EDIT: information below is obsolete. Please check the last few pages of the topic for recent development progress.
What is known:
Jetstream uses MSM8x60 processor (is this same as msm8660?)
What we need to know:
What GPU.
Other similar HTC devices running on the MSM8x60.
Stable and most developed kernel compiled from source.
Stable HC Rom for donor Rom.
Bluetooth SoC
WiFi SoC
GPS SoC
HC kernel source base address (if I compile my own kernel from HC sources)
More useful info you guys can come up with.
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I am from the HTC Flyer forums, and am interested in getting ICS onto the Jetstream, although I don't have the device myself. For now this thread will serve as a base for discussing about ICS, until the actual development can start.
This thread is NOT for saying thanks 'little guy', hopes, general ranting about HTC or flamefights.
I need some pieces of info now, so that we can start doing stuff. I need some good internet trawlers for this to work,so anyone who can help please do, as I have time constraints due to developing for the Flyer all while having to stay at the top of my class.
Options in getting ICS:
Porting (preffered for now)
Building from Source
I prefer porting for now as building from source will be difficult as a GB kernel source is not present unlike the Flyer.
What I know:
Jetstream uses MSM8x60 processor (is this same as msm8660?)
What I need to know:
What GPU.
Other similar HTC devices running on the MSM8x60.
Stable and most developed kernel compiled from source.
Stable HC Rom for donor Rom.
Bluetooth SoC
WiFi SoC
GPS SoC
HC kernel source base address (if I compile my own kernel from HC sources)
More useful info you guys can come up with.
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Hi,
Nice to see you get started. Well this is what I could gather.
1. Msm8x60 processor is a series of processors which has variants - Msm8260 and msm8660. Jetstream uses a variant called APQ8060. It's used by HTC Vivid, Samsung Galaxy Tab LTE, SGS II (SGH T989), HP Touchpad, Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G, LG Nitro HD, Le Pan II.
2. It's using an Adreno 220 GPU as far as I could gather
3. DoomKernel is the only kernel I gather out here. It works well but some users have faced glitches on it with the overclocking and voltage changing settings.
4. I feel galaxy task 650 v2 is the most stable rom-I did face problems with v3. Osimood also seems to work well but haven't had more than 3 days with it running so can't comment on stability.
5. The kernel source base addresses I think were posted elsewhere. Will check and get back.
6. I don't know how to check out the SoC things. If you can direct me what I must do to check them, I will and get back asap. Even the kernel source base address if any way I can check, do guide and it will be done.
If any of the above information is wrong, I am sorry and will try to correct it as soon as I learn of the mistake.
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The HTC Vivid, seems to have exactly all same internal component, expect the screen resolution and the stylus
And ICS is also available for it.
While doing some research about phones, came across an interesting fact. The HTC One S has very very similar specs as the Jetstream. It runs on a Qualcomm MSM8260A Snapdragon processor and runs GPU of 225 Adreno. I think only the GPU is different as Jetstream is on the Adreno 220 GPU. Could this be useful in helping us port ICS to the Jetstream? Of course, no pen and screen resolution vary - else they seem very similar.
OK, I've checked out the Vivid and know about the One S, but for now, I am going with a Vivid ROM. As I don't have a Jetstream, I'll be needing a someone's Ubuntu box (someone who has developed/cooked etc. before hopefully) with Remote Access and the Jetstream connected via usb.
I need the following specs on your computer(if anyone is willing):
Atleast Dual-Core CPU (Quad-Core preferred)
Atleast 2GB RAM
About 5 GB of free space
Ubuntu 64bit (12.04 preffered)
Cross-compile toolchain installed(but OK if you don't have it)
Minimum 1MB/s Internet speed
Unlimited Internet usage preferred, but 2GB usage reqd. minimum
Jetstream attached via USB
If you guys do have a computer matching these specs, PM me or write here. Hopefully we will be able to get something out of it.
I would definitely offer but I don't have a pc to match even the minimum config. You planning on getting a Jetstream by any chance?
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Sorry!
kailashpchhabria said:
I would definitely offer but I don't have a pc to match even the minimum config. You planning on getting a Jetstream by any chance?
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Thanks for your offer, what PC specs. do you have?
I don't want to get a Jetstream ATM, and the Jetstream doesn't seem to be a popular device (almost no replies on this thread, no bounty,etc) and I can only get a Jetstream if someone gifts/sends/etc. it to me.
mhkabir98 said:
Thanks for your offer, what PC specs. do you have?
