So the NA launch is soon upon us and can't wait to get the SGS3. However besides additional sdcard storage is there anything else between the different size models? Such as the internal storage?
I'm guessing it's partitions on the 16GB one is the same setup as the S2 but would getting the 32GB model give me more internal as well as sd? Or would it just be sd only and cheaper to buy an ext. sdcard?
I'm curious because with all the partitions and chopping of the sdcard down into different sections as well as the SGS3 being bigger in rom size and thus bigger nandroid backups what's best? I know it's cheaper to buy a separate card for plain storage but technically speaking would it just be easier to have a bigger card built into the phone in the first place?
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The only difference is the amount of memory. Nothing else. As far as your apps storage goes, it's as much as you have left on the phone... so if you have 10gb left... you can install 10gb apps.
Identical phone, more storage, so if you want your Apps on internal memory then go for 32gb or just the 16gb and keep Apps internal and media external if you use that much.
Michael_P said:
Identical phone, more storage, so if you want your Apps on internal memory then go for 32gb or just the 16gb and keep Apps internal and media external if you use that much.
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I'm guessing the 16GB model has 2GBs of internal for apps etc so the 32GB has 4? Or is it the same? Can anyone confirm? This is mainly what I'm wondering
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dbzgod said:
I'm guessing the 16GB model has 2GBs of internal for apps etc so the 32GB has 4? Or is it the same? Can anyone confirm? This is mainly what I'm wondering
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11GB.. there's no set partition for apps storage.
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11GB.. there's no set partition for apps storage.
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Ah I see so samsung changed their partitions with the SGS3 over how they did it on the S2? You get 12.3 GBs left on the S2 for sdcard and a separate 2GBs for internal? So if the S3 has 11 total where is our missing space? 16 to 11?
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So if the S3 has 11 total where is our missing space? 16 to 11?
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I won't go into the details (there are enough technical description on WHY) bu you loose roughly 7-10% of storage due to the filesystem.
Let's say it was a nice round 10%; you'd have 14.54GB left on the device.
Now substract the 1GB partition of the system, 1GB partition of the cache and 400MB of the secure storage.
You're now down to 12. With the additional partitions such as recovery, the binary counter location, ... you're down to a nice round 11.
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I won't go into the details (there are enough technical description on WHY) bu you loose roughly 7-10% of storage due to the filesystem.
Let's say it was a nice round 10%; you'd have 14.54GB left on the device.
Now substract the 1GB partition of the system, 1GB partition of the cache and 400MB of the secure storage.
You're now down to 12. With the additional partitions such as recovery, the binary counter location, ... you're down to a nice round 11.
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Thanks, no worries on the tech details I know this already, I just wasn't getting any direct answer about the internal storage section, bortak came off like he only was talking about the SD card storage. Thanks for the info, glad Samsung made the switch to just having all the apps on the whole of the remaining sd card space rather then having a separate partition which I always thought was kinda dumb to begin with.
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How come the EVO 3D only has 1 gig of internal storage? I'm really wanting this phone this worries me. My Asus Transformer has 32 gigs of internal storage and with all the apps and everything I have on it, I'm well above 18 gigs used. And that's not including movies (stored on MicroSD).
So with that said, with 1 gig of internal storage, this device is VERY limited to how many programs you can load onto it right?
And I know there is App2SD but not all apps are compatible doing that. How do you guys fare with such limited internal storage?
Even on the OGVO I never had issues, but then again, I don't download the entire market.
When they start releasing roms I'm sure it will free up a couple more gb of internal storage BC were suppose to have 4. I think but I'm not sure a lot of rom was used for sense and the security they used to lock the phone.
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No problems here. I haunt even used a third.. there is no need to have hundreds of apps..
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* Pre-Honeycomb Android versions have a space limitation on installed apps.
* Froyo and Gingerbread grants the ability to move applicable apps to external media (microSD).
* Honeycomb takes advantage of all available space for application installation while removing the ability to move apps to external media.
ThaiM said:
How come the EVO 3D only has 1 gig of internal storage? I'm really wanting this phone this worries me. My Asus Transformer has 32 gigs of internal storage and with all the apps and everything I have on it, I'm well above 18 gigs used. And that's not including movies (stored on MicroSD).
So with that said, with 1 gig of internal storage, this device is VERY limited to how many programs you can load onto it right?
And I know there is App2SD but not all apps are compatible doing that. How do you guys fare with such limited internal storage?
