I made the mistake of switching the camera casing with my fiance's Evo, because she had dropped her phone on some concrete last Saturday, she was so sad. I told her lets switch casings, I'll just sand down her casing and if she likes how it turns out we can switch again. So fast forward to Monday and I started my Google Wallet app to pay for something at Rite-Aid and it said "Not supported". Her Google Wallet said the same thing and they were working fine before.
So remember kids don't switch the Camera casing, that is where the NFC chip is located.
Lol. You sure that's why your wallet stopped working?? Cause everyone that didnt edit their build prop are getting the same error, cause google shut down wallet for EVO LTE
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Lol. You sure that's why your wallet stopped working?? Cause everyone that didnt edit their build prop are getting the same error, cause google shut down wallet for EVO LTE
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Yep this.
Lololololololololol
Thanks
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At first I was thinking, what the hell is a camera casing?
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Lol. You sure that's why your wallet stopped working?? Cause everyone that didnt edit their build prop are getting the same error, cause google shut down wallet for EVO LTE
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I hope you're right. That is really messed up if Google did that, and it was just a strange coincidence.
Is the NFC chip located int the camera casing? When I took it off I saw some electrical contacts on the casing and assumed it was the NFC chip.
thanks for the PSA
Don't mention it.
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I hope you're right. That is really messed up if Google did that, and it was just a strange coincidence. .
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Ohh google defintly shut down wallet for us LTE guys. There is also no ETA on when they will turn it back on..
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yep this needs to be close, it has nothing to do with this... google wallet is cu-put for the most part, i honestly i have no faith in them attempting to fix it
Btw guys the nfc chip is located on the removable cover.... I just tried to scan my nfc tag without the cover and it wouldn't work. Once I put it back on it worked fine....
So is the NFC really located on the cover or maybe the cover is what acts as the antenna
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The cover has contacts for the NFC chip
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Btw guys the nfc chip is located on the removable cover.... I just tried to scan my nfc tag without the cover and it wouldn't work. Once I put it back on it worked fine....
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Gonna go out on a limb and say this is because the antennae is not there when you remove the cover. Lol
Closing thread now as to not cause confusion. If someone can provide some significant info backing this PM me and we can reopen this then...
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Well, just bricked my NFC somehow after flashing a Rom and I guess something didn't reset even tho I cleared out google wallet, precautions, etc.
That's neither here nor there tho. I just want to know if anyone has had trouble exchanging a rooted phone at best buy?
Please give me some suggestions. While google wallet is pretty much a gimmick, I like to be able to have the gimmick. Lol. But if I am stuck with the phone then that's okay too.
Edit: I'm still within 14 days of buying the phone...
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If the sales associate at best buy even knows how to get into recovery I'd be surprised..
Does it brick the NFC function or just google wallet ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1701754&page=2
Specifically posts #17 and #18.
BTW, how can I test my NFC myself? I don't think it's broken, I have no reason to believe it is, but how would I go about testing it from the comfort of my own home?
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Does it brick the NFC function or just google wallet ?
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NFC secure element not responding. So basically just google wallet is broke as beam will still work. Neither feature is a necessity for me, but I put $ on the card.
Also have WiFi disconnecting like crazy too, so kinda want to exchange it for that since I'm still within 14 days.
What u guys think?
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SilverZero said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1701754&page=2
Specifically posts #17 and #18.
BTW, how can I test my NFC myself? I don't think it's broken, I have no reason to believe it is, but how would I go about testing it from the comfort of my own home?
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Cool, hope my experience goes this well. Have a friend who works in mobile at my store too, but he is kinda hard to read. He knows I root my phones. Think there's a 30% chance he will give me hassle.
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I know there is no way of knowing now but the new NFC thing sprints comming out with , I wonder if this issue will affect that ?
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I know there is no way of knowing now but the new NFC thing sprints comming out with , I wonder if this issue will affect that ?
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it will use a secure element just like google wallet same thing different app
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it will use a secure element just like google wallet same thing different app
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How do you know if you bricked it. I got my prepaid card and flashed another Rom and forgot to reset wallet . Now all wallet does is hang at the activating screen. I just got off the phone with a google rep and he said if I got to the activating part then more that likely your not bricked. He said it won't let you in the app if secure element is bricked . He did say if you got the secure element message than you'll need to replace your phone
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NFC secure element not responding. So basically just google wallet is broke as beam will still work. Neither feature is a necessity for me, but I put $ on the card.
Also have WiFi disconnecting like crazy too, so kinda want to exchange it for that since I'm still within 14 days.
What u guys think?
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I work at BBYM I could careless if a phone was rooted if a basic feature of the phone was broke. Shouldn't have a problem. And like another user said, some people don't even know what recovery is....
Btw you have 30 days to exchange the phone. 14 days to return and get your upgrade back.
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Messing up my secure element has worried me too. I accidentally ran regaws root method and didn't reset google wallet, though it didn't brick it for some reason. I am lucky.
Are you getting the secure element message? If not, then you're good and you just need to do the fix that is found in the dev subforum here. I've done it twice and it works. You have to do it after any flash of a Rom.
Also, I really don't get the "im too good for wallet" attitude. I have used it and its very cool! I paid for gas at Sheetz right at the gas pump. Didn't go inside, didn't have to key in debt stuff. And it isn't a gimmick. A gimmick is something rather useless and wallet is something I find useful for me personally. Also, when the iPhone adopts NFC technology and all the Apple zombies begin using it, the popularity will move faster.
