Well, the title says it all. Which one is your personal favorite at the moment?
I am using the SiyahKernel, prefer this over stock although haven't tried Franco kernel yet.
Try them all and make up your own mind.
Any answer is really worthless and all subjective.
Nearly all users have different requirements and habits. Same could be said for ROMs.
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exactly, it comletely depends upon your choice and opinion. You can always read the feedback on those threads and decide whatever you want.
Just want to up the topic.
Sure everyone has his own opinion. But nobody tried to prepare some comparison between these two kernels.
Siyah has features like auto-root, overclocking, undervolting, insecure adb, init.d support, triangle-away app support, automatic EFS backup, ExFAT support, NTFS automounting for USB sticks…
I've tried to use Franco Kernel Updater - but there are very few options to tweak in comparison with ExTweaks for Siyah. Sure one enjoys terminal and changing files for tweaking kernel - but me not.
The only advantage of Franco as I see - full support of Supercurio Voodoo Sound - with partial one for Siyah. But I cannot state everybody are happy with that - just read this post.
Sure it is very personal opinion but I'd like to see some other pros'n'cons.
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Thank you, have a good day! XD
I'm running the ios 6 kernel on my gs3.. that thing is butter. By far the best kernel..
Please read the stickies. Best kernel threads are not allowed.. thread closed
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I've been browsing the development threads for weeks now and the more I read the more confused I get regarding which Kernel to use on my GS2 (XXKG2). I guess like everybody I'd like the best combination between maximum speed, battery durability and safety.
At the moment I'm using stock with CPU Master.
Any thoughts?
Hm, tough thing to answer.
Chainfire root- The simplest one out there. Keeps the kernel close to Stock.
Ninphetamine- Supports BLN, Overclocking, Voltage Tweaks etc.
There are few others too, but as I haven't tried them won't comment. Any kernel can be used with Stock firmware. Can't say about Custom firmwares as I am not interested.
Regards.
[KERNEL] SpeedMod SGS2 [K1-T27 CWM4 CIFS ROOT]
Forget about Ninphetamine unless you want to overclock.
neophyte's mirage kernel is also good for batt life. it has finer tweak settings for voltages as compared to other kernels.
I've tried them all ninpo kernel and speedmod are two of the best. Currently using the tweaked speedmod by rage which allows undervolting. Ninpo kernel gives excellent standby idle rate.
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I like speedmod because i dont bother about BLN or overclocking. (1.2 GHz not good enough for you? ) And i find the governer to be more aggressive and stable on speedmod. It spends more time on the lower frequencies too, saving more battery.
I'm trying the speedmod kernel but even though the benchmark is higher it doesn't seem as fast as the original XXKG2. For instance, I'm using "Photo Wall live wallpaper" and whenever I wake up the phone it takes like a second to refresh and load the photos...this didn't happen with XXKG2 (it was instantaneous).
What is a faster but still stable kernel alternative?
You could ask a 100 people and get 100 different answers.
The kernel that is best for you is the one you try and like the best. Just because one person likes a kernel doesn't mean you will as you've already found out.
Man up, do some downloading and find out for yourself.
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You could ask a 100 people and get 100 different answers.
The kernel that is best for you is the one you try and like the best. Just because one person likes a kernel doesn't mean you will as you've already found out.
Man up, do some downloading and find out for yourself.
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How helpful. I think you might just have been Ghandi in a different life.
There is a reason why I've posted this in the Q&A instead of in the development section where I would probably get an answer like yours.
I don't take chances with a 600us$ phone and won't be installing all available kernels when I can get advice here first (the reason forums like this actually exists and the reason why I love them...well, most of the time).
Photos live wallpaper etc would be more of a rom thing, than a kernel thing.
As far as best or what have you kernel, there is no best, i find ninphetamine to be good, you may not, and this might just end up turning into another thread of generic repetition and general uselessness.
The best way is to try them, as the person above said.
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I am using KG6 with ninpheghamine 2.1.3 and quick and giving me almost two days of battery life but again maybe other kernels out there are better. You can try other ones and compare.
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How helpful. I think you might just have been Ghandi in a different life.
There is a reason why I've posted this in the Q&A instead of in the development section where I would probably get an answer like yours.
