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Does any have an opinion as so the speed between the 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060 va tegra 2.
Seems like all the major players are using tegra 2 but the hp touchpad sports 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060.
Is one chip more costly then the other?
My guess is that the tegra 2 is cheaper thats why the mainstream tablets are using it. But I could be wrong.
Any input?
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Does any have an opinion as so the speed between the 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060 va tegra 2.
Seems like all the major players are using tegra 2 but the hp touchpad sports 1.2 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8060.
Is one chip more costly then the other?
My guess is that the tegra 2 is cheaper thats why the mainstream tablets are using it. But I could be wrong.
Any input?
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Most of the Honeycomb tablets use Tegra 2 because Honeycomb was primarily built for Tegra 2 much the same way ICS was built primarily for omap 4.
As far as speed goes, with identical clock speed the GPU in the APQ8060 (Adreno 220) is twice as fast as the one in Tegra, while Tegra has a slightly faster CPU. They average out to be even.
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i will tell you something graphic drivers in android are big problem and google cant do anything about it as the number of devices are too many,i mean to say they cant optimize it as it is in the control of oems and there is the problem as most oems dont have great developers you get scrap drivers on the chipset, you can see tegra drivers on 1 and 2 are not so great, i have notion ink and touchpad alpha 3 the flash videos in touchpad alpha are great with no stuttering but in notion ink there is so much stuttering while playing.coz tegra is new where is qualcomm has been around for longtime and they know much better than nvidia in optimizing their drivers.this is where apple is much better than google as they have a single chipset to optimize and no oems to worry about so their products come with optimized drivers and work great.i wish there was a way oems could collaborate on their drivers with google so it would work great for android in terms of the os delivery for all
Why is this in development for :s
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ace9988 said:
Why is this in development for :s
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A very simple example: Tegra 2 can't play 1080 video, Qualcomm APQ8060 can play flawlessly
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Thank you for this.....
hakkinenvthh said:
A very simple example: Tegra 2 can't play 1080 video, Qualcomm APQ8060 can play flawlessly
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There is a guy who thinks he knows more about tablets than most ppl. He's very annoying with the information that he does have. I came across an HP TouchPad and loaded the CM9 Nightly build and was talking about the difference between a device that had the Tigra 2. He was trying to tell me that the Tigra 2 was better but I couldn't find a difference. So now I can go back and show him what I've never even noticed (except for the fact that I think my video is better) seeing as there is a lack of games that are working on ICS 4.0.4 I'm not able to show him anything that looks good. I cant get any HD games working.
If you can let me know what the most compatible game packages I should be looking for with the HP Touch 32 GB please let me know. I've tried just about everything even the Samsung Galaxy II. I get all the way to the game and it just closes.
adreno 220 GPU its 2x more powerful than tegra 2 GPU,
and if you overclocked the touchpad CPU at 1.8ghz will be 50‰ more faster
I've over clocked to 1.5Ghz and she's smooth as a whistle. I'm noticing that none none of the HD games r working is there an update as to when that maybe fixed ? Or am I just using the wrong install files... I've got some HD games for some of my other devices I would love to pay them on this new system :beer:
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I've over clocked to 1.5Ghz and she's smooth as a whistle. I'm noticing that none none of the HD games r working is there an update as to when that maybe fixed ? Or am I just using the wrong install files... I've got some HD games for some of my other devices I would love to pay them on this new system :beer:
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what custom rom use?
because on my touchpad i can play every new and old hd games
I'm using the nightly build 4.0.4 CM9.
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OK the latest update.... I'm not sure what happened or why the games were not working. However after restarting the system (after installing the game) it worked... not sure why.... thanks to everyone for all your help and hard work... I'm wondering when the expected fix for the camera will be out. It will be nice to use Skype on this :beer:
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CPU wise tegra is better just for the fact that they are using a9 cores and the s3 snapdragon uses scorpion cores which are more closely related to the a8. S3 snapdragon @ 1.5 ghz is less than or equal to an a9 based processor running @ 1 GHz.
