About to buy hp touchpad - TouchPad General

hi,
i am about 32gb hp touchpad for 300usd.
So my question is
1. can it run gingerbread totally stable as in for daily use.
2. what about the infamous battery drain and dead issue, does it hamper all the touchpad.
Please answer in all honesty,
Thanks

I believe cm7 was pretty darn solid for the time I used it. Although cm7 support has pretty much faded away, the current focus now is cm9 which I'm running right now. With a few wifi hiccups here and there, it runs just as well. I'd go with cm9.
I have not had the battery falter on me since moving to cm9. It used to be that it'd take forever to charge up once dead, then try to boot up and then die again (and loop), but not anymore. Battery life for me is around 8-9 hours of FULL time use, I'm talkin screen on the entire time and the whole 9 yards.
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Ok, so, gingerbread isn't 100% stable, but it works just well. However, if you will download flash player on it and watch youtube through web browser, you'll get blocky videos.
If I were you, I would install ice cream sandwich (android 4.0) on it because it is much more usable in terms of browsing, watching movies and you get a real tablet experience on it.
With gingerbread you seem like you are holding a huge phone, which has no 3g...
So to be honest I would pick ice cream sandwich instead of gingerbread.

So is cm9 stable enough, i mean like for daily use. And yeah i don't want to haggle everyday searching for something which broke??

If you want something 'stable for daily use', buy something else.

You could always wait until Q2 when all these new super tablets come out.
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samy.3660 said:
So is cm9 stable enough, i mean like for daily use. And yeah i don't want to haggle everyday searching for something which broke??
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Its an alpha so expect bugs, the biggest one for me is wifi can be buggy. But the nice thing about the Touchpad is it dual boots so you can always use WebOS.

samy.3660 said:
hi,
i am about 32gb hp touchpad for 300usd.
So my question is
1. can it run gingerbread totally stable as in for daily use.
2. what about the infamous battery drain and dead issue, does it hamper all the touchpad.
Please answer in all honesty,
Thanks
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Also, $300 seems pricey. I snagged a 16GB with case and charging dock for $220 locally. You can get 32 gb's used on eBay for under $250. Loving CM9...very, very usable for a daily driver.

CM9 Alpha 2 has been my daily driver since it was released and I haven't had any major problems.

Go with ICS. I got mine about a month ago and loaded CM7, thinking it was more stable. After the Alpha 2 release last week I decided to go to ICS/CM9, and it has been great. It really is less buggy, and as someone else said... before I felt like it was just a big phone, now it feels like a real tablet. I haven't had any issues in 3 days running ICS, and I did have some general lag/force close errors regularly with CM7.
Plus, you get WebOS too! WebOS doesn't have much in the way of apps, but the OS is beauty, it has great e-mail, web browsing is fine, the best Facebook app there is... and multi-tasking!

I just moved from CM7 A3.5 to CM9 A2 and after tinkering have almost all of the "bugs" worked out that affected me. Having said that, like the others have said, this is an Alpha build and does have some issues, but if you want a TP w/Android, I'd go the CM9 (ICS 4.0.x) route. My TP seems like a new device under CM9 and that makes me willing to work through the bugs and future updates. For the price of a TP, I think it's worth living w/the growing pains.

I have been running CM9 as a daily driver since the first (0.5) alpha. It was immediately buttery smooth, stable, and functional except hardware decoded video (HD YouTube and Netflix). Alpha 2 fixes that. The only thing left I know of is the camera doesn't work. But that's a non-issue to me.
As far as wifi. Those answers will vary. I had nothing but issues with wifi on CM7. But haven't had a single wifi issue with CM9. Literally not a single one. I think its router based more than anything else. If you get issues I think changing the wifi channel on your router will fix it. But, I'm not sure as I've never had the problem.
Like others said CM7 is just like a blown up phone. I found it unusable. I used webOS instead. webOS isn't all bad. Its intuitive, elegant, smooth and stable. Its only lacking on the app support.
It depends on your use. CM9 is definately stable enough for a daily driver for me, but when my sister asked what <$200 tablet to buy I told her to get a Kindle Fire, even though TouchPads run locally less than that for a 16 GB. Its not perfect, and the development is fast paced. I would predict anyone that knows enough to find this website would be comfortable with it on a daily basis. For the last 2-3 weeks the only time I power cycle my touchpad is to flash a new ROM. I also easily get 8ish hours of screen on, streaming movie battery life. Days and days of standby.
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Well for three hundred you could just get a Tegra 2 tablet. A200, or a A500 go around two fifty
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For 300$ I would spend a little more for the Acer A200 that just arrived last month. My friend bought one last week for 330$(16gb with expandable sd memory)and it has been updated to ICS. It is great for web browsing and video . No headaches with constant tweaking and updating.
BUT if you like to tweak and customize your device than I would recommend the Touchpad, since it has two operating systems and recieving lots of support from developers.

I would shop around, $300 is robbery. I am in Canada and so far this month, for family and friends, I have bought a 32gb with Touchstone, case and wireless keyboard for $250, a 32gb with Touchstone and case for $200 and a 16gb for $180.

dude bad thing is in India everything is 100 dollars more than other countries. Shame on the government for this price hikes

i would go with ICS CM9 as well. running A2 since day one of its release. no problems as daily use. surfing the web, reading, online media. all good. pretty decent battery. i charge it every 2-3 days with about 2-4 hours of use everyday. good luck on your find

Running CM7 now and want to try ICS but see several threads, which do you all recommend?

