http://m.engadget.com/2012/06/14/cher-wang-htc-patents/?icid=eng_latest_art
HTC finally decided to play the same game apple is. I dunno but imo, to little to late. Chit shoulda been done a whole hell of a lot of time ago. But, nevertheless, they're doing something in the right direction.
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I have been wondering... coulnd't Google file a suit over the drop down notification bar, which Apple is using and was on Android first....?
Google wouldn't and won't do that. It's like the two world heavy weights goin at it. Plus one suit would only open a door for more. And the drop down notification bar is part of android, which is open source. In all honesty, android being open is a good and bad thing. Without android continuously advancing, then snags will become more frequent do to other oems hogging up patents (crapple). Being open though allows any oem to personalize their own version of the os. Android should go closed, and include a small cost to use, just to be able to use the patent system. F crapple up the tail pipe.
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Jeez, that really made me think. So apple can get a feature that is in vanilla android, copy it and patent it as its own?
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Art2Fly said:
Jeez, that really made me think. So apple can get a feature that is in vanilla android, copy it and patent it as its own?
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No they can't just do that ... Android is protected under open source licencing so they can probably use it but they can't patent
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mbaseball3 said:
Android should go closed, and include a small cost to use, just to be able to use the patent system.
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I strongly disagree. If Google closed Android the way iOS is closed, WE stand to lose the most. Android's openness is the main reason there are so many ROMs and MODs out there, the main reason it is so successful (can freely used by any phone maker).
Open source is about having the option to change the product to fit your needs. As a Linux user I value this and I hate how rigid Apple's products are in this regard - they make all the decisions and the user has no say in any of it because, as Apple sees it, the user is too dumb to know what is best for him or her.
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I strongly disagree. If Google closed Android the way iOS is closed, WE stand to lose the most. Android's openness is the main reason there are so many ROMs and MODs out there
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Didn't stop Windows Mobile 6.x ROMs, and it is a closed source/proprietary OS.
Meanee said:
Didn't stop Windows Mobile 6.x ROMs, and it is a closed source/proprietary OS.
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To a certain degree it did. Because Windows Mobile is closed source, most of the ROM mods and tools to modify the OS were basically hacks. With open source, we can compile and properly modify source code to fit any platform. You couldn't do that with Windows Mobile.
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No they can't just do that ... Android is protected under open source licencing so they can probably use it but they can't patent
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Actually, it is under open source, and if Apple is going to use it, they need to be open sourced also, which they aren't.
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Also, with Android being developed by millions of people in forums like XDA and apple only being developed by the "applet minors", I see Android advancing faster than Apple-I hope!
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Also, with Android being developed by millions of people in forums like XDA and apple only being developed by the "applet minors", I see Android advancing faster than Apple-I hope!
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The only problem is that there aren't being patents applied to the stuff that is being developed in forums like XDA. That creates a problem because you know as well as I do that Apple has their minions trolling these forums looking for new ideas that they can steal and patent themselves thus making all of the work the devs put into it completely useless.
Personally I say if you come up with something on here that's awesome, patent it. Don't use the patent for evil like apple just patent it and let it be open source. You would be the patent holder so you could let anyone use the product and it will help to stop evil companies like apple from destroying the phone market.
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The only problem is that there aren't being patents applied to the stuff that is being developed in forums like XDA. That creates a problem because you know as well as I do that Apple has their minions trolling these forums looking for new ideas that they can steal and patent themselves thus making all of the work the devs put into it completely useless.
Personally I say if you come up with something on here that's awesome, patent it. Don't use the patent for evil like apple just patent it and let it be open source. You would be the patent holder so you could let anyone use the product and it will help to stop evil companies like apple from destroying the phone market.
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Like the idea. But patents cost way to much. Last I heard was over $1,100. But that's for sn actual product. Dunno if it differs for software. Or hardware I guess
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The only problem is that there aren't being patents applied to the stuff that is being developed in forums like XDA. That creates a problem because you know as well as I do that Apple has their minions trolling these forums looking for new ideas that they can steal and patent themselves thus making all of the work the devs put into it completely useless.
Personally I say if you come up with something on here that's awesome, patent it. Don't use the patent for evil like apple just patent it and let it be open source. You would be the patent holder so you could let anyone use the product and it will help to stop evil companies like apple from destroying the phone market.
