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Hello,
I was just about to buy a cheap desktop to run ubuntu. However I thought now that my phone can be overclocked to 1.5 ghz. This makes it easily fast enough to run ubuntu when my hd2 can run ubuntu fast enough. So why couldnt we have ubuntu running on our sgs2 as well as running the phone os through kies or something similar? However we dont have the mhl cable cable but when it is released then webtop would be very useful and save people a lot of money. If you agree then please make a comment so hopefully developers will not feel like it is a waste of time developing it.
Thanks,
Billy
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I guess were not getting webtop ported then
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Even if somebody developed a webtop-esque environment for the SGS2, how would you control it? The one port would already be taken up by an mhl/hdmi cable and there is no Bluetooth HID profile.
I would like to see this, have seen videos of youtube of people running windows 7 / linux environments on their smartphones such as HTC HD2 & Nexus One, saw the article of the X10i getting some linux love and wouldn't mind trying it out as well.
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I guess were not getting webtop ported then
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You would need to find somebody to spend their time carrying out such a task .
Offer a $7000 reward somebody might .
jje
Is there any that we'll see Ubuntu custom roms? Or will i have to buy an Ubuntu Phone in order to experience it?
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Chances are quite high that we will. Also IIRC Ubuntu said that they will be making their OS compatible with many popular Android devices, so an official Ubuntu ROM can be flashed instead of an Android ROM.
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It's possible to see an Ubuntu ROM.
Also they said that they will release an Emulator & SDK for Ubuntu Phone Development until next week, so there is a big chance to see an official ROM released soon....
Ubuntu Phone Devs...Prepare!!!!!
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Sounds Awesome! A smart move by them would be to somehow make android apps compatible with it cuz it will take them a looooong time to get to the amount of apps android already has (if it ever will)...
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It's possible to see an Ubuntu ROM.
Also they said that they will release an Emulator & SDK for Ubuntu Phone Development until next week, so there is a big chance to see an official ROM released soon....
Ubuntu Phone Devs...Prepare!!!!!
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My body is ready
aryehzev said:
Sounds Awesome! A smart move by them would be to somehow make android apps compatible with it cuz it will take them a looooong time to get to the amount of apps android already has (if it ever will)...
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Im pretty sure you can get android apps to work in ubuntu if you use multiarch.
Ubuntu OS is meant to run on Android (multi-core devices) only I believe. So if you meet this requirement you will get this They also mentioned that other flavors of linux will be released. (Not supported by Ubuntu however)
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aryehzev said:
Is there any that we'll see Ubuntu custom roms? Or will i have to buy an Ubuntu Phone in order to experience it?
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If you are satisfied with running Ubuntu in parallel with Android, you can always make an Ubuntu ROM yourself, following my HOWTO in my signature.
Good assumption
sashank said:
Chances are quite high that we will. Also IIRC Ubuntu said that they will be making their OS compatible with many popular Android devices, so an official Ubuntu ROM can be flashed instead of an Android ROM.
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I was just reviewing the release notes and it appears you are correct my friend.
Jayfla
would be nice
hope soon an alpha build would be uploaded:highfive:
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aryehzev said:
Is there any that we'll see Ubuntu custom roms? Or will i have to buy an Ubuntu Phone in order to experience it?
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i think it will need a couple of weeks untill ubuntu "custom roms" will be portet to non nexus devices, because teh only devices that r officially supportet by ubuntu phone are the nexus 4 and the galaxy nexus.
You should know that Ubuntu Phone needs high resources to run on any devices.
There r few Devs at the moment that know how to port this on any device, and most of this r the devs of Ubuntu itself.
I would not name Ubuntu Phone a custom rom because it's not based on Android => it's a mobile OS based on linux but not on android
The first UbuntuPhones will be selled much later there are no at the moment
First of all. I'm not a developer. I consider myself a power user.
With that said. I do love the idea of try Ubuntu OS on my SGS3. And when Canonical announced that they are bringing their Ubuntu to mobile phones, I became very excited.