I've been running CM9 for about a week and it's been great so far. I haven't noticed any real bugs at all so far. I highly recommend it

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Do You Like Your Gtab ??

Just ordered one although i was a bit hesitant after reading a lot of negative feedback on them. After further investigation it seemed as though most of the complaints were related to the factory software ?? ive done a bunch of reading and plan on modding it from day one. From what ive gathered you first load clockworkmod, then do a backup, then load your rom and lastly root if necessary (if the rom isnt already) only thing i havnt decided on is which rom. I see there are quite a few available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874258 but honestly i wouldnt mind some up to date opinions on which is working best.
And as the title asks, Do You Like Your Gtablet ??
Make sure you know what bootloader is on your G Tablet BEFORE you start flashing a new ROM! In the reading I have done to date, there are two different bootloader versions out there; 1.1 and 1.2. I thought I was good to go and started to install ClockWorkMod and Cyanogenmod 7 shortly after unboxing. Big mistake. It took a long, long time and tons of research before I was finally able to get it back to a working state.
The links below are a great place to start reading. The 4th link is a guide detailing the steps I went through to restore the G Tablet.
Viewsonic GTablet For Dummies
A New User's Guide to modding your GTablet device
[FAQ] Viewsonic G-Tablet ROMs Frequently Asked Questions (READ THIS FIRST)
Viewsonic G-Tablet 1.1 ROM Development
Viewsonic G-Tablet 1.2 ROM Development
Guide - Restore G Tablet after a Failed Recovery Mode "update.zip"
Personally I like the G Tablet. Sure, it might not have the polish of some of the "high end" tablets, but for the price I think it is a good deal. Of course the stock ROM leaves much to be desired.
Shortly after getting the G Tablet restored, I have been running roebeet's Brilliant Corners ROM with VTL.launcher. I like both alot.
Hope this helps. Have fun!
djab67
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Well thats good to know about the bootloader, i hadnt noticed anything on that. Sounds like you just saved me a major headache.
I'll read all the links supplied, thanks for that. i dont mind doing my homework i just got to a point before there where i felt like i was going around and round in circles lol
I bought one of the flytouch 3's first and was kinda disappointed, it had decent functionality with the tim5a rom but the resistive screens are junk. The gtablet is the cheapest capacative touch 10" tablet i could find and paired with the tegra 2 gpu, 512mb ram and 16gb internal, not even mentioning the other options, it seemed like a steal at $269 with free shipping from tigerdirect.
Ill look into the roebeet's Brilliant Corners ROM with VTL.launcher and give that one a try, is that one of the most recently developed roms for this tab ?
Thanks again...
I agree, it is a good deal for the features included. I really don't have any medium or major complaints with a custom ROM installed. There are some minor things I would like to see improved, but those probably would have pushed the price up.
Brilliant Corners is fairly recent, the last build was on 5/20. It is froyo based, so it isn't the latest and greatest out there, but I find it highly useable and stable. There are newer honeycomb based ROMs available here on xda and at the links I sent in the last post. I tried a couple honeycomb versions, but at the time they didn't seem stable enough (the G Tablet was a birthday gift for my wife, so I could not afford periodic crashing/reboots).
To clarify; Brilliant Corners does not come with the VTL.launcher. I downloaded VTL.launcher here on xda (link below).
I would guess that your G Tablet will come with bootloader 1.2, but if it does come with 1.1 the list below has a link to another guide on upgrading from 1.1 to 1.2.
[APP][LAUNCHER] VTL.Launcher 1.6.5 (Tablet Oriented Launcher) [updated 05.19.11]
[GUIDE] Fool proof install for stock 4349 (1.1 to 1.2 upgrade path)
djab67
I love it. I've gone around to different stores to tryout several of the popular new tablets. I wasn't impressed by any of them. My modded gtab seemed faster than most of them, and I only paid $259.
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I have had my gtab for a few months and I enjoy it. have fun and try the different ROM's just be sure to learn how to use NVflash it will be your freind. and there are many helpful people here with alot of knowlage always do a search in the forum many questions have an answer already
I like mine, but dislike the display intensely.
It it what it is, a now somewhat dated (yes, 9 months is forever in the tech world) first generation tegra-2 android tablet with NO manufacturer support.
For $200 or so, it's a not a bad way to PLAY with android tablets, and if you like hacking/modding its a good platform for that.
If you could get a well-supported Honeycomb-based tablet with similar specs and a real display, for $100 more, you'd be nuts not to do so.
I'm running gtabcomb (Honeycomb) on mine. And I really do like it, and use it daily. I guess I didn't really expect to use it as much as I am, because if I did, I would have paid the extra $100 or so and gotten something with a better display.
I like mine as well. I'm running Flashback at the moment. I had gotten mine used off from eBay with Bottle of Smoke on it. I flashed it back to stock and immediately found out why everyone complained about it.
I've tried the ASOP gHarmony GB and really like that one as well, though I've been unable to get the latest loaded.
For me the tablet is great because I like to tinker with it. Last weekend I told my wife, "I'm going to load a new ROM onto my tablet." She asked, "Why?" I didn't have a good answer for her as it seemed seemed self-explanatory.
If someone doesn't want to fiddle with the thing I wouldn't recommend it (thought it is years ahead of the ZT-180 that I had before this! )
ByteWrencher
I am currently in love with GtabComb.
I have used several ROMs since over the past 6 months. To me GtabComb feels like a much smoother experience, more responsive to touch scrolling on the home screen and within apps. Really, now that I have my hands on Honeycomb, I just can't go back to Froyo-based ROMs.