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You do realize that you are confusing the storage mediums, right? The 32gb of storage on your transformer is the same as the 8gb of storage on the SD card that comes with the Evo 3D. You can always install a 32gb card if you want. The Asus only has 1gb of "internal storage." in the way you are lookig at this.
You really are not going to find many phones with more internal storage unless they are sealed and have no MicroSD slot (aka iPhone).
Well I was really worried to owned a EVO and only had like 400 mb left. And the Thunderbird like 2.5 gb free (out of the 8gb internal that they say it has) anyways most apps over 10mb will let you moved to SD card , I download a lot apps and games are the only ones with the big space , I was amazed the most 10 mb + in iPhone were only like 3mb in Android, so don't worry you'll be ok
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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You do realize that you are confusing the storage mediums, right? The 32gb of storage on your transformer is the same as the 8gb of storage on the SD card that comes with the Evo 3D. You can always install a 32gb card if you want. The Asus only has 1gb of "internal storage." in the way you are lookig at this.
You really are not going to find many phones with more internal storage unless they are sealed and have no MicroSD slot (aka iPhone).
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Isn't the 16/32GB on the transformer internal (with the ability to add up to another 32GB via microSD)? (I'm not sure, hence the question)
Dude 1GB is like a godsend for me. My OGVO had >300MB when it was bone stock, I'm very thankful for my 1GB and you should be too. But I also try not to load up my phones with bull**** I never use and usually have like 2-8 apps downloaded, max. I'd just get a bigger SD card if it bothers you that much, 32 gigs is like $40.
A lot of the 4gb is the ROM and security features. Once we can install custom ROMs we will get a couple gigs back. I don't know why I just said that. A previous poster said that. LOL I fail at forums. ;P
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Dude 1GB is like a godsend for me. My OGVO had >300MB when it was bone stock, I'm very thankful for my 1GB and you should be too. But I also try not to load up my phones with bull**** I never use and usually have like 2-8 apps downloaded, max. I'd just get a bigger SD card if it bothers you that much, 32 gigs is like $40.
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+1 on this.
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Isn't the 16/32GB on the transformer internal (with the ability to add up to another 32GB via microSD)? (I'm not sure, hence the question)
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It's internal in the sense that it is built inside the unit, but its more like a SSD setup. Another way to think about it is like the 16/32 you are talking about is a MicroSD and you can add a second MicroSD. I mean it's not, but for conceptual reasons, that is one way to understand it.
You are correct....however...this 1g is for sense...apps and memory management file and the 3vo has plenty unless you are going to load 600+ apps SD another user here does...600 hundred...my god...
I was a bit concerned at first coming from a Droid x. That thing was the king of space when it came out. I think apps to SD was just coming out then. Now almost all apps are s2d. I've got 50+ apps using 300mb on phone, a couple gigs app usage on SD. I don't think its an issue any more.
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I apologize in advance if this topic has been covered already. Having said that, is there any way to increase the device memory on the i777? 2gb isn't enough for my needs and I was hoping someone has figured out how to increase it. I'd be happy with 4gb.
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It has 16gb.....
It comes with 16gb internal sd card and an external sd card slot that supports up to 32 gigs. Push menu then settings then storage and it will tell you your free space look at the picture i attached the usb storage is the internal sd card
First 2gigs are for your system. ROM etc. Nothing should be filling that up, unless something is wrong.
The other 12gigs are for anything else you install. Apps/Pictures/Backups. If those 12 gigs run out, then you buy a MicroSD card.
I know this is a super old thread but just had a couple real easy questions...
Is it normal for apps to save files both to my phone memory and SD card (i have not downloaded any apps to do this)?
And second, Where does the device memory (which I believe is the 2 gig the original poster was talking about) come into play? I mean does it store the files their for quick access?
I'm due for an upgrade, and am considering the GS3 or possibly even the Note 2 if I can hold out that long.
I'm curious why I would ever need more than 16gb of internal storage when I could easily buy a 64gb microSD for ~50$
I understand apps can't be installed on the SD (stock, at least), but other than that, is there any reason to have more internal storage?
You can just buy a 64 GB and microSD. Yes, you can't install apps on the SD card... in theory. But THE solution is there :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1772234
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I'm due for an upgrade, and am considering the GS3 or possibly even the Note 2 if I can hold out that long.
