Hey guys, can you explain in short and SIMPLE terms the difference regarding the results of these 2 rooting methods in the DEV Sticky:
1. [ROOT] RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter | Updated 06.04.12 Automated root
method. Unlock with custom recovery and superuser.
2. How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux] - by Zedomax
does one give more access or is preferable over the other? or will both give you the same result with a different way achieving it?
Help would be appreciated!!! THANKS!
I think one is just for Windows and as easy as clicking the file open, while the other is a little more complicated because you have to do a few quick commands, but it does work on all systems, Win/Mac/Linux
Could be wrong though.
edit: Woops, I think the RegawMOD will give you a custom recovery as well, while the other Zedomax just gives root.
The first method actually unlocks the device with HTC and adds a custom recovery(TWRP)so that you can flash ROMs and whatnot. The second option just roots and installs superuser and busybox.
alexwick said:
Hey guys, can you explain in short and SIMPLE terms the difference regarding the results of these 2 rooting methods in the DEV Sticky:
1. [ROOT] RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter | Updated 06.04.12 Automated root
method. Unlock with custom recovery and superuser.
2. How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux] - by Zedomax
does one give more access or is preferable over the other? or will both give you the same result with a different way achieving it?
Help would be appreciated!!! THANKS!
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I think Zedomax just roots your device and regawMod roots and unlocks your device with HTC dev. All depends what u want ... Root only or root and unlock
Regawmod does access the unlock features from HTC dev and will void your HTC company warranty but will allow you to install roms because it also installs a custom recovery
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Edit: I don't want to spread misinformation, so I'll stay out of it.
alexwick said:
Hey guys, can you explain in short and SIMPLE terms the difference regarding the results of these 2 rooting methods in the DEV Sticky:
1. [ROOT] RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter | Updated 06.04.12 Automated root
method. Unlock with custom recovery and superuser.
2. How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux] - by Zedomax
does one give more access or is preferable over the other? or will both give you the same result with a different way achieving it?
Help would be appreciated!!! THANKS!
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Regaws method gives you an unlocked bootloader a custom recovery superuser and busybox. Where as zedomaxes only gives you superuser and busybox and you have to go to htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader manually to install a custom recovery of your choice. In all honesty go with regaws method its super fast and super easy its litterally one click and it runs itself. I was one his testers and it was by far the most painless root and unlock ive ever done.
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What if you rooted with zedomax can you use regaws to unlock bootloader? If no, then how can I unlock bootloader?
djscissorhands said:
What if you rooted with zedomax can you use regaws to unlock bootloader? If no, then how can I unlock bootloader?
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Yes, you can run Regaws right over Zedomaxs root.
Thanks for all these great answers.... Now.... To be also clear here.... Regaws WILL.. (technically and practically) void your warranty???
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So since both go through HTCDev and store your phone's serial number, it really doesn't matter if you use Zedomax first vs. using Regaw's method (which uses dummy HTCDev accounts). I only want to make sure because I'd prefer to do a TB backup before wiping my phone.
But I thought unlocking w/ HTCDev wiped data, so if they both do that, is there any way to back up my apps before I root?
alexwick said:
Thanks for all these great answers.... Now.... To be also clear here.... Regaws WILL.. (technically and practically) void your warranty???
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It will void your HTC "factory" warranty but if u have sprint tep then you can use the unroot and relock methods posted in the threads and you should be able to return them to sprint for repairs and such
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What if you rooted with zedomax can you use regaws to unlock bootloader? If no, then how can I unlock bootloader?
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Yes yoou can
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SilverZero said:
So since both go through HTCDev and store your phone's serial number, it really doesn't matter if you use Zedomax first vs. using Regaw's method (which uses dummy HTCDev accounts). I only want to make sure because I'd prefer to do a TB backup before wiping my phone.
But I thought unlocking w/ HTCDev wiped data, so if they both do that, is there any way to back up my apps before I root?
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Root wit zedomaxes first install tb backup then run regaws
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In addition to what's been said above, I suggest downloading both and closely examining the code.
Then, try to understand each step (or ask if you don't), then do it manually. Understanding the steps will help you in the future if/when there are problems.
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I have to admit that I'm a little confused. I'm just about to meet a guy to trade my current phone for the 3D.
Some of the things I'm reading lead me to believe that unlocking with the HTC method, rooting,etc will NOT let me run ICS once it's released.