While it currently lacks hardware acceleration, which some say would provide better video playback (and gaming, not important to me), I have found the video on GtabComb more than acceptable.
I have only had a few problems with apps loading or installing, but no showstoppers. I don't even remember which apps were issues.
The camera does not work, but since Skype video is not available for any ROM, and other other video chatting solutions do not provide a usable experience for me, this is also not a showstopper.
Have fun!
I like mine.
Mine is great!
Played with a display model at office depot and immediately ordered one (store was out of stock). Been happy with it ever since. The stock software is really bad. I tried out several ROMS and eventually settled with gtabcomb3.2. Once you try Honeycomb, it's hard to go back. My 2cents worth.
schettj said:
I like mine, but dislike the display intensely.
It it what it is, a now somewhat dated (yes, 9 months is forever in the tech world) first generation tegra-2 android tablet with NO manufacturer support.
For $200 or so, it's a not a bad way to PLAY with android tablets, and if you like hacking/modding its a good platform for that.
If you could get a well-supported Honeycomb-based tablet with similar specs and a real display, for $100 more, you'd be nuts not to do so.
I'm running gtabcomb (Honeycomb) on mine. And I really do like it, and use it daily. I guess I didn't really expect to use it as much as I am, because if I did, I would have paid the extra $100 or so and gotten something with a better display.
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What options are available for $100 more that are better hardware wise ? I looked around quite a bit and saw nothing in the $350 area that rivaled the gtab ? thx
digitalcoup said:
I am currently in love with GtabComb.
I have used several ROMs since over the past 6 months. To me GtabComb feels like a much smoother experience, more responsive to touch scrolling on the home screen and within apps. Really, now that I have my hands on Honeycomb, I just can't go back to Froyo-based ROMs.
While it currently lacks hardware acceleration, which some say would provide better video playback (and gaming, not important to me), I have found the video on GtabComb more than acceptable.
I have only had a few problems with apps loading or installing, but no showstoppers. I don't even remember which apps were issues.
The camera does not work, but since Skype video is not available for any ROM, and other other video chatting solutions do not provide a usable experience for me, this is also not a showstopper.
Have fun!
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The latest version of skype ran perfectly on my froyo flytouch tab. To bad to hear the camera doesnt work with gtacomb.
yamahadude9 said:
What options are available for $100 more that are better hardware wise ? I looked around quite a bit and saw nothing in the $350 area that rivaled the gtab ? thx
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i said IF... staples recently had a $100 off any tablet deal that put several of the mid-$400 tablets right in that pricepoint.
Edit: for example, http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...440-with-free-shipping-from-ebay-daily-deals/
Current deal on a new 32GB wifi xoom: $440. Shipped Free. That's within spitting distance of $100 more than the $280 I spent on my gtab. $160 more, might still be worth it. Likely most of these "late first gen/early 2nd gen" tablets with full Honeycomb support will be heading to the $300-$400 pricepoint in the next few months.
schettj said:
i said IF... staples recently had a $100 off any tablet deal that put several of the mid-$400 tablets right in that pricepoint.
Edit: for example, http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...440-with-free-shipping-from-ebay-daily-deals/
Current deal on a new 32GB wifi xoom: $440. Shipped Free. That's within spitting distance of $100 more than the $280 I spent on my gtab. $160 more, might still be worth it. Likely most of these "late first gen/early 2nd gen" tablets with full Honeycomb support will be heading to the $300-$400 pricepoint in the next few months.
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I got ya, i would love to see the xoom's and galaxy tabs come down below $400 but i dont see that happening right off. Not with the cell phone companies using them as leverage to get you to sign a two year contract.
Besides by the time the price comes down there will be something better available again, its a vicious cycle !
Gtab is suppose to be here today, cant wait to try it out !
I like my gtab so far but i have only had it a few days. I have tried several roms so far and i am currently running bottle of smoke and i have to say i like the HC experience better than froyo. Camera wasnt a big deal for me, I got flash and Netflix working so I'm a happy camper.
I have had mine a few days too now and i must say im pretty impressed. The screen sensitivity is great and multitouch works excellent. The image quality is great and ive experienced no lag from the dual core gpu.
Im running brilliant corners (froyo) and its very,very stable, not a single force close on any program. Everything works perfectly, netflix and the market worked right out of the box with bc. I had some issues with games initially, like asphalt hd but thats a vendor problem not the rom or gtab.
I do love my 2 gtabs! 1 is in VEGAn, 1 in GtabComb beta 3.3.
Got them from tigerdirect.com, for $269 a piece. What a steal, and just perfect for my kids! Then bought the Fuse cases, from electroniccrap.com, for $30 a piece. They fit nicely!
I like mine. Running gtabcomb 3.3. I think I still prefer the Asus transformer and probably should have shelled out the extra $100. It is nice having a USB port for flash drives though.
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yeah my gtab surpasses most tablets out now and it was around half of the price! but I would rather have the moto xoom but i am happy with my gtab
I've had my gtab for a little over a month and I'm pretty happy with it. I think like most others on this site that I appreciate the fact that you can play with it and try other ROMs and just tinker with it. It's not a Cadillac gets me where I want to go. Only complaint is in the video playing. Hopefully can get that resolved. I'm thinking of buying another one for my wife.

