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Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
andrawer said:
Surprised myself and after two weeks of ownership I am still on the I717 Note's stock ROM. This was after constantly ROM flashing on my prior Android Samsung Infuse and iPhone4 & 3G (Jailbreak of course).
Stock battery life is decent and launchers like GO, ADW, etc. give plenty of ability to change icons, UI behavior, etc.
So far I haven't found any annoying problems that would require me to fix via rooting.
I HAD to root my prior Samsung Infuse because it had software bugs that required root to fix BUT I am real PROUD of my Note's ability to run strong and solid as a stock ROM. I haven't been forced to reboot yet in 2 weeks of ownership! Yeha!
For myself the KEY is to make myself to NOT TO LOOK AT Applications:Running Services...it makes me sick to see all those unnecessary apps loaded up.
I simply wanted to see how the Note behaved out-of-the box...and so far real impressed.
Will I ever ROOT - Probably, just to get rid of bloatware AND I will need to tether occasionally once I start traveling again.
Will I ever replace the ROM? Not sure, depends on features but definitely not interested in ROMs that just change icons, startup screens and colors.
anyway, this is just post to say how satisfied, thus far, with the Note's performance...as is.
Anything I'm missing that needs root to fix?
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You can stop those with Autostarts (free in the market), and requires root. It prevents them from opening at all. If you end up checking it out, use the "after startup" disable option.
- Root required apps (there a lot of really good ones - this alone would be enough for me to root).
If you're not interested in theming, or a lot of modifications, then stock is cool. Features, changes, and modifications from custom roms can be patched to stock roms; the only advantage of using custom ones is that they're baked in for you.
I am sticking on stock rom for now, just going to root so I can restore a lot of my old apps, nothing more.
I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
Synner12 said:
I've already flashed Da_G's root/over clock kernel, which got rid of the lag I was seeing. As soon as cwm comes out of beta I'm going to check out saurom. The Note's out of the box experience is one of the best I've seen, but there is just too much improvement to be had to stay stock, IMHO.
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CMW b3 seems to be flawless so far!
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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I think it is a good idea to stay all stock until ics update comes out and we apply it. (I expect them to want us to be all stock when applying the ics update that is why)
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Fair enough but there will be several ICS Roms months before official AT&T. (I am typing from my ICS Captivate right now for example). Plus you can always flash back to stock.
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I was stock from best buy to my house and that's it and I can't wait till I can get a sub 100mb ROM onto here. The bloat is sickening and even after removing down to mid 100 it's still not performing to it's non touchwiz potential.
Just to throw in my two-cents, I am fairly impressed as well with the Touchwiz 4.0 interface. Coming from an Atrix (blur) and Inspire (sense), touchwiz is a big step up imo. It feels like gingerbread done right to me. Although it isn't without a few issues, like the slight but noticable lag (to be fair all stock roms seem to stutter a bit occasionally), the no wallpaper scrolling and no landscape mode for the touchwiz launcher.
I think it will be interesting to see what devs or even Samsung/AT&T come up with to merge Touchwiz and ICS. It's gonna be a good year in the ROM community on this phone I can feel it.
Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
Sarius24 said:
Both my notes are on stock. I have no need for a rom.
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Yeah but... stock IS a ROM, too.
I think it is a great thing that this phone is so good that we can use it stock. Haven't got mine yet but I only plan to Root it and use stock for a few weeks, at least.
So far yes
Right now there really aren't that many roms for the galaxy note lte so I'm going to wait until ICS comes out play with that for a while then I'll be flashing away!
I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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I think people obsess over nothing rather than actually use their devices. That said, I'm not bothering to flash anyone's cooked ROM until there's an ICS update from Samsung.
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^That, less the o/c kernel. The performance boost isn't exacted necessary, but you WILL notice it.
I was going to try and stick with the stock ROM as long as possible. However, my addiction got the best of me, and im now laying in bed at the end of my first full day with my Note, and I'm running TPC2 with Da_G's OC kernel. Go figure. Haha.