If I get a phone on 1.50 today and unlock and then root using the posted methods, does that keep me from being able to run ICS ever?
If no, why wouldn't I want to use the HTC method?
As an aside, will wi-fi tether work with 4G if I run wifi tether?
Please help!
Thans
You will be ok. If your cell comes with 1.5 you can still root using htc method and you will be able to have ics and will be able to tether as well.
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colestein said:
I have to admit that I'm a little confused. I'm just about to meet a guy to trade my current phone for the 3D.
Some of the things I'm reading lead me to believe that unlocking with the HTC method, rooting,etc will NOT let me run ICS once it's released.
If I get a phone on 1.50 today and unlock and then root using the posted methods, does that keep me from being able to run ICS ever?
If no, why wouldn't I want to use the HTC method?
As an aside, will wi-fi tether work with 4G if I run wifi tether?
Please help!
Thans
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The method for flashing ROMs with the hboot 1.50 is that you flash it differently (through fastboot) though there are many guides out now that make it even more simpler. Anyway, the guides out now make rooting and flashing a piece of cake so don't worry.
1.50 S-ON = no worries, one more step, all good
Thanks Guys. I'm freaked out but am going to give it a try. After having a Photon and an Epic Touch, I'm so glad I have my 3D back, even on 1.50 bootloader. I missed this phone.
unlock coming soon
hboot 1.5 will be unlocked soon. and all is good with having s on unlock from htc. just another step!
Idk I'm not getting my hopes up on the new 1.5 hb unlock. You can flash roms in recovery the kernel won't flash tho. Fortunately this is android so there's an app for that.
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I know, i know...probably sick of these questions by now...
So i typically went the s-off un-official root methods with evo/3vo. Im thinking this time around i want to take a different approach as my needs have changed.
Im much more interested in keeping stock rom/kernel for the time being and being able to use root apps (like tether).
The grey area for me is exactly what does the HTC method of unlock allow me to do? I understand its not S-off.
Is it possible to root my phone and still take OTA's? (via HTC unlock or other methods)
Lastly what is the downside to HTC dev unlock? i understand it marks the phone in some way as unlocked and voids the warranty?
thanks
I know for a fact you could have root and not have to do the HTC unlock.
So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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Unlocking will allow you to: replace recovery, which opens up to much more you can do.
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Eat it iPhone said:
So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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Unlock allows you to flash custom roms, like the Viper Rom.
Direct form HTC's bootloader unlock FAQ guide
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
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Eat it iPhone said:
So what exactly does HTC unlock do then, is there a way to root and still get ota updates?
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I'm surprised no one has answered your questions. If you're just rooted with a stock ROM you should still get ota's
shook187 said:
I'm surprised no one has answered your questions. If you're just rooted with a stock ROM you should still get ota's
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Thanks ! I'm totally new to the scene (smart phones in general, must less the root scene). While I'm fairly computer literate, I feel like a toddler going "Ooo what's this? " "Why?" "Why?" "what's that? "
Not trying to be a jerk, but any thread with a [Q] should go in Q&A.
I'm more shocked there isn't a s-off wip thread yet however many people haven't git their phone either..
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Not trying to be a jerk, but any thread with a [Q] should go in Q&A.
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That would eliminate 90 percent of the thread on here.
I agree, meant to put in q&a. If a mod could move it.
So what's s-off give me that HTC dev doesn't?
Can ne 1 confirm plain root and ota working?
Thanks all
Eat it iPhone said:
I agree, meant to put in q&a. If a mod could move it.
So what's s-off give me that HTC dev doesn't?
Can ne 1 confirm plain root and ota working?
Thanks all
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s-off allows you to flash radio's and kernels. Unlocking only allows you to flash Roms, and other things that don't effect the kernel or radio images.
IE, none of the aosp roms would be able to be flashed without s-off, because they use different kernels than the stock one.
Root works, and I have installed viperRom and it works well with a few mods that the stock rom doesnt have.
oh crap!! I didn't even think about not being able to flash AOSP without S-off. My only intention buying this phone was to be able to run AOSP ASAP.
But wait, are you sure about not flashing kernels? I thought people with the Evo 3d and S-on were able to flash kernels via flash_image GUI?
sent from my Evo LTE, usually.
So i rooted using the script...painless.
Just what i wanted, root but stock everything. Also picked up a app i saw in the apps section called voodoo something or other, that lets u temp unroot for updates/backup root. Sounds cool, hope it works. SU, wireless tether, and titanium all seem to work fine.