[Q] Touchpad with android as daily?

Hi guys, i am thinking about to buy me a touchpad and install android on it. Now, my concerns... is it stable enough to use it as a daily driver that way?
Mostly i am watching video and playing games on my tablet right now, and i wonder if the performance with android on touchpad is good enough for my needs?
I also need to know if it has hdmi out?
If there are any big warnings please advert me now, before i make a misstake..if it all right im getting it =)
infexis said:
Hi guys, i am thinking about to buy me a touchpad and install android on it. Now, my concerns... is it stable enough to use it as a daily driver that way?
Mostly i am watching video and playing games on my tablet right now, and i wonder if the performance with android on touchpad is good enough for my needs?
I also need to know if it has hdmi out?
If there are any big warnings please advert me now, before i make a misstake..if it all right im getting it =)
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I'm using my touchpad daily with the CM7 last released alpha build. I use it for videos, games, web browsing, etc. Android runs smooth and I have no issues at all. If you score a touchpad at the right price its an awesome device. If you want to spend more get a galaxy tab or an ipad. As for making a mistake, no one can either encourage or discourage you from that. Good luck with your decision.
Edit: No HDMI out port.
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I've installed it and so far I like it... The sound is choppy and I don't know how to fix it.. However, everything else works great!! I have lots of games like plants vs zombies and it works great!! I also installed dolphin browser and works great!! I have the HTC IME mod keyboard and the landscape looks good and covering the whole screen the horizontal is half screen but works good too.. I like the Android better due to more apps and more things to put..
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Very few issues here as well.
Daily driver, no problem.
I play Contract Killer...and lack of real buttons (home, menu, back, etc.) sometimes gets you locked in the game...however, ending the task gets you back to where you need to be.
I love WebOS, don't get me wrong, but Android has the apps and games I like to play.
infexis said:
Hi guys, i am thinking about to buy me a touchpad and install android on it. Now, my concerns... is it stable enough to use it as a daily driver that way?
Mostly i am watching video and playing games on my tablet right now, and i wonder if the performance with android on touchpad is good enough for my needs?
I also need to know if it has hdmi out?
If there are any big warnings please advert me now, before i make a misstake..if it all right im getting it =)
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Video performance is bad, unless you stick to watching youtube vids.
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I use both CM7 and WebOS. For Flash video and Netflix I boot into WebOS. I use both WebOS and CM7 for music and CM7 for most games, transcoded video, and web blowsing. Love Dolphin HD on CM7, much better than the default browser on WebOS.
You can't go wrong for the price... the harware is very good.
I don't think Netflix works in webOS, but in CM it works great. I got mine not knowing how much I would use it, my wife likes webOS so it was mostly for her. Turns out I use it alot more than I thought I would. I use it to search the web, music, movies and games instead of my laptop most of the time now. It was well worth the purchase.
While it has some minor quirks, its plenty usable as a daily driver. The biggest issue is that the battery life in sleep mode is terrible compared to webOS. It'll get you through a full day of use with moderate usage, so its not a deal breaker.
battery in sleep makes me barf. I wake up friday morning use it a bit, go ona weekend trip and it's dead on Monday.
Meanwhile I wake up on Friday with webOS, leave for the weekend and come back to see my device at like 77%.
Is this just how Android devices are, or is it because the Touchpad still needs some tweaking? And if by tweaking you mean we can get 10-20% better battery life in idle, that's not much. Power consumption needs to be cut in like 1/5th if not 1/10th its current state in idle.
Keep in mind folks that Gingi isn't even officially released. There are a lot of development being done in the shadows. I think it will all work out in the next few months. The source for ICS is released, which does officially support tablets. I would not mind them moving to ICS and skip HC/Gingi all together.
I use Gingerbread on a daily basis. My TP is on the Touchstone 90% of the time, so I don't see the same battery issues as others.

Is an overclocked Touchpad running 4.0 faster than an IPAD 2?

