Is there anyway of stopping the screen lighting up when the battery is fully charged - It's a pain the ass while charging over night, all the room lights up.
And No I don't think turning the phone over is a solution.
Ta
why do u charge it overnight? It just needs to be charged for 2-3 hours only. Charging overnight will have negative effect on the battery.
theonlyanil said:
why do u charge it overnight? It just needs to be charged for 2-3 hours only. Charging overnight will have negative effect on the battery.
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Why will it have a negative effect?
theonlyanil said:
why do u charge it overnight? It just needs to be charged for 2-3 hours only. Charging overnight will have negative effect on the battery.
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Why?
I've been charging various devices overnight for as long as I care to remember and never had a problem. Modern chargers drop to a "trickle" charge when the device has reached capacity and so just maintain the full charge.
Thomasba said:
Why?
I've been charging various devices overnight for as long as I care to remember and never had a problem. Modern chargers drop to a "trickle" charge when the device has reached capacity and so just maintain the full charge.
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That's what I thought
Anyhow back to my question.....Anyone know a solution?
Place your phone face down
theonlyanil said:
why do u charge it overnight? It just needs to be charged for 2-3 hours only. Charging overnight will have negative effect on the battery.
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Thomasba said:
Why?
I've been charging various devices overnight for as long as I care to remember and never had a problem. Modern chargers drop to a "trickle" charge when the device has reached capacity and so just maintain the full charge.
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You are both right, however it can have a detrimental effect on the battery over a long period of time. Lithium-ion batteries don't really like to be fully charged, and when they are packing high voltages for long periods of time this can have a damaging effect on them. This is why "bump" charging can damage your battery if you do it often. It is actually much healthier to charge the battery on the go instead of one big overnight charge. Knowing this.... I still charge it overnight, because I simply don't care.
MadBob said:
Place your phone face down
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Maybe if I sleep face down too.
Did you read my first post, guess not
@home said:
Is there anyway of stopping the screen lighting up when the battery is fully charged - It's a pain the ass while charging over night, all the room lights up.
And No I don't think turning the phone over is a solution.
Ta
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Setting - LED indicator - Uncheck..Charging
DrewVL said:
Setting - LED indicator - Uncheck..Charging
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Does that stop the screen lighting up?
Your phone should turn off the screen after 10 seconds when you get fully charged message.
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If this has been asked,and answered before, please delete. I am coming from a droid incredible, and with fast charge, it takes about an hour and a half. How fast doors the Rezound charge? Thanks...
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My battery monitor widget shows an average of 3h 55m for AC charge and 6h 15m for USB charge.
This is for 0-100%. On AC charge, it will go from 10-90% in a little more than an hour.
According to the AC charger itself 3 hours for standard 4 hours for extended. Those are estimates I am sure. And probably with the phone powered down.
Last time mine was totally used up it took about 2 hours.
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My battery monitor widget shows an average of 3h 55m for AC charge and 6h 15m for USB charge.
This is for 0-100%. On AC charge, it will go from 10-90% in a little more than an hour.
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yeah, it seems to trickle charge at the end. I'll look at the mah and it will be 40-50mah and I'm wondering if something is wrong...
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I would say it in all caps, but that is obnoxious, so let's just make believe I did:
Always charge your phone with the power off.
Cannot stress this enough.
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yeah, it seems to trickle charge at the end. I'll look at the mah and it will be 40-50mah and I'm wondering if something is wrong...
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That's exactly what it does. It will charge at near 1A from 20-80% and then drop to about a 200mA charge.
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I would say it in all caps, but that is obnoxious, so let's just make believe I did:
Always charge your phone with the power off.
Cannot stress this enough.
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because we can live without our phones twice a day??? This just isn't possible for most people.
Not everyone has the luxury to just turn their phone off. I need mine on 24/7 for more reasons than not.
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I would say it in all caps, but that is obnoxious, so let's just make believe I did:
Always charge your phone with the power off.
Cannot stress this enough.
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jdmba said:
I would say it in all caps, but that is obnoxious, so let's just make believe I did:
Always charge your phone with the power off.
Cannot stress this enough.
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Care to explain what this accomplishes?
punman said:
Care to explain what this accomplishes?
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Nothing. It still trickle charges near peak voltage when the phone is off.