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Where does "prior art" come into play? If Android had it first and it wasn't able to be patented due to open source, Apple could come up with their own version but I would think they wouldn't be able to patent it (or at least not be able to use it against anyone) due to the "prior art" clause.
typhoonikan said:
I have been wondering... coulnd't Google file a suit over the drop down notification bar, which Apple is using and was on Android first....?
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The patent is still pending. I'm sure Google will go after apple once the patent is awarded.
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No they can't just do that ... Android is protected under open source licencing so they can probably use it but they can't patent
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Correct. Also Android features would also be covered under prior art patent discovery rules.
Edit: sorry I missed the post related to prior art above, is correct. Apple could not patent open source Android based features due to the prior art clause.
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Actually, it is under open source, and if Apple is going to use it, they need to be open sourced also, which they aren't.
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Apple doesn't need the source code to copy an idea.
carcass_freak said:
I strongly disagree. If Google closed Android the way iOS is closed, WE stand to lose the most. Android's openness is the main reason there are so many ROMs and MODs out there, the main reason it is so successful (can freely used by any phone maker).
Open source is about having the option to change the product to fit your needs. As a Linux user I value this and I hate how rigid Apple's products are in this regard - they make all the decisions and the user has no say in any of it because, as Apple sees it, the user is too dumb to know what is best for him or her.
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Steve Jobs actually said the reason for a one button mouse was so consumers wouldn't be confused as to why there is a second mouse button that doesn't really do anything, that tells you all you need to know about how Apple sees their customers
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Steve Jobs actually said the reason for a one button mouse was so consumers wouldn't be confused as to why there is a second mouse button that doesn't really do anything, that tells you all you need to know about how Apple sees their customers
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He was right. I've known a lot of people that don't ever use the right mouse button and don't know what it does. When you tell them how to do something they get confused between the left and right button and keep hitting the wrong one. I love it, I do almost everything with my mouse but I'm not the average computer user, my mom is. One button is simpler, that's why the iPhone and iPad only have 1 button. I've shown people how to do things on their Android phones and I get "I've never touched that button before" to that I ask "why not?" and the response "I didn't know what it did". My landlord had an Epic 4G for almost a year and one day I was commenting on the fact I wished my EVO had a camera button and she said "what camera button". I have a feeling that's why the iPhone doesn't have a dedicated camera button, it would confuse people.
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He was right. I've known a lot of people that don't ever use the right mouse button and don't know what it does. When you tell them how to do something they get confused between the left and right button and keep hitting the wrong one. I love it, I do almost everything with my mouse but I'm not the average computer user, my mom is. One button is simpler, that's why the iPhone and iPad only have 1 button. I've shown people how to do things on their Android phones and I get "I've never touched that button before" to that I ask "why not?" and the response "I didn't know what it did". My landlord had an Epic 4G for almost a year and one day I was commenting on the fact I wished my EVO had a camera button and she said "what camera button". I have a feeling that's why the iPhone doesn't have a dedicated camera button, it would confuse people.
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While this is true they give you instructions with your devices. The it boils down to two things people being lazy and not reading. And two people being to scared to adventure to new things. There is zero reason for no one to understand the basics of the tech they own. It is their fault. Tech isn't hard on any level.
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While this is true they give you instructions with your devices. The it boils down to two things people being lazy and not reading. And two people being to scared to adventure to new things. There is zero reason for no one to understand the basics of the tech they own. It is their fault. Tech isn't hard on any level.
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While I don't disagree with you, some people are more technologically inclined than others. I do agree that people are lazy. Although I seldom read them, everything comes with a manual. It's not like the early days of command line interfaces, everything is very simple now. Apple caters to the "I don't want to read, I just want to turn it on and use it" crowd.
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http://www.slashgear.com/htc-bypasses-apple-patent-ire-for-2012-android-range-27167647/
Whether HTC shares this or not someone should get a patent on the new way found to avoid a run up of this. As much as I like the apple products they are becoming a bully which is just sad.
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Whether HTC shares this or not someone should get a patent on the new way found to avoid a run up of this. As much as I like the apple products they are becoming a bully which is just sad.