I don't want to get a Jetstream ATM, and the Jetstream doesn't seem to be a popular device (almost no replies on this thread, no bounty,etc) and I can only get a Jetstream if someone gifts/sends/etc. it to me.
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Can't blame you for not wanting to get one, but there is a bounty out for ICS as is listed here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656914.
mhkabir98 said:
Thanks for your offer, what PC specs. do you have?
I don't want to get a Jetstream ATM, and the Jetstream doesn't seem to be a popular device (almost no replies on this thread, no bounty,etc) and I can only get a Jetstream if someone gifts/sends/etc. it to me.
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Mine is a P4 3Ghz, 2GB RAM, WinXP. I guess Ubuntu will work but will have to get it. Hard disk and internet not a problem.
And the ICS bounty has reached a $350 mark. You get a refurbished Jestream for $299.99 at http://www.all4cellular.com/product/htc-jetstream-32gb-refurbished.html if you interested in taking up the bounty. They send it with a shiping charge of $41 off. In all comes to $341.54. So you interested? Also, only drawback from that site is no scribe pen-but as you have a Flyer, the same pen will work.
kailashpchhabria said:
Mine is a P4 3Ghz, 2GB RAM, WinXP. I guess Ubuntu will work but will have to get it. Hard disk and internet not a problem.
And the ICS bounty has reached a $350 mark. You get a refurbished Jestream for $299.99 at http://www.all4cellular.com/product/htc-jetstream-32gb-refurbished.html if you interested in taking up the bounty. They send it with a shiping charge of $41 off. In all comes to $341.54. So you interested? Also, only drawback from that site is no scribe pen-but as you have a Flyer, the same pen will work.
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Thanks for the advice. If you people want me to carry on the work, someone will need to collect the bounty, buy the Jetstream and ship it to my address as I am a tad inconvenienced without PayPal,etc. being 13 and all.
Also, I'll feel bad if I do get the Jetstream and can't manage to get ICS on it, as its a long and complex process, and end up disappointing you guys or something like Drew Garen in the Flyer forums who got a free Flyer and was in fact a scammer.
mhkabir98 said:
Thanks for the advice. If you people want me to carry on the work, someone will need to collect the bounty, buy the Jetstream and ship it to my address as I am a tad inconvenienced without PayPal,etc. being 13 and all.
Also, I'll feel bad if I do get the Jetstream and can't manage to get ICS on it, as its a long and complex process, and end up disappointing you guys or something like Drew Garen in the Flyer forums who got a free Flyer and was in fact a scammer.
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Oh ok. I will do 1 thing. If you don't get someone by the 24th, I will try arranging for something for the system. I got an exam on 24th and after that I would be able to spare time and try getting something set up for you. Hope that would be acceptable. If someone else can do it before that well and good. Regarding bounty etc, if you get it working on the Jetstream, then perhaps someone would be able to do it for you. I just realised that there is post saying bouty would be given after ics is working.
Another question if you don't.mind. a user has a S-OFF device. I was wondering if we could use his device as a model and try getting s off for the others? Because in my understanding, having s off would be an advantage and it would surely speed things up for development. Would such a thing be possible.
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kailashpchhabria said:
Oh ok. I will do 1 thing. If you don't get someone by the 24th, I will try arranging for something for the system. I got an exam on 24th and after that I would be able to spare time and try getting something set up for you. Hope that would be acceptable. If someone else can do it before that well and good. Regarding bounty etc, if you get it working on the Jetstream, then perhaps someone would be able to do it for you. I just realised that there is post saying bouty would be given after ics is working.
Another question if you don't.mind. a user has a S-OFF device. I was wondering if we could use his device as a model and try getting s off for the others? Because in my understanding, having s off would be an advantage and it would surely speed things up for development. Would such a thing be possible.
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Thanks! Hopefully you can get me the Jetstream. I don't need the bounty/donation or anything, just the device.
About the S-OFF device, that guy doesn't have it anymore,though it would help for ICS . A ENG Hboot or factory S-OFF is not very useful for getting S-OFF on factory locked devices, except for perhaps hard flashing(JTAG) the hboots onto the target device.
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Not being over enthusiastic, but a SIM unlocked device would be preffered.
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mhkabir98 said:
Thanks! Hopefully you can get me the Jetstream. I don't need the bounty/donation or anything, just the device.
About the S-OFF device, that guy doesn't have it anymore,though it would help for ICS . A ENG Hboot or factory S-OFF is not very useful for getting S-OFF on factory locked devices, except for perhaps hard flashing(JTAG) the hboots onto the target device.