True on the trickle charge, but it's not fighting the drain of keeping the operating system, radio, and other processes going while it's charging. You get a much more complete charge when it's completely off. Also, after it shows the green light, and while still powered down, unplug, and plug in until it lights green again. Repeat a few times until the green light is almost immediate. You will then have reached the full capacity of the battery.
If you have to have your phone 24/7, invest in a couple of extended batteries, and have a standalone charger. The most you will ever be offline because of power is maybe 90 seconds while switching batteries.
One more thing, for those that don't know yet, before powering down, go to Menu, Settings, Power, and untick the fast boot option. That way you will be fully powered down while charging, not just in sleep mode.
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Also, after it shows the green light, and while still powered down, unplug, and plug in until it lights green again. Repeat a few times until the green light is almost immediate. You will then have reached the full capacity of the battery.
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and shortened the life of the battery quite a bit.
~John
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True on the trickle charge, but it's not fighting the drain of keeping the operating system, radio, and other processes going while it's charging. You get a much more complete charge when it's completely off. Also, after it shows the green light, and while still powered down, unplug, and plug in until it lights green again. Repeat a few times until the green light is almost immediate. You will then have reached the full capacity of the battery.
If you have to have your phone 24/7, invest in a couple of extended batteries, and have a standalone charger. The most you will ever be offline because of power is maybe 90 seconds while switching batteries.
One more thing, for those that don't know yet, before powering down, go to Menu, Settings, Power, and untick the fast boot option. That way you will be fully powered down while charging, not just in sleep mode.
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Nah, I get 12-16 hours out of a standard battery. Plus, I have a car charger and several AC chargers. My point was, I am not going to turn off my phone just to charge it. Not to mention, extended batteries are cumbersome.
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and shortened the life of the battery quite a bit.
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I always hear someone say this, but the funny thing is, that is no different then charging the battery in most stand alone chargers.
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Any idea why the Xperia S only charges to 95% if you charge it whilst off but is happy to charge 100% when left on to charge.
It charges up to 100% then decharge down to 90% and so up again to 100% and it continues like this, to keep the battery as good as possible over a long time.
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I have the same problem. I turned off the phone at 23:00, put to charge, woke up at 07:00, removed from charge and turned on, it was %95. Actually it changes, sometimes %97 sometimes %98. But if i charge it when phone is on it charges to %100 and keep it like that..
On or not the battery will be jumping from ~95% to 100% when left on charge. If you use a battery monitoring app you can see that, even whilst on and charging at 100%, the voltage changes from about 4.2 to 4.1 volts and continually up and down again. This is to increase the battery life because lithium batterys do not like to be kept at 4.2 volts for exessive periods of time.
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Battery monitor clearly shows the phone charging to 95% or 100% dependent of its off or on state, there is none of this charging discharging you are on about.
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Battery monitor clearly shows the phone charging to 95% or 100% dependent of its off or on state, there is none of this charging discharging you are on about.
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When the phone is on, some battery power is used to maintain the screen backlight and the SoC. Therefore the overall battery consumption is higher, thus the system will charge the battery more, but it will actually stay at the same voltage.
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The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
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The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
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It works this way, whether you like it or not. If you don't, go modify it and enjoy killing your battery.
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MrBelter said:
The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
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Yes, but things use to work in an optimized way, not in the way you would like to... Sony prefers to optimize the phone and the battery life than to make people happy by keeping 100% while decreasing drastically battery life...
K900 said:
It works this way, whether you like it or not. If you don't, go modify it and enjoy killing your battery.
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But the point is it doesn't!
Jorgitosms said:
Yes, but things use to work in an optimized way, not in the way you would like to... Sony prefers to optimize the phone and the battery life than to make people happy by keeping 100% while decreasing drastically battery life...
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Right I'll try one more time.
Turned off the phone charges to 95%, no higher and no lower and battery monitor widget can confirm this.
Turned on the phone charges to 100% and remains at 100% without variation until unplugged from the charger and battery monitor can confirm this.
You can see variations in both voltage and current as the charge cycle maintains either the off state 95% charge or the on state 100% charge but in either case the actual level of charge is without fluctuation.
Just picked my phone up from the changer. 99% battery.
