains.
I have been running CM9 as a daily driver since the first (0.5) alpha. It was immediately buttery smooth, stable, and functional except hardware decoded video (HD YouTube and Netflix). Alpha 2 fixes that. The only thing left I know of is the camera doesn't work. But that's a non-issue to me.
As far as wifi. Those answers will vary. I had nothing but issues with wifi on CM7. But haven't had a single wifi issue with CM9. Literally not a single one. I think its router based more than anything else. If you get issues I think changing the wifi channel on your router will fix it. But, I'm not sure as I've never had the problem.
Like others said CM7 is just like a blown up phone. I found it unusable. I used webOS instead. webOS isn't all bad. Its intuitive, elegant, smooth and stable. Its only lacking on the app support.
It depends on your use. CM9 is definately stable enough for a daily driver for me, but when my sister asked what <$200 tablet to buy I told her to get a Kindle Fire, even though TouchPads run locally less than that for a 16 GB. Its not perfect, and the development is fast paced. I would predict anyone that knows enough to find this website would be comfortable with it on a daily basis. For the last 2-3 weeks the only time I power cycle my touchpad is to flash a new ROM. I also easily get 8ish hours of screen on, streaming movie battery life. Days and days of standby.
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Well for three hundred you could just get a Tegra 2 tablet. A200, or a A500 go around two fifty
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For 300$ I would spend a little more for the Acer A200 that just arrived last month. My friend bought one last week for 330$(16gb with expandable sd memory)and it has been updated to ICS. It is great for web browsing and video . No headaches with constant tweaking and updating.
BUT if you like to tweak and customize your device than I would recommend the Touchpad, since it has two operating systems and recieving lots of support from developers.
I would shop around, $300 is robbery. I am in Canada and so far this month, for family and friends, I have bought a 32gb with Touchstone, case and wireless keyboard for $250, a 32gb with Touchstone and case for $200 and a 16gb for $180.
dude bad thing is in India everything is 100 dollars more than other countries. Shame on the government for this price hikes
i would go with ICS CM9 as well. running A2 since day one of its release. no problems as daily use. surfing the web, reading, online media. all good. pretty decent battery. i charge it every 2-3 days with about 2-4 hours of use everyday. good luck on your find
Running CM7 now and want to try ICS but see several threads, which do you all recommend?
I've been running CM9 for about a week and it's been great so far. I haven't noticed any real bugs at all so far. I highly recommend it
Hello
My doubt is simple, i have a chance to aquire a 32gb black HP touchpad, 1 yo (still 1 year warranty) in perfect condition, for 200€.
Given the state of Android on this tab, would you advise me to buy it ?
For 200 eurodollars. Prob not. Wait and get the Asus/Google tablet for 199 new.
I also found a Viewsonic 10S for the same amount.
Highly confused... also, those 199$ will translate into 400€ back home
Trust me...
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I also found a Viewsonic 10S for the same amount.
Highly confused... also, those 199$ will translate into 400€ back home
Trust me...
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I got a 32gb for 195 USD shipped from someone on ebay
Everything gets a little more expensive after crossing european borders.
So i'm quite happy if i can get either of them from 200€...
Just need to ear reasonable people on the status of Android for the HP TP...
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Everything gets a little more expensive after crossing european borders.
So i'm quite happy if i can get either of them from 200€...
Just need to ear reasonable people on the status of Android for the HP TP...
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all in all its the best tablet I have ever gotten. I have not even put android on it yet
I would recommend it at that price. Granted, the TP is EOL, but currently, in my opinion, it is one of the best tablets on the market for its price thanks to the great development community.
Just my .02
I had an Asus transformer I bought for my wife. I had to sell it after comparing it to my TouchPad. The Touchpad blew it out of the water speed wise. I was appalled. I am not a big supporter of Tegra chips and I know most Tablet manufactures used them because of their low price point where as the TI chip in the TP is a little speed demon. I am sure the GPU on the Tegra is better but I couldn't tell when comparing games except that the Touchpad ran them sooo much smoother with what looked like a higher FPS.
Also it was either one of the first or the first tablet to get ICS so you have amazing support on the device even though its as dead as a zombie
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I had an Asus transformer I bought for my wife. I had to sell it after comparing it to my TouchPad. The Touchpad blew it out of the water speed wise. I was appalled. I am not a big supporter of Tegra chips and I know most Tablet manufactures used them because of their low price point where as the TI chip in the TP is a little speed demon. I am sure the GPU on the Tegra is better but I couldn't tell when comparing games except that the Touchpad ran them sooo much smoother with what looked like a higher FPS.
