My phone keeps changing back and forth from H+ to 3G - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Does anyone else have this problem or is this normal?
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it will only change to H+ when it is using data (depending on what ROM you are on). this is a feature that saves battery. If it keeps changing, your phone may be using data for apps or whatever.
Are you on the Stock gingerbread that came with the phone? need a little more info to really see if anything is wrong.

It will do this if you have background data and auto sync checked in your settings. Others will chime in and ask if your completely stock or what rom and kernel you're running.
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From what I have read, correct me if I'm wrong, this is due to custom ICS ROMs reporting you're data connection directly whereas stock GB wouldn't update as frequently.
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I have seen this with all rome that i have used, stock kk6, also i have tried aokp and mystic rom as well as shostock which i'm running now. It does not seem to have any effect on the data performance but i'm just curious if this is something anyone has seen before with this phone. I am on straight talk though if that means anything however I do have an iPhone which i use also so that phone displays 4g at all times.

Question has been answered in a post above. It changes when data is being transferred.

personally i think it uses the h+ to get data faster then drops to 3g to maintain also saves battery like they said its nothing to worry about its normal

mrdead72 said:
personally i think it uses the h+ to get data faster then drops to 3g to maintain also saves battery like they said its nothing to worry about its normal
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It is a battery thing but it will never use 3g for data unless there is no 4g network around. If our phones were on 4g all the time our battery would be dead in no time so it drops to 3g when its idle.
The actual ATTs roms keep the 4g symbol on constantly probably for marketing reasons. The switching between 3g/4g is how a rom really works, ATT just decided to hide it so they can look cooler with the "always on 4g" thing. That's my guess anyways.
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What? For saving battery?
Wouldnt that double the use of battery power because the radio keeps switching from 3G to H+? correct me if im wrong because i thought staying at a constant Connection(IE:3G or EDGE) would be better on battery instead of it switching constantly
saw this link and i took in consideration that the tip for locking onto 3G would help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234264

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[Q] internet running horrible! help please!

Im not exactly sure when it started but i just noticed it a few days ago. Im currently on hsdpa and my dl speed is 112kb!! That's BARELY faster than edge im not sure if its my rom but I just reflashed and updated this morning and nothing. It doesn't matter if its edge, 3g or hsdpa, the speeds never increase! The phone runs normal when connected to wifi tho. 7.5mbps ...not sure if it makes a difference but im on simple mobile
Im running axura 2.2.7.1
Baseband is t959uvka6
Kernal version is 2.6.32.9
Any help is greatly appreciated guys!
Some times there are problems with the cell towers that cause your problem.
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jayprime said:
Some times there are problems with the cell towers that cause your problem.
Fear the beard...
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Take a drive and see if signal improves. If it does then u know its your area. If not then you may have a bigger issue at hand.
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Dude definitely you are in a bad reception area cos I use simple mobile too and get a constant 3.5- 4 mbps..
Just in case make sure you are not data throttled.
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Data throttled? I've been in at least 6 or 7 different areas arouns central fl n everywhere I go its the same story. Maybe a hardware issue somehow? Phones never been dropped or anything though.
xxflyingarmbarxx said:
Data throttled? I've been in at least 6 or 7 different areas arouns central fl n everywhere I go its the same story. Maybe a hardware issue somehow? Phones never been dropped or anything though.
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Data throttled, meaning you have gone over your 5gb cap and tmo throttles your service. I don't think that is the issue though, as throttle speeds are way slower than Edge. I doubt it's a hardware issue too. I would flash a different ROM. Failing that, Odin to stock. If that still doesn't fix you, call tech support and if they can't help you, they'll replace your device for you.
a - data cap reached, call t-mobile and inquire
b - put your phone in flight mode, reboot, turn flight mode off... better?
I can vouch for axura 2.2.7.1 and I had INCREDIBLE d/load speeds with the newer modem.