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I know he does have it. Had PMed him a while back and he did. Will confirm in any case still. Also, my Jetstream is sim unlocked. And I meant that I will be able to set up the system with the uplink and stuff after the 14th - just in case you misunderstood that i will be able to get you a device without the bounty-sorry. The bounty will cover a device for you if you manage to get ics running on the jetstream.
Will PM the guy with an S-OFF device and get back to you with that.
Development started!
So not to get your hopes up or anything but, development has started!
I provided mhkabir98 de needed Ubuntu box, and unlock jetstream.
We are currently trying to port a Vivid ICS rom to the Jetstream and get it booting using Doomlord's kernel.
AS I said, don't get your hopes up this is VERY early stage..
But mhkabir98 seems capable enough with his Flyer ICS rom.
And the ubuntu box + jetstream are good enough
Great news! Just saw an ics asus today..got me jealous.
Just one request if I may, the doomlord kernel is known as problematic, for some of us it crashes the device. If its possible, I would ask to avoid using it, or trying to fix the known issues.
Hopefully this will go well. Goodluck, and thanks.
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So excited to see this! I hope this works out!!! I do agree on the Kernel. I'm currently running latest Task with stock kernel and works very well. Hope I can still use that kernel.
We are first trying to get it to boot,
After this we will focus on getting everything else to work,
When everything works we will try to get it as stable as possible
We are first trying the DooMLord kernel, and if that works we will ofcourse also try the Stock kernel.
We can't say for sure if everything will work out as we intend, but we will try our bests, it's my first time at rom building so pklease have patience.
Thanks for your co-operation!
If you can't get it done, I'll have a look at it after the holidays. I did bring ICS to the HTC Flyer as well (pure AOSP), I think this one should be easy to do
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If you can't get it done, I'll have a look at it after the holidays. I did bring ICS to the HTC Flyer as well (pure AOSP), I think this one should be easy to do
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That would be really really amazing. Any help always welcome/
And can't wait for your ICS Flyer ROM either.
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Any devs over here want to help port Honeycomb to the view? We don't have anyone in the forums. I'm willing to provide any help I can.
Or if we can just get a good GB ROM it would be great.
Curious here...
Did Google finally drop source for HC?
If not, are you guys using the sdk as reference? (Or another device's img.?)
Lastly,
did HTC ever announce that HC support would NOT be coming to the View?
Thanks for looking... Since I'm picking one up today, I'd love to know about this.
Edit: I'm getting a Flyer, on the cheap, not the View, but I'd imagine that any port to the View would be far easier to port to a wifi-only version of the same device..
HC's code will probably never be released (pretty sure its listed under the Apache license, which doesn't require,source release, someone correct me if I'm wrong) so the likelyhood of it being ported is fairly low. ICS's code however should be released eventually, so the hopes of that being made for many devices (including the view) should not be a far fetched aspiration.
Well the HTC Puccini's HC ROM has already been ported to the flyer but not the view. I don't think HCs source has been released. I would be fine with a good GB version but there's only two that I've seen and tried but it seems that the devs just dropped them and don't respond anymore. Pm me if you need anything answered about the flyer. I'm new to dev stuff but learn quick. I've rooted lots of phones and have adb and fastboot ready to go on my laptop
Sorry I meant pm me about the view. I don't have a flyer
I am wondering given that this device just got honeycomb.. is there any chance of it getting ICS?
Part of the reason I'm wondering is because I am getting my flyer sometime between the 10th and the 17th coming up according to the "estimated delivery date" when I hit buy.
I have had ICS on my captivate before I ever even got to play with Honeycomb.. my mom got the transformer yesterday.. and there are a few minor quirks with honeycomb that I really don't like.. major example being if you pull up the task manager in ICS you can remove windows and close out the programs.. Honeycomb will pull up windows that aren't open.. and it gets cluttered fast if your done with something and seeing 5 or more windows you don't want open, but can't get rid of..
no sign of ICS anytime soon but maybe if kernel source is released and CM9 development someone will port it here. In regards to the task management, yes it can get cluttered but it is better than not having it at all like gingerbread
I'm hoping they'll have the decency to update us or at least release the source code required...
IANAL, but I believe HTC legally has to release the kernel source for anything it releases. If they never release ICS, we may never get a kernel for ICS.
Honeycomb kernel might work, but I'm not sure if HTC is legally required to release honeycomb kernel source.