Not that I was having troubles with the stock ROM, as it was actually really smooth and lag free for the most part. On the other hand, now my Note is an absolute beast. The Note is definitely the first Android I've been happy with out of the box, but I would still rather be running a custom ROM, if not just so I can tell people it's running custom software when I show them my phone.
Samsung really hit it out of the park with this phone. I will never look at a smaller phone the same way again. Forever ruined! And I find the SPen to be really comfy for just navigating my phone and precision of selection. Swyping is fun with it.
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I think it's not necessary for me to do anything yet. But don't get me wrong, I will root the phone eventually. I have a real problem with ATT telling me that I "have" to suffer software I don't want on MY phone. That in its self encourages me to root. But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would affect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days (window of time for return) is up.
I flashed roms daily on my Inspire, but I am stock now and planning on staying that way forever or at least until If leaks. the only thing I've done is root to disable ads and remove bloatware.
I'm still stock. I've rooted and jailbrake-ed other phones. I really like this one the way it is. The bloatware etc don't bother me much. I may root after ICS. For now, my Note rocks pretty hard just the way it is.
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But, I am waiting to see if ICS is really going to be available soon.
I wonder though if Rooting would effect the upgrade process--perhaps someone could answer this for me. If not, I would be tempted to root my Note after the thirty days is up.
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Are you asking if root will affect upgrading to ICS? The answer to that is no. If you flash a custom ROM then that answer is yes. You would need to go back to stock ROM for the ICS update from ATT. However, there will be ICS ROMs here well before ATT releases it.
What's the 30 days thing? Not getting that part. What happens in 30 days? Maybe you mean the window to return your Note. I agree you might want to wait for that to expire before root. But you can also un-root if you want.
I'm on stock rom and don't plan to root anytime soon for both of my devices the note and gnex!
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I got a 10.1 wifi recently and am wondering if its worth it to root now and get ics installed (with the -of no camera) or to wait untill samsung gets its act together, and get the offical version.
You're asking in an Android Hacking forum, we're all rooted and I'd bet 80% are running ICS .
If you can live without the camera then definitely go for it, if you're comfortable. You could be waiting a while on Samsung, they tend to delay such things.
If do decide to root it, don't be afraid to ask questions here. Welcome to XDA.
I don't know if the question asked is appropriate or a trick question considering this forum is completely dedicated to the benefits of hacking to gain maximum benefit.
LoaganThack said:
I got a 10.1 wifi recently and am wondering if its worth it to root now and get ics installed (with the -of no camera) or to wait untill samsung gets its act together, and get the offical version.
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It's really not very hard to try it out for yourself and see if you like it. You can always flash back to stock if you need to.
I have CM9 ICS on my personal tablet, but am still using 3.2 on my G-Tab 10.1 because I need the camera for work. I am running the Overcome ROM on it though, which gives me a little more options/flexibility than stock samsung.
but as far as performance, there is little difference between 3.2 HC and ICS (at least at this point). There are some UI differences that I like, but they are minor changes from honeycomb, so don't expect a huge difference on ICS.
Easy answer: yes, it is. And it's very easy to install ics. Just do it and have fun.
Three more questions:
Is there any other bugs besides the camera not working?
And any links to upto date root and ics (i think i read 4.0.4?)?
Is it not possible to get the camera drivers (which from what I have read is the missing link) from the old stock version?
Fyi I have the Samsung 10.1 wifi gt-p7510
Thank you guys already I am not trolling btw i have never rooted/ flash a new operating system on android and kind of afraid of bricking my tablet.
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Three more questions:
Is there any other bugs besides the camera not working?
And any links to upto date root and ics (i think i read 4.0.4?)?
Is it not possible to get the camera drivers (which from what I have read is the missing link) from the old stock version?
Fyi I have the Samsung 10.1 wifi gt-p7510
Thank you guys already I am not trolling btw i have never rooted/ flash a new operating system on android and kind of afraid of bricking my tablet.
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QBKing77 has great video instructions on YouTube,check it out. Very easy. Make sure you do a backup b4 putting a rom on and make sure it's for your Tab. Only issue I have ever had is no camera, but I knew that going in and I use my S2 for pics anyway. We can't get the camera because Sammy will not release the needed info. You can brick your tablet that's a risk but there r ways to unbrick, like I said just make sure the root method and from is for your version of the Galaxy Tab.