Maybe its just me, but i did notice the phone has some stutters now during startup and shortly after...prob just me
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s-off allows you to flash radio's and kernels. Unlocking only allows you to flash Roms, and other things that don't effect the kernel or radio images.
IE, none of the aosp roms would be able to be flashed without s-off, because they use different kernels than the stock one.
Root works, and I have installed viperRom and it works well with a few mods that the stock rom doesnt have.
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Like your example of aosp not being able to be flashed with out S-OFF
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I thought I read we can still root this software update
But have to use HTC dev plus a script
Anyone confirm this and have a link to what I need to root the update
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Yeah but it uses the HTC unlock, so...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Root will always be available.
HTC gave us a root method
But the annoying thing is that HTC gave us a root method that wipes your phone first.
I'm still waiting for a new temp root exploit so that I can run Titanium Backup first before I do the dev unlock.
I wonder if anybody is actually working on one, or if everybody just takes it on faith that *somebody* must be.
I bet if the HTC method wasn't there, people would be trying harder to find one.
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This tool works like a charm, and HTC has no idea you are rooted. I used it last night - took about 10 min. You pretty much download drivers and this app, and run the app. Very easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
What's wrong with HTC Unlock?
I used HTC Unlock and it was a breeze. Given being a noob since this is my first HTC device i've tinkered with, it was quite painless
The only things wrong with it are that:
1. It wipes all your customizations so you have to start over from scratch, or from what some non-root backup app can restore which isn't much.
2. It doesn't give you S-Off, so you can't flash radio updates, but to me that's no big deal.
The biggest issue with HTC dev on the newest H-boot is that you cannot flash kernels normally through recovery
Never accept an OTA. S-Off is soooooo convenient
ronnienyc said:
This tool works like a charm, and HTC has no idea you are rooted. I used it last night - took about 10 min. You pretty much download drivers and this app, and run the app. Very easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
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Pretty sure they still know. It still has to extreact info from the phone to get token to unlock phone. You just don't see it happening but the program is contacting HTC to unlock the phone.
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Pretty sure they still know. It still has to extreact info from the phone to get token to.
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It is incognito.
I thought TWRP / HTC Dumlock could now flash kernels with S-OFF:
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/07/team-win-recovery-project-2-2-1-adds-dumlock-for-boot-flashing-on-latest-evo-4g-lte-firmware.html
Regaw uses minimal user information in the unlocking process.
With that said, you can never be sure HTC doesn't know you unlocked it. Frankly, Its not going to matter if they know or know when your boot loader says relocked.
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Rxpert said:
The biggest issue with HTC dev on the newest H-boot is that you cannot flash kernels normally through recovery
Never accept an OTA. S-Off is soooooo convenient
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You can flash kernels with HTC dev unlock.
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I'm s off and I wanna get the new update complete with root and keep my s off can u guide me what to do and I don't have recovery yet I just rooted and then apply s off and that's all
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tech7 said:
I'm s off and I wanna get the new update complete with root and keep my s off can u guide me what to do and I don't have recovery yet I just rooted and then apply s off and that's all
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This thread has information about flashing a custom recovery in the OP and also links to the stock rooted roms that you can flash in recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830098
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pbarrett said:
I thought TWRP / HTC Dumlock could now flash kernels with S-OFF:
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/07/team-win-recovery-project-2-2-1-adds-dumlock-for-boot-flashing-on-latest-evo-4g-lte-firmware.html
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With S-OFF you can flash anything you want. You dont need dumlock
Rydah805 said:
You can flash kernels with HTC dev unlock.
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Not through the normal channels with the new H-boot
Sorry, I meant to say S-ON.
(So are there abnormal channels for flashing a kernel then?)
Do I have this all wrong, or isn't it true that a ROM includes a kernel, and you can flash a ROM with S-ON, but not a kernel by itself?
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Sorry, I meant to say S-ON.
(So are there abnormal channels for flashing a kernel then?)
Do I have this all wrong, or isn't it true that a ROM includes a kernel, and you can flash a ROM with S-ON, but not a kernel by itself?
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I would like to know this also
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pbarrett said:
Sorry, I meant to say S-ON.
(So are there abnormal channels for flashing a kernel then?)
Do I have this all wrong, or isn't it true that a ROM includes a kernel, and you can flash a ROM with S-ON, but not a kernel by itself?