In terms of browser speeds, time to open applications, google maps rendering speeds etc...is the Touchpad overclocked to 1.7 with CM9 running faster or not? thanks
Singhman said:
In terms of browser speeds, time to open applications, google maps rendering speeds etc...is the Touchpad overclocked to 1.7 with CM9 running faster or not? thanks
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I'll venture a guess here, and say no.
I've got a TP running GB, not overclocked. But GB and ICS are both still buggy as hell, which DQ's the TP in such a test.
If you're doing a speed test and you get FC's and reboots, IMO that should count for something.
I'm not trying to slam dev's here. I love the CM guys and everyone who's working so hard to give me Android goodness on the HPTP.
But seriously, do you think you could compare a $100 tablet running 3rd party open source ROMs and software to the leading market standard?!
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I'll venture a guess here, and say no.
I've got a TP running GB, not overclocked. But GB and ICS are both still buggy as hell, which DQ's the TP in such a test.
If you're doing a speed test and you get FC's and reboots, IMO that should count for something.
I'm not trying to slam dev's here. I love the CM guys and everyone who's working so hard to give me Android goodness on the HPTP.
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You dont have ICS so you dont know how smooth ICS actually is in TP.
But seriously, do you think you could compare a $100 tablet running 3rd party open source ROMs and software to the leading market standard?!
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Yes
Singhman said:
In terms of browser speeds, time to open applications, google maps rendering speeds etc...is the Touchpad overclocked to 1.7 with CM9 running faster or not? thanks
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Well, first reply not withstanding, I'm running Xrons 2.9.1 at 1.782GHz and it's as smooth as silk with no FCs, reboots or any other faults.
I had the opportunity of using an iPad and all I can tell you is that the iPad owner was looking a little sick when he tried mine!
I wouldn't swop what I have and when a stable fully working CM9 hits the streets it will only get better.
I've tested them side by side and while browsing Opera Mobile under XRON 2.9 @ 192mhz/1.5ghz (up threshhold @ 40%) the TP was about 80% as fast as the iPad 2 at general responsiveness (zooming, scrolling through pages on heavy sites), and a tie at loading pages - some loaded faster on the TP and vice versa.
I also tried the stock XRON browser, but it was too choppy and there was really no comparison.
Google Maps is much faster on the iPad 2 with less jumpiness and is overall just smoother.
Strangely, Google Earth feels much more fluid on the Touchpad with smoother zooming/panning and faster loading.
General responsiveness probably goes to the iPad 2, the home screen is just smoother and more responsive compared to every launcher I tried (VTL, ADW, SPB Shell 3D, Launcher Pro and a few others), and apps tend to open faster.
Netflix is much better on the iPad 2, video is sharper with less compression and scrolling is much smoother.. Not sure if it is playing HD but there is a noticeable difference for sure.
Things have changed quite a bit on ICS and it could be closer now.
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You dont have ICS so you dont know how smooth ICS actually is in TP.
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It's an Alpha build. If it were in Beta, or out of Beta, I'd consider it. But there are certain implications associated with the Alpha stages of software builds.
iPad 2's GPU outright slays all android devices, so as far as UI you're not going to find a device that even comes close that's out right now, including the Transformer Prime /:
I've heard good things about the Nexus Tablet though.....
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While I love my HP TouchPad I have to tell you that nothing can touch the current A5 CPU/GPU the iPad 2 uses. It's amazing to say the least. But the TouchPad is good for lots of other things
I've compared my TP (both WebOS and Alpha 3 CM7) to my cousin's iPad 2 and the browsing experience is much better on the iPad. But like sean said, if ICS were in beta or even out then it would be a close battle. I'm running an ICS beta on my Samsung Fascinate and it's the most beautiful rom I've ever played with. Hopefully the TP gets to that same level.
Its hard to compare since they are running 2 completely different operating systems and browsers. Chances are the iPad2 will be faster only because its running a stable OS (I'm not saying Android is unstable, just that its not OEM).
But with the Touchpad you get decent hardware for a lot cheaper and you can run CM.
I'm not really sure where comments like 'buggy as hell' are coming from or what kind of experience other people are having, or apparently not having with some people not having tried and based on assupmtion, but the CM9 runs really smooth for me. The only area where it doesn't is Flash based video, which is a known issue due to the current lack of hardware acceleration.
Alpha is just a word. Some developers are very cautious and prefer to keep things in alpha and beta stages as long as possible to ensure everything is working as it should while others will just push anything out the door.