H+/3g Delay

Im so pissed off at this phone. Supposed to be fast but my browsing experience sucks because of this delay between 3g/h+
Before I get flaimed I have read before, I tried fast dormancy off, I tried disabling H+ and putting 3g only but the same delay exists. I also tried putting the phone in wcdma mode so edge gets removed.
I don't know what to do, I came from an iphone 4 and although the pages load slower because of hardware I could actually see the data progress going and loading up, here my sgs2 just stands for 10 seconds doing nothing and then loads up the page fairly quick.
Sometimes it doesn't even load and says page could not be loaded even though I have the h+ icon on.
Now If anyone experiences this and has some sort of fix plz let me know.
Im running westcrip 9.6 with lph, and have had this issue in previous roms too.
My network is Claro Dominican republic
Thanks
I have a similar problem! In my case the phone suddenly switches from H to 3G, I don't know why, and then goes back to H. This happens while I'm using browser, generally when I activate data connection and I don't use anything, it remains on 3G
My problem is that sometimes the delay may be 2 seconds and its managable but then it can go up to 15 or not do anything at all.
Same problem, I thought it's ok, but if it's not, then how to manage your data, without any delays?
just in case for someone who might know how to fix your problem u should give them/us information about:
your rom
your kernel
your modem
rooted or not
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warrez said:
just in case for someone who might know how to fix your problem u should give them/us information about:
your rom
your kernel
your modem
rooted or not
ps. wrong section btw...
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carrier and location (country) would be good too.
EDIT: whoops, saw it's in the first post. Sorry.
Its normal to go from G to H+ when data is in use. As soon as the phone detects that it needs to access the network, it will achieve the H+ connection. Apparently it will kill the battery if its always on H+. This, I understand. But the part I do not understand is the delay from G to H+. I am not sure if its a carrier issue for most of us, or the phone itself. I am assuming its a carrier issue though as it has happened on every ROM or Modem I have tried from personal experience. Not sure about the OP. It does seem to take some time at times to get from G to H+ - upwards of 15 seconds or more. Also, if it can't get H+, it will not browse at all on 3G
blue265 said:
Its normal to go from G to H+ when data is in use. As soon as the phone detects that it needs to access the network, it will achieve the H+ connection. Apparently it will kill the battery if its always on H+. This, I understand. But the part I do not understand is the delay from G to H+. I am not sure if its a carrier issue for most of us, or the phone itself. I am assuming its a carrier issue though as it has happened on every ROM or Modem I have tried from personal experience. Not sure about the OP. It does seem to take some time at times to get from G to H+ - upwards of 15 seconds or more. Also, if it can't get H+, it will not browse at all on 3G
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I get the same issue with the 3G. It won't load anything on 3G connection but as soon as it switches to H or H+ it starts to load.
imlgl said:
I get the same issue with the 3G. It won't load anything on 3G connection but as soon as it switches to H or H+ it starts to load.
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Yep, same problem in Moscow. It's probably related to device, nor to carrier. Kinda odd.
imlgl said:
I get the same issue with the 3G. It won't load anything on 3G connection but as soon as it switches to H or H+ it starts to load.
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+1 for that..hate that...
So i guess there is no fix for this
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mcvigo said:
So i guess there is no fix for this
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I don't think so. Seems to be a device issue. I just took a look at my Blackberry Bold 9900 I use for work and it always has H+. It doesn't go to 3G and then to H+ like the SGS2 does. And when I browse on that, its always ready to go, no delay. Not sure why our SGS2 needs to handshake H+ everytime
In my case it seems to depend upon the modem I use. kL1 works really well, however when I trialed ICS it was really slow as described.
Also, far less related, as for the mention of browsing, I use Dolphin and find that it seems to be much slower at either DNS lookups or redirects or something.
It's most likely because of your carriers settings. There's nothing you can do unless you call them questions about what their policy is at their end on data connectivity.

Why is Edge faster than 3G or H+ (see edit)?

