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Hi all,
I'm planning to buy Samsung Galaxy S, but the problem that the international version is pricey so I desided to buy either vibrant from T-Mobile or Captivate from at&t. I really confused I don't know which one should I choose Captivate or T-Mobile !
Is there any major difference between the phones or they are exactly same expect the design ?
I saw that Vibrate comes preloaded with the sims 3 and avatar.
Is there any specialty in Captivate ?!
Help me
The_wolf88 said:
Hi all,
I'm planning to buy Samsung Galaxy S, but the problem that the international version is pricey so I desided to buy either vibrant from T-Mobile or Captivate from at&t. I really confused I don't know which one should I choose Captivate or T-Mobile !
Is there any major difference between the phones or they are exactly same expect the design ?
I saw that Vibrate comes preloaded with the sims 3 and avatar.
Is there any specialty in Captivate ?!
Help me
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The main differences are:
• The Vibrant allows side-loading of non-market apps. The Captivate does not.
• The Vibrant has radios for T-Mobile and AT&T 3G. The Captivate has radios for AT&T 3G
Tarzanman said:
The main differences are:
• The Vibrant allows side-loading of non-market apps. The Captivate does not.
• The Vibrant has radios for T-Mobile and AT&T 3G. The Captivate has radios for AT&T 3G
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you can side-load apps on the captivate, you just have to download an app for it.
and the captivate has a better build quality, full metal case.
Berserk87 said:
you can side-load apps on the captivate, you just have to download an app for it.
and the captivate has a better build quality, full metal case.
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Feels the same to me. Just different back. Plus vibrant does att 3g. Captivate just has...a fancy camera app plus I hate how the captivate has the buttons too close to the bottom of the screen
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I like the look of the Captivate better but it is not pleasant to hold.
Remember, the Vibrant only has ATT 3G in areas where ATT uses the 1900Mhz Band for 3G. Many areas use only 850Mhz for ATT 3G, in that case you wouldn't get ATT 3G on your Vibrant. I say this from personal experience.
Out of the box, you can install non-Market app on the Vibrant. Can't do that on the Captivate. Check Captivate forum. I guess AT&T learn too much crap from Apple.
Another thing to consider is that AT&T has a data cap on its data plans. T-Mobile does not.
Vibrant is a LOT lighter and comes with exchangeable back covers - pink and the default one. It makes no difference if you are a guy though. But I really like the pink cover.
Also depending on where you are, T-mobile's network can be much more reliable and faster than AT&T. Especially if you are under its HSPA+ coverage.
I think it's worth pointing out that while TMo won't cut you off for using a certain amount of data, they will throttle your speed if you use more than 10 Gb a month. Also, their data plan terms (like everyone else's) are written such that they're legally able to cut you off if they wanted to for "disproportionately heavy" use, but I haven't heard of anyone experiencing that yet.
Thanks guys for your replies..
I won't use them in US ! So is the captivate going to work on my service provider 3G network or not?
Another thing I found that the captivate is cheaper than Vibrant by approximately $100 so does the differences between the two models deserve that amount ?!
You need to find out in the country you are gonna use it, what kind of frequencies they use, especially for 3G in the quad band, that will be the decision maker factor you need!!!!!
Captivate looks better, and I paid 500+ for my Vibrant...
I have both and in my opinion my Vibrant feels WAY better in my hand. Plus something about the design of the Captivate makes it feel larger then my Vibrant. I'm lucky though, in my area there is a lot of 1900mhz I guess because my Vibrant is unlocked on AT&T and I haven't even noticed a difference as far as 3G connectivity goes.
Oddest thing though, if I disable 3G data on both of them my Vibrant will stomp my Captivate in the mud. Something about it handles EDGE far better. Which can come in handy if you find yourself out in the middle of nowhere with no 3G.
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opiomorph said:
I think it's worth pointing out that while TMo won't cut you off for using a certain amount of data, they will throttle your speed if you use more than 10 Gb a month. Also, their data plan terms (like everyone else's) are written such that they're legally able to cut you off if they wanted to for "disproportionately heavy" use, but I haven't heard of anyone experiencing that yet.