My question is this. How many developers and power users are interested in getting their hands on Ubuntu OS to try to get it working on the devices they own? As an individual, I have no power to go to Canonical and tell them that I am interested in Ubuntu OS for mobile phones. However if we, as the XDA family of users and developers, among the biggest of hobby developers out there, and probably one of the biggest Beta testers you could find, connected with Canonical, there is a possibility that we could get their attention.
I for one would love to see an image for the S3. As a dual boot or just plain Ubuntu on the phone.
So here is my proposal. I would like to create a petition for XDA to contact Canonical on behalf of the members of the XDA forums, to offer our services to Canonical as Beta testers and to make Ubuntu compatible with our devices that we have in our possession. Android is great, but we still don't have the full power of our devices the way we are individuals are yearning for. Ubuntu to me is representing that freedom.
Your comments and thoughts are appreciative.
Hans-Erik
Count me in! I would like to port Ubuntu for my Xperia Neo xD
I'd love a port of some sort - would be willing to report bugs etc.
Well from what I have read Galaxy Nexus users will be able to install Ubuntu for Android on their device in the coming weeks, and with Ubuntus schedule I am guessing late February. Once the installer is out it will only be a matter of time before there are unofficial images for the SGS3 etc.
One thing I am looking forward to exploring is the porting of Android APKs to the Ububtu software.
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Hope the Galaxy Ace gets a port, I'll try it but I'm kinda worried about Androids apps on Ubuntu OS
Im sure that android apk wont work on ubuntu. Ubuntu has there own softwarecentre
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They said there OS I'd going to support android kernels
This post uses the patented TingTingin®™ method I would teach it to you but you are not yet worthy (come back in a hundred years)
I've definitely interested in getting my hands on it.
I would love a dual-boot on my Nexus 4 Count me in.
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me tooo..:good:
This thing does a very good job in handling one issue: fragmentation! I'm definitely going to test this out and try to port it to the I9100.
I want it in my Xperia PLAY :3
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Count me in!!! btw ive been thinking about doing the switch from windows 8 to Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and getting use to it, just not sure if it would benefit having Ubuntu on my Note 2 and Laptop in terms of any more than just sticking with windows 8 on my laptop. Anyone going through the same thoughts?
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Count me in!!! btw ive been thinking about doing the switch from windows 8 to Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop and getting use to it, just not sure if it would benefit having Ubuntu on my Note 2 and Laptop in terms of any more than just sticking with windows 8 on my laptop. Anyone going through the same thoughts?
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I would say do it.....i did it a few years a go.....en will never turn back to windows.....the nice thing off ubuntu is ypu easly make a dualboot with windows on your pc...so yoi dont have to give op windows directly....after a while youl see that ubuntu is faster saver and very easy to use....and you start to use windows more less.....then you can decided if you completly delete lacky windows from your pc......with introducing ubuntu phone you will get a complete new experience...because you can use the apps on your phone aswell on you pc...and thats awesome.....
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Hey guys I've started a petition at change.org so of you are interested in getting their attention you should try and sign! Won't hurt to try!
https://www.change.org/petitions/ca...evelopers-com-as-testers-for-ubuntu-for-phone
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liawim said:
I would say do it.....i did it a few years a go.....en will never turn back to windows.....the nice thing off ubuntu is ypu easly make a dualboot with windows on your pc...so yoi dont have to give op windows directly....after a while youl see that ubuntu is faster saver and very easy to use....and you start to use windows more less.....then you can decided if you completly delete lacky windows from your pc......with introducing ubuntu phone you will get a complete new experience...because you can use the apps on your phone aswell on you pc...and thats awesome.....
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I think the longest period ive ever used Ubuntu after installing it was for a month after which i started getting frustrated due to the unavailability of certain programs that i used..not sure what release it was but it was at around the same time the iPhone 3G was released. I could get iTunes to work on it but it had to run through Wine and even then i had issues with the itunes recognizing the phone. Honestly, i felt like i had to go through 10 different steps to perform a simple task whereas on the windows it was as easy as installing and just running the program..quick and very convenient. But im sure those issues have long been tackled so ill still give it another try..i hope this time it would be worth it. Thanks for the input.