I don't take chances with a 600us$ phone and won't be installing all available kernels when I can get advice here first (the reason forums like this actually exists and the reason why I love them...well, most of the time).
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Christ on a bike. You do understand what you are getting into when you start dicking around with your phone and custom kernels don't you? You don't take chances with a 600 dollar phone - I'm afraid you are doing, everytime you install any custom rom or custom kernel. However there is no more risk in installing one custom kernel than another custom kernel (when they are out of beta anyway), but what people prefer is massively subjective! Theres no such thing as "the most balanced kernel" because people have differing views on which kernel offers this for them.
If your not sure about a kernel why not read the thread for that kernel and see what feedback its got. If you open a thread like this you'll get a ton of differing answers as you've seen already and its not going to keep you happy.
Sorry if you don't find my advice helpful, but I've managed to find the ROM I like and the kernel I like by TRYING them. Neither of which have been mentioned in this thread by the way, but I'm not going to say its best for you, because you likely use your phone for different scenarios than me.
If your going to step into the brave world of custom kernels, rooting, roms, themes, mods etc the best thing you can do - and I say this genuinely, and meaning to be helpful - is to read up on said things and try the ones you like the sound of and you trust to be safe.
veyka said:
Photos live wallpaper etc would be more of a rom thing, than a kernel thing.
As far as best or what have you kernel, there is no best, i find ninphetamine to be good, you may not, and this might just end up turning into another thread of generic repetition and general uselessness.
The best way is to try them, as the person above said.
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Thanks. I've been reading good things about ninphetamine. I will give it a try.
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Photos live wallpaper etc would be more of a rom thing, than a kernel thing.
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Couldn't this be GPU related? Do you think apps like Chainfire3D or Overclocking free (GPU/CPU) would fix it?
Hello everyone.
I am running Pure ICS 7.2 Rom and like it very much.
Now i'm in need of finding the most suitable kernel that does not differ alot from stock kernel.
It does not need alot of functionality.
I just want it to be very stable, fast and light..
So no need for 100 of features im not going to need anyways.
The only feature I currently need is the BLN mod.
All the kernels support this, but in the mean time they support 100 of other things, which leads me to the conclusion, the kernel becomes bloated.
Can someone recommend me the most lightweight/fast/stable kernel.
May i remind you, I dont need overclock,underclock,governors,scheudlers etc etc.. I just want to leave it as is!!!!
NEAK kernel says
"The lightest kernel for I9100 ever made!!"
But I find that hard to believe if one looks at the feature list.. It is HUGE!!!!
Thanks in advance
Try neak,its fast and light.im currently using it
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neak is good but give a try to siyah too all depends the way u use it an ull get ur results as which kernel is good for u.no one will tell tht a perticular kernel is the no 1...we all experiment an thts the way it is......cheeerz
Tried a few liking Neat Rom stock and rooted and if you want the ICS look just add ICS Domination 4.1
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Tried a few liking Neat Rom stock and rooted and if you want the ICS look just add ICS Domination 4.1
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please read before posting - or try understand the difference between a kernel and rom...
@op the only way to find out is test them yourself - recommended with BLN, would be neak or siyah obviously
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Please guys be more precise and read the first post again!!!
I know I can just try different kernels as the first few posts suggest.
But c'mon guys why reinvent the wheel with kernels as well?
I know its a good idea to try different ROMS, and I give the same advice to others, and I have already tried my share of ROMS.
But its just plain stupid doing the same with kernels as well.
In the siyah forum post, some people complain about random restarts etc. The kernel motto is "One kernel to rule them all"..
I DONT NEED SO POWERFULL KERNEL!
I dont need 100 features, 100 governors, support for CM9 and all its functionality etc. etc.. I just want to install and go.
Dont want to play around with scheudlers, governors, OC/UC etc. etc..
You guys catch my drift?
I have very specific demands which I stated in the first post.
I didn't just ask "Which kernel should I use..."
Therefore please only post something, if you have something usefull to say. Not just try NEAK kernel! And why exactly should i try NEAK kernel?
In that forum, people complain about lagging issues etc..
I DONT NEED THAT!
I need a kernel I can flash and forget! Dont want to visit XDA every 2 days to check for updates to the kernel!