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Becoming? They have quite the long track record of bully status and general douchebaggery.
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Becoming? They have quite the long track record of bully status and general douchebaggery.
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This. It's just that up until recently they were neither big enough nor relevant enough to matter. Jobs is just being jobs as always... Unfortunately now he has the money and influence to be more than a just a sideshow to the technology industry... A zany footnote in computer history..... Now he's just acting like an extremely selfish only child.
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This. It's just that up until recently they were neither big enough nor relevant enough to matter. Jobs is just being jobs as always... Unfortunately now he has the money and influence to be more than a just a sideshow to the technology industry... A zany footnote in computer history..... Now he's just acting like an extremely selfish only child.
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Considering Apple, Inc. was on the verge of folding just a few short years ago, I'm really surprised by the turn that Apple's made.
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Every company forgets where they were and how far they've come. Take HTC as an example; they just about did it. They went from a company that embraced the developers and then, in a few short years, turned around and locked down their bootloaders.
Without social media outlets such as facebook, I highly doubt they would have reversed their decision to maintain locked bootloaders.
Apple needs the same kind of treatment to be reminded that the mass majority of users out there do not support their products (Android phones are outselling the iPhone, Android tablets have eaten into almost a third of the iPad market, and Macs still don't have nearly the same level of market penetration into the desktop/laptop sectors).
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Apple needs the same kind of treatment to be reminded that the mass majority of users out there do not support their products .
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Uhh, yeah. Good luck with that. While I agree whole heartedly apple fans are nowhere near as brand agnostic as, well, anyone else. Drank the koolaide, etc etc etc.
In a recent poll of 4000 consumers 35% said they wanted an iphone 5, even knowing nothing about it.
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Every company forgets where they were and how far they've come. Take HTC as an example; they just about did it. They went from a company that embraced the developers and then, in a few short years, turned around and locked down their bootloaders.
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What do you mean, "just about did it." A-holes still haven't unlocked jack sh....
http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/14/hackers-crack-siri-to-work-on-any-device/
Just seen this, would be great to see this on the 3D, then what could a iphone owner say .... nothing!
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http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/14/hackers-crack-siri-to-work-on-any-device/
Just seen this, would be great to see this on the 3D, then what could a iphone owner say .... nothing!
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iPhone owners already can say nothing. Their cloud "innovation"... we've had that via Google for years. Siri... we've had that for a while too. Search the market for Jeannie (AKA Voice Actions). I put Voice Actions up against Siri the other day at lunch and Siri got literally every question borked. Voice Actions on Android did much better. We asked Siri "What are the nine planets". It said, "I found six planets... the closest is 2.2 miles from you." I hope not! We asked Voice Actions the same thing and it came up with a picture of the solar system plus a description of the planets. Other questions went similarly. The iPhone junkies at the table were REALLY impressed when I asked Voice Actions "Show me some boobies". Then I showed them the results and said, "Try THAT on your iPhone!"
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iPhone owners already can say nothing. Their cloud "innovation"... we've had that via Google for years. Siri... we've had that for a while too. Search the market for Jeannie (AKA Voice Actions). I put Voice Actions up against Siri the other day at lunch and Siri got literally every question borked. Voice Actions on Android did much better. We asked Siri "What are the nine planets". It said, "I found six planets... the closest is 2.2 miles from you." I hope not! We asked Voice Actions the same thing and it came up with a picture of the solar system plus a description of the planets. Other questions went similarly. The iPhone junkies at the table were REALLY impressed when I asked Voice Actions "Show me some boobies". Then I showed them the results and said, "Try THAT on your iPhone!"
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Lol brilliant
I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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hate builds brand loyalty.
jgalan14 said:
I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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You must not talk to too many Apple fanboys. All day long, they talk about how their phone is superior to any other. I laugh when my co-workers literally say their iPhones are better than my EVO 3D.
eXplicit815 said:
You must not talk to too many Apple fanboys. All day long, they talk about how their phone is superior to any other. I laugh when my co-workers literally say their iPhones are better than my EVO 3D.