GPU goes to the snapdragon as its a lot more powerful GPU than the geforce GPU in the tegra... however there is much much more high end games that are tuned in to work with the tegra GPU so in real world performance its about a wash. Do you prefer performance or compatibility.
The one spot that the snapdragon processor shines is battery life. Going back to the s3 running @ 1.5 GHz and the a9 based SoC running @ 1 GHz you'll actually see better battery life from the s3 as the cores are more power efficient, but in the end your not really going to notice the difference unless you plan on playing 1080p videos which is a little bit pointless seeing as our screen isn't even 720p and 1080p video takes up a lot of space.
Long story short its pretty much a wash barring the 1080p video.
Edited because of damn auto correct!
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is there a way to fake a tegra device¿ with the latest nightlys and chainfire i got mothing to work!
or is chainfire working on cm9/
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Helmut_TuT_GuT said:
is there a way to fake a tegra device¿ with the latest nightlys and chainfire i got mothing to work!
or is chainfire working on cm9/
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I don't use chain fire. I'm just using the adreno drivers. Also to spoof as another device u will have to edit your build props. Make sure u do a full backup and backup your build.props
You can use rom toolbox.
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ShadowTech2008 said:
I don't use chain fire. I'm just using the adreno drivers. Also to spoof as another device u will have to edit your build props. Make sure u do a full backup and backup your build.props
You can use rom toolbox.
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This is a useful step by step guide from Reverend Kyle .
http://www.reverendkyle.com/index.php/articles/107-how-to-edit-the-build-prop-file-in-android .
Build.prop Editor (available in play store) is a great way to edit your build.prop. it automatically stores a backup every time you edit as well.
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is there a way to fake a tegra device¿ with the latest nightlys and chainfire i got mothing to work!
or is chainfire working on cm9/
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You can spoof a tegra 2 GPU but not a tegra 3 GPU with chain fire.
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do ihave just to spoof the build or do i have also to install chainfire.?
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do ihave just to spoof the build or do i have also to install chainfire.?
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If your spoofing the GPU then you will need chainfire. If your just doing what I'm doing and simply spoofing the market to games built for the adreno GPU then just edit your build.props
I'm spoofing the market to think I'm a galaxy s2 or Motorola Xoom. They both have the same CPU. Galaxy S2 uses the Tegra 2 signature and the Motorola Xoom uses the Adreno signature. Both of these spoofs do not require me to have the chainfire program. I did install the adreno drivers linked to the original install post.
I'm thinking I going to start to play around with the chainfire GPU spoof options more for game download compatibility. As far as downloading and installing a Tegra 2 game, you will need to spoof the GPU for the download (unless you manually find the correct apk) and the install will also need the GPU spoof. Once the install is done then disable the GPU spoof. Then run the game with your Galaxy spoof or your Xoom spoof.
Please note that I've spoofed my build.props and have not changed it since. I'm currently showing my device as a Motorola Xoom. I'm able to play all the games. Only every now and than do I change it for the game install. Then i put it back and I have no issues. HD games and all.
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Not too long ago, we shared fantastic news that Qualcomm had released the Adreno 2xx GPU Binaries for Ice Cream Sandwich. However one thing that we failed to consider was that these precompiled GPU binaries were compatible only with ARMv7 devices.
Sadly, this left many users with older and less powerful ARMv6 devices out in the cold. Due to having less powerful CPUs, these are devices that could stand to benefit greatly from full GPU hardware acceleration in ICS. Not content with sitting idly by, XDA Forum Member sweetnsour quickly saw fit to create a global petition asking Qualcomm to compile and release the necessary Adreno 2xx GPU binaries to get ARMv6 devices up to speed with ICS back on March 17th.
Less than two weeks later, and thanks largely to sweetnsour’s petition efforts, Qualcomm Senior Staff Engineer Dave Astle—otherwise known as XDA Forum Member myopicrhino—lets us know that Qualcomm has shared the goods with the development community. In other words, we now have the proper Adreno 2xx GPU binaries for ICS on ARMv6 devices.