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Once rooted you wont look back and its so easy and quick to do. Much more freedom IMO, I started with ICS and its great, but went back to HC just because of the camera. Such a shame, I have htc dhd phone rooted on ics and camera works fine, just a samsung thing.
As said previously, give it a try
Question about rooting what dose it allow you to do?
Rooting allows you to gain access to the system files, lets just say its like your employee ID to get into your company
i rooted my g tab to ics once, i guess it was worth it, but i went back to honeycomb because of the camera.
It's not like camera on a tab plays a great feature, because taking pictures with the tab is like using a laptop to take a 5MP picture.
I'd say I never use the camera on my tab.......... Until I flashed ics then I just kept needing it think it's just a case of wanting what you don't have.. So I'm back to HC.
Is there any good roms out there with the camera working? Sorry for the noob question, Im a new tab owner.
Misledz said:
It's not like camera on a tab plays a great feature, because taking pictures with the tab is like using a laptop to take a 5MP picture.
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I use the camera with visidon which lets me face lock certain apps, also lets me make video calls and google goggles to translate foreign signs so yeah camera is a must have for me and not necessarily for taking pictures
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Sorry to bump this, but I'm curious to know if it's easy to replace the tablet for a decent price? That's really my only concern about rooting my tablet.
Of course it is, you are in the right place
i havent flashed the 10.1 to ICS purely because i use the camera for such things as skype or google hangouts.
so im using overcome rom, but i miss being able to group apps into a folder like ICS can do
ICS Or Not??? That is the Question!!!!
Over the last 6 months I have tried every ROM listed for the Galaxy Tab here on XDA, including ICS. I must say ICS offers better battery life, faster processing and better visuals, but I am like a few others and need the camera so I am sticking with Galaxy Task Rom. Out of all of them it is the most stable, and fastest giving me Quadrant Scores of just under 3100. Using ICS I was closer to 3600 and I thought at one point hit 3800, but I think that was a fluke, but then I had no camera, so back to 3.2. For me I have compiled the best apps I could to make my tablet a screamer.....If you have any others please let me know.
Galaxy Task
OC 1.4 Pershoot Kernel (is there a 1.5 or 1.6)
Swapper File @ 500mb (app)
SD Speed Boost set at 4000 (app)
Volume + set on Beats Emulation with +10 speaker increase (app)
Poweramp for a 10 band equalizer for great sound (app)
Now using the same apps with ICS made it ultra fast. But I wish the camera worked.
Definately appreciate everyone on here with their input.....my knowledge is only as good as flashing and recovery, but am trying to learn more as I move forward. Love the Galaxy Tab, it is my 10th tablet I have owned and my favorite. Now I have to figure out how to flash my Atrix 2 phone........love this site!!!!
Quick ques about ICS Roms [from what I've seen in Cm9/Muiu]
1. can you change screen mode [dynamic/movie/normal]
2. change font styles?
I don't remember seeing these options, but it was about a month ago when I flashed these Roms?
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Hi all, after some advice from fellow S2 owners...
Okay, so I have a UK sim free galaxy S2 which I recently updated to ICS with the OTA update, and it looks great but man it drains the battery!. Anyways Ive always thought about doing my first root and trying another rom, and after this update it has made me think about it more- so I have a few Q's:
1. Obviously warranty springs to mind, I know you can reflash back to stock etc, but what happens if I drop 'my precious' and the screen cracks and I cant use the display to flash back before claiming on insurance?!! is there a way where I can just plug the S2 into USB and control the whole thing from the PC? basically, is there a failsafe plan of some sort??
2. MIUI has always caught my eye, does anyone use the ICS version day in, day out and is it now reliable and fully functional now the official ICS sources are out?
3. How dows MIUI ICS / Cyanogen compare to Stock rooted ICS for speed & battery life?
4. Do many of you use custom kernels? and if so which have proved good for your build?
Thanks in advance - just narrowing down my options and any info & advice will be much appreciated...
Cheers
Vis.
bump... any advice?