As far as I am aware, they did/may have use some proprietary software which would screw up our porting efforts.
So it becomes an issue of "will they" and that is what I am wondering.
Personally I don't think we will ever see ICS on the Flyer. Here are my reasons:
1. Not a lot of Flyers were sold so there is not a large user base. Thus, there is not much developer interest.
2. Sense - From what I understand from what developers have said, the kernels that HTC makes are made to work with Sense and will not work with an AOSP build.
These two things combine to make bringing ICS to the Flyer difficult and there is no one around who appears willing to do it.
I really hope that I am wrong about this but I don't think that I am.
Someone want to educate a noob?
How is it that several other devices (including HTC ones, like the Sensation) are getting ICS ports, but the Flyer/View can't? I mean, it seems unlikely that HTC released AOSP kernel sources for other devices, and even if they did, they're certainly not ICS kernels. Why is it so important for us to have an AOSP kernel (and an ICS one, at that) from HTC in order to get CM on the Flyer/View?
Oh, and then there's devices that didn't even have Android like the TouchPad, and devices that don't have their source code released, like the Kindle Fire.
I'm definitely not a developer, so I'm sure there's something I'm missing...I'm just trying to figure out what it is.
I'm repeating what developers told me or wrote here. I don't know if it is right or wrong.
I think the bottom line is that it is easier to have an AOSP kernel.
I think you can build your own kernel but that is much more work and maybe a hard thing to do.
All of the custom ROMs that we have seen for the Flyer are just modified HTC ROMs that come with certain software preinstalled or other kinds of enhancements.
More popular devices have much more developer interest. I would imagine that some less popular device owners get lucky because some developer also owns the device and is willing to spend the time.
So far, one developer said he would try to bring ICS to Flyer. He tried but gave up because of kernel issues. I don't get the impression that he did too much but at least he gave it a go. No other developer has said anything one way or the other.
I'm not holding my breath..
but, I definitely won't give up hope just yet..
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
DigitalMD said:
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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Makes sense to me.
Shame this device hasn't received more attention.
DigitalMD said:
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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This is correct and likely the only way we see ICS in a timely manner.
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https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
dingnecros said:
https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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He's been debunked several times.
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So I guess the big question as far as an official update goes.. is how much effort would HTC have to put out in order to do the upgrade...
And will it be worth it for them to do so..
I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
ytwytw said:
I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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Would it be possible to take the pen code from honeycomb and implement it in CM9?
ytwytw said:
I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I'd be content with an AOSP rom now, with the pen worked in later.
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We will see... if any devs are willing, I am sure as heck willing to help and take a crack at it myself..
You can't do AOSP without HTC's help for the kernel and drivers and since HTC only does sense kernels I'm thinking that's not going to happen. I still think a port of an HTC ICS ROM from another device is the most likely path, unless HTC is feeling exceptionally benevolent toward the Flyer. Perhaps the Jetstream tablet will get ICS and that can be ported...
XOOM got ICS port right now, with everything working well (except face unlock, but hey...)
does that mean anything for us Flyer/View-owners? is it possible to port it to our tablet?
would love ics on the flyer
EDIT: Link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/highly-functioning-cm9-kang-released-for-the-xoom/
what does it mean to us? That the xoom got an ics port, nothing more or less.
Different hardware types and kernels mean xoom with ics is meaningless to us.
My guess is he was asking if there was a way to port it and mod it to work. What we really need to hope for of CM9.x to arrive that will support the Flyer/Evo View.
Snow_fox said:
what does it mean to us? That the xoom got an ics port, nothing more or less.
Different hardware types and kernels mean xoom with ics is meaningless to us.
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hahha somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed, or are you always this negative? haha relax
im not stupid, i know that its a diffrent tablet, but this kinds of ports are being done almost daily.
as this fella mentioned, i was thinking of a mod, to get it to work.
He's not being grouchy, just straight forward. You cannot port a ROM complied for a completely different family of hardware and get it to function in any conceivable fashion. You'd be better off with a SDK build of ICS which would possibly boot if you hacked in a boot image, but none of the HTC specific hardware like camera, BT or video would function. There are already efforts underway to build ICS ROMs. Since ICS is built on top of HC, we have most of the pieces to build a vanilla ROM (no HTC Sense). Once HTC comes out with a working HTC device ICS ROM on hardware that is similar to the Flyer (yes some of their phones use similar hardware) that will be the port we want for ICS /Sense Roms.