I'm curious why I would ever need more than 16gb of internal storage when I could easily buy a 64gb microSD for ~50$
I understand apps can't be installed on the SD (stock, at least), but other than that, is there any reason to have more internal storage?
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u need more internal storage if u are gamers..if ur fon not rooted..u cant move apps 2 sd..all big and small size game will be stored in internal memory..
Is it possible to fool the Amaze to show the SD card as the internal storage and use it as internal storage? What about the 14GB internal SD to be in place of the 2GB internal storage and the SD card to be in place of the 14GB internal SD, so that removing the SD card doesn't impair the system.
I want 32 GB for games, not that crappy 2GB internal storage I have. There are apps that link the files to the internal storage, but I want a better solution (the one I listed above)
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Is it possible to fool the Amaze to show the SD card as the internal storage and use it as internal storage? What about the 14GB internal SD to be in place of the 2GB internal storage and the SD card to be in place of the 14GB internal SD, so that removing the SD card doesn't impair the system.
I want 32 GB for games, not that crappy 2GB internal storage I have. There are apps that link the files to the internal storage, but I want a better solution (the one I listed above)
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What you want is an apple device which has that cramped up memory which in my opinion sucks... See android have 2gb of internal storage for apps because our apps are created to be able to save most of the memory onto the SD Card... If u want 32gb of memory for games ill recommend to get an iPod touch that way u will save your phones battery... I only support ipods, iPhones are just ridiculous trying to keep up with android which is not working...
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You might as well just use apps2sd
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No wonder my sister's 16GB Iphone 4S get's slow when she put too many apps on her phone. She will be back with android soon
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What you want is an apple device which has that cramped up memory which in my opinion sucks... See android have 2gb of internal storage for apps because our apps are created to be able to save most of the memory onto the SD Card... If u want 32gb of memory for games ill recommend to get an iPod touch that way u will save your phones battery... I only support ipods, iPhones are just ridiculous trying to keep up with android which is not working...
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I don't like apple devices as iOS is a locked operating system. Its like living in a communist country. I want more space for gaming as I am a gamer. Someone modded the Note II to do that, so I was wondering for the Amaze. I have bought many games on Google Play and I, in no way, want to spend twice for the same game on the iPod, plus Apple overprice their ridiculous products (I know Samsung does so, too, but at least they give more freedom and features).
One 2 GB game like NOVA 3, Modern Combat 3, Amazing Spiderman, or Dark Knight Rises will fill it up, then you are left with insufficient space.
I have found an experimental fix as idk if removing the external sd would crash the system:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1874485
Not sure if this is what you're lookin for. But I've read THIS thread a while back. It's only for GameLoft games.
You won't be able to download it from the Play Store so you'll have to retrieve and install it manually but it still works.
The small memory size is getting rather annoying, and since SSD's are fast enough to perform like (very) slow memory, I'd like to set up a swap partition on my YP-G70 to function as some virtual memory.
I've found this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231 and I wondered if it will work with the YP-G70 since I know our system uses some weird drive partitioning scheme.
Also, how badly will this shorten the devices lifespan. (Well, technically lifespan of the internal drive, but since that's non-replacable ...)
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The small memory size is getting rather annoying, and since SSD's are fast enough to perform like (very) slow memory, I'd like to set up a swap partition on my YP-G70 to function as some virtual memory.
I've found this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231 and I wondered if it will work with the YP-G70 since I know our system uses some weird drive partitioning scheme.
Also, how badly will this shorten the devices lifespan. (Well, technically lifespan of the internal drive, but since that's non-replacable ...)
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The guide implies an external SD card.. Doesn't it?
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The guide implies an external SD card.. Doesn't it?
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Yeah, wasn't really paying attention to that part. I'm used to GB style thinkign where everything for the system has to be on the internal card.
But yeah, I'd definitely put it on an external card, if it will work.
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Yeah, wasn't really paying attention to that part. I'm used to GB style thinkign where everything for the system has to be on the internal card.
But yeah, I'd definitely put it on an external card, if it will work.
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Well, In that case the "weird" partitioning should not affect it at all.:good:
its theres a way to swap internal to external sd in 4.4. like in the 4.3?
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lildhiel08 said:
its theres a way to swap internal to external sd in 4.4. like in the 4.3?
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Apparently, it's possible, but I haven't seen anything swapping "tricks" for the Galaxy Player (or many other devices, for that matter). You can, however, use Directory Bind, this script, or Root External 2 Internal SD.