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God my company issues iPhones as a company phones (mostly to Execs and ITs) and they brag so much about their iPhone that I die a little inside each day. Something about that Apple brand that makes them believe they are top hip elitist. I don't hate Apple, I hate the people who worship it
jgalan14 said:
I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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Hrmm, I think part of it on anyone other than Apple's OS definitely has to do with Apple becoming what they advertised against. The breakout Apple commercial was that woman coming and throwing a sledgehammer at Big Brother - one way of doing things, one computer, one order.
They became that - they advertise artistic and non-conformist and people line up and say "I'm so different" as they purchase something they can't make a change to without jail breaking the OS.
Last I checked, if you want to develop for iOS you have to pay to play. I may be off on that as it has been a while since I checked.
Apple shooting lawsuits left and right for "stolen innovations" such as "slide to wake up" have not been engendering kindness.
The marketing and legal departments have been fueling the dislike, and posers who get phones for a status symbol.
There's a long and well documented lead in to the hate, and in the end it works extremely well to line various company's coffers.
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Hrmm, I think part of it on anyone other than Apple's OS definitely has to do with Apple becoming what they advertised against. The breakout Apple commercial was that woman coming and throwing a sledgehammer at Big Brother - one way of doing things, one computer, one order.
They became that - they advertise artistic and non-conformist and people line up and say "I'm so different" as they purchase something they can't make a change to without jail breaking the OS.
Last I checked, if you want to develop for iOS you have to pay to play. I may be off on that as it has been a while since I checked.
Apple shooting lawsuits left and right for "stolen innovations" such as "slide to wake up" have not been engendering kindness.
The marketing and legal departments have been fueling the dislike, and posers who get phones for a status symbol.
There's a long and well documented lead in to the hate, and in the end it works extremely well to line various company's coffers.
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And yet, they sell more and more phones everyday. I loathe the company itself. I like their products. Don't get me wrong, the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch are GREAT devices, but they're not Android. And they're not even close, IMO. I have an iPad issued to me from work. The only thing I use it for is to read, watch movies (that I get outside of iTunes), and listen to music (Pandora/Shoutcast/Music I download outside of iTunes).
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And yet, they sell more and more phones everyday. I loathe the company itself. I like their products. Don't get me wrong, the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch are GREAT devices, but they're not Android. And they're not even close, IMO. I have an iPad issued to me from work. The only thing I use it for is to read, watch movies (that I get outside of iTunes), and listen to music (Pandora/Shoutcast/Music I download outside of iTunes).
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I think there's also some sort inherent disconnect between camps.
Apple people think they have the greatest device because it looks pretty.
Android people think they have the greatest device because the hardware is faster and you can make it look pretty.
Apple people think that if you have to work to make your device look and perform awesome that it's you who is making it awesome, not the product. (IE you win Android fail)
Android people think that if you can't make it look and perform like you want then you're a moron or the phone is crap.
It's sort of like a broken down 57 Chevy. An Apple lover looks and sees rust and decay, and Android user sees potential - HTC didn't make Sense awesome, but I can.
It all gets worse when you have people on both sides who don't want to learn anything and believe their respective marketing departments.
Any interest in this or shall we keep debating Apples to Orang-uh hum! Droids?
my dislike for the company is in the fact they spout innovation yet they are always a year behind the rest. hell look windows 7 phone has 4g now where is it for the almighty iphone? They spout innovation on their new ios and android has already had it on of their phones for a year. and the masses to dumb to realize they are paying extra money for a phone that is at least a year behind the curve. And yet the iphone fan boys think their phone is the best then i ask what makes it better then i pull out my evo 3d and im like had that since.... and had that since..... their ignorance drives me up the wall
I know still off topic but when is Google going to throw a lawsuit in apples face for the ios5 notification pulldown menu? Innovation my ass
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bailz2506 said:
I know still off topic but when is Google going to throw a lawsuit in apples face for the ios5 notification pulldown menu? Innovation my ass
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they cant due to the fact android is open source i believe
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they cant due to the fact android is open source i believe
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I'm more interested with the fact apple got issued that patent for the basic slide unlock. Didn't Google have this out first? Didn't think apple could patent stuff Google had already releases open source wise.