Also it was either one of the first or the first tablet to get ICS so you have amazing support on the device even though its as dead as a zombie
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TouchPad has a Qualcomm (8060) chip, not TI.
But as for your question, the TouchPad is just OK in my opinion. I tend to use my computer and Galaxy Nexus over it for most activities. There is a very select few times that I prefer it over other devices.
That being said, and assuming you have a reason to use it more than me, it's a decent choice. Especially at it's price point. Android on it is astonishing, it's extremely quick in real world performance, and you have the option of using webOS. My biggest gripe by far is the screen. It's unbearably low-res in my opinion. It looks quiet pixelated.
Just my 2 cents.
I now stand on a dillema:
I can got either a Touchpad, or a Viewsonic 10S for the same price, same conditions.
Both have their pros and cons... And i can hardly get a good review on Touchpad's Android, or the Viewsonic's Android (ICS)...
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I now stand on a dillema:
I can got either a Touchpad, or a Viewsonic 10S for the same price, same conditions.
Both have their pros and cons... And i can hardly get a good review on Touchpad's Android, or the Viewsonic's Android (ICS)...
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i don't know the specs on the viewsonic but if same specs and price, i'd go for the viewsonic
In my honest opinion i absolutely love my touchpad. There is nothing that i can't do on it. I have it set up with both webos and cm9. Webos is slightly better in battery life, but i guess i never really notice it because i always boot into cm9. Everything i need as a daily driver words in cm9. I watch netflix on it daily and all other youtube videos. games are great as well. The only time i boot into webos is when i need to make a skype call, other than that im always on android. First of all, its really easy put ice cream sandwich on it, second...threres no need for a second. Its a great tablet no matter what os you run on it. And the best part is all of the developers that support and use our very loved tablet. Granted i only payed $220 for my touchpad, but knowing what i know now, i would have easily payed $400. You get the best of both worlds, webos is an AMAZING os(besides the limitation on apps), and android is decent(but has most the apps). So i say go for the touchpad and enjoy it!
my TouchPad has replaced every laptop I own for my go to choice for couch surfing etc. Running CM9 its by far the best Tablet I've played with - and since I was lucky enough to get my 32GB for $150 in the original fire sale - for me - the price can't be beat by anything out there these days. I just even installed TexTab so I can send and receive SMS messages from my TP (connected through bluetooth to my phone) saving me battery life on my phone as well.
I've been running Android on it since it was first made available - I've never gone back to WebOS at all.
I have used 3 different Android ICS Roms on my TP. Amazing. Fast, smooth, stable (even though ICS is still technically an Alpha release). The only things that WebOS has over Android at this point is functional camera and microphone (needed for Skype) and better battery life. When WebOS is put in sleep mode it uses virtually no battery that I can detect. Android in sleep mode still uses about 1% per hour.
I find myself using Android at least 90% of the time. And I disagree with the previous post about the screen resolution. I find it to be quite good actually.
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i don't know the specs on the viewsonic but if same specs and price, i'd go for the viewsonic
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This is pure specs, not benchmarks. Also, the touchpad is refered running WebOS, and not CM9. But you can still check the specs... the 3G is a bonus, guranteed.
But i belive the touchpad will be alot faster...
http://www.91mobiles.com/compare/ViewSonic/ViewPad+10s/vs/HP+Mobile/TouchPad.html
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This is pure specs, not benchmarks. Also, the touchpad is refered running WebOS, and not CM9. But you can still check the specs... the 3G is a bonus, guranteed.
But i belive the touchpad will be alot faster...
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If you're buying a tablet, I'm of the opinion that the quality of the screen should be the first concern, and the Viewsonic has a terrible screen in comparison to the Touchpad. The Touchpad should be the same speed or faster, and both have ICS. Just think, you're going to be staring at the screen the whole time and at different angles. The Viewsonic's screen will wash out if you hold it the wrong way, the Touchpad's won't.
I'm glad to see so much support of the Touchpad in this forum. I just got mine yesterday and sadly the audiojack is busted so off it goes again to HP. Someday soon I'll have it back and get to see what all this fuss is about!
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If you're buying a tablet, I'm of the opinion that the quality of the screen should be the first concern, and the Viewsonic has a terrible screen in comparison to the Touchpad. The Touchpad should be the same speed or faster, and both have ICS. Just think, you're going to be staring at the screen the whole time and at different angles. The Viewsonic's screen will wash out if you hold it the wrong way, the Touchpad's won't.