I put the phone to charge overnight without turning it off and everyday I wake up at 100%
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Not showing 100% even while left ON and charging
Tops out at 95% or 98%, but keeps varying from time to time ..... I have had the phone (XPS) for three days and not seen a 100% charge till now . Also one thing I have noticed is that the Notification light turns from Orange to Green. That's when I normally take the phone off charge.
Mine charges to 100% and stays at 100%.
mine SXS takes 20 minutes from 99 to 100%.
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Any idea why the Xperia S only charges to 95% if you charge it whilst off but is happy to charge 100% when left on to charge.
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Under UK generic .75 the phone charges all the way to 100% while off now
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Tops out at 95% or 98%, but keeps varying from time to time ..... I have had the phone (XPS) for three days and not seen a 100% charge till now . Also one thing I have noticed is that the Notification light turns from Orange to Green. That's when I normally take the phone off charge.
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The led turns green at 90%. That's when it slows down charging to protect the battery..
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I have this doubt since purchasing the Xperia Z!
As soon buy my Xperia Z2 and the store where I will buy it is difficult to leave the charging device 30 minutes before turning it on to test it!
As difficult as it was I let mine charge for an hour or so before I used it. Not sure if I needed to but was in work at the time so had a few things to keep me busy while charging
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My phone had 62% battery when I recieved it. Probably my contractor that installed some apps and charged it. I didn't charge it untill it was empty.
I wonder what is the need to leave charging for 30 minutes before turning on the device for the first time since the other brands of devices do not need it!
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I wonder what is the need to leave charging for 30 minutes before turning on the device for the first time since the other brands of devices do not need it!
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Mine also came with 60% battery when I got it, I think its normal to keep a charge in the battery because it helps battery life.
I let mine drain right down that first day then I charged to 100% overnight.
I currently get to end of day with around 50-60% left
You should always charge them to full before first use. The charge that's in there is only a manufacturing charge, which is enough to keep the cells active.
Also, you shouldn't drain it completely. Lithium works best from around 30%-80% charge.
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You should always charge them to full before first use. The charge that's in there is only a manufacturing charge, which is enough to keep the cells active.
Also, you shouldn't drain it completely. Lithium works best from around 30%-80% charge.
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What I find strange is why other brands of devices do not have this rule??
Li-ion batteries don't need to be fully charged before first use. They don't suffer from "memory" like Ni-Cd. But it is true that for best life you should charge it between 20/30%- 80%. If you plan on storing the phone without use for a long time, best is to charge it to 50-60% (not 100%) and put it away.
Go use and enjoy your phones!
PS: A few laptop manufacturers (like Samsung) have an "extended battery life" mode that you can enable where the battery stops charging at 80%.
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What I find strange is why other brands of devices do not have this rule??
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Not all devices may say it, but all should be charged before initial use.
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Li-ion batteries don't need to be fully charged before first use. They don't suffer from "memory" like Ni-Cd. But it is true that for best life you should charge it between 20/30%- 80%. If you plan on storing the phone without use for a long time, best is to charge it to 50-60% (not 100%) and put it away.
Go use and enjoy your phones!
PS: A few laptop manufacturers (like Samsung) have an "extended battery life" mode that you can enable where the battery stops charging at 80%.
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You're right, they don't have the memory effect, but they do need charging before use. But yea, storing with at least 2/3rd charge is best.
BTW I sell batteries for a living, have done for 15 years.
Ok so is the correct answer yes, charge for 30mins or not necessary? Seems both sides of argument has support
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Ok so is the correct answer yes, charge for 30mins or not necessary? Seems both sides of argument has support
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As an electrical engineer I have to say: You should charge it before first use. 30 mins charge should be fine.
Well, it might be not so obvious for the battery in Z2, as it was manufactured not a long time ago, but it could end up in battery degradation, if the battery has been stored for a long period of time without usage.
Ok so with the Z2's being manufactured within the last month it probably isn't needed then
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Ok so with the Z2's being manufactured within the last month it probably isn't needed then
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Well, it's hard to say. Precharging the phone won't hurt.
I charged my first z2 for half an hour, and my second one was up and getting flashed within ten mins. I actually found the second one to be better on battery. I do agree that if the phone has been sat dormant for a long while you should charge, but as these things have literally just been made it'll make zero difference.