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Well I see in a different way, sure iPhone 4s looks outdated because it doesn't have lte or WiMAX, in my experience lte is really nice too bad it has more lost signal then 3G and WiMAX is ok but man does it suck, I used 4G on my OG evo for a few months and stop using it , it just sucks I prefer 3G also in battery life 4G sucks at that right now, they need to come out with a new battery tech or wtv, I have an iPhone 4S, evo 3d, nexus s (tmobile) and my old 3GS and after playing with them I prefer both, i do prefer an iPad instead of android tablet but that might because of the apps, is nice to read books on my iPad or watch YouTube, and some apps for work , if android tablets would have a nice spreadsheets app and maybe some better apps ill probably go for it, but maybe another 6 months before that, the new asus table (quad core) looks nice but will see
I love android far more than I love Apple, but I have to admit that apple was the innovation that started the smartphone race. Even though I believe Android is much better that Apple now, I believe there wouldn't be Android if it wasn't for Apple. Flame me if you want...
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I love android far more than I love Apple, but I have to admit that apple was the innovation that started the smartphone race. Even though I believe Android is much better that Apple now, I believe there wouldn't be Android if it wasn't for Apple. Flame me if you want...
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Apple made the smartphone stylish. Treo made the smartphone useful. I was checking corporate email while apple was still ensuring cases expose their logo on the back.
If anyone started using siri other than apple, they will shut you down quicker than you can brag to your friends about it.
The andiod os was oringinally going to be the google os back in like 2004 but when things didnt work out and google saw that the iphone take off they applied it to smart phones
Looks like we will see less HTC products next year
(unless they can fix the infringements before April)
let's just hope the galaxy nexus gets here (to Sprint) before they ban Samsung products too...
Read more here or Google it
http://m.gizmodo.com/5869507/htc-android-phones-are-being-banned-from-the-us-next-year
Sounds like it will only effect the lower end phones. Only phones that run 1.6 - 2.2.
cruise350 said:
Sounds like it will only effect the lower end phones. Only phones that run 1.6 - 2.2.
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I'm not quite sure.... If you read past the first paragraph it mentions that Android itself is infringing some patent that Apple has for clickable links in text messages such as addresses and phone numbers. I don't know if this is applied for any version of Android or just HTC and android or any vendor and Android.....
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I'm not quite sure.... If you read past the first paragraph it mentions that Android itself is infringing some patent that Apple has for clickable links in text messages such as addresses and phone numbers. I don't know if this is applied for any version of Android or just HTC and android or any vendor and Android.....
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From what I seen its the feature that allows you to click on phone numbers/links from emails or websites
Seems like apple invented hyperlinks?
And yes I read on another site that's it applied to all phones that use android as its main OS ill try to find the link I think its engadget.com
Apple just used older Android versions as examples that HTC/Google has been using these features since apple first did
Patent wars are getting out of hand
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Hmmm, why can't they just settle for something simple? I mean come on, all these patents that are being sued over are ridiculous. :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
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Hmmm, why can't they just settle for something simple? I mean come on, all these patents that are being sued over are ridiculous. :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
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All apples Patents that HTC is accused of infringement are obsolete and apply to almost any new products being realeased that involves wireless technology all the way to a touch screen... maybe 7 years ago these all would have been a legitimate case...
there are numerous patents held for almost everything that can be patented. If patents in these areas are going to allowed, they need to be controlled at the patent offices, which they are not
I think after years of technology development, there should be standard stuff that should be available to everyone...like hyperlinks.
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I think after years of technology development, there should be standard stuff that should be available to everyone...like hyperlinks.
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Right... It's outrageous. Wish there was something we could do about it.
After all, It's too late for Jobs to go through thermonuclear war. Just saying.
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God I hate apple, but I still love you Ipad.
heathmcabee said:
God I hate apple, but I still love you Ipad.
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LOL i hated my ipad 2. Tried my best to like it until i sold it. The thing that sucks for me is that if this slows production a little for android I still wont buy an Iphone lol
Man..I love android, but the ipad2 is amazing. That thing screams and can do about anything.
Android still has quirks and lots of imperfections
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Kind of a slap in the face to apple which is always worth a smile:
http://m.engadget.com/2012/07/20/go...-focused-email-app-maker/?icid=eng_latest_art
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Awesome!
