Hey everybody -
This is my first post here. I'm sorry if there is an answer already posted to this and if i'm just reposting, but i haven't seen any of this information anywhere, and apparently i have to make 5 q&a posts before i can start posting stuff where i need too, so i'm trying to throw some useful info to the community to gain this privilage
Anyways, onto the topic -
Many people that are installing a new ROM on there EVO 3D are getting an error when google tries to auto install apps after flashing. The error states that there is not enough space left on their devices to continue installing apps, even though there are reports of users having 700+mb free for app storage. Developers are claiming that it's because you didn't wipe dalvik/cache before flashing. I've found that this is not true, but I do know the fix, but don't completely under stand why this happens.
The fix:
The fix to this problem is a very simple one.
1. Install the rom like you normally would (boot to recovery, NAND backup, wipe data/factory reset, wipe dalvik cache, wipe partition cache, and wipe cache, then flash from zip, then select reboot device)
2. When the phone is booted up, type in all your info as usual to sync your accounts. When your done with this step, you'll notice google tries to start installing all of your apps, which it'll eventually crash on due to space.
3. You can do this before or after it throws you the error message about space, but the next step is reboot your phone back into recovery. From there, you're going to wipe your dalvik cache and cache (again), and then reboot the phone again.
That's it! You should now be able to install all of your apps again without getting storage errors!
I'm not a developer, but if i'm to take a guess at why this happens, i'm guessing something about the install, or maybe even the initial boot process of a rom being ran for the first time, for some reason is flooding our cache space, thus firing false alarms for being out of space. Therefor, by cleaning the cache space after the rom install is completed and booted, the phone no longer notices the space issues. I could be wrong on this, but this seems like a logical answer to me.
If this helps, let me know! Also feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on anything i posted, but this method seems to work for me! If this needs to be in a different category, feel free to move it! As a new member, i'm very limited on where i can post things...
Enjoy your newly rooted and modded EVO 3D!
duble08 said:
Hey everybody -
This is my first post here. I'm sorry if there is an answer already posted to this and if i'm just reposting, but i haven't seen any of this information anywhere, and apparently i have to make 5 q&a posts before i can start posting stuff where i need too, so i'm trying to throw some useful info to the community to gain this privilage
Anyways, onto the topic -
Many people that are installing a new ROM on there EVO 3D are getting an error when google tries to auto install apps after flashing. The error states that there is not enough space left on their devices to continue installing apps, even though there are reports of users having 700+mb free for app storage. Developers are claiming that it's because you didn't wipe dalvik/cache before flashing. I've found that this is not true, but I do know the fix, but don't completely under stand why this happens.
The fix:
The fix to this problem is a very simple one.
1. Install the rom like you normally would (boot to recovery, NAND backup, wipe data/factory reset, wipe dalvik cache, wipe partition cache, and wipe cache, then flash from zip, then select reboot device)
2. When the phone is booted up, type in all your info as usual to sync your accounts. When your done with this step, you'll notice google tries to start installing all of your apps, which it'll eventually crash on due to space.
3. You can do this before or after it throws you the error message about space, but the next step is reboot your phone back into recovery. From there, you're going to wipe your dalvik cache and cache (again), and then reboot the phone again.
That's it! You should now be able to install all of your apps again without getting storage errors!
I'm not a developer, but if i'm to take a guess at why this happens, i'm guessing something about the install, or maybe even the initial boot process of a rom being ran for the first time, for some reason is flooding our cache space, thus firing false alarms for being out of space. Therefor, by cleaning the cache space after the rom install is completed and booted, the phone no longer notices the space issues. I could be wrong on this, but this seems like a logical answer to me.
If this helps, let me know! Also feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on anything i posted, but this method seems to work for me! If this needs to be in a different category, feel free to move it! As a new member, i'm very limited on where i can post things...
Enjoy your newly rooted and modded EVO 3D!
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Welcome to the community, and nice first post! I haven't had the issue that you're referring to, but I have indeed noticed others having the issue. Good to know that fixes it up, in case I ever encounter it. Thanks.
k2buckley said:
Welcome to the community, and nice first post! I haven't had the issue that you're referring to, but I have indeed noticed others having the issue. Good to know that fixes it up, in case I ever encounter it. Thanks.
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no problem! this community has helped me TONS in the past, even though i haven't said anything about it (due to not being able to post in developer threads yet). I reflashed and wiped my phone about 4-5 times before realizing that the cache had to be cleaned AFTER the install and first boot of the new rom, and all the dev's kept stating it was from not wiping prior to flashing, which i did every time. Hopefully this will save some people time and headaches and i'm sure the dev's will soon find a fix to this, as they seem to work very fast at finding bugs and cleaning em up.
more or less i would say its because the market will download apps to the cache first...then install them to the phone...
the insufficient space is mostly what happens when the cache gets filled.
thats my educated guess on the matter.
also welcome to xda. you're gonna like it here
When I do this, it forgets all my 130 apps and I have to go look for them manually. Only ROMs that are using the new market do this to me.