Ever since I've transferred to AT&T I've had laggy data issues. I finally rooted/flashed to AOKP, and while trying to address the issues of no APNs appearing or saving and no signal status in the status bar, I've come to find both AT&T and T-Mobile as Available Networks under some network setting. Am I chasing ghosts here, or is there something actually up?
EDIT: So I really need help troubleshooting the issue. I'll logcat, dump, or whatever necessary. I've been in many cities/areas and this problem persists: if I haven't used data or the phone hasn't been backgrounding traffic, it'll take anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds before a connection is made when I try to access an internet-related function on my phone (even though 3G/H is displayed in the status bar). Out of shear frustration (this has been happening since I got the phone, under stock ROMs and now under AOKP), I tried messing with *#*#info#*#*. I changed WCDMA-preferred to WCDMA-only -- no improvement. Oddly, I also tried GSM-only. Well, great improvement! Even though I only have E, there is absolutely no latency in waiting for a connection -- so pages and other data end up loading faster on Edge than 3G !
I have absolutely no idea why my phone takes forever to make a connection. Under 3G, I see only but a few upstream network activity blips (even under full bars) for as much as 30 seconds, before there is any downstream activity (and when it comes, it comes). Can anyone help???
P.S.: I'm going to try using a friend's SIM later for comparison.
joebobjoe said:
Ever since I've transferred to AT&T I've had laggy data issues. I finally rooted/flashed to AOKP, and while trying to address the issues of no APNs appearing or saving and no signal status in the status bar, I've come to find both AT&T and T-Mobile as Available Networks under some network setting. Am I chasing ghosts here, or is there something actually up?
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Because they both share the 1900MHz band I believe.
Red5 said:
Because they both share the 1900MHz band I believe.
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I'd like to know if it shows up for anyone else?
joebobjoe said:
I'd like to know if it shows up for anyone else?
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On AOKP it does for me too. Just ignore it.
Red5 said:
On AOKP it does for me too. Just ignore it.
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An aside: does your phone stay on 3G and switch to H only under moderate network traffic?
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An aside: does your phone stay on 3G and switch to H only under moderate network traffic?
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The phone displays 3G because thats what it is... then when data is being processed, it shows H because its using the "what AT&T calls 4G but its really HSPA" side of the network. For just standby time with no data, its going to show 3G because HSDPA is traffic, not standby.
Red5 said:
The phone displays 3G because thats what it is... then when data is being processed, it shows H because its using the "what AT&T calls 4G but its really HSPA" side of the network. For just standby time with no data, its going to show 3G because HSDPA is traffic, not standby.
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Well that's strange. I'm used to phones displaying what network-level they are capable of. So why would it not just display H for HSPA+ when HSPA+ service is available, instead of only displaying under traffic.
I'm going to go ahead an edit this thread to help troubleshoot what I think to be the main issue.
After some trials I see that the network indicator switches back and forth between 3G and H a few tines before making the connection and transmitting data. Hmmm...
Basically, "4G" will eat your battery alive so the phone idles at 3G and jumps to H+ only when you use data. If you were on a "stock" ATT rom it would always read H+, but this is technically false since when its idle the phone sits in 3G. CM9 and AOKP accurately display it which is why you see the switch.
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I have a HTC Amaze for a phone and the Galaxy S2 is my media player. Sometimes, when I don't feel like carrying around two devices, I put my T-Mobile SIM in the galaxy and use it as my phone. I must say, Edge is not as slow as I remember it being. Maybe speed is contingent on network traffic. If thats the case, instead of using crowded "faux G" networks, I may defer to Edge to save battery life and get good dl/ul rates.
My phone does the same thing. I noticed it sometime ago. When idle 3g. Internet I get H+. This is with both Shostock2 and Phone Bricker. I was curious to know too but just blew it off because it really doesnt make any difference to me as long as Im getting decent speeds. Im not even with ATT anymore. Went with Straight Talk. Which uses ATT towers. Cant beat the price!!
They don't have the correct apns, but that symbol problem is because the phone doesn't use hspa+ passively, only actively. It causes some lag when downloading, but it is faster fit large data. But your problem is due to a supposed imei range with bad modems. Rehash stick, fix the triangle, and return it.
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Verizon LTE