Exactly like stock kernels and ROMS. They are only updated maybe once every 6 months or so, because they are stable, and dont crash too often!
I need to have the same experience with the kernel!
well mate, to be honest with ya ICS kernels still obviously aren't 100% stable as sources have only been released for a short period... it obviously sounds like you want a stock Kernel or a kernel similar to SpeedMod, but guess what? they don't have BLN which you stated you wanted. Both Neak and siyah do, and are decent choices, some people prefer one over the other, there is no one better choice, definitely at this current stage in ICS development - so choose one this is why people are saying test one and see for yourself; otherwise move back to gb if you really need BLN and complete stability.
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Thanks man for your honest post
Coming from HTC Desire, I was kind of shocked Samsung omitted the notification led ( why o'why would they do that )
And off course all the reviews of SGS2 were praising the phone so much, they didn't state the obvious con of not including this led
Why don't you stay with the cf root kernel until the other kernels get a stable version?
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Thanks man for your honest post
Coming from HTC Desire, I was kind of shocked Samsung omitted the notification led ( why o'why would they do that )
And off course all the reviews of SGS2 were praising the phone so much, they didn't state the obvious con of not including this led
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I know what you mean! I had a galaxy s2, however was stolen and found a HTC Desire cheap, so used that for a while, loved the led notification light! However couldn't overlook the fact of the speed of the galaxy s2 and finding one cheap shortly after (thanks ebay!), I reverted back to the s2; one thing its missing is the led, for sure! Though while we do have BLN, it does affect the battery life so isn't really ideal. Though back on topic, if we wait a month I believe we will have stable, fast kernels (whilst also having BLN of course ) , which will shred gb and the custom kernels we had for that.
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I apologize in advance if this has been covered somewhere, some quick XDA and google searches returned nothing, and the stickies don't seem to cover it either.
I stayed completely stock until ICS roms started being released, and all I currently have is a working knowledge of how to go about safely rooting and flashing ROMs, kernels, and modems (obtained by reading stickies). With that in mind, can anyone explain what do all the features associated with these new ICS kernels mean? I read the changelogs and everything goes over my head. Even the changelogs for the Gingerbread kernels are beyond me.
If there is a pre-existing thread/post where I can find this information, kindly direct me and I'll read it (and probably come back with more questions). Otherwise, please help a noob understand what it all means, so that I can make an informed decision about which kernel I want to flash.
....Yeah, I'm kinda asking to be spoonfed. Sorry
Well I'll answer what I can, I am by no means an expert.
The Changelogs for a Kernel contain a list of what was changed from one version to the next. Sometimes they are simple [-added code to stop phone from blowing up], sometimes more complex [-merged something I don't understand into something else I don't understand]. The rule of thumb I use for Kernels is what gives the best performance for the battery/stability?
Siyah's Kernels have a unique dual boot option, are very stable and give great battery life, with good performance.
The NEAK Kernel, has outstanding performance, great battery life and seems rock solid.
Entropy's Kernels give good performance, great battery life, and are bulletproof in stability.
As it's so easy to change from one Kernel to another, play with them. If you don't like one, feel free to change to another. (just make sure you use a Kernel cleaner script before doing so).
As for a good post to read, XDA is filled with them, but I cannot think of an 'all in one' post to go read. What I know I have gleaned over spending hours reading, every day.
Modems are similar, in that some work better in some area's than others. Navigate with your phone's browser to www.speakeasy.net/speedtest and test them. There is even a post here with maps that give an idea of what Modem works best in a given location.
If you follow the instructions, flashing Kernels/Modems on this phone is crazy easy and little risk. Sorry I cannot point you to an all in one post though. Perhaps some of the other guys here can link something more authoritative than what I have posted.
Good reading can be found in the following articles.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html
http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
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Well I'll answer what I can, I am by no means an expert.
The Changelogs for a Kernel contain a list of what was changed from one version to the next. Sometimes they are simple [-added code to stop phone from blowing up], sometimes more complex [-merged something I don't understand into something else I don't understand]. The rule of thumb I use for Kernels is what gives the best performance for the battery/stability?
Siyah's Kernels have a unique dual boot option, are very stable and give great battery life, with good performance.
The NEAK Kernel, has outstanding performance, great battery life and seems rock solid.