In the words of the Qualcomm Forum Master:
In order to provide enthusiasts with recent improvements made to Snapdragon’s Adreno graphics driver for the 7×27 based on the ARMv6 ISA, Qualcomm has posted the updated Adreno 200 graphics driver binaries here. It has been tested with the Ice Cream Sandwich CAF release M8960AAAAANLYA1030, but Qualcomm is providing these driver binaries “as is” to those of you who have requested them.
Official Release Information:
This release contains the user-mode driver binaries for Qualcomm’s Adreno 2xx GPU on Google Android Ice Cream Sandwich for ARMv6 based chipsets. It has been tested with the CAF release M8960AAAAANLYA1030. Supports any Adreno 2xx GPU on Android ICS using the ARMv6 chipset (7×27). Google’s libRS (LLVM) does not currently support ARMv6.
Well there you have it, folks. Score this as another big win for the development community. And just as before, we would like to extend our gratitude for Qualcomm for playing nicely with the enthusiast / development community. ARMv6 developers looking to get cracking with the new GPU binaries can find what they’re looking for in Qualcomm’s Mobile Gaming and Graphics page or from myopicrhino’s post.
Qualcomm, thank you for once again showing that you care about your users and the Android development community.
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I am assuming it would be of great help to our dedicated developers working towards ICS on HTC Flyer!
EDIT: HTC Flyer is an ARMv7 device. Apologies for the mistake!
So Cheers!
No. People, get your facts straight. The Flyer doesn't have an ARM6, but an ARMv7 which has its binaries released a while ago.
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No. People, get your facts straight. The Flyer doesn't have an ARM6, but an ARMv7 which has its binaries released a while ago.
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Apologies. I got confused! Thanks for the info.
My phone's lost. I dropped it somewhere last night or maybe someone picked my pocket. It's out of service now, wifi/data off, and it was pattern locked. I think the only way for anyone to use it is to reformat the thing. No "Plan B" and I regret uninstalling one of the security apps which would have wiped it clean with a text message.
I've been watching and learning from this corner of xda-dev ever since I rooted my phone. From Unofficial CM7's to Unofficial CM9's. Without this forum, I would have been stuck with a bricked phone a long time ago. There was a lot of help and I thank those that gave tips on what to do to fix issues.
Thank you to all devs for making our lowly O1 the best that it can be, especially the ones who brought in ICS goodness. I've always procrastinated buying a new phone. Seems like every time I come to a decision, someone makes a major breakthrough with the OS. Was hoping to try adfad666's JellyBean today but well... life's life. I guess this is a sign? LOL
I'll settle down with another part of the forum once I've made up my mind on which phone to get. On a side note, any suggestions? Something a step up from the O1?
HTC one x if you can support it
Or HTC HD 2 galaxy s III
Or what I might get - HTC amaze/one s in the US
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Yeah, I've had my eye on HTC phones. But the ones I want are way out of budget. LOL. I checked pricing for HD2, I think I can manage that. But isn't it a windows phone? I guess you can load Android on it, eh?
Hey, I haven't verbally thanked you, but thank you for your JellyBean goodies post!
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Yeah, I've had my eye on HTC phones. But the ones I want are way out of budget. LOL. I checked pricing for HD2, I think I can manage that. But isn't it a windows phone? I guess you can load Android on it, eh?
Hey, I haven't verbally thanked you, but thank you for your JellyBean goodies post!