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I know there is many article out there saying is OK to charge overnight as your phone is smart enough to prevent overcharge. But since this is a new adaptive fast charge charger, I thought it might have a different story. So guys, is it ok to charge overnight using the given adaptive fast charge charger? Thanks
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I know there is many article out there saying is OK to charge overnight as your phone is smart enough to prevent overcharge. But since this is a new adaptive fast charge charger, I thought it might have a different story. So guys, is it ok to charge overnight using the given adaptive fast charge charger? Thanks
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Technically yes because charger nowadays automatically cut-off the supply after fully charged, but you never know when would that function of your charger stop working or whether it is working properly right? So, no, unless you are willing to take the risk
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Technically yes because charger nowadays automatically cut-off the supply after fully charged, but you never know when would that function of your charger stop working or whether it is working properly right? So, no, unless you are willing to take the risk
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If it does cut off supply I wonder why phone stay constantly 100 percent. Any explanation?
bibiner said:
If it does cut off supply I wonder why phone stay constantly 100 percent. Any explanation?
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it's stops but after it load again with conservation charge..in the past (HTC desire) I used a kernel patch to make a kernel that do it that way..original it was charge again from 90 percent..so I waked up and phone was at 91 lol..
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it's stops but after it load again with conservation charge..in the past (HTC desire) I used a kernel patch to make a kernel that do it that way..original it was charge again from 90 percent..so I waked up and phone was at 91 lol..
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I see. So the s6 edge will stay 100 instead of dropping to 90 and charge. Thanks.
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If it does cut off supply I wonder why phone stay constantly 100 percent. Any explanation?
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From what I understand so far, when your device is fully charged, the supply (to your battery) is cut off, and the battery stay idle, at the same time direct current is continuously supplied to your device to power it up, but the battery itself is not charging.
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From what I understand so far, when your device is fully charged, the supply (to your battery) is cut off, and the battery stay idle, at the same time direct current is continuously supplied to your device to power it up, but the battery itself is not charging.
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Oh this is very interesting. Thanks.
I just got my cradle and it took 4 hours for my battery to charge. Is that how long it's supposed to take?
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I just got my cradle and it took 4 hours for my battery to charge. Is that how long it's supposed to take?
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Its meant to discharge fully and then charge your battery.
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Its meant to discharge fully and then charge your battery.
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I don't understand. The battery was fully discharged in my phone then I put it in the cradle. 4 hours later the light turned green.
I've noticed it's pretty slow. I don't know if it's 4 hours, but it's definitely at least 3
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I don't understand. The battery was fully discharged in my phone then I put it in the cradle. 4 hours later the light turned green.
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Your phone will never truly fully discharge the battery (safety measure) it has to save enough to shut down properly. So that is part of it... I don't know if the cradle is set up to fast charge either... I doubt it, considering the phone should last longer than four hours any way. I'm happy to have a FREE extra battery, and cradle... It charges the battery, that's all I'm really looking for... I you are unhappy with it, I suppose you could send it back...
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I'll try to remember to check mine next time. I don't think it takes that long though!
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Its meant to discharge fully and then charge your battery.
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No such thing is happening. Please do not spread misinformation.
It charges slower than the phone because it does not have Quick Charge, it's a very simple charger. Label says it puts out 1.6A at 4.4V, which means the battery probably charges at about 1A on average. Charging is never 100% efficient and charging does not progress in a linear fashion, it slows down past 80% to near-trickle, otherwise the battery would overheat.
Chargers don't discharge batteries to charge them. This isn't 1990 and our battery isn't NiCad.
I just don't know why they're calling it a cradle. You're not resting your device on it. Those are cradles, this is a battery charger.
THIS is a cradle: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A1LWHYTZATVG8I
However, this thread is otherwise interesting, I've used my battery charger for a few cycles, meh, it charges my spare battery overnight.
I know this is an older thread, but what's the experience with this cradle? I just got a used V10 on Swappa with this cradle and it does seem like it's taking a while to charge. I have no problem with how long it's taking, but I need to know if it's defective so I can do something about it on Swappa.
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I know this is an older thread, but what's the experience with this cradle? I just got a used V10 on Swappa with this cradle and it does seem like it's taking a while to charge. I have no problem with how long it's taking, but I need to know if it's defective so I can do something about it on Swappa.
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It doesn't have fast charging like the phone itself... It's fine.
Common sense isn't all that common