Does anyone else have problems with mobile data dropping frequently?
My thunderbolt and rezound act the same. At work, the signal strength reported in the about phone screen fluctuates between -63 & - 73dbm. Ill lose mobile data countless times daily. If you go to the settings to try and toggle mobile data, it's greyed out and says turning on...
So frustrated with this behavior
Ehh I have this problem to a certain extent with the nexus but its not too bad
brucekr said:
Does anyone else have problems with mobile data dropping frequently?
My thunderbolt and rezound act the same. At work, the signal strength reported in the about phone screen fluctuates between -63 & - 73dbm. Ill lose mobile data countless times daily. If you go to the settings to try and toggle mobile data, it's greyed out and says turning on...
So frustrated with this behavior
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Verizon probably have a weak signal in your work place.
This happens. Also, LTE is known to stop allowing traffic (at random) and require a turning off/on of Mobile Data (especially when using constant data for long periods of time).
It's annoying.
Different places - happens more than others.
I have also been experiencing issue with Verizon data connections as of late. I have a hard time even locking onto 3G with my Rez. But my other phones no issues, I am now on my 4th Rezound in over a month since having this issue.
Jimi Mack said:
I have also been experiencing issue with Verizon data connections as of late. I have a hard time even locking onto 3G with my Rez. But my other phones no issues, I am now on my 4th Rezound in over a month since having this issue.
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what other phones gets better signal? just wondering?
I have this same issue... What is the problem? Should I get a new rezound?
Its pointless to have LTE if I cant use it......
Its like when it works it works well, but most of the time, it just sits there the data arrows unlit, when i try to use data..
I powercycle, turn mobile data off and on, and sometimes it works, but most of the time Im stuck to using Wi-Fi...
So why should i pay verizon all this money for Wifi?
Ugh.. Im gonna return this pos.
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what other phones gets better signal? just wondering?
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Compared to my unfortunate experience with 4G devices, any of my other 3G phones hold onto and got better locks on 3G than compared to the past Rezounds. Now the latest rezound finally does get a data lock the prior 4 did not.
I've got no 4g issues. Almost never drops. I'm in southern California.
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This issue has been addressed a lot in many forums for the rezound, tbolt, gnex, and pretty much every 4g phone out. For some phones its not that bad. I think its software based cause once I rooted and s-off I've never had it happen to me again. The gnex I think they narrowed down to combination of software and hardware issues. I've been running ice roms since I rooted. I've been through 3 replacements, all did it, all had new Sims all new phones (not refurbished).
Here's a post I followed when it was happening to me. I've done lots of research on this and I truley do think its software based (mostly because Verizon won't admit its their network)
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It's a network. If you have -65 -75 dbm on 1xrtt that doesn't mean you have the same signal strength on lte. LTE signal is different from 1xrtt or evdo. The reason that you lose date quite often is because the LTE signal is very poor in your location especially if you are indoor. to improve LTE signal wilson electronics has very good amplifier, that calls sleek 4g-v get it. It may improve the signal by 20 dbm.
There is a few threads on this and no resolutions. There is some kinda of problem with the network that Verizon isn't owning up to. There is a bunch of forums posting the problem as well, where the 4g just drops off and then comes back on. Prior to the begining of June if my 4g dropped out it would go to 3g. Now the places I had solid 4g I am getting it on and off every minute or so. I went down to verizon and the girl said she is having problems with her Tbolt. We changed out the sim and she said she could get me a new phone but to me it sounds like the network if so many people across all phones are having problems. I am going to call Verizon probably this weekend or monday cause I am tired of being on 3g all the time and not being able to use the 4g is driving me nuts. Things are so slow. Arg.
brucekr said:
Does anyone else have problems with mobile data dropping frequently?
My thunderbolt and rezound act the same. At work, the signal strength reported in the about phone screen fluctuates between -63 & - 73dbm. Ill lose mobile data countless times daily. If you go to the settings to try and toggle mobile data, it's greyed out and says turning on...
So frustrated with this behavior
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once in a blue moon my signal bar would drop a couple bars even though its been in the same spot for about 5 minutes. but thats about it.
Im stuck on 1x since last night -_-
Try using *#*#4636#*#* and toggle lte on and off. If you absolutely need lte only set to only allow it. I have a good lte signal at work, but it dies quickly once in the building.
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Took out sim n put it back in...fixed lol. I use that lte on off app to switch to just lte. Thank you though
No drops for me in the Detroit, MI area.
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Gorilla* said:
I have this same issue... What is the problem? Should I get a new rezound?
Its pointless to have LTE if I cant use it......
Its like when it works it works well, but most of the time, it just sits there the data arrows unlit, when i try to use data..
I powercycle, turn mobile data off and on, and sometimes it works, but most of the time Im stuck to using Wi-Fi...
So why should i pay verizon all this money for Wifi?
Ugh.. Im gonna return this pos.
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Damasterjj said:
what other phones gets better signal? just wondering?
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From all the responses, Galaxy S3 is the best signal people are getting to date. Better than the one xxx and the Motorola Razor Maxx. And HTC and Motorola have been known to have the best reception. Go figure.
I won't have my GS3 until July 9th so I can't say first hand.
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From all the responses, Galaxy S3 is the best signal people are getting to date. Better than the one xxx and the Motorola Razor Maxx. And HTC and Motorola have been known to have the best reception. Go figure.
I won't have my GS3 until July 9th so I can't say first hand.
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great I just pre order GS3, r u sure its data signal not gps? cause I found a couple of review that says GS3 has better gps than one X thats all I could find.