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True enough. The TP screen has to be better
But both have it's pros and cons, for example, the TouchPad does not have HDMI out.
I'll have to think about it...
I've had mine since Dec. (my first tablet and Android device) and I could not be happier.
Right now I cant see me not having one. I spend much less time in front of my pc now.
It takes care of most of my browsing, news and book reading, and a bit of arcade gaming.
As others said earlier, the only thing missing is the mic and camera (and wifi probs for some)... and if theyre really needed, you can simply boot into WebOS
while it is still in an early aplha phase, it's incredbily stable. More so than a beta release ics rom on my phone. Bar the mic and camera, everything is near on perfect. I picked up my touchpad for 150euro, so i can't really complain.
just was given a hp tp. i currently own a ipad 1. i want to sell one of the... the ipad will sell for more. How does a hp tp on cm9 compare? iIuse the ipaf for web browsing and YouTube only.. sometimes hulu and a couple games.
The best thing I like is the battery. iI charge it onceevery few weeks. It just never dies. how does the tp compare?
keep whichever you are happier with
touch pad for the win. tp with cm9 blows the doors off a first gen ipad hands down. there isnt even room for argument. i can go into all the specifics and details but just do the right thing and sell the icrap.
Agreed!
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if battery life is a big deal and you don't do much with a tablet.. keep the ipad.. you will not be happy with battery of the hptp
I can't stand Apple products because of their restrictions and how the company is run (patent trolls), so I'd probably take a TP over an iPad 4 (if I had to use them and couldn't sell). But from a neutral point of view here is my opinion.
The 1st iPad is not receiving updates anymore, its stuck on iOS 5. But there is a vast library of apps that will run on it but I'm not sure how the Apple ecosystem works with unsupported devices. Meaning if an app gets a new version that requires iOS6 is the iOS5 version still available or does it get pulled, on Android its up to the dev. Officially the Touchpad is also done receiving updates and WebOS has a lot fewer apps than iOS. Its great for Youtube and web surfing as both WebOS and Android have Adobe Flash. Flash Android and you'll get many more apps but it won't be as stable of an OS so you may have to deal with some random reboots and battery drain, but its not that bad.
For pure hardware, the Touchpad is much better than the 1st iPad. It has much more RAM, a camera, and a dual core processor. If you want something with a stable OS and a lot of apps keep the iPad. If you want something that runs a stable OS with limited apps plus the ability to boot other ROMs with more apps and customizability, go for the Touchpad. For me, half the fun of the Touchpad/Android is the ability to tinker and customize.
Stick with the ipad, it'll feel faster. While the hardware in the TP is better than the ipad 1, Apple really has the 60fps-everything-drawn-by-GPU thing going for it, which makes everything else feel dirt slow in comparison. Better specs don't mean much when the experience is subpar.
I think the iPad 1s have had statistically better scores on graphics benchmarks compared to many of the top performing android tablets, probably because of it's software and anti-multitask (don't quote me on that). If you don't want to think too much or love the 3rd party support keep the iPad. But the touchpad does wonders for the price since it has better hardware besides graphics. Plus with camera almost fully functional on cm9 you can oovoo and stuff
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Stick with the ipad, it'll feel faster. While the hardware in the TP is better than the ipad 1, Apple really has the 60fps-everything-drawn-by-GPU thing going for it, which makes everything else feel dirt slow in comparison. Better specs don't mean much when the experience is subpar.
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I'd disagree. The Touchpad is very quick and smooth. I wouldn't say it feels like dirt compared to an iPad 1. Far from it.
If you want a 100% "no thought no effort" experience, stick with the iPad. The TouchPad still has some "quirks" though it is 99% there.
If you prefer more free apps and Google's services, then you're a Droidhead and you'll put up with that 1% of "issues" and keep the TouchPad.
The big advantage to the touchpad is dual booting, webos and Android.
You won't get good battery life in android, but you will in webos.
There are still cm9 nightlies being put out for the touch pad, even though now they are more like weeklies. Dorregaray has put out a camera patch that works with the official nightlies, so now you have a camera available for Android.
If all you'll be using it for is emails, websurfing and video watching, I would recommend the touchpad. You can do all that perfectly well in webos and have a great battery life. If you want a better selection of apps, then use android, even though the battery life won't be as good.
You need to know more techie stuff with the touch pad, whereas the iPad just works, as the apple adds say. But I enjoy the touch pad much more than the iPad. I have access to 2 touch pads and 2 iPads, so I have compared them before.