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Your welcone
Yeah it has a full jelly bean port and almost every android version ported on it. If you are sense fan like me then it has almost every version of sense available for that 1.5-4.0
And it has windows phone 7 on it too
I had that then I broke it by dropping it into a pool
Lol my old Nokia 3310 survived that then I ran it over with my truck(accidentally)
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ps. be happy that you don't live in the US. they have all them bloatware, really really locked bootloaders, no sideloading apps blah blah blah
really annoying
they don't want you to root your device because then you don't get the same "customer experience" and they also say that you might be "tampering with the network" or "ruining other customers experiences" by you rooting a phone that you paid for. BS
And I thought 3310 were invincible. You sure you weren't testing it's invincibility? :silly: Anyway, thanks for the advise. I'm leaning towards the HD2 the more I'm reading about it. Old phone still packs a punch.
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I'm leaning towards the HD2 the more I'm reading about it. Old phone still packs a punch.
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Well, i would suggest buying a phone with newer chip.
HD2 has QSD8250(Q4 2008). I dont think qualcomm's gonna support it forever(like it did with us)
So, you should check this site.
I recommend
Galaxy Ace Plus 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
LG Optimus L7 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
Any phone applicable to your budget and needs in MSM8255(much better) 1-1.5 GHz Scorpion Adreno 205 Q2 2010
Wait for Ace 2
GobletSky31689 said:
Well, i would suggest buying a phone with newer chip.
HD2 has QSD8250(Q4 2008). I dont think qualcomm's gonna support it forever(like it did with us)
So, you should check this site.
I recommend
Galaxy Ace Plus 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
LG Optimus L7 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A5 Adreno 200 (enhanced) Q4 2011
Any phone applicable to your budget and needs in MSM8255(much better) 1-1.5 GHz Scorpion Adreno 205 Q2 2010
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I would suggest to wait for Galaxy Ace 2 : 800 Mhz Dual Core (2 Cortex A9 cores UNDERCLOCKED) with 768 MB ram and Mali400MP GPU on Novathor U8500 chip and also approx 240dpi 480x800 px 3.8 in screen!! .WOOOW!!! but it does not come ICS out of box...but naaah WHY ARE WE HERE
Processor is underclocked for battery (Same processor as in xperia U but 1 ghz) so Overclocking is a Breeeeze..
Has samsung released drivers for samsung galaxy ace GT-S5830i? As all of us know....we have a different GPU than the normal GT-S5830......i have heard that our GPU is better than the former ace'?
Any help about this would be appreciated
if this is same as SGY (which it is) then it may not have a dedicated GPU..
As far as i know the gpu is not entirely like galaxy y.Our drivers are different..I think broadcom has to release it..
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As far as i know the gpu is not entirely like galaxy y.Our drivers are different..I think broadcom has to release it..
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if there is gpu then there is driver for it in kernel sources and blobs in firmwares
http://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp;jsessionid=4127BB81614787358080E5026BEBE124 can any body tell me what is this then?
if u search for our device there.....it shows some kernel and other files......are these the drivers we are looking for?
Androidnow said:
http://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp;jsessionid=4127BB81614787358080E5026BEBE124 can any body tell me what is this then?
if u search for our device there.....it shows some kernel and other files......are these the drivers we are looking for?
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Those are only incomplete kernel sources that no one got ever to boot without source modifications.
The GT-S5830i the phone uses CPU for graphic rendering and it does not have a GPU and uses 90%(with the exception of the display RAM, internal memory) of the same hardware as Galaxy Y - proof? you can boot Y's ROM's on 5830i and vice versa.
Androidnow said:
Has samsung released drivers for samsung galaxy ace GT-S5830i? As all of us know....we have a different GPU than the normal GT-S5830......i have heard that our GPU is better than the former ace'?
Any help about this would be appreciated
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You heard wrong. The i model uses a Samsung CPU that's faster than 5830's, but because its used as a GPU replacement too the speed difference is minor
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Those are only incomplete kernel sources that no one got ever to boot without source modifications.
The GT-S5830i the phone uses CPU for graphic rendering and it does not have a GPU and uses 90%(with the exception of the display RAM, internal memory) of the same hardware as Galaxy Y - proof? you can boot Y's ROM's on 5830i and vice versa.