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You'd have to download a whole lot of torrents to get to 10GB of usage on your cell phone lol.
if u like ur fone heavier and bulkier go wit the captivate but from my experience wit the vibrant i love it, its super light and thin i would say go wit the vibrant
I picked the captivate (Im in Australia) because of the bigger internal memory (16Gb > 2Gb) and I preferred the look.
Personal preference mate. Everyone will justify their reason for choosing what they did (duh). Get a feel for both, look at the plans for both, and pick the one that suits you better......or you could always toss a coin...
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You'd have to download a whole lot of torrents to get to 10GB of usage on your cell phone lol.
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I think a lot of people use tethering for laptop a lot. I personally do it every time when I'm on the go
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ozy944 said:
I picked the captivate (Im in Australia) because of the bigger internal memory (16Gb > 2Gb) and I preferred the look.
Personal preference mate. Everyone will justify their reason for choosing what they did (duh). Get a feel for both, look at the plans for both, and pick the one that suits you better......or you could always toss a coin...
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The vibrant has 16gb also.
opiomorph said:
I think it's worth pointing out that while TMo won't cut you off for using a certain amount of data, they will throttle your speed if you use more than 10 Gb a month. Also, their data plan terms (like everyone else's) are written such that they're legally able to cut you off if they wanted to for "disproportionately heavy" use, but I haven't heard of anyone experiencing that yet.
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This is true UNLESS, you are on a business plan, they have never throttled me, not that I go over that very often but I have tested it, and I asked one of their "business specialists" about it .....
Having a tough time deciding which of these 2 phones I should get. I will be modding and all of that. Does either have better rom support or is better for modding?
Would the extra 256MB of RAM in the mytouch 4G even be noticeable, or ever come in play? And is the galaxy display NOTICEABLY better than the 4G? the extra 0.2" to me is not a huge deal at all. Honestly, for one hand operation I think the galaxy may be too big actually. Having camera flash is nice... does one take better quality pictures though?
So torn between the two. Virtually exact same price to buy on craigslist right now. I would be using it on the WIND network in canada so I'm not even sure if I'd be able to use the HSDA+ or not. Mind you 21 or 14.4 Mbps doesn't even matter....
The main thing probably would actually be if either of these devices have better rom support or are better for modding. Can anyone help me out??
I wouldn't buy both of them as a motorolan but from my experiences with both brands, i would get the mythouch 4g. It is overally better cause of xtra ram and better build quality.
Oh, I should also mention that since I'll be using the phone on WIND I can only use T-Mobile phones. So I don't know if I really even have a good Motorola Android option.
Lean towards to HTC models which include 1700mhz 3g bands. If atrix had 1700mhz i would suggest that but like you said, motorola and t-mobile broke up after the Cliq2.
Hello all!
I've been reading through this forum and wanted to ask you all a few questions.
First, let me start by saying I have been to a local ATT store and played with the Note. I found it to be a perfect fit in my hand. The screen size and resolution is flat out amazing. I also looked at the specs and found them to be on par with most devices these days. However, I have read that the processor in the ATT version is a Snapdragon with an okay GPU chip...any thoughts? The internal storage is 16GB and up to 32GB external (although in this forum, I have seen it as high as 64GB)...good to go as well. No default notification indicator...boo, but not a deal breaker and an app can fix that. I also have read that the camera is okay, but can be tweaked to make it better.
Next, I am not new to tweaking my devices...actually, I love too! I read, read, read everything and usually don't have any problems. I am definitely a power/advanced user and do much more then text and check email. I use devices to fullest extent as possible.
I am not asking you all to tell me to buy this device or switch networks, but instead I'm asking you all for real world answers. So here are my questions.
1. Looking through the forums, I saw about 3 solid custom ROMs and several stock rooted ROMs. My question is, do you all have a solid base for development? I also saw that there is no AOSP CM7 ROM for this device either...is that correct? With ICS expected on this device soon, will there be development (the international version has ICS already I believe)? I'm rocking the OG HTC EVO 4G and development is rock solid...even with the device about to turn 2yrs old (6/4/12)...so development is a huge deal for me.