Whatever decision you make you'll be fine. They're both good tablets.
Good luck.
the dual boot webos/droid is a big advantage, as previously stated.
when im home i use droid for all features.. networking, printers etc..but battery life is bad..
if i take hptp out, i use webos to use the internet, email internet radio etc..
plus, i have kalemsoft player to let me access my home pc media to watch movies etc... and still get good battery life..i can video skype ..
I tried to keep up with WebOS but after a year or so I just gave up. I haven't booted to WebOS in some time now. I own an iPhone 4 and two Android Tablets. I've come to prefer the flexibility that Android give you and have been able to do anything I do on my iPhone on my tablets. If all the OP is doing is what they described, it doesn't really matter what tablet they keep but it's nice to know that there is still custom ROM development going on with the HP Touchpad and I personally think it is a lot more fun to own a tablet that keeps me interested in development, flashing new ROM's and keeping up with the forums.
Stick with iPad 1 and just jailbreak for added functions
I say get sell the ipad ... iOS has become so basic if u happen to be under 13 stick with the basics that apple gives you with their cheap hardware but I got to give it to them they know how to make a lot out of their products... I personally will sell both and get a galaxy note 10 or a Asus transformer
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sell both of them, acquire ipad2 or an asus tf300 lol. I'm an android guy, but I do recognize that the ipad is very smooth and really good for people who don't like to tinker, or aren't very tech savvy. My parents have an ipad2 and it's still a very good tablet, and its buttery smooth.
The asus tf300 prices are dropping fast, and a really good bargain for what you get (micro SD slot, quad-core tegra 3, fast updates from asus, good screen). If you like to tinker a bit, you'll like the tf300.
CM9 has gotten so mature on the Touchpad I sold my iPad3 for it.
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iIuse the ipaf for web browsing and YouTube only.. sometimes hulu and a couple games.
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Pretty basic needs-
1) iOS Safari will feel pretty smooth and is quite fast- the stock AOSP browser for CM9/10 is also quite good (nice features like incognito / auto-login / request desktop site). You also have other options on Android (Dolphin is fastest, has nice gestures. Chrome has nice sync features, seems a little buggy though (may have been fixed in yesterday's update).
2) The Android Youtube app is phenomenal far superior to anything available on iOS (Protube doesn't come close).
3) Games run surprisingly well on the Touchpad. Check out Dead Trigger- you will be impressed!
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The best thing I like is the battery. iI charge it onceevery few weeks. It just never dies. how does the tp compare?
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Battery isn't bad. I would say its definitely not the iPad's equal, but its reasonable and the Touchstone is very nice.
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So to answer your question, based on your needs and my experience I would sell the iPad. Install -SGA-'s custom ROMs or try out Jelly Bean. The community's dedication to the HP Touchpad has really won me over to Android. Very impressed to say the least.
If optimized (supercharged, 1.5ghz, 30-40% up threshold in setcpu) the Touchpad with CM10 will completely outperform the 1st iPad in general web browsing, it is much closer to (even surpassing) the iPad 2. Not to mention it has 4x the amount of ram of the iPad 1 and 2x the amount of the iPad2, that means more tabs and apps open without reloading when switching from app to app.
The app store is an advantage for the iPad as there are still a lot more apps compared to the Play store. Also, the battery on the Touchpad is not going to come close to any iPad.
I know that benchmarks don't usually mean much but here are a few anyway..
1.7ghz PA 2.99
And to compare with a recent some recent tests by Toms Hardware and AnandTech
The Touchpad has really improved over the last few months.
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Stick with the ipad, it'll feel faster. While the hardware in the TP is better than the ipad 1, Apple really has the 60fps-everything-drawn-by-GPU thing going for it, which makes everything else feel dirt slow in comparison. Better specs don't mean much when the experience is subpar.
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This has been almost completely fixed with JellyBean.
twentythreemx said:
just was given a hp tp. i currently own a ipad 1. i want to sell one of the... the ipad will sell for more. How does a hp tp on cm9 compare? iIuse the ipaf for web browsing and YouTube only.. sometimes hulu and a couple games.
The best thing I like is the battery. iI charge it onceevery few weeks. It just never dies. how does the tp compare?
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I like my touchpad as I have an android phone so I can use all the same google apps on both abd don't mind putting the tp on the charger every other day. My brother and his wife both have macbooks and iphones so they took their touchpads back and purchased ipads.