I would love to have ICS on this device. Considering how much dev interest the blowout sales have generated I think its possible. But I am not going to how my breathe. I have a galaxy nexus but my evo view is still my primary device due to its pen and large screen. My wishlist for the next iteration of this device is: lighter, ICS, sprint 4g LTE in that exact order
Hopefully the fire sales have pushed HTC to keep going.
psijac said:
I would love to have ICS on this device. Considering how much dev interest the blowout sales have generated I think its possible. But I am not going to how my breathe. I have a galaxy nexus but my evo view is still my primary device due to its pen and large screen. My wishlist for the next iteration of this device is: lighter, ICS, sprint 4g LTE in that exact order
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Reading about ICS on Prime on engadget has made me interested in ICS as well.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/hands-on-with-ice-cream-sandwich-on-asus-transformer-prime/
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He's not being grouchy, just straight forward. You cannot port a ROM complied for a completely different family of hardware and get it to function in any conceivable fashion. You'd be better off with a SDK build of ICS which would possibly boot if you hacked in a boot image, but none of the HTC specific hardware like camera, BT or video would function. There are already efforts underway to build ICS ROMs. Since ICS is built on top of HC, we have most of the pieces to build a vanilla ROM (no HTC Sense). Once HTC comes out with a working HTC device ICS ROM on hardware that is similar to the Flyer (yes some of their phones use similar hardware) that will be the port we want for ICS /Sense Roms.
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yeah i know, but since ive seen others with ics, that made me a bit inpaitient
htc sensation got the ics leaked, and maybe someone can start by playing with that one.
and i dont really care if its manilla or sense, both will do good dont think flyer/view will be getting any ICS official soon, since HC just was released.
if i seemed grouchy, it may be because I am a comp sci major with aspirations of being a software engineer. I view the question as either yes or no and then explain the logic why not. No intentions of rudeness, but I tend to assume I'm talking to ppl with similar backgrounds... At least on the net anyway.
Wooow...okey then...my bad! I should know better..
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We are keeping an eye on the HTC Sensation leak. Right now there are 2 or 3 pages of things that don't work and of course its a different radio and HBOOT. So its a ways out from being useful as a port other than a novelty. By that I mean you might get something to boot, but none of the hardware functions like camera and touch screen would work.
May want to wait for something more stable to port..sounds more like a way to brick a flyer than a novelty.
How much difference is there between sensation and flyer? Also is the radio relevant for the WiFi flyer.
I keep forgetting the are 3g versions of the flyer.
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We are keeping an eye on the HTC Sensation leak. Right now there are 2 or 3 pages of things that don't work and of course its a different radio and HBOOT. So its a ways out from being useful as a port other than a novelty. By that I mean you might get something to boot, but none of the hardware functions like camera and touch screen would work.
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ok, sounds good though!
whats the chances of a HC/ICS mix then, do you know? i mean, using what might be working in ICS (the best of it) combined with the useabilities of the HC.
*modding is not my area, as you might understand by now*
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ok, sounds good though!
whats the chances of a HC/ICS mix then, do you know? i mean, using what might be working in ICS (the best of it) combined with the useabilities of the HC.
*modding is not my area, as you might understand by now*
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May want to wait for something more stable to port..sounds more like a way to brick a flyer than a novelty.
How much difference is there between sensation and flyer? Also is the radio relevant for the WiFi flyer.
I keep forgetting the are 3g versions of the flyer.
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1. ICS is built on top of HC so we already have most of the ICS GUI. Google is already moving some of the ICS features into individual apps like the updated Google Search.
2. Radio is always relevant because it controls GPS, Wifi , and BT in addition to 3g.
Hello, first post
Now I have an HTC flyer and that means I am stuck with HC firmware or perhaps maybe GB.
There are a lot of fully functional customized HC ROMS out there, however when it comes to ICS or JB
most of them are buggy and never fully functional.
I am not a developer so I don't think that I have the right to criticize, however from what I see
many developer start an ICS or JB Flyer ROM and than just leave it.
It would be great if you people create some sort of a joint effort and make one stable and functional rom for the flyer.
Some would say just leave the flyer and buy yourself a Nexus or whatever but the thing is there are countries in this world where we can;t afford to just give up on a device and spend money on another one.