You heard wrong. The i model uses a Samsung CPU that's faster than 5830's, but because its used as a GPU replacement too the speed difference is minor
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Then whats broadcom videocore 4 thing?
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Androidnow said:
Then whats broadcom videocore 4 thing?
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There is no seperate gpu. This Broadcom Videocore 4 variant has been added into cpu itself so that cpu can perform graphical calculations.
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Then why on earth samsung had to name it Ace....it could have been galaxy Y plus or advance
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Then why on earth samsung had to name it Ace....it could have been galaxy Y plus or advance
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Lol...ask Samsung
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IF the Ace "i" has the same hardware as the SGY then......
CPU = Broadcom BCM21553 ARM11 832 MHz processor, ARMv6
CPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/BCM2155*-datasheet.html
GPU = Broadcom BCM2763 VideoCore IV LPDDR2 128MB
GPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/Bcm2763*-datasheet.html
According to Broadcom the processor/gpu is capable of encoding and decoding at full 1080p resolution.
I found this website of the SGY being overclocked to 900mhz.... he/she also supplies the kernel that he/she modified....if its any use to us.
http://advanced-droid.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/galaxy-y-s5360-overclock-900mhz.html
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IF the Ace "i" has the same hardware as the SGY then......
CPU = Broadcom BCM21553 ARM11 832 MHz processor, ARMv6
CPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/BCM2155*-datasheet.html
GPU = Broadcom BCM2763 VideoCore IV LPDDR2 128MB
GPU Data sheet = http://www.datasheetarchive.com/Bcm2763*-datasheet.html
According to Broadcom the processor/gpu is capable of encoding and decoding at full 1080p resolution.
I found this website of the SGY being overclocked to 900mhz.... he/she also supplies the kernel that he/she modified....if its any use to us.
http://advanced-droid.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/galaxy-y-s5360-overclock-900mhz.html
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BCM2763? Nope
The i model and Galaxy Y has Broadcom VideoCore IV HW there is not much info what is it.
And interesting fact that's useful for gaming on these phones is that it supports only OpenGL ES 1.1, just as any software based GPU, because higher OpenGL ES version is not possible without a GPU.
OpenGL ES 1.1 was used back in Android 1.6 Donut days in 2009/early 2010
The original Ace has Adreno 200 which supports OpenGL ES 2.0 and is used in the cheap version of Xperia Play and a lot of other smartphones even today
OpenGL ES 1.1 VS OpenGL ES 2.0 is the same like DirectX 7 VS DirectX 9c
Samsung like " oh my gawd, we have no more qualcom processor left to put in the SGA"
"This broadcoms thinggy looks nice"
*puts the processor into SGA*
"This my friend, no longer just a galaxy ace, it is galaxy ace with an 'I'.
*sells SGA*
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To think back that SAMSUNG actually markets/advertise galaxy ace of having a powerfull qualcomm cpu, i wonder how the ace with i are marketed
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Samsung like " oh my gawd, we have no more qualcom processor left to put in the SGA"
"This broadcoms thinggy looks nice"
*puts the processor into SGA*
"This my friend, no longer just a galaxy ace, it is galaxy ace with an 'I'.
*sells SGA*
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To think back that SAMSUNG actually markets/advertise galaxy ace of having a powerfull qualcomm cpu, i wonder how the ace with i are marketed
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Yeah Qualcomm stopped supporting and manufacturing ARMv6 chipsets in the end of 2011 so Samsung needed a replacement.
Maybe this is the reason my friend's new galaxy ace is on GB firmware not froyo.
It is quite a weird because she doesnt know how to use kies or odin.
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The SGY and the SGAi does not have a separate GPU chip.
Instead it has a Broadcom BCM21553 multimedia baseband processor, that not only has an integrated ARM11 processor running at 832mhz, but also a separate GPU within the same architecture. The same as the Qualcomm msm7227 and Adreno 200 chip.
While Qualcom chips are classed as "system-on-a-chip". The one chip die that handles the processing, graphics processing, usb interface, camera sound.