[Q] Phone Switching Between UMTS and HSDPA

Asit says in the title.This constant change between the two network types causes data to be slow and timeout quite a lot as well as drain battery. Even watching low quality youtube videos is impossible because of the switching. I'm on the current CM10.1 build right now. Is there anyway I can just stick to one network type instead of it switching every second? I've tried going into phone information and set it to gsm only, wcdma preferred, etc. But it also just goes back to gsm auto (prl). And finally the weird thing is that there will be moments of time where data can be consistent (for like 5 minutes) and then it'll revert back to being slow.
Ive read in older posts (early 2012) that going to build.prop and changing ro.ril.hsxpa or somethinf like that helps. I can't find that so I'm wondering if theres another way to keep it at UMTS or HSDPA and NOT have it switch.
I'm on the Wind Mobile Network right now with baseband 1.15 if that helps. (I'm also a noob who can just flash stuff and new to this phone so go essy on me ^_^)
They are the same network. The phone just switches from hsdpa to umts when data is not in use to save battery. But hsdpa+ is just a higher speed version of umts, just like edge is a higher speed form of gprs. So That is not what is causing the time outs. It's probably just had network where you are. Mine switches between umts and hsdpa+ all the time, and my connection never times out.
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They are the same network. The phone just switches from hsdpa to umts when data is not in use to save battery. Buot hsdpa+ is just a higher speed version of umts, just like edge is a higher speed form of gprs. So That is not what is causing the time outs. It's probably just had network where you are. Mine switches between umts and hsdpa+ all the time, and my connection never times out.
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Yes I know they're supposed to switch but that's the thing; even in standby it keeps switching constantly almost every other second causing battery drain. And the reasn why I'd prefer just hsdpa is that data is consistent on it whereas umts just times out on me almost everytime or rather when the two switch. Is this just a network issue?
I think it is just a network issue, as with tmobile as soon as the phone calls for data, it goes to hspa and there is not lag when it switches.
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masondoctorjt said:
I think it is just a network issue, as with tmobile as soon as the phone calls for data, it goes to hspa and there is not lag when it switches.
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I tried everything I can and data is still inconsistent. I'll try testing out different baseband versions to see if that does something but unfortunately, it could be a hardware issue with the radio :/ Thanks for the help.
CaffeineGiant said:
I tried everything I can and data is still inconsistent. I'll try testing out different baseband versions to see if that does something but unfortunately, it could be a hardware issue with the radio :/ Thanks for the help.
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Hey CaffeineGiant, did you try the latest OTA radio.zip? Someone named jordin posted it in a bunch of threads a while back. If you rename it to PH85IMG it could flash in bootloader and help!
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Hey CaffeineGiant, did you try the latest OTA radio.zip? Someone named jordin posted it in a bunch of threads a while back. If you rename it to PH85IMG it could flash in bootloader and help!
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Are you talking about the 1.15 version, cuz I've already done that and the problem persists.
Quick question, I've opened up BetterBatteryStats and over a course of 7 1/2 hours idle, under partial wakelocks, google checkin service has had 967 counts, alarm manager 723 and a couple days ago RILJ and sdio dmux were up there. The difference between then and now is that I've had wifi. Is that anyway related? I don't wanna give up hope on this phone because I like it despite its poor battery life and this radio
CaffeineGiant said:
Are you talking about the 1.15 version, cuz I've already done that and the problem persists.
Quick question, I've opened up BetterBatteryStats and over a course of 7 1/2 hours idle, under partial wakelocks, google checkin service has had 967 counts, alarm manager 723 and a couple days ago RILJ and sdio dmux were up there. The difference between then and now is that I've had wifi. Is that anyway related? I don't wanna give up hope on this phone because I like it despite its poor battery life and this radio
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I think you should download Greenify and hibernate your apps. That saves tons of battery. It looks like you're getting wakelocks which are causing the drain.
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