2. Okay, Sprint doesn't have the best network and 4G/WiMax is a total joke. When I was at the local ATT store, I ran several speed tests on the display Note (using ATT's LTE) and was floored by the down/up speeds! My question is how is battery life with it connected to LTE all the time AND using the crap out of it. I ask this, because with my EVO, I very rarely use 4G/WiMax. We can turn it on/off at will thru settings or a widget. Also, I always connect to my WiFi at home. It looks like on the Note via a custom ROM, turning LTE on/off is controlled through the build.prop...is this correct? I keep chargers around, but just curious.
3. I don't use this feature that often, but it's always good to have...tethering. With my EVO, most if not all custom ROMs have the ability to tether (USB or wireless) baked in. So what are the options with the Note? I have never paid for this feature and don't intend to either.
4. I haven't peeked into the theme section yet, but I'm sure there are themes for this device...right?
Edit- Late addition question...kernels. I use OC/UV/SBC kernels on my EVO...so what is the current state of kernels with this device?
Before I end this dissertation, I want to say this forum seems to be more mature...always a good thing. Also, I have several device choices to consider, but I am strongly considering getting away from CDMA carriers and join the rest of the world on GSM...not TMo, been there done that. I'm on the fence with getting this device or waiting for the HTC One X version or the GNex coming to ATT and Sprint (if I decide to stay). I'm just doing some research to make a very good decision.
Oh and thanks for posting the price from Fryers...$199 is much better than $299 !
Thanks in advance to all that answer and Android rocks!!
I owned the Evo 4G before moving to the Evo 3D and after that the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon.
If the size of the screen is not that attractive enough for you to sway you from the One X or the Galaxy Nexus then I would advise you wait for the Galaxy S3. The S3 (rumors of course) is shaping out to be superior to any of those devices.
As for your actual first question, yes the ATT and the International version of the Note have two different processors. At the time, Samsung's Exynos cpu in the Int Note did not have a LTE chip compatible with our LTE spectrum here in the states. So they switched to the Snapdragon chip for ATT. Yes the snapdragon performs less than the Int counterpart but chances are you will see no difference in real world use.
1. Development for this phone is still in its early stages. Coming from the EVO I can tell you development like that is the exception, not the rule. There are tons of the phones and only the most popular phones get the same attention. The phone came out a little over a month ago.
Also this phone will never be at the same level of popularity as some of the other ATT phones (S2 for example). CM9 is being worked on now for the Note. Maybe we might have a taste of it a month or so.
2. ATT has a better network compared to Sprint. HSPA+ is more than enough to beat Sprint's 3G and WiMax to the floor. One of the advantages is the fact you can talk on the phone while surfing the web or look up directions ect. Battery life is actually superior in respect to CDMA LTE devices. Since all radios are on the same chip you save battery life. You can turn off LTE when not in a LTE area but there are no noticeable impacts on battery life.
3. If you would like to use tethering all you have to do is freeze and apk (tethering manager I believe) and that's it. You can tether as you please.
4. There are a couple of themes for the different roms that exist. Also themes are proportional to the number of roms. Keep in mind themes are different for Samsung phones. There are no themes in apk form. All themes must be flashed.
Huge thanks for taking the time to respond. I played with the Note again today and I was able to one hand text and navigate around with ease. I'm sure I will end up switching to ATT for a GSM device. I was at Best Buy and they would not honor Fry's price...I plan to check with a local ATT store next.
I plan on buying a new device after 5/3 (my contract with Sprint ends), so I plan on watching for the S3 as well. If anyone else wants to chime in, please feel free. Again, thanks for your well written response!
How do you turn off LTE?
Hey there, I am a T-mobile customer.
Do you guys think it's worth getting the AT&T version now or wait for the T-MO. I'd rather not be on a contract and I have no way of knowing if the T-mo version would be $650-$700 upon release w/o contract.
What do you guys think?