Entropy's Kernels give good performance, great battery life, and are bulletproof in stability.
As it's so easy to change from one Kernel to another, play with them. If you don't like one, feel free to change to another. (just make sure you use a Kernel cleaner script before doing so).
As for a good post to read, XDA is filled with them, but I cannot think of an 'all in one' post to go read. What I know I have gleaned over spending hours reading, every day.
Modems are similar, in that some work better in some area's than others. Navigate with your phone's browser to www.speakeasy.net/speedtest and test them. There is even a post here with maps that give an idea of what Modem works best in a given location.
If you follow the instructions, flashing Kernels/Modems on this phone is crazy easy and little risk. Sorry I cannot point you to an all in one post though. Perhaps some of the other guys here can link something more authoritative than what I have posted.
Good reading can be found in the following articles.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.0-highlights.html
http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
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Thanks for your help, I sincerely appreciate it
To be honest though, I kind of already knew most of what you posted I do know what a changelog actually is. I know that modems are location dependent and it's easy to flash between multiple ones (KH7 seems to work best for me). I knew that Siyah offers dual-booting, don't *really know* what Neak offers (but the thread and changelog seem to indicate high stability), and I know that of course, Entropy is freaking bulletproof (which is why I use his ). I guess I didn't truly know kernels are phone-dependent, but I had a sense given what I've heard about people having varying results with OC/UV.
Which brings me to my next point. I have a rough idea of what overclocking is, not so much with undervolting, but lucky for me that doesn't interest me. What does intrigue me and what I would like to know about are some of the other features that kernels can implement. Examples are:
-Init.d Support: What is this and what does it do?
-Entropy's Legacy Gingerbread hotplug code (including all tuning features from the final GB DD release): same questions
-Governors: Ondemand, LulzactiveV2(default), Performance, Conservative (module), Lazy (module). What's a governor?
-Schedulers: BFQv3-R2, Noop, SIO, VR (default). What's a scheduler? How's it different from a governor?
-Support for Voodoo Louder! is there a thread on this?
-CIFS, FUSE, CUSE Support (modules) more modules? are they the same as governors?
-Many other similar questions
Sorry for the bombard of questions, but I hope this thread eventually will prove useful to other noobs like myself.
-Init.d Support: What is this and what does it do? Read http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/04/get-to-know-linux-the-etcinitd-directory/
-Entropy's Legacy Gingerbread hotplug code (including all tuning features from the final GB DD release): same questions - Hot plugging answers can be found in the post below. It's got to do with turning on the 2nd processor core.
-Governors: Ondemand, LulzactiveV2(default), Performance, Conservative (module), Lazy (module). What's a governor?
Everything you ever wanted to know about Kernels can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
-Schedulers: BFQv3-R2, Noop, SIO, VR (default). What's a scheduler? How's it different from a governor? See link above
-Support for Voodoo Louder! is there a thread on this? - No clue, I'm old, to me Voodoo is a video card made my 3DFX.
-CIFS, FUSE, CUSE Support (modules) more modules? are they the same as governors? - See post above.
See if that answers your questions.
For some interesting reading, read the 2ndinit post found here, http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works
This is what allowed us to install custom ROMS on locked bootloader Motorola phones last year. Good stuff.
In fact the XDA post I linked I think was what you were initially looking for. I know I learned a lot lol.
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Even more posts/links http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23139337&postcount=2
Go to the bottom of the post, more information there. The OP is about NEAK settings (which is what I am using).
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Everything you ever wanted to know about Kernels can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
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This is exactly what I was looking for! I think I may have come across it before, but I probably ignored it since I didn't think there would be so many kernel options for our phone (that was before ICS source drop). The OP of that thread has another kernel related thread in his signature, dedicated to how ICS kernels are different, too.
I find it really useful knowledge. Perhaps this should be added to the sticky of reference links? What do you guys think, especially Red5 (if you see this)?
Anyway, THANK YOU WINK!
Before to make this a debate. I must say that this is all my personal opinions.
I wish you all to know that I have probably flashed all kinds of roms, SEEKING to find some kind of PERFECT rom, but you all know that we as humans will never get and accept something that is perfect, as perfect. (just love be4 she dumps you xD)
So continuing with this thread, I wish to share my experiences with you ALL <3 and hopefully answer all of your questions.