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Hope the Galaxy Ace gets a port, I'll try it but I'm kinda worried about Androids apps on Ubuntu OS
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The ace cant run ubuntu.
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I'd like to see it on my Xperia sola. I think it would be great
And I don't know, but if it's a native OS it would work a few times more quickly that Android which is using a dalvik emulator. So it seems to be a great experience.
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Hey guys I've started a petition at change.org so of you are interested in getting their attention you should try and sign! Won't hurt to try!
https://www.change.org/petitions/ca...evelopers-com-as-testers-for-ubuntu-for-phone
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Not that I think it will make much a difference, but I did sign your petition. Source will be out soon and our guys over here will be all over it. I miss Ubuntu dearly, my companies software will only run from windows and worse yet internet explorer, so I cant wait for a couple of our awesome devs. to take a crack at this.
Hopefully Ubuntu for phones will make an even bigger hit than android and get more Americans running Ubuntu. Then maybe big corporations and companies will stop forcing its employees to use Micro$oft products.
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I think the longest period ive ever used Ubuntu after installing it was for a month after which i started getting frustrated due to the unavailability of certain programs that i used..not sure what release it was but it was at around the same time the iPhone 3G was released. I could get iTunes to work on it but it had to run through Wine and even then i had issues with the itunes recognizing the phone. Honestly, i felt like i had to go through 10 different steps to perform a simple task whereas on the windows it was as easy as installing and just running the program..quick and very convenient. But im sure those issues have long been tackled so ill still give it another try..i hope this time it would be worth it. Thanks for the input.
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The trick with ubuntu is you dont want to learn how to use windows apps in ubuntu....but how to learn working with de apps those are provided in ubuntu....almost for 98% of the windows apps is a ubuntu alternative...learn to work with them and u dont need windows...
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Maybe someone will implement a eay (if it's possible) for dual boot of android and ubuntu ? Because i'm using my device for test my app, and i eould try ubuntu too!
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Just wait for the 21st of February.
It will definetely be possible on nexus devices but I'm not sure about others.
R: Dual boot with android?
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Just wait for the 21st of February.
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The 21 will be release and ok. But i would have both os on the same device, like a dual boot on pc
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giozh said:
The 21 will be release and ok. But i would have both os on the same device, like a dual boot on pc
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He means that we will see the exact answers after release. So just be patient.
View sonic make the Viewpad 10 pro which is dual OS Android & Windows 7. I don't see why someone wouldn't design an Android / Ubuntu tab.... It would be easier to run and keep up to date.
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I guess, it will be also possible to run Ubuntu inside chroot. But instead of vnc we should use native xserver inputs and ouputs (if ubuntu for phones will run xorg, there are rumors that canonical made a new display server).
I got ubuntu running in a setup like this on a SGS2 pretty good (xserver takes touchevents from /dev/input/event2 and draws on framebuffer). But i have some problems with the drivers, touch especially (using multitouch driver because evdev crashes -> can't rotate -> only useable in portrait-mode )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxats9ejrG0
But because Canonical said Ubuntu can run from an Androidkernel, this problems may be fixed already (for the choosen nexus handset at least)
I am wondering why people would want to use Ubuntu Touch over android. I don't see many (if any) benefits of using it over Android.
I see that the section isn't very popular, but I hope someone can answer my question.
Thank you
I want a change. I'm tired of Android in a way. I'm the kind of guy that used to install a new Linux distribution every week. Not anymore though, no distro is compatible with my wireless adapter.
The prospect of a swipe based OS excites me. Plus, it's Ubuntu. I actually don't need a reason more than that.
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Alucai Vivorvel said:
I want a change. I'm tired of Android in a way. I'm the kind of guy that used to install a new Linux distribution every week. Not anymore though, no distro is compatible with my wireless adapter.