Hey guys, just got this phone from a friend because he got the s3. It is already rooted, here is a screenshot
My friend did this because he wanted ICS, but now its officially here for the s2 or? He was complaining that the battery drained pretty fast when using, so he bought a new battery, a Yoobao 1700mAh but he didnt really notice an improvement. I was saying that it was the rom and/or that he had loads of stuff on the phone and everything connected and apps running etc. So now he have deleted everything and ive installed my stuff like google account, facebook etc and I find it to be decent, but still not good. I cant compare it to how he said it was so maybe the problem is already fixed. But anyways i was wondering if anyone could help me get back everything to stock? If it has 4.0 now I want to try stock just to see. If not, are there any better roms than im using now?
And since I'm new to samsung phones (had iphone 3gs, optimus 2x and Desire HD before) are there anyway to make my phone look the same as I have now, with touchwiz?
I heard you can download a launcher app that removes touchwiz completely, because I really like stock android 4.0 look Hope you understand my questions, sry for the long text
Learn how to wipe using cwm
Format data cache system sdcard dalvik using cwm
Learn how to flash using Odin
Get stock ROM from sammobile.com or checkfus dowbloader
could anyone link me a guide?
Try using facebook in a browser, its a power hog
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Hello Guys!
I am a little sick of all these custom roms that claim to be stable but have memory leaks and what not. rebooting my phone every day because my ram is getting low and I cant run navigation + spotify is a little bit too G1 for my taste. I didn't get THE top of the notch phone to have to decide wether to listen to music or get where i want in my car because the ram is too low.
So I wanna go back to kinda-stock but still keep root because it's needed for LBE privacy guard, my most beloved app to keep those private information suckkers away from my stuff.
I wanted to unroot, go back to stock and then root again, but for some reason Odin doesn't recognize my phone. Yes, drivers are installed but it just doesn't find it. might be a problem with win8+64bit or whatever, point is Odin ain't on the table anymore.
Now i figured, just get a custom rom that is based on the stock-rom but keeps my root. However all the devs are so trying to get JB to the ppl that there are barely any good solid roms left with "just" ICS. No offense, i love all the work the devs put in there to get JB running without the neccessary codework form samsung but it's nothing for me anymore. I wanna have a phone to do my everyday bidding with and if i feel like messing around with custom stuff I'll get my dev phone out of the drawer again.
So point of the story is, has anyone a rom in mind, that is based on stock + root and close to no changes after that? Would be greatly appreciated!
Use mobile odin to flash original firmware. It will keep your phone rooted.
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Keks1234 said:
Hello Guys!
I am a little sick of all these custom roms that claim to be stable but have memory leaks and what not. rebooting my phone every day because my ram is getting low and I cant run navigation + spotify is a little bit too G1 for my taste. I didn't get THE top of the notch phone to have to decide wether to listen to music or get where i want in my car because the ram is too low.
So I wanna go back to kinda-stock but still keep root because it's needed for LBE privacy guard, my most beloved app to keep those private information suckkers away from my stuff.
I wanted to unroot, go back to stock and then root again, but for some reason Odin doesn't recognize my phone. Yes, drivers are installed but it just doesn't find it. might be a problem with win8+64bit or whatever, point is Odin ain't on the table anymore.
Now i figured, just get a custom rom that is based on the stock-rom but keeps my root. However all the devs are so trying to get JB to the ppl that there are barely any good solid roms left with "just" ICS. No offense, i love all the work the devs put in there to get JB running without the neccessary codework form samsung but it's nothing for me anymore. I wanna have a phone to do my everyday bidding with and if i feel like messing around with custom stuff I'll get my dev phone out of the drawer again.
So point of the story is, has anyone a rom in mind, that is based on stock + root and close to no changes after that? Would be greatly appreciated!
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I know i am biased because it is my ROM, however i believe for my ROM to be stable and so far all of my users are happy with it
Maybe give it a try and see what you think , also the memory leak exists in all STOCK BASED Sammy ROMS
However i have built a fix into my ROM that i believe doesnt completely get rid of it however i think it works quite well .
IOIDroid ROM Series
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811155
Arsaw said:
Use mobile odin to flash original firmware. It will keep your phone rooted.