Stock CM9 KERNEL/ROM
Pros: The best one i have tried with almost never changing Battery life, I love it and always return to this bad guy after a bunch of roms with bad battery life. You must get this!
Cons: Little to none customization when it comes to governors.
Siyah x
Pros: considered as the best kernel for almost 78% of the XDA(not really, hehe), they like this because of the multiple governors and for being one of the best kernels with cero problems, always updating. Apart from it, it also supports 2nd rom in recovery, so its perfect.
Cons: as all other kernels, in order to get best battery life, you need to tweak them, change voltages, and it takes time, without changing anything from this kernel, the battery life goes to 90% from 100% with only 4 minutes.
Other kernels
Pros: you get to try new kernels...Woohooo!!!
Cons:just not as good as siyah kernels without customizing them.
So I hope you find this as a little entertainment for both, me and you, with love, bye!....
Seriously, what's the meaning of this thread?
How about a new comparison?
This thread VS this comment
This thread
PROS -
•Something to pass my time
•Keeps a mod busy when they come along and close it
CONS -
•Threads of this kind aren't allowed on XDA because a simple debate can easily get out of hand
•It's a pointless thread and wastes peoples time
This comment
PROS -
•It passes time
•It's kinda funny
•Makes me seem like an arse
CONS -
•None
I'm a product of the system I was born to destroy!
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Jokesy said:
Seriously, what's the meaning of this thread?
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It really was a nice topic... just letting people know how wonderful stock cm9 is.
Sorry if it didnt make any sense for you :/
Well I like rootbox with fluxi kernel.
Pros-I like it,nothing else matters
Cons-None
Lol
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Peace
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what is the suitable kernel with rootbox 4.2 ??
mahaseno said:
what is the suitable kernel with rootbox 4.2 ??
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I'm a fanatic ex RootBox user. To me, this question rather depends on personal preferences. There are no such thing as this kernel is better than that kernel because in my opinion, all items on XDA are treated the same respect. If you have to ask me, I'd stick to the stock kernel that came with RootBox itself as I think the developers developed their ROM to proper blend with the kernel they provided, just make sure they are compatible with each other.
Ever since bajee has left the development, I switched to NeatROM JB 4.1.2 Aroma (and never regreted once) since they are more active supports, updates, and mods for this ROM. It's very sad though RootBox has so much potentials to stay on my top ROM list.
You've gotta try to understand and satisfied with the kernel you choose for RootBox and the answer will come from yourself. People can make reviews, but that's all depends on how they use their phone. Same questions like battery life, etc. it's all depends. To me, the best combo is Apollo regular + NeatROM JB. Best battery life ever, you will be surprised looking at the battery graph.
Hope that helps.
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I'm a fanatic ex RootBox user. To me, this question rather depends on personal preferences. There are no such thing as this kernel is better than that kernel because in my opinion, all items on XDA are treated the same respect. If you have to ask me, I'd stick to the stock kernel that came with RootBox itself as I think the developers developed their ROM to proper blend with the kernel they provided, just make sure they are compatible with each other.
Ever since bajee has left the development, I switched to NeatROM JB 4.1.2 Aroma (and never regreted once) since they are more active supports, updates, and mods for this ROM. It's very sad though RootBox has so much potentials to stay on my top ROM list.
You've gotta try to understand and satisfied with the kernel you choose for RootBox and the answer will come from yourself. People can make reviews, but that's all depends on how they use their phone. Same questions like battery life, etc. it's all depends. To me, the best combo is Apollo regular + NeatROM JB. Best battery life ever, you will be surprised looking at the battery graph.
Hope that helps.
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great answer my dear
I am puzzled by the fact
This rom has many options that do not exist except in a few roms like PACROM...BAMROM..
But unfortunately ..RootBox has a bad battery performance
So ... I thought to use another kernel may solve the problem
i know that NeatRom has a great battery performance ..but i miss a lot of options in it
thx t u man :good:
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"Best" or "Recommend" ROM/kernel threads are not allowed on XDA.
Please test these things for yourself.
This is the only way you will get an unbiased opinion,and then, you can decide for yourself if it meets YOUR needs.
Don't forget to make a nandroid before you start.
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