The prospect of a swipe based OS excites me. Plus, it's Ubuntu. I actually don't need a reason more than that.
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These are exactly the reasons why I am using Ubuntu Touch as well (except that I've never installed another Linux distribution than Ubuntu).
And I like the community. There's one on Google Plus and for bugs, you've got Launchpad. That way you can contribute to the project and discuss bugs very easily. Moreover, Canonical is very open towards ideas from the community. They do weekly Q&A sessions and they give you many information about what they actually do. And there are these daily updates which you can install if you want to (I do ).
Additionally, I like how simple app development is for Ubuntu Touch (at least what I've seen so far, working on my first real app).
You should, however, keep in mind that it's still in a very early stage. There's no native email app yet, you need to use webapps (there's one for Google Mail for example). Nevertheless, there are new apps every day.
If you're lucky there's a dual-boot solution for your phone. For a lot of Nexus devices there's MultiROM by @Tasssadar. This is what I currently use. I rarely reboot to Android though.
I'm looking for a more open alternative to google/android. Google is building a walled garden as they move their apps to close source and more tightly integrate google with the device. Try using stock aosp without a google account. I like being able to customize and mod my phone, but lately, I can feel uncle google getting a little too pushy about what I can and can not do on my phone. I can understand google's business model and the individual users who choose, knowingly or unknowingly, to subscribe to it, although it is not to my taste, so I am looking for alternatives that are truly open where my data and privacy are under my control.
Putting aside my issues with google, other advantages of ubuntu touch would be a linux based OS that integrates with my desktop (also linux). I think Canonical/Ubuntu/Shuttleworth has hit the nail on the head with device convergence. To me, the phone and the desktop are just hardware that I happen to use in different places. The content, the data, and the connectivity are the things that are important to my user experience. The hardware is merely the finger pointing to the moon.
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I'm looking for a more open alternative to google/android. Google is building a walled garden as they move their apps to close source and more tightly integrate google with the device. Try using stock aosp without a google account. I like being able to customize and mod my phone, but lately, I can feel uncle google getting a little too pushy about what I can and can not do on my phone. I can understand google's business model and the individual users who choose, knowingly or unknowingly, to subscribe to it, although it is not to my taste, so I am looking for alternatives that are truly open where my data and privacy are under my control.
Putting aside my issues with google, other advantages of ubuntu touch would be a linux based OS that integrates with my desktop (also linux). I think Canonical/Ubuntu/Shuttleworth has hit the nail on the head with device convergence. To me, the phone and the desktop are just hardware that I happen to use in different places. The content, the data, and the connectivity are the things that are important to my user experience. The hardware is merely the finger pointing to the moon.
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Completely true. We definitely need more privacy and the convergence idea is great. :good:
can't wait one minute more
Androids Google+ integration gets more and more annoying. Don't wanna deal with that social media crap.
...and I will never forgive Google for ditching Talk which was a huge opportunity to establish an open format.
Alucai Vivorvel said:
I want a change. I'm tired of Android in a way. I'm the kind of guy that used to install a new Linux distribution every week. Not anymore though, no distro is compatible with my wireless adapter.
The prospect of a swipe based OS excites me. Plus, it's Ubuntu. I actually don't need a reason more than that.
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Broadcom got you too eh? Haha, and I agree. The first Ubuntu distro I installed on a PC was 8.04 LTS. After having to mess around with the terminal to get ANY wireless adapter to work back then, really set me up for the era of Android smart phones. I love Ubuntu, I love the philosophy of Ubuntu. And when Ubuntu touch takes off, I'll definitely be excited to flash it onto a phone. Like you said, I don't need any more of a reason other than it's Ubuntu.