So what I would like to have is either an ICS or JB ROM where everything would be functional, however I could live without:
(and these are features that are already not working on the present ICS/JB roms)
-bluetooth
-front camera
-youtube HD (but only HD if regular youtube is missing is not OK)
-videorecorder (however this would be disappointing)
But It wold be awesome if Phone is implemented and Pen (Quill is acceptable also)
So far best ICS ROMS are Yetki (where only problem I had was that wi-fi was not functioning even with manual flashing of the boot.img)
Also another new ROM is this one NexusFlyer in this ROM everything works (except for the above features) but I am not sure if there's a Phone function and the screen rotating is buggy.
So what are you willing to donate towards the developers' efforts? The "you people" in question have lives and families and jobs that require their attention on a daily basis. These ROMs are hobbies for them.
Their works are just voluntaty works.
They don't have any obligation to make roms for us.
They've already done and are doing many things for us, more than HTC
I understand it's a voluntary work and a hobby for most of them, but since they are already doing it, how abot making something that truly benefits people.
HTC has done a horrible job when it comes to the flyer and now we're either stuck woth HC albeit slightly modified, or waiting for the developer community to make something usefull.
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Pick up a book and figure it out yourself
Flyer
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Pick up a book and figure it out yourself
Flyer
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Ha Ha Ha
I actually wouldn't mind learning how to create a JB or ICS, stable, ROM for the View and Flyer, since there really isn't any. At least for myself.
Where would one start reading?
lets hear from them
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I actually wouldn't mind learning how to create a JB or ICS, stable, ROM for the View and Flyer, since there really isn't any. At least for myself.
Where would one start reading?
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Me also waiting for a useful reply, regarding that.
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Their works are just voluntaty works.
They don't have any obligation to make roms for us.
They've already done and are doing many things for us, more than HTC
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agree, they do more than htc, it seems like htc forgot that they have made tablet quite disappointed since they have made great tablet realy
Hi I'm newbie posting in here.. Did you already try new ROM ICS that call Yetki..? I have issue for phone function after use this ROM, mic and speaker can't working. Maybe something missing, because I can't find any details whats function didn't work at this ROM.
Please help.. because I like this ROM, smooth, fast and nice to customs again.
Sorry I'm posting in this thread, because I can't posting at development sub-forum.
ADTist said:
Hi I'm newbie posting in here.. Did you already try new ROM ICS that call Yetki..? I have issue for phone function after use this ROM, mic and speaker can't working. Maybe something missing, because I can't find any details whats function didn't work at this ROM.
Please help.. because I like this ROM, smooth, fast and nice to customs again.
Sorry I'm posting in this thread, because I can't posting at development sub-forum.
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Honestly I don;t remember but I think that my phone worked OK, although I didn;t really tested all that well, because
WI-FI wasn' working on my tablet.
There will be an update to the Yetki tommorow (friday) or the next day. From what I saw on the thread
mic/sound issues will be addressed in the update.
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I understand it's a voluntary work and a hobby for most of them,
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Just stop right there. If the devs want to stop developing a ROM, that's their choice. You think what they have done has not truly benefited the people?
It has benefited people no doubt aboit it. Just not in this case, when it comes to the flyer they did better than HTC but I don't see any benefit in using any ICS based Flyer rom, rather than a HC custom rom.
It's complicated simce the Flyer has the scribe technology built in, notes, the e-book reader where you can scribble just like on real paper, front camera, back camera, I understand that it's complicated and maybe it takes time maybe it can not be done.
I don't understand what's with all this negative interpretation of my post, it should be an incentive that we are here we use this device and we would like to see it better.
Also I am not asking the developers to waste time on something useless, I don't need yet another partialy functional ROM, just stop right there say 'we can't do it,it's impossible' and move on to something that will perhaps benefit someone else, some other device. They are developers, it's what they do.
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silfiriel said:
Honestly I don;t remember but I think that my phone worked OK, although I didn;t really tested all that well, because
WI-FI wasn' working on my tablet.
There will be an update to the Yetki tommorow (friday) or the next day. From what I saw on the thread
mic/sound issues will be addressed in the update.
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thx for u'r answer, that different with my tablet, Wi-fi and tethering working fine.
yups.. I be waiting for the update, hope today he update this ROM.
Hey, we are not their employer or their customer.
Whether they stop the development, move to other device or etc., it is just their choice.
If they think something is important, they try to do their best to make it work.(Actually, they do now.)
You don't see any benefit on their ICS rom? Just go back HC or give some useful feedback to them.
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HTC Flyer ICS yetki
HTC Desire MIUI ICS
It looks like Yetki is getting an update reały soon as in it only needs to be uploaded and shared, can't wait to test it! I loved it even the first time except wi-fi wasn't working, hoping theu will fix it in the update
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freworld said:
Me also waiting for a useful reply, regarding that.