Welcome to xda.
Another suggestion to add to the nice info here is. When you boot up a rom for the first time dont sign in. Immediately go to settings/accounts & sync and uncheck auto sync. Then head to settings/privacy then uncheck automatically restore. Then sign in. This is a option for anyone who doesn't want to reboot.
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newkidd said:
more or less i would say its because the market will download apps to the cache first...then install them to the phone...
the insufficient space is mostly what happens when the cache gets filled.
thats my educated guess on the matter.
also welcome to xda. you're gonna like it here
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that would make a lot of sense as well - if that's the case, maybe people should let google market crash the cache before they clear it out again? that's what i did when i got it working... it was one of those things where i just watched and wondered, "is it going to do it all this time?", and of course when it didn't, that's when i discovered re-clearing the cache again in recovery fixes it. I noticed that by clearing the application cache (settings/applications/manage programs/market/clear cache) the problem still persists, and the only way to get google apps to install again is by clearing cache in recovery, which made me think it was an installation/boot thing. but i'm still learning, like many of us here
thanks for the input!
awesomeindeed said:
When I do this, it forgets all my 130 apps and I have to go look for them manually. Only ROMs that are using the new market do this to me.
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this is an issue i noticed as well - i had to re-add my apps manually after it only added 24 of the 120 i had going. but hey, beggers can't be choosers, and i'm just mostly happy that i got a new rom going with everything functioning properly within 2 weeks of the phones release!
If anyone knows how to re-start the app sync succesfully without space errors, that might be good info to include in this post
awesomeindeed said:
When I do this, it forgets all my 130 apps and I have to go look for them manually. Only ROMs that are using the new market do this to me.
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Did you clear the cache or data in the app itself or from recovery?? If you clear cache from recovery, this shouldn't happen. If it still does, usually downloading another app rebuilds the market cache.
What you can do to fix it is use Titanium Backup and there is a setting: Menu > More > Market Doctor and it fixes this issue. But, I think it only works in the paid version. It's well worth the few bucks though!
-viperboy- said:
Did you clear the cache or data in the app itself or from recovery?? If you clear cache from recovery, this shouldn't happen. If it still does, usually downloading another app rebuilds the market cache.
What you can do to fix it is use Titanium Backup and there is a setting: Menu > More > Market Doctor and it fixes this issue. But, I think it only works in the paid version. It's well worth the few bucks though!
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Recovery. Downloading another app doesn't rebuild the cache either. Now it's gotten to the point where no ROM will restore any of my apps at all, it basically thinks I've never downloaded anything. So now I've gotta try and remember the 130 or so apps I had installed.
Not complaining, just an observation. One of the caveats of rooting a new device
Welcome to the community.
A really easy way to fix this is to just clear the cache and data for the Market in Settings > Applications, and that has worked for numerous people using my ROM but I don't think it'd be any different for any other ROM.
empiire said:
Welcome to the community.
A really easy way to fix this is to just clear the cache and data for the Market in Settings > Applications, and that has worked for numerous people using my ROM but I don't think it'd be any different for any other ROM.
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I tried this method on vipers rc1.2 and supra ROM, and it didn't fix it for either - I continued to get insufficient space warnings, even after rebooting. The only thing that worked for my device was going into recovery to clear the cache.
You can also go into terminal emulator and delete the Download.apk files in the cache.
You'd think Google would be a little smarter at this. All the market would need to do is download fewer apps at a time, as the files are cleared once the installation is complete.
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I feel a s0be market fix coming on. Although I have not seen the issue, you could pwn the cache and symlink it out of /data and into /system. A genious linux guy, seriously, genious, made this hack back on the hero, fixed market download errors EVERY time.
See this post:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11055157&postcount=4650
If you like it, go find s0be and thank him
duble08 said:
I tried this method on vipers rc1.2 and supra ROM, and it didn't fix it for either - I continued to get insufficient space warnings, even after rebooting. The only thing that worked for my device was going into recovery to clear the cache.
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You could try reflashing the rom and signing into your google account right away. And let it sync. Just a thought.
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laie1472 said:
You could try reflashing the rom and signing into your google account right away. And let it sync. Just a thought.
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That won't make any difference if there is no room to actually store the downloads. Downloads from the Market go into /cache while downloading and then move to /data/app or /system/app, depending on the app. Hence why clearing cache fixes it.
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You could try reflashing the rom and signing into your google account right away. And let it sync. Just a thought.
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That's what causes the market problem - I tried wiping and flashing both roms multiple times with the same result - if you flash a new ROM with the new market, and your market tries to sync a large number of apps, its going to flood the cache space and stop allowing the installation of apps until you go into recovery and clear the cache there... Then it all works fine, except for having to add all your apps one by one.
duble08 said:
That's what causes the market problem - I tried wiping and flashing both roms multiple times with the same result - if you flash a new ROM with the new market, and your market tries to sync a large number of apps, its going to flood the cache space and stop allowing the installation of apps until you go into recovery and clear the cache there... Then it all works fine, except for having to add all your apps one by one.