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. Ok, so to make this seem like it is actually an important piece of news can anybody actually give any statistics showing that this was an item widely used and loved by people? I'm a clown, I know nothing about it. If you say google hired tim cook away from apple that means something to me. Google only paid 25 million for this outfit does that mean it sucks or will any of us android users benefit from this? Sorry to come off stupid but i am. Give me a little knowledge please and thank you.
Sparrow is loved by many people because although it can be used for multiple email services, it specializes and really shines with GMail. In fact, having used it, I can say it's almost better looking and more functional than our own Android GMail app. The desktop app for OS X (which I played with on my brother's Air) is fantastic, and I sorely wish we had something similar on Windows. Thunderbird just isn't what I want.
That being said, I don't know how this is a "slap in the face to Apple". The Sparrow team specifically said they're not dropping the app at all, and it will continue to receive support. If this makes you giggle, I guess you laugh very easily then...
True that they'll still support Apple, but would it be safe to say that Google won't want them supporting it as much as usual? I would think their attention will be elsewhere typically.
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Sparrow is loved by many people because although it can be used for multiple email services, it specializes and really shines with GMail. In fact, having used it, I can say it's almost better looking and more functional than our own Android GMail app. The desktop app for OS X (which I played with on my brother's Air) is fantastic, and I sorely wish we had something similar on Windows. Thunderbird just isn't what I want.
That being said, I don't know how this is a "slap in the face to Apple". The Sparrow team specifically said they're not dropping the app at all, and it will continue to receive support. If this makes you giggle, I guess you laugh very easily then...
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Anything that directly or indirectly affects apple in their gloat train does make me laugh. For google to purchase a company that up until today only supported apple, makes it a good day. True they'll still support apple as google already does, but it takes yet another item away that apple can say is 'theirs' per say.
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Anything that directly or indirectly affects apple in their gloat train does make me laugh. For google to purchase a company that up until today only supported apple, makes it a good day. True they'll still support apple as google already does, but it takes yet another item away that apple can say is 'theirs' per say.
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I am unsure what you mean by "gloat train", and I'm not sure I agree with your opinion about "taking away an item", but that of course is your opinion.
mbaseball3 said:
Anything that directly or indirectly affects apple in their gloat train does make me laugh. For google to purchase a company that up until today only supported apple, makes it a good day. True they'll still support apple as google already does, but it takes yet another item away that apple can say is 'theirs' per say.
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lol I can hear the same iOS fanboys that groaned about android getting instagram groaning again.
And in a few a mod comes & shuts down another perfectly good thread. That stuff is getting really annoying
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KaoMinerva said:
And in a few a mod comes & shuts down another perfectly good thread. That stuff is getting really annoying
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Sorry you feel that way. Threads get shut down when they get out of hand, you know, flaming, trolling, etc. So if this one can stay civil, then it will remain open.
"Google has struggled with its Gmail app for iOS. The company likely brought the Sparrow team in to help improve its Gmail experience on iOS and Mac, as well as potentially Android and PCs" This is a quote from mashable. So in reality It seems they are trying to make google and mac work better together. There could be no better outcome than that.
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Sorry you feel that way. Threads get shut down when they get out of hand, you know, flaming, trolling, etc. So if this one can stay civil, then it will remain open.
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Most of the debates I'm the Apple threads are entertaining & educational. I learn a lot from reading threads & replies here, but every time a mod shuts down all the fun. A heated debate won't kill nobody
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So our Gmail app is getting a face lift. Sounds good! Hopefully in the long run they will stop supporting apple. Long shot though.
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huludical said:
So our Gmail app is getting a face lift. Sounds good! Hopefully in the long run they will stop supporting apple. Long shot though.
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So this program will work better or have more features when they stop supporting apple? Please explain?
woody296 said:
So this program will work better or have more features when they stop supporting apple? Please explain?
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Naw man. I just don't like apple lol. I know that you and liquidsolistice don't have a problem with apple and that's cool. You guys make it known every thread that has anything to do with apple.
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huludical said:
Naw man. I just don't like apple lol. I know that you and liquidsolistice don't have a problem with apple and that's cool. You guys make it known every thread that has anything to do with apple.