CM9 seems to run faster on the whole and is a much more responsive experience for me than CM7. I really haven't had any major issues either.
Honestly, even though it's an 'alpha' I've had no problems. On the other hand, I've definitely had the experience of dealing with lots of problems for final release products that I've paid for.
_Motoki_ said:
I'm not really sure where comments like 'buggy as hell' are coming from or what kind of experience other people are having, or apparently not having with some people not having tried and based on assupmtion, but the CM9 runs really smooth for me. The only area where it doesn't is Flash based video, which is a known issue due to the current lack of hardware acceleration.
Alpha is just a word. Some developers are very cautious and prefer to keep things in alpha and beta stages as long as possible to ensure everything is working as it should while others will just push anything out the door.
CM9 seems to run faster on the whole and is a much more responsive experience for me than CM7. I really haven't had any major issues either.
Honestly, even though it's an 'alpha' I've had no problems. On the other hand, I've definitely had the experience of dealing with lots of problems for final release products that I've paid for.
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Thanks!
I find the ICS browser on the Touchpad to be great. Its the first all around great browser I've used in Android in terms of scrolling experience, UI, etc.
_Motoki_ said:
I'm not really sure where comments like 'buggy as hell' are coming from or what kind of experience other people are having, or apparently not having with some people not having tried and based on assupmtion, but the CM9 runs really smooth for me. The only area where it doesn't is Flash based video, which is a known issue due to the current lack of hardware acceleration.
Alpha is just a word. Some developers are very cautious and prefer to keep things in alpha and beta stages as long as possible to ensure everything is working as it should while others will just push anything out the door.
CM9 seems to run faster on the whole and is a much more responsive experience for me than CM7. I really haven't had any major issues either.
Honestly, even though it's an 'alpha' I've had no problems. On the other hand, I've definitely had the experience of dealing with lots of problems for final release products that I've paid for.
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I more or less agree.
I've had few major problems with CM9a0.5. I'd say it is at least as stable as CM7, and WiFi has actually been more stable for me compared to XRON/CM7 (although still not perfect). And of course the "tablet" experience of ICS is worlds ahead of GB.
The biggest downside to CM9 is the lack of video acceleration therefore lack of Netflix/Youtube HD and high bitrate 720p/1080p videos.
I only tried overclocking my cm9 touch pad with setCPU once and it crashed. Have not tried it since.
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ICS>iOS 'nuff said.
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Tykin said:
I only tried overclocking my cm9 touch pad with setCPU once and it crashed. Have not tried it since.
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ICS>iOS 'nuff said.
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^^this
cm9 is just awsome. i wish i could get rid of the webOS part because it's a waste of space.
Friend at work as a Ipad2. Paid regular price for it. I took my TP in one day (with cm7) and again the other day (now with cm9). I think she feels rather foolish paying as much as she did and then seeing what I can all do with my $150 tablet...
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Friend at work as a Ipad2. Paid regular price for it. I took my TP in one day (with cm7) and again the other day (now with cm9). I think she feels rather foolish paying as much as she did and then seeing what I can all do with my $150 tablet...
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Probably not. Given the level of effort required for installation, maintenance, and learning the more technical side of things, she'd most likely stick with the iPad.
I dont know your work friend, but that's my guess.
People naturally think that because you managed to get the TP up and running with ICS, that it was worthless getting an iPad. But those people most likely are the same one's that don't have the knowledge to really enjoy the TP, not to mention put the effort into keeping it that way. And at the current state (not even to Alpha 1), it's no comparison.
i payed less than $100 for my touchpad............it now has ICS, it's as fast as any tablet on the market, and has great developmental support. why the hell would i want to pay $500 for another tablet? it's not just ipad, i had tossed around the idea of getting a transformer prime for a while and probably would have one if they weren't so hard to get. then ics hit the touchpad and well the rest is history. i'm happy now. but that's just me and my "$100 fast as hell ICS tablet" talkin.
The thing most people don't understand is if it's this close to an ipad WITHOUT hardware acceleration. It'll straight blow an ipad 2 out of the water when we get it. ICS is more like iOS in that it has hardware accelerated ui. Android never offered that before, which is why we have compensated with faster and more powerful processors up until this point.
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Please help me decide...