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Well have you tried my suggestion I posted before the last one???
As in this
Another suggestion to add to the nice info here is. When you boot up a rom for the first time dont sign in. Immediately go to settings/accounts & sync and uncheck auto sync. Then head to settings/privacy then uncheck automatically restore. Then sign in. This is a option for anyone who doesn't want to reboot.
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laie1472 said:
Well have you tried my suggestion I posted before the last one???
As in this
Another suggestion to add to the nice info here is. When you boot up a rom for the first time dont sign in. Immediately go to settings/accounts & sync and uncheck auto sync. Then head to settings/privacy then uncheck automatically restore. Then sign in. This is a option for anyone who doesn't want to reboot.
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I tried something similar, but not exactly like you said earlier. I set my accounts to sync, but immediately went into the market while it was syncing, and cancelled everything. This would've still left the user picking each app to re-download one by one, because I believe there's no way to restart the app sync. I ended up buying titanium, and used that to put all my apps back on - its much less of a headache.
Hi all,
I'm trying to create a SenseLess ROM for the EVO 3D starting from the Stock 1.20.401.8
My idea is to have a light stock rom with only a few changes.
I have started from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18919427
and used information from the good post of smoking1337 in the CDMA section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209379
to remove the sense APKs.
I have then added a couple of APKs (Titanium Backup and ROMManager) in /data, goLauncher EX in /system/app and made the needed changes to the update_script.
Everything seems to work fine, the system starts correctly but as soon as I try to restore something from Titanium Backup the phone reboots. And it reboots often also from the Market when I install a new app.
So, at the end, the Rom is useless.
Probably I have removed something needed by the system or I need to make other changes.
Any suggestion ?
Ciao
Andrea
I'm back. I have solved.
The problem was due to the wrong permissions to the /data directory. I have changed the updater-script and now I have no more reboots.
The only rmaining issue is that when I receive a call, I have to unlock the phone before answering. This is due to the lack of the HTC Lockscreen application.
I'm trying to solve it and then, if someone is interested, I'll post the ROM. Any suggestion is welcome
Andrea
Did you try a custom lockscreen? like this one: https://market.android.com/details?...DEsImNvbS50ZXNsYWNvaWxzdy53aWRnZXRsb2NrZXIiXQ..
Yes, I did. I have installed WidgetLocker. But still, when the phone rings, the usual GB lockscreen appears and only after having unlocked the phone I can answer.
Ciao
Andrea
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The AOKP build works great except for the constant disappearing keyboard that is about to make me kick puppies. I saw the note to install the wingray google apps to avoid the disappearing keyboard that is synonymous with the recommend gapps to use, but my dumb ass forgot and installed the recommenced apps and I surely do have the constant disappearing keyboard issue. I have flashed the "gapps-jb-20130129-P75xx" zip but still have the issue. Do I have to wipe everything and start over? Does flashing the new gapps zip not overwrite the "gapps-4.2.2-jb-3.4.2013-signed" I originally installed? It seems not to, but wanted confirmation before wiping everything again.
You should wipe everything and start over. IMHO.
Full wipe and used the "gapps-jb-20130129-P75xx". Disappearing keyboard will no longer boil my blood.
For reference, never use the "gapps-4.2.2-jb-3.4.2013-signed".
Glad I stumbled onto this thread. Exactly the problem, keyboard, (well one of them anyway) I am having.
Well for me I can't find anything to fix the disappearing keyboard issue. I tried using the suggestions above. No help. After finding more and more posts in the same subject on different boards it seemed only the Wingray gapps is the one that works properly. Just tried that one and it doesn't seem to fix the issue either. Tried several of the newer nightly ROMs too.
One suggestion was to download the Go keyboard. That didn't help either.
Dang how hard can this be? I have flashed and wiped cache so many times lately. lol
The problem why is exactly explained in nakedninja's 4.2.2 thread, you should read before you install anything
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The problem why is exactly explained in nakedninja's 4.2.2 thread, you should read before you install anything
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Unfortunately that thread content has not helped in my case. I found that thread early on and have tried to follow the directions. So either I'm missing something or not doing something correctly it appears.
Someone in another forum suggested I try the free Jellibean keyboard.
I had this issue too with AOKP 4.2.2. I have not reflashed another new gapps yet, as I found re-installing a third-party keyboard which I liked from previous use solved the problem.
Andre
Well whatever I did I finally fixed it. I ended up simply formatting the internal SD card. Poof, everything gone. Had to restore from backup default ROM. Once the stock firmware was up and running I followed the procedures again. Wiped, cleared cache multiple times and when it was all done installing there is no more keyboard issue as of now.
I loaded the 4/08/2013 nightly ROM and Wingray gapps(which I've already tried multiple times). So all is well in Tablet land again.