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I know, i cant' help myself. I keep seeing people panicking over things that will probably mean nothing and it drives me nuts. Mark my words all this patent crap, etc will turn out to be nothing when it's over. One side will win for a while, and the other, it's the old unstoppable force meets an immovable object.
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I know, i cant' help myself. I keep seeing people panicking over things that will probably mean nothing and it drives me nuts. Mark my words all this patent crap, etc will turn out to be nothing when it's over. One side will win for a while, and the other, it's the old unstoppable force meets an immovable object.
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Yeah. I will continue to panick
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KaoMinerva said:
Most of the debates I'm the Apple threads are entertaining & educational. I learn a lot from reading threads & replies here, but every time a mod shuts down all the fun. A heated debate won't kill nobody
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While true, like V said, if the threads didnt have flamming/trolling and profanity going back and forth, they would stay open every time, no question...
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LiquidSolstice said:
Sparrow is loved by many people because although it can be used for multiple email services, it specializes and really shines with GMail. In fact, having used it, I can say it's almost better looking and more functional than our own Android GMail app. The desktop app for OS X (which I played with on my brother's Air) is fantastic, and I sorely wish we had something similar on Windows. Thunderbird just isn't what I want.
That being said, I don't know how this is a "slap in the face to Apple". The Sparrow team specifically said they're not dropping the app at all, and it will continue to receive support. If this makes you giggle, I guess you laugh very easily then...
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I was on Appadvice today and they were basically having a "wake" for the Sparrow iOS app. The question that comes to mind is... "What about Chomp?" It was an app that help you when shopping for an app in the overcrowded Google Play Store but once Apple bought it...Poof! Gone!
Google's mobile branch makes most of its money thru Apple and Mac users. So, unless there is a google boycott from Apple causing a dip in the red, why would google stop supporting them?
Maybe got a little too ahead of myself. Just makes little sense for google to acquire Sparrow and have them continue to support Apple. That is until u know the details of what Sparrow makes and why Google acquired them. Not sure why Apple would mind Google sponsoring development of the gmail app for Mac.
If there is something I'm missing please let me know before calling me names, but shouldn't Apple be giggling?
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Seeing how samsung stock is plummeting and the overall affect this could have on the android operating system, I feel this is relevant. Mods close if you disagree.
My issue is this. Most of the tech mags im reading are not covering the glaring mistakes made by the jury. There seems to be a finality to the court decision in the news. "See we knew all along apple was being copied and this is what it will mean in the future". Personally I feel this will be overturned. I'm going to site a source from Gizmodo which also sites the Verge as one of their sources.
This is a good read. Please weigh in. Please be mature. And anyone with legal experience please lay your expertise on us.
The mistakes made by the jury are down right embarressing. And their desire to talk to the media is just making it worse for them.
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Over turned as well here. If not then Moto will win their suit against Apple hands down. Personally, they should just end the madness
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fpineda101 said:
Over turned as well here. If not then Moto will win their suit against Apple hands down. Personally, they should just end the madness
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I think it would need to go to the supreme court to really make a difference in the us
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Whatever the outcome, I hope this starts pushing manufacturers to just put AOSP ROMs on our phones--all Nexus, all the time.
Apple is only adding to its demise as a company and a staus symbol. Personally i feel that all this court time they're using is a waste of tax payers money and time. What happened to the law about monopolies in the US im pretty sure thats what apple is trying to become. Is there no such thing as being better because you are not because you own a patent. Imagine what it would be like if sports and car manufacturers were like this. What do we just turn our cheek since its an american company and they're going against foreigners. I say the legal system needs to say f u apple step up your game so u can compete instead of being a ***** and running to mommy because some asshole at school took your lunch money.
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Whatever the outcome, I hope this starts pushing manufacturers to just put AOSP ROMs on our phones--all Nexus, all the time.
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That's what I'm hoping for too. But Apple's vendetta is against android in general, so I'm sure they'll find something to sue over...and there's still the hardware to consider. If Apple truly owns "rectangles with rounded corners", it'll be interesting to see what kind of form factors we'll be looking at in the future.
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Software patent law in the U.S. is broken, and hurts the consumer - If you haven't already, consider signing the online petition for reform that's going around:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853215
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Software patent law in the U.S. is broken, and hurts the consumer - If you haven't already, consider signing the online petition for reform that's going around:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853215
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I hope that does some good. For the short term Samsung needs to appeal.