The Broadcom classes its chip as a '3G phone-on-a-chip'. Im assuming, reading the literature, that this chip takes care of the Processing, Graphics, 2G, 3G data connection and voice data........ although it doesn't mention anything about usb interfaces ect.
It also dose mention that it supports OpenGL 2.0
info from here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Cellular/3G-Baseband-Processors/BCM21553
and here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Mobile-Multimedia/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2763
VideoCore Wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore
Video Core Broadcom link
http://www.broadcom.com/products/technology/mobmm_videocore.php
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The SGY and the SGAi does not have a separate GPU chip.
Instead it has a Broadcom BCM21553 multimedia baseband processor, that not only has an integrated ARM11 processor running at 832mhz, but also a separate GPU within the same architecture. The same as the Qualcomm msm7227 and Adreno 200 chip.
While Qualcom chips are classed as "system-on-a-chip". The one chip die that handles the processing, graphics processing, usb interface, camera sound.
The Broadcom classes its chip as a '3G phone-on-a-chip'. Im assuming, reading the literature, that this chip takes care of the Processing, Graphics, 2G, 3G data connection and voice data........ although it doesn't mention anything about usb interfaces ect.
It also dose mention that it supports OpenGL 2.0
info from here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Cellular/3G-Baseband-Processors/BCM21553
and here
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Mobile-Multimedia/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2763
VideoCore Wiki link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore
Video Core Broadcom link
http://www.broadcom.com/products/technology/mobmm_videocore.php
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Then why somehow benchmarks and system informations say that its extreamly crappy if its capable of 1080p video?
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....30i Galaxy Ace&D2=Samsung GT-S5830 Galaxy Ace
Look at GL_EXTENSIONS it doesn't even support something as old as cube maps that were introduced in 1996 or tiled rendering or paletted textures and the max texure resolution is 2048.
So correction its DirectX 6.1 VS DirectX 9c. :laugh:
According to this website it does support OpenGL ES 2.0 so i was wrong about that.
tomsons26 said:
Then why somehow benchmarks and system informations say that its extreamly crappy if its capable of 1080p video?
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....30i Galaxy Ace&D2=Samsung GT-S5830 Galaxy Ace
Look at GL_EXTENSIONS it doesn't even support something as old as cube maps that were introduced in 1996 or tiled rendering or paletted textures and the max texure resolution is 2048.
So correction its DirectX 6.1 VS DirectX 9c. :laugh:
According to this website it does support OpenGL ES 2.0 so i was wrong about that.
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There must be some code missing from the kernel limiting the capabilities if the chip. Damn Samsung. Which is why we don't have a complete kernel to compile.
Imagine if we had a "fully working" kernel....... It would compete with their more expensive products.
Here is an article and Youtube video I've found showing the awesomeness of the Videocore gpu (its dated 2009 and shows Videocore III not the new Videocore IV that our phone supposedly has).
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...-video-and-gaming-to-mobile-devices-20090112/
I think that the SGAi and SGY are a base model to see how this chip performs in the real world, and future phones made by Samsung will be using this chipset to its full potential, and that might be why they haven't released a fully working kernel.
Then again this is all speculation and i could be wrong.
[email protected] said:
There must be some code missing from the kernel limiting the capabilities if the chip. Damn Samsung. Which is why we don't have a complete kernel to compile.
Imagine if we had a "fully working" kernel....... It would compete with their more expensive products.
Here is an article and Youtube video I've found showing the awesomeness of the Videocore gpu (its dated 2009 and shows Videocore III not the new Videocore IV that our phone supposedly has).
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...-video-and-gaming-to-mobile-devices-20090112/
I think that the SGAi and SGY are a base model to see how this chip performs in the real world, and future phones made by Samsung will be using this chipset to its full potential, and that might be why they haven't released a fully working kernel.
Then again this is all speculation and i could be wrong.