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IF you really want to develop ICS /JB fully functional ROMs for the HTC Flyer , start by learning how to build the kernel. What we are missing right now is a JB kernel for the Flyer, once that is done, its possible to begin CM10 and other variants of JB. However, be aware that building the kernel and the libs (drivers) for HTC devices can be difficult because not everything is open source.
We can't all be developers, I don't think learning how to build ROMs is as easy as the last few comments made it look. I am assuming some programmers would have a hard time doing so if they haven't had any experience into it let alone ppl that don't code. :/
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silfiriel said:
It looks like Yetki is getting an update reały soon as in it only needs to be uploaded and shared, can't wait to test it! I loved it even the first time except wi-fi wasn't working, hoping theu will fix it in the update
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for active wi-fi connection try to rollback to HC ROM (I try use leedroid and fastboot flash boot boot.img event I'm not use s-off from htcdev) after running fine, back to recovery full wipe, and upgrade to Yetki ROM without fastboot *.img file again. test running and wi-fi can active again. for tethering just install easytether.
CMIIW
Thanks I will try that.
Does it have to be a HC ROM because right now I am on Dexter's JB port and If I don't have to I'd skip a flash
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I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
Check out the non-carrier-specific forum...it's pretty active.
EDIT: HTC didn't come up short, this phone is considered quite a success.
My theory for this specific forum being dead is that T-Mobile's national release of this phone was yesterday (06/05/2013). Before that, it was only available in their "high-volume" locations.
Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
yea all the development is in the international forum. all roms on that forum will work on the tmo htc one and they work very well. i have flashed every sense based rom and most of the aosp roms. definitely not a ghost town over there:good:
Yeah, they should. But as always, continue at your own risk.
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Oh wow. And all of those will work with the Tmo version?
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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yes but the 4.2 sense roms havent implemented support for tmo yet they still work as im running trickdroid 7.0 now just no wifi calling yet but the 4.1 versions have wifi calling and most other tmo stuff
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I remember the HTC Evo days. Boy, I spent hours-a-day browsing the development section on XDA to get my flash fix. That carried over with my Samsung Galaxy S2 and then the S3. Now that I'm considering coming back to HTC for a fresher experience, I found myself jaw-dropped at how ghostly the development forums are. I figured this could be a result of the phone being so young; so I went to the GS4 to see if that holds true. Wow... what a difference. Those forums seem busier than hell. And it's only been about a month since it was released as well.
Anyone have any idea why that is? I've been trying to convince myself to get the HTC One. I got over the fact that it lacks a replaceable battery, a MicroSD card, and recently, I got over the fact that the images are just not all that it's hyped up to be. I figured I'd be transitioning to the Moto X Phone when that comes out later in the year, so I might as well put-up with these shortcomings. But not having the development support that I experienced with the earlier HTC devices, and recently with the Samsung devices is just not something I think I can get over.
I am constantly thinking of the word "potential" when referring to this phone. What a shame. HTC had all the tools to flip the market on its feet, but it seems as if they came up short... again.
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As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
Yea I've been hanging out in the International One forums as almost all their ROMs work for us.
This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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This forum really shouldn't even have a development section since there's not really any specific T-Mo stuff that needs to be done.
Every single ROM in the GSM section will work for T-Mo. There isn't a single one that won't work. The only thing you lose is T-Mo's branded stuff and T-Mo's wifi calling (as they are the only ones who do Wifi calling)/
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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Thanks you guys so much for your replies. I'm happy to see that the development forums for the One is indeed thriving. I'm more confident in snagging a one over the GS4 now.
Indeed, I don't see a reason as to why even bother with a Tmo specific section.
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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Psssst... psssttt hey if u come we will welcome you!:screwy:
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Firov said:
As you've noticed by now, there's plenty of developer support for the HTC One. It's all just confined to the general HTC One forums, which makes sense, as the various roms can be used on the AT&T, T-Mobile, and international HTC One's. Most developers don't want to have to maintain 3 or more separate threads for the same thing.
As was pointed out though, if you're looking for T-Mobile wifi calling compatibility, be careful about the ROMs you flash. Since the 4.2.2 OTA for T-Mobile isn't out yet, no 4.2.2 ROM is going to support it. I'd suggest Android Revolution 9.4, or a similar 4.1.2 ROM if WIFI calling is essential to you.
Also, since a Google edition of the phone is going to be coming out in the near future, developer support is likely going to expand even further.