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I think android as a whole i.e. google, htc, sammy, moto, and the low low end companies need to unite and fight apple and there bs patents as a whole and not one by one because it will be ruled in favor of apple everytime because they got home turf advantage. No american is going to rule against an american owned american built american ran company in america. That would go against everything we as americans have been taught and what we believe in. And 90% of americans for whatever reason are blind to the fact that america dont produce a third of whats built and made in america. Hell my ford was assembled and built in canada my chevy was in mexico oh and the kicker is my stryker (the 8 wheeled armor vehicle the army uses) was manufactured built and thought up in canada the company is just based in america. So if our military is going to go outside the US for weapons and vehicles then we should be happy and willing to do the same for our cell phones and other electronics and at least not be biased when it comes down to it in a courtroom setting.
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All this is very upsetting to me .I don't like where this is going..and if something doesn't change the cell phone world may be in for some drastic changes... and I want my HTC s4 pro adreno 320 2gb DDR 3 ram and 4.7 HD display aosp phone... and i don't want apple ruining it
Despite being a dot net developer I've stuck with android because it can do more. If Google somehow loses ill go windows phone for sure cause I already know how to make apps for it.
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fpineda101 said:
Despite being a dot net developer I've stuck with android because it can do more. If Google somehow loses ill go windows phone for sure cause I already know how to make apps for it.
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Android is the clear leader now. I wouldn't worry
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fernando sor said:
Android is the clear leader now. I wouldn't worry
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+1 its so obvious from apples actions that android is top dog and apples trying everything it can to level the playing field. They can feel the walls slowly closing in and the lights getting dimmer for their reign as a technological giant and all they can do is claw and scratch at the dirt walls of the hole they dug themselves into. I for one find it amusing that they have to resort to this level of pediness (sp?) And just all together humiliating tactics that theyre trying to use.
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must be overturned but we have seen stranger things.
From reading the article it seems the jurors didn't have the knowledge or maybe the willingness to preside over this case. I'm going out on a limb here but wasn't Samsung supposed to be judged by a jury of it's peers. Obviously the jury couldn't consist of electronic companies but it should have been made of people that work in that field or people with specific educations. Juries in trials like this shouldn't be picked from the general masses.
Also is it possible for Samsung to get a fair trial in the U.S
Its not possible for any foreign company to get a fair trial in the US were way to biased for that. Plus were in a recession so we need american jobs to stay in america and go to americans. Honestly its all politics and whoever has the bigger wallet wins the case or at least can get a decision of what they want. The legal system in this country is so far in the ****ter that it would take a total revamp of it to get it to be 5% better than it is now. 2 cases i can think of off top of head that prove this: the oj trial (what a joke) and the jon bennet incident granted these cases are old as hell and some people reading are say wtf are you talking about it still proves my point. **** even if you take a look at big business cases martha stewart goes to jail for alleged insider trading where as the top people in charge of enron walk freely with their pockets stuffed to the max. And citizens wander whats wrong with the country and how did we end up in the economic state were in now. End rant.
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neoshi said:
Whatever the outcome, I hope this starts pushing manufacturers to just put AOSP ROMs on our phones--all Nexus, all the time.
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That would just make android more like apple. The point of android is choice, if all of our phones ran the exact same software and ui where's the choice? You would have to root your phone just to get something different. Which isn't a big deal to me because all of my phones have been rooted, but others like to be able to choose a different ui just by picking different phones by different manufacturers.
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wileout said:
+1 its so obvious from apples actions that android is top dog and apples trying everything it can to level the playing field. They can feel the walls slowly closing in and the lights getting dimmer for their reign as a technological giant and all they can do is claw and scratch at the dirt walls of the hole they dug themselves into. I for one find it amusing that they have to resort to this level of pediness (sp?) And just all together humiliating tactics that theyre trying to use.
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Pettiness.
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Pettiness.
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Thanks man i knew someone would fix lol
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No problem, I'm anal about that stuff, haha. It's my inner-teacher.
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700 question complaint and they take all of 22 hours to reach a verdict. Even patent experts would need more time to review. Apple's own lawyers weren't prepared for such a quick verdict
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