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agree
once you've used mobile you'll never used desktop odin again. chainfire is legend
remember to download both files though for mobile odin the apk plus the apk specific for our phone.
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IOIDroid said:
I know i am biased because it is my ROM, however i believe for my ROM to be stable and so far all of my users are happy with it
Maybe give it a try and see what you think , also the memory leak exists in all STOCK BASED Sammy ROMS
However i have built a fix into my ROM that i believe doesnt completely get rid of it however i think it works quite well .
IOIDroid ROM Series
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811155
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How does this happen anyways, i mean why would there be a leak even with the stock based roms? is there a leak even with the stock one? because i never notices these behaviors before i switched to jelly bean. You're a dev so you probably know more than i am. all i do is mobile business app dev with js&html5, so i am not that deep into android and what makes it work the way it does.
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How does this happen anyways, i mean why would there be a leak even with the stock based roms? is there a leak even with the stock one? because i never notices these behaviors before i switched to jelly bean. You're a dev so you probably know more than i am. all i do is mobile business app dev with js&html5, so i am not that deep into android and what makes it work the way it does.
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This memory leak is mainly caused by the kies Applications that is running in the background on the phone. I have got a part of my flashing process that moves this process to another location therefore preventing it from starting and this has resolved the problems or mostly resolved the problems.
If i was you i would give my rom a try and see what you think
**** i just lost all my files on my internalSDcard -.- including all my easyMoney backups with all my transactionhistory. that really pisses me off...well at least odin mobile is good
Keks1234 said:
**** i just lost all my files on my internalSDcard -.- including all my easyMoney backups with all my transactionhistory. that really pisses me off...well at least odin mobile is good
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My rom shoukdnt wipe your internal memory card and in relation to yoyr apps use titanium backup and the restore again once on the new rom
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IOIDroid said:
also the memory leak exists in all STOCK BASED Sammy ROMS
However i have built a fix into my ROM that i believe doesnt completely get rid of it however i think it works quite well .
IOIDroid ROM Series
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Not true at all, the memory leak is only present in aosp based ROMs, NOT stock Sammy ROMs.
That kiesexe or whatever in system/bin/ is not causing memory leaks, it is just using some ram, not using it all up such as a memory leak is described.
@OP stock sammy ROMs are just fine, even the latest JB leak is great, XXDLI5, I've been using it as a daily driver since it came out and I have no problems.
Use mobile Odin to flash whatever firmware you want, it will even keep your root.
"It's all in the game yo, all in the game..." - Omar Little
Keks1234 said:
Hello Guys!
I am a little sick of all these custom roms that claim to be stable but have memory leaks and what not. rebooting my phone every day because my ram is getting low and I cant run navigation + spotify is a little bit too G1 for my taste. I didn't get THE top of the notch phone to have to decide wether to listen to music or get where i want in my car because the ram is too low.
So I wanna go back to kinda-stock but still keep root because it's needed for LBE privacy guard, my most beloved app to keep those private information suckkers away from my stuff.
I wanted to unroot, go back to stock and then root again, but for some reason Odin doesn't recognize my phone. Yes, drivers are installed but it just doesn't find it. might be a problem with win8+64bit or whatever, point is Odin ain't on the table anymore.
Now i figured, just get a custom rom that is based on the stock-rom but keeps my root. However all the devs are so trying to get JB to the ppl that there are barely any good solid roms left with "just" ICS. No offense, i love all the work the devs put in there to get JB running without the neccessary codework form samsung but it's nothing for me anymore. I wanna have a phone to do my everyday bidding with and if i feel like messing around with custom stuff I'll get my dev phone out of the drawer again.
So point of the story is, has anyone a rom in mind, that is based on stock + root and close to no changes after that? Would be greatly appreciated!
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Description.
Sammy base, stable, Jelly bean, no lagg to date.
I have got ca. 350 apps from Google Play, and yet another ca. 200 system, they all work as if they were stock, no lagg, no great loading times, works brilliant (Except for Facebook, but that's a known problem...)
Give it a shot, you'll like it, if you want stock!