So I think it's safe to say you can put your fears to rest and buy an HTC One. I don't think you'll regret it.
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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9.4 definitely has wifi-calling. I'm on 9.3 at the moment and wifi-calling works perfectly for me on T-Mobile. In the installer, just be sure to select T-Mobile as your carrier and it will install all the necessary files for wifi calling.
Also, note that S-Off isn't required to flash this ROM. All you need to do is unlock your device through HTC Dev, located at the HTC Dev site. I'd give you a direct link, but asinine restrictions in place on this forum are preventing that at the moment. Just Google HTC Dev and it will be the first result. You can't miss it.
Anyway, unlike with earlier HTC devices, this unlock method allows you to flash everything you need to update the ROM. Only some of the "black box" partitions like the radio and bootloader aren't flashable when it's unlocked with this method, but to my knowledge, no ROM requires that, and furthermore, the Nexus devices are very similar in that respect.
The only real advantage to S-Off is if you plan on flashing a different carrier's RUU, altering the radio, or changing your CID. Anyway, just something to be aware of.
Good luck.
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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Sweet, thanks I'll definitely try 9.4 then! Reception in my office all day is terrible so I'm excited to try wi-fi calling.
I think I understand in theory why S-OFF would not be needed. but the nerd in me wants full control with S-OFF.. Also, if I use S-OFF, i can return my phone to bone-stock and keep warranty right? As amazing as the hardware on the HTC One is (I've gotten used to sub-standard hardware with the Nexus line), I'm not 100% sure yet I want to keep it.
Any chance you could educate me on what CID is for? Evidently it may restrict/allow flashing ROMS from certain regions?
Also, I believe I have a basic understanding of what an RUU is, but could you elaborate for me by any chance? I believe it's basically an all i one installer for a full stock ROM?
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but this T-Mo sub forum seems a bit more forgiving than some other areas
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
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It's worth doing to S-OFF. If you do, you'll have the ability to relock the phone and put it back to S-ON with zero indication that you ever messed with it. Also, CIDs are used to restrict ROMs from certain carriers to only be installed on certain devices. It's really only a stock or stock-leak ROM limitation, I don't think a single ROM in either the regular or original development section is CID-locked. Either way, if you are S-OFF, you can change your CID code to whatever you want it to be (the code "111111") is referred to as "SuperCID" because that allows you to in theory run an RUU/OTA from ANY Carrier regardless.
You are correct about what an RUU is. However, each RUU is specific to a build of Android made by the carrier, and so far, I think only the Sprint RUU is out. No one has a T-Mo RUU yet (but you really don't need one, all you have to do is flash the stock rooted ROM from our section here and then unroot from the SU app options).
Enjoy tinkering.
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
Sent from my badass Samsung Galaxy SIII.
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Perfect, thanks for confirming all that. I think I'm ready to get the HTC-noob stink off of me The phone feels so amazing in hand, it's making me look at all these Nexus devices (Nexi?) I have in a bit of a different light.. And once the Google Experience software drops, hopefully I won't miss having a Nexus as my daily driver!
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You guys are so awesome. I'm counting down the days until July 1st now when I'll get my hands on my own HTC One. =)
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You're going to enjoy the One. It's the first Android phone to have the build quality of an iPhone with specs that beat the pants off it
The only thing that sucks about the One is that because it has such a high pixel density, you will be extremely sensitive and aware of pixels in all your other displays (laptop/desktop/tablet etc).
I own an ASUS Zenbook, which is a 13" ultrabook with a full 1920x1080p display which is retina-levels of dense on such a small screen (I think it's almost 170 pixels per inch). The One? The one is a whopping ~470 pixels per inch. It is stupidly dense and I promise you won't find a single pixel no matter how hard you look.
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I was able to dig up an old link for Android Revolution 9.4 but can't find a description or list of features etc for it. Are you positive it has wi-fi calling in it?
I haven't owned an HTC since the OG Nexus One (had all Nexus devices since) so I'm reading up on S-OFF etc before I flash a new ROM. I really want to try out wifi calling though so that's why I'd like to make sure. Thanks in advance!
PS - link to ROM if anyone wants it: http://www.androidrevolution.nl/downloader/download.php?file=Android_Revolution_HD-One_9.4.zip
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would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
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would anyone happen to have a working link for Android Revolution 9.4???
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Look like they took it down. I have it in my local computer here and I can upload it for you somewhere if you like. PM me if you have access to somewhere I can put it for you.