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I think you are right. Videocore 4 seems to be something better than adreno....its for samsung's new age devices. But until and unless we derive its full potential its of no use. We need to pursue samsung to help us in doing that. Is there a way so that they are forced to release it asap?
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Androidnow said:
I think you are right. Videocore 4 seems to be something better than adreno....its for samsung's new age devices. But until and unless we derive its full potential its of no use. We need to pursue samsung to help us in doing that. Is there a way so that they are forced to release it asap?
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Go to court and sue them
Friends, I was eager to get the One X+ , and I love flashing new roms etc.. so I wanted to ask, since it has a Tegra 3, and tegra 3 is not as open as Qcomm and omap , how do you think the development would be once htc asus etc. who are using the tegra3 chips stops updating future android versions..will it be developmental friendly for a longer run?
If tegra does not release sources etc. wouldn't it be an issue later on? Please do advice. thanks!
If i remember correctly on the original one x, the tegra drivers were constantly being updated every month or so and it was always included in the latest kernels. With the new JB update the tegra 3 gpu has been updated to a vastly improved driver resulting in a 10-15% speed increase, development is pretty good with the tegra 3 gpu. Its not that the gpu isn`t powerful, but the reason why people get game lags is either due to scaling or the game being unoptimized for tegra. Scaling issues is due to the gpu clock being in sync with the cpu clock, for example temple run will lag because it does not recquire much cpu and thus the gpu will remain idle yet shadowgun thd will not because the cpu and gpu will scale up to max clock. The gpu can be decoupled with the renovate gaming boost app which is probably one of the best tegra developments ever made, hope i helped.
ryanjsoo said:
If i remember correctly on the original one x, the tegra drivers were constantly being updated every month or so and it was always included in the latest kernels. With the new JB update the tegra 3 gpu has been updated to a vastly improved driver resulting in a 10-15% speed increase, development is pretty good with the tegra 3 gpu. Its not that the gpu isn`t powerful, but the reason why people get game lags is either due to scaling or the game being unoptimized for tegra. Scaling issues is due to the gpu clock being in sync with the cpu clock, for example temple run will lag because it does not recquire much cpu and thus the gpu will remain idle yet shadowgun thd will not because the cpu and gpu will scale up to max clock. The gpu can be decoupled with the renovate gaming boost app which is probably one of the best tegra developments ever made, hope i helped.
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Thanks for the info mate. appreciate it ! so even with the next releases of android, if nexus 7 or htc doesnt update them ( or updates them late ), will developers find it easy to upbring aosp and sense based roms easily?
androidindian said:
Thanks for the info mate. appreciate it ! so even with the next releases of android, if nexus 7 or htc doesnt update them ( or updates them late ), will developers find it easy to upbring aosp and sense based roms easily?
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most of the development for the tegra chipset is within the kernel and provided that the one x+ receives similar treatement to the original one x which it should given that the hardware is almost identical, developers should be able to easliy update drivers as well as creating custom configs and tweaks for the tegra gpu.
ryanjsoo said:
most of the development for the tegra chipset is within the kernel and provided that the one x+ receives similar treatement to the original one x which it should given that the hardware is almost identical, developers should be able to easliy update drivers as well as creating custom configs and tweaks for the tegra gpu.
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Thanks for the info. Im trying to collect as much info. as possible before getting a new device, since Samsung Galaxy exynos platform has been creating major issues with development with new android versions, I want to make sure that the next device I go for has a strong developmental platform.
So , if the one x or one x+ does not receive a 5.0 android upgrade from htc, would it get difficult with the closed nature of tegra for developers on xda to bring future versions to this device?
ryanjsoo said:
most of the development for the tegra chipset is within the kernel and provided that the one x+ receives similar treatement to the original one x which it should given that the hardware is almost identical, developers should be able to easliy update drivers as well as creating custom configs and tweaks for the tegra gpu.
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not all is the same in the onex+ the tegra 3 cpu is ap37 and in the normal one x it's ap33 i think ...not 100% indentical but the most can be done by devs if the sources are also out for the right kernel