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The kernel in the ROM doesnt get flashed. When going from sense to sense it isnt an issue because its still the stock HTC kernel
If you try flashing cm10 without pushing the boot.img the phone wont boot because it has an AOSP ROM and sense kernel
Abnormal channels would be your fastboot flash, htc dumlock, or flashgui
What's the problem.with not being able to flash the kernal thur recovery? You can still push it via fastboot. It not so much of an inconvenience that you would want to not have root and do tons of cool **** to your phone. Who cares if HTC knows you are unlocked? BFD!
Unlock your phone and enjoy it the way it was meant to be enjoyed except flashing radios and kernal via recovery.
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Hey guys,
Just wanted to say that I was successful in rooting my htc one for tmobile and installing a custom recovery. I used the tool found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942
Just wanted to spread the news in case you were wondering if it was possible.
I hope there is a way to do it without unlocking the bootloader. I just want root.
RangerLG said:
I hope there is a way to do it without unlocking the bootloader. I just want root.
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I hope I CAN unlock the bootloader, lol.
which version did you use? the M7 or the ATT or sprint? just wanted to know so i dont blow my phone up on the first day lols
pretty sure you can unlock the bootloader straight up on the HTC dev site.
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pretty sure you can unlock the bootloader straight up on the HTC dev site.
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Yeah thats what I did. I also followed the tutorial in the android development forum.
Edit: I'm gonna go for the M7 version because it says M7 in the bootloader. Wish me luck!
Yeah I'm wondering that too, do we use the M7 version or the ATT one? I'm assuming the M7 because the Tmo version is no different than the international version.
I used the m7 version last night. Worked great. Note sitting on the stock firmware with cwm touch and root. Needed to get rid of all the junk apps
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RangerLG said:
I hope there is a way to do it without unlocking the bootloader. I just want root.
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You are going to need to unlock the bootloader
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Just want root access, not the custom recovery/ROMs
I'd like to have root access to my HTC One, so that I can use Titanium Backup. That's really the only reason I rooted my Tmobile Samsung Vibrant (for that, I used SuperOneClick).
I found this tool: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942
How do I use this program to maintain the stock recovery and just grant root access?
Is it possible to do the following?:
1- follow the prerequisites in the "To root the phone. Follow in order" and click Go.
2- Skip "Next, flash a recovery."
3- Flash Kernal
4- Run "Perm Root"
Will that work? If not, what do I need to do to get what I want?
I'm not interested in custom ROMs and I don't want to worry about screwing something up. I use wifi calling, and it's important that I have it.
Is this possible and if so, can you point me to the right direction?
Thanks
Depends on your hboot I guess. If you're on 1.22.651.1 and older, i guess you can use the method below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Than there's this one, which isn't working at the moment but you can read and see if it helps you in any wa
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
I am sure someone more knowledgeable can chime in and help you.
Pretty sure htcdev is the only route unless facepalm bypasses it . I haven't checked out that method. HTC dev works so why would anyone spent countless hours trying to gain root when a perfectly fine route exists.
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corcgaigh said:
Pretty sure htcdev is the only route unless facepalm bypasses it . I haven't checked out that method. HTC dev works so why would anyone spent countless hours trying to gain root when a perfectly fine route exists.
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Because I'm concerned about relocking my bootloader, if I use that method, and having it say LOCKED instead of RELOCKED.
JManekia said:
Depends on your hboot I guess. If you're on 1.22.651.1 and older, i guess you can use the method below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Than there's this one, which isn't working at the moment but you can read and see if it helps you in any wa
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
I am sure someone more knowledgeable can chime in and help you.
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My HBOOT is 2.09 and my software version is 3.16.651.3 710 RD. I guess I can't do it?
You will have to unlock and s-off in order for you to have the option of locking back to stock without the relock message.
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JManekia said:
You will have to unlock and s-off in order for you to have the option of locking back to stock without the relock message.
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Couple questions:
Do you s-off first and then root or root then s-off?
What guide did you use?
g2nightmare said:
Couple questions:
Do you s-off first and then root or root then s-off?
What guide did you use?
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http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte...g-dummies-guide-racun-babyracun-unlocked.html
This guide is a great tool to follow. Basically, you'll need to use HTCDEV to unlock your bootloader, than use the DirtyRacun/BabyRacun to RUU back to 3.15 than you'll be able to get S-Off
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Couple questions:
Do you s-off first and then root or root then s-off?
What guide did you use?
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Go to unlimited.io/jewel and follow the instructions they have there... Good Luck!
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