You can get international version now and it would work on T mobile. I would check out what Galaxy S III has to offer before i make my decision if i were you
linuxchan6 said:
You can get international version now and it would work on T mobile. I would check out what Galaxy S III has to offer before i make my decision if i were you
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I'm not impressed by the S III. I would make good use of the S-Pen and related apps for work. The larger screen size helps too. It's not too large of a device for me. Considering the S III will most likely be neutered over here in the US, I'm writing it off. It's not the phone it should have been and it's mostly software
The international version wouldn't receive HSPA+ due to lack of 1700mhz base band. I'd just edge and that's not going to work. Otherwise, I'd have picked one up already.
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The AT&T wouldnt work properly without mod. Id say if you want reliability, get the tmo version.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
actually i would say get it now atnt i717. 2 reasons. 1) obviously you would have it now and it would work. Notice i didnt say work well. It really depends where you live and the data is not always consistent but around a range. I always get around 1-1.5 mbps down but there are times when its crazy like .5 mbps and .2 and sometimes even 3.5mbps. its flaky, but it works and its still good enough not that slow you can still get email and check apps. 2) Once the tmobile version comes out im almost postive that it can be ported to the atnt and make it work the same. I mean hardware is going to be the same the only things different would be the modem (which we need , a stable tmobile modem), the tmobile branding, and the bloatware.
But in the end its up to you. Depends if you can wait or not. I personally dont see any reason to wait. Onl if it wasnt possible to port the modem to this rom when tmobile note comes out.
circuit.007 said:
actually i would say get it now atnt i717. 2 reasons. 1) obviously you would have it now and it would work. Notice i didnt say work well. It really depends where you live and the data is not always consistent but around a range. I always get around 1-1.5 mbps down but there are times when its crazy like .5 mbps and .2 and sometimes even 3.5mbps. its flaky, but it works and its still good enough not that slow you can still get email and check apps. 2) Once the tmobile version comes out im almost postive that it can be ported to the atnt and make it work the same. I mean hardware is going to be the same the only things different would be the modem (which we need , a stable tmobile modem), the tmobile branding, and the bloatware.
But in the end its up to you. Depends if you can wait or not. I personally dont see any reason to wait. Onl if it wasnt possible to port the modem to this rom when tmobile note comes out.
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I can get between 6mbps and 1.0 mbps now on an exhibit II 4g and the phone is super buggy anyways. As long as it's fast enough to go on the web, always be able to make & receive calls/texts , I'm happy. My area has great signal strength, in general, so I think I won't have issues. I don't live in the sticks.
I agree that the hardware will be the same. No 1.4ghz Exynous us USA guys, so it should be able to be ported over anyways since the modem suppports the same frequency.
Hell, wouldn't someone do a stock rip of T-mo's bloated OS (and an unbloated version) that could be flashed to the AT&T version anyways?
Yeah they probably would. Just port the whole rom over and if they wanted to they probably would remove the bloat too.
I ended up ordering an unlocked, white i717 w/ a couple extra batteries / chargers / cases.
Now I just have to flash the radio (will to check out the radio thread now) and look into roms.
Thanks guys.
My sister is getting ready to get her very first smarphone. She looked at several and the one she wanted that fit her budget was the S II. I know it is LTE but is HSPA+. Since I recently switched from Sprint to and ATT LTE device I am not familar with HSPA at all. Are the data speeds decent? She probably won't root this either so I was wondering how it is out of the box for a new user. Also any known issues to be aware of?
Dont worry she's probably not using the phone to run a server or to stream HD content so she'll be more than fine with the speed provided. Those speeds exceed the needs of twitter, fb, yt, navigation or any other use your sister will be giving to her phone.
Cheers
ElAguila said:
My sister is getting ready to get her very first smarphone. She looked at several and the one she wanted that fit her budget was the S II. I know it is LTE but is HSPA+. Since I recently switched from Sprint to and ATT LTE device I am not familar with HSPA at all. Are the data speeds decent? She probably won't root this either so I was wondering how it is out of the box for a new user. Also any known issues to be aware of?
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I would add there are 2 different AT&T Galaxy S2 one being i777 and the other is i727 (Skyrocket LTE) I would recommend the sgh-1777 but other people will tell you different....when you said " I know it is LTE but is HSPA+" did you mean NOT LTE? With LTE will be i727....GL
EDIT: There are some issues with the ICS update in the kernel here is a link with some info you can read just make sure before she does any updates do some research...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746181