Hey guys, so I can land an excellent condition 16gb Touchpad for $160 today if I decide to. My question is, should I?
Just some quick background, my girlfriend has the original iPad which I have access to. I have a HTC Rezound phone that I have rooted. I would most definitely be buying this to root and just have a device that is bigger than my phone when I want to watch YouTube videos, surf the net while on the couch, play some games, etc.
I see that CM7 and CM9 is compatible with the Touchpad. I also see that CM9 renders the device not fully functional (mic, camera). I honestly would rarely use the mic or camera, so it's no biggie there. My question however is how the device other than those things functions with CM9? Is it a smooth experience? Does everything else pretty much work? Will CM9 get to a point where everything works great?
I just want to see if I should buy this or another budget tablet like the Fire or any upcoming ones.
Any advice would be great, thanks!
I recommend going for it if you want a tablet. I just got mine a week ago and I dont even pick up my phone anymore. Both webOS and CM9 on the Touchpad are super smooth. Yes, the mic and camera dont work but, like you, I dont need those. Android on the Touchpad is fairly new and with all the popularity its been getting lately, the CyanogenMod team has made it official on their site so the development for it wont be done anytime soon.
As far as webOS, I love that OS as well. Its just a shame there isnt as much development for it as of right now. But the OS is going open source so hopefully that will get some development going on it. Its really nice to dual boot both operating systems though and have a choice.
I dont think you would regret it though. I bought the 32GB version though since I knew I was going to install android on it. You might want to see if others say 16GB is enough for putting Android on it.
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I recommend going for it if you want a tablet. I just got mine a week ago and I dont even pick up my phone anymore. Both webOS and CM9 on the Touchpad are super smooth. Yes, the mic and camera dont work but, like you, I dont need those. Android on the Touchpad is fairly new and with all the popularity its been getting lately, the CyanogenMod team has made it official on their site so the development for it wont be done anytime soon.
As far as webOS, I love that OS as well. Its just a shame there isnt as much development for it as of right now. But the OS is going open source so hopefully that will get some development going on it. Its really nice to dual boot both operating systems though and have a choice.
I dont think you would regret it though. I bought the 32GB version though since I knew I was going to install android on it. You might want to see if others say 16GB is enough for putting Android on it.
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Thanks a lot for the response! Yeah, I think I am going to pull the trigger on it.
Hmm, I didn't really think about if Android would fit on the 16gb, but I would find it hard to believe if it didn't. But you're right, can anyone else chime in about that?
Thanks!
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Thanks a lot for the response! Yeah, I think I am going to pull the trigger on it.
Hmm, I didn't really think about if Android would fit on the 16gb, but I would find it hard to believe if it didn't. But you're right, can anyone else chime in about that?
Thanks!
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It will for sure fit. But that leaves less room for other stuff you put on it. I currently am down to 20 gigs left out of 32. But I have game roms and game data on there too.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I can land an excellent condition 16gb Touchpad for $160 today if I decide to. My question is, should I?
Just some quick background, my girlfriend has the original iPad which I have access to. I have a HTC Rezound phone that I have rooted. I would most definitely be buying this to root and just have a device that is bigger than my phone when I want to watch YouTube videos, surf the net while on the couch, play some games, etc.
I see that CM7 and CM9 is compatible with the Touchpad. I also see that CM9 renders the device not fully functional (mic, camera). I honestly would rarely use the mic or camera, so it's no biggie there. My question however is how the device other than those things functions with CM9? Is it a smooth experience? Does everything else pretty much work? Will CM9 get to a point where everything works great?
I just want to see if I should buy this or another budget tablet like the Fire or any upcoming ones.
Any advice would be great, thanks!
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Go for it! You'll have a dual boot tablet. You'll find that webos is a great os. Battery life is great and you can always switch to android when needed. Even though android is Alpha now, it works great. You won't regret it.
I think 16 is plenty for my use. Like you I generally web browse, YouTube, etc. I really don't store any content on my device. I have all the apps I could want, on Android and webOS. Here is a screenshot of the storage menu - 820 MB of 1.46 GB left for apps, 7.79GB left of 10.75GB for storage. The device is partitioned when you install Android, so you do lose about 3 GB. But when do you even really get the amount advertised?
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I can land an excellent condition 16gb Touchpad for $160 today if I decide to. My question is, should I?
Just some quick background, my girlfriend has the original iPad which I have access to. I have a HTC Rezound phone that I have rooted. I would most definitely be buying this to root and just have a device that is bigger than my phone when I want to watch YouTube videos, surf the net while on the couch, play some games, etc.
I see that CM7 and CM9 is compatible with the Touchpad. I also see that CM9 renders the device not fully functional (mic, camera). I honestly would rarely use the mic or camera, so it's no biggie there. My question however is how the device other than those things functions with CM9? Is it a smooth experience? Does everything else pretty much work? Will CM9 get to a point where everything works great?
I just want to see if I should buy this or another budget tablet like the Fire or any upcoming ones.
Any advice would be great, thanks!
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This just posted about an hour before your thread.
But edit...never mind.
Hey fellow rezounder. I had the touchpad since the firesale. Never used it really. I recently had a slow weekend so I threw cm9 on that beast. Now I use it every day. Webos is great but there just aren't any apps.
Cm9 is awesome. Everything you need is working. I even usesd titanium backup to restore all my apps from my rezound to the touchpad. I just bought the touchstone charging dock last night. I'm addicted to the touchpad again!
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I'm currently running CM9 on my 16 gb Touchpad and haven't run into a shortage. Even with quite a bit of media content (Several movies, a TV series) I still have room to spare.
For your lighter usage I think you will have no problems with the 16gb version.
Get it... You get a good dual core and 1 gb ram tablet for a very cheap price. I use it more often than my brand new laptop for games, surfing, youtube, schools pdfs etc. 16 gb is big enough for tons of apps and stuff.
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I'm currently running CM9 on my 16 gb Touchpad and haven't run into a shortage. Even with quite a bit of media content (Several movies, a TV series) I still have room to spare.
For your lighter usage I think you will have no problems with the 16gb version.
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I concur. Heck, I torrent and then drop my stuff on my WII; right from my touchpad. Our computer (with 5 hard drives) barely gets turned on anymore.
it's a beat and does everything I want and more.
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I have a 16GB touchpad, and pairing it with a bluetooth keyboard its replaced my laptop as my go-to machine while out of the house. I take all my class notes and write drafts of papers using it, and its been very solid in terms of reliability. It does sometimes reboot by itself, but I've noticed it only happens after idling for a while and never while actually using it.
Storage isnt a big issue for me, after installing Android the SD card has about 10.5GB free which is plenty as long as you dont put a lot of music or video on it.
I'd say go for it. Its an absolutely amazing tablet for the price and with a dev community that's only going to grow as CM9 gets out of alpha.
Thanks so much for all of the responses guys! I ended up pulling the trigger on a 16gb one last night for $160 from a local Craigslist deal. It came in the original box with all of the original cables and paperwork. Everything is in brand new, mint condition! I was stoked.
The guy had no clue that you could even install Android on it. He said he was getting rid of it because it didn't have "all of the good iPad apps". LOL.
Anyways, his loss, my gain. I threw CM9 on it with ease last night and let me tell you, I am super happy with the purchase! This tablet is a steal for the price I paid.
Just a quick question, on webOS can you place shortcuts and such on the homescreen? I couldn't figure out how to do it.
Thanks!
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Thanks so much for all of the responses guys! I ended up pulling the trigger on a 16gb one last night for $160 from a local Craigslist deal. It came in the original box with all of the original cables and paperwork. Everything is in brand new, mint condition! I was stoked.
The guy had no clue that you could even install Android on it. He said he was getting rid of it because it didn't have "all of the good iPad apps". LOL.
Anyways, his loss, my gain. I threw CM9 on it with ease last night and let me tell you, I am super happy with the purchase! This tablet is a steal for the price I paid.
Just a quick question, on webOS can you place shortcuts and such on the homescreen? I couldn't figure out how to do it.
Thanks!
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You can drag icons from the drawer to the dock. That's it, there's no "desktop" in webOS.
I like a clean desktop and getting to my apps in webos is not a problem. I do have ICS installed and like the dual boot option but WebOs is so smooth that I really prefer it.
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I like a clean desktop and getting to my apps in webos is not a problem. I do have ICS installed and like the dual boot option but WebOs is so smooth that I really prefer it.
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Do a search for cornerstone. I can't believe its running so flawlessly on my device. You won't regret it.
HP Touch pad cm9 and cornerstone