A new OS, it's Ubuntu!!!, awesome gestures, and when ACL is setup you'll be able to have all your favourite android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
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A new OS, it's Ubuntu!!!, awesome gestures, and when ACL is setup you'll be able to have all your favourite android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
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Sure about that? I heard that Ubuntu will never support Android apps. Sailfish and Tizen do, but not Ubuntu. Correct me if I'm wrong (sources?).
I agree with you though. The gestures are much more fun than Android's soft buttons.
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A new OS, it's Ubuntu!!!, awesome gestures, and when ACL is setup you'll be able to have all your favourite android apps on Ubuntu Touch.
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I can't see why they wouldn't be easily ported to Ubuntu. Both are Linux based
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I thought the same thing with webOS. It's Linux, why not port? But even though the core is the same the code on top is not. Difference between c++, qml, java, and JavaScript. For ACL, There is a sense of moving towards other Mobile Linux OS's. Money is the factor.
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I can't see why they wouldn't be easily ported to Ubuntu. Both are Linux based
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Well, they removed Dalvik and ART from that part of Android which they are using in Ubuntu for phones. So there won't be Android apps. (The Android design wouldn't fit into Ubuntu as well.)
Quote from an Engadget interview:
Since Android is also Linux-based, is there any plan for Ubuntu to run Android apps?
Many Android developers already use Ubuntu as their desktop OS and we have a very close affinity with them. We intend to encourage them to make their Android applications run on Ubuntu, but we won't engineer any middleware for running Android apps. Developers are intelligent and capable enough to make their apps run on our devices. We have an active initiative right now to directly help them achieve this.
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EDIT: Have a look at this as well: http://askubuntu.com/questions/247973/will-android-apps-be-compatible-with-the-ubuntu-phone-os
I want to switch because I want all my devices to be uniform and work with each other in a way Apple and Microsoft are failing to do. Having Ubuntu on my laptops, tablets, phones, desktops and televisions, and them working flawlessly together is going to be killer. Too bad this won't happen for another couple of years or so.
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I want to switch because I want all my devices to be uniform and work with each other in a way Apple and Microsoft are failing to do. Having Ubuntu on my laptops, tablets, phones, desktops and televisions, and them working flawlessly together is going to be killer. Too bad this won't happen for another couple of years or so.
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You could technically already do this with android and chromium no?
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You could technically already do this with android and chromium no?
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Not completely. You can't have all your devices (TV, Mobile devices, computers, etc.) Running one unified platform. What Canonical wants to do is use one OS across all devices with changes to the UI so it fits with whatever you are using. So you will (in the future) be running Ubuntu desktop across all your devices with changes to the UI.
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Not completely. You can't have all your devices (TV, Mobile devices, computers, etc.) Running one unified platform. What Canonical wants to do is use one OS across all devices with changes to the UI so it fits with whatever you are using. So you will (in the future) be running Ubuntu desktop across all your devices with changes to the UI.
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You already do, except those 5 % which Unity makes up.
The Unity version is the only thing that's still different.
Nothing yet?
No news about this? D: i need Ubuntu on my phone xDDDD
nikwen said:
You already do, except those 5 % which Unity makes up.
The Unity version is the only thing that's still different.
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I want complete uniformity. And that's what Canonical is doing.
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Blakebn2012 said:
I am wondering why people would want to use Ubuntu Touch over android. I don't see many (if any) benefits of using it over Android.
I see that the section isn't very popular, but I hope someone can answer my question.
Thank you
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I want the Ubuntu Touch for my Samsung Galaxy S3 do to the fact it's able to sync to the desktop, this would all be work-friendly as I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and have this setup as my OS.
Still looks underdeveloped and I don't want to flash as I think my bootloader is jammed. I'm happy with the android but would like to venture into this.
Hope that answers your question for you.
Kent C.
I want to see Ubuntu on my phone and tablet because then once the real initial hurdle happens it will be fork season. If there are only small changes needed underneath to make Ubuntu run on any android device that can already run cyanogen mod it will be trivial to modifty each new version quickly to run on compatible devices. When forking the distro takes off we will probably see an automated system to build the needed underparts for each device pop up.