Been offered a xoom 3g

I love my touchpad + CM9, although it's getting slower and battery doesnt last all that long... it's a great device.
But I have been offered a xoom 3g
Should I stay or should I xoom?
Can't make up my mind - think this would be the benefit:
install ICS on XOOM more stable than CM9?
Decent working cameras
GPS
not bothered about 3g
also IPS screen
SD slot.
Think am persuading myself
believe me im in that struggle aswell since there's a refurbed HTC jetstream im being offered for the same cash as the touchpad
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I love my touchpad + CM9, although it's getting slower and battery doesnt last all that long... it's a great device.
But I have been offered a xoom 3g
Should I stay or should I xoom?
Can't make up my mind - think this would be the benefit:
install ICS on XOOM more stable than CM9?
Decent working cameras
GPS
not bothered about 3g
also IPS screen
SD slot.
Think am persuading myself
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Well if yours is getting slower that is on your end. Mine is only getting better. As far as battery life goes, you can do all sorts of tweaks to extend it. Anyways the zooms battery isn't good either. Camera-who cares? You already spent the money on this and this tablet is only getting better man. Look how far its come already. I would stick with this tablet. Don't throw your money away.
classicnerd butta touchpad.
i absolutely love my touchpad. while people are wandering around with their ipad's and everything... i sit there feeling good about myself that i have a dual booting, great piece of hardware, that like nickster said... is just getting better and better as they keep updating it, that i only spent $150 for. can't really beat that imo.
The Xoom is much faster. The CPU in tegra 2 is better than the snapdragon s3. Its also officially supported and has a higher resolution and better build quality.
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My friend has a xoom and battery life is very good. I used it a whole day with some heavy usage and still got battery left. While touchpad only last a few hours. However I love the 9 in screen size for reading, surfing, drawing etc by far over 10 in
Am in 2 minds...
there's something nice and special about the touchpad
i like being able to dual boot and mess around...
i'm reassured that i dont have a £600 ipad (seriously, getting one of those out on the train is a bit much when a touchpad at less than a quarter of the price is not that far behind!)
but
i would like to:
be able to skype with family without having to reboot into webos
transfer files on an sd card
not worry about weird non native android bugs
not worry about weird charging issues with sudden refusals to like a particular cable
3g+gps would be nice, but don't need them...
you feel like a pioneer with the touchpad, a maverick. the xoom is just another tablet
Got both and I really enjoy my Touchpad.
My touchpad bricked itself a few weeks ago and I bought a Xoom for cheap to use while i keep trying to bring the touchpad back to life.
The camera support and video chat capabilities of the xoom are fantastic...battery life is excellent (for me) and I'm 100% happy with it.
I totally agree hp touchpad is getting better and better, latest cm gives you working Mic so skyping is no problem. Camera on a tablet is a gimmick to me...most people will try it once and forget about it...unless of course you are chatting with family that lives far away...
Without overclock the battery is way more than I need to last me a days work
I paid 140 for mine and I'm sitting pretty until next hardware revamp
I bet Xoom would be pretty good as well but the price is what makes it less of a bargain...if I were you I'd only get the Xoom on some awesome deal
Now with the new optimizations coming to CM they'll make it even faster (2x) at almost the same battery draw
I also love the rubber stand that comes with the touchpad, haven't really seen equivalent on any other Android tablet, Apple on the other hand gets all the best accessories...urrgh
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Well if yours is getting slower that is on your end. Mine is only getting better. As far as battery life goes, you can do all sorts of tweaks to extend it. Anyways the zooms battery isn't good either. Camera-who cares? You already spent the money on this and this tablet is only getting better man. Look how far its come already. I would stick with this tablet. Don't throw your money away.
classicnerd butta touchpad.
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Not accurate, Xoom battery life is comparable to the iPad 2. It ranges between 9.5 and 11.5 hours of watching video.
I'd like to update mine with a newer nightly to see if that makes it run quicker, but am wary and don't want to ask about it on here for all the abuse you get! there's so many posts about updates etc it's incomprehensible so i'm stuck
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I'd like to update mine with a newer nightly to see if that makes it run quicker, but am wary and don't want to ask about it on here for all the abuse you get! there's so many posts about updates etc it's incomprehensible so i'm stuck
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just try them because no two touchpad's are customised alike....just make a backup of what you're running now and install the new one, if you don't like it....wipe it and restore the backup.
nubsors said:
Not accurate, Xoom battery life is comparable to the iPad 2. It ranges between 9.5 and 11.5 hours of watching video.
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The best its been rated at with screen brightness at 65% is 8:20.
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