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Messing up my secure element has worried me too. I accidentally ran regaws root method and didn't reset google wallet, though it didn't brick it for some reason. I am lucky.
Are you getting the secure element message? If not, then you're good and you just need to do the fix that is found in the dev subforum here. I've done it twice and it works. You have to do it after any flash of a Rom.
Also, I really don't get the "im too good for wallet" attitude. I have used it and its very cool! I paid for gas at Sheetz right at the gas pump. Didn't go inside, didn't have to key in debt stuff. And it isn't a gimmick. A gimmick is something rather useless and wallet is something I find useful for me personally. Also, when the iPhone adopts NFC technology and all the Apple zombies begin using it, the popularity will move faster.
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This loi used mine at sheetz as well
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Also, when the iPhone adopts NFC technology and all the Apple zombies begin using it, the popularity will move faster.
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This, unfortunately, is true. Except first Apple will announce it as iPay or something so they'll all think it was their idea, and probably sue Google over it as well.
My phone is perfect and if I screwed up wallet I wouldn't bother taking my phone back. From what I read Google isn't even going to support our phones anymore anyways. Unless you have a supported Citicard, I think its dumb to use a credit card just to fund Wallet to then be limited to were you could use it. Wallet is pointless and useless and those who break it won't be missing out on much.
just lock it and ruu the phone or whatever is needed to get rid of that red text on the splash screen and hope for the best. If they are smart enough to boot into the bootloader they are doing it to try to deny a warranty, no other reason to go into it.
I'm not sure if BB even has a policy on that since the unlocking the bootloader thing is your warranty through HTC that is being affected.
Also, if you have never used google wallet I assume you don't have to reset it or whatever when you reflash do you? I have never used it so I never worried about resetting it. I wouldn't care if it didn't work though since I will never use google wallet for anything but maybe trying to get the free money that's on there.
Ok when does the secure element message popup ? When you trying to open the app or when you try to make a purchase?
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I exchanged mine the other day at BB for the same reason. The manager reset it a couple times and then just did a swap for a new one. Didn't boot into recovery that I could see, but I was sure to remove root, relock the bootloader & run the RUU first.
i havent been able to get it fully set up since I got this damn phone...first it was stuck on activating account...now its sayind my device isnt supported..wtf!! any help???
I am pretty sure what I have read they are trying to get something fixed before they activate it for our phone which is a bummer.
Yes it is. They claim to be working on a fix for it but it has taken them how long so far? I personally think they have just given up on our phone.
There are fixes, but I have still not been able to use it. At McDonalds last night it was stuck on Authorizing Transactions and today at walgreens it would never open the wallet app when I touched it to the terminal.
Works fine for me.
I called and they told me that it was a problem that they are working on but no ETA on the fix... Also it tells me that rooted devices are not supported which I think is BS
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they have been "fixing" it for weeks now and they just seem to break it even more.. im real pissed and want my gd $60 they owe..
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I called and they told me that it was a problem that they are working on but no ETA on the fix... Also it tells me that rooted devices are not supported which I think is BS
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Not BS, a rooted device could pose a threat to the secure element of the NFC chip and could potentially exploit card data from it. Remember modders are not majority users, and storing credit card info is a big risk for Google to take.
Now it'll still work with root, but you are taking a risk that something could potentially go wrong.
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Works ok here. Rooted , unlocked.
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Doesn't work on mine, haven't rooted yet, still completely stock. Doesn't the Google $10 credit expire end of June?
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Doesn't work on mine, haven't rooted yet, still completely stock. Doesn't the Google $10 credit expire end of June?
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They are extending it.. to when I don't know
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I can't get into google wallet at all. This is what it says. Does this mean that my element is bricked.
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Robert542 said:
Wtf. I cleared all the settings in google wallet before I rooted. Well glad that I am still in my 14 days. Back for Evo number 4
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Don't listen to him..... It's not bricked. Mine was working perfectly yesterday and now it says that. It's just Google locking us down.
And I just checked my girlfriends phone and hers says the same thing. She hasn't done anything to her phone.
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Don't listen to him..... It's not bricked. Mine was working perfectly yesterday and now it says that. It's just Google locking us down.
And I just checked my girlfriends phone and hers says the same thing. She hasn't done anything to her phone.
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Thanks for the info. I was getting really pissed that I would have to return another phone.
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Robert542 said:
Wtf. I cleared all the settings in google wallet before I rooted. Well glad that I am still in my 14 days. Back for Evo number 4
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I was joking. BTW Wallet is nothing but a gimmick.
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I was joking. BTW Wallet is nothing but a gimmick.
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Lol. I use..... I mean did use it quite a bit. Just to see people's reactions. I get the "holy ****.... Did you just pay with your phone."
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So when do people get the secure element message ? Is it when you open the app or when you try to buy something? I just want to make sure I'm not bricked . Thanks
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Getting peoples reaction is the only thing I heard Wallet is good for. Once that novelty wears off most people will be reaching for a actual credit card then a phone.
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I thought the same thing until I noticed that everywhere I shop except the grocery store has NFC compatible credit card machines, so google wallet would come on very handy if it ever worked. I find myself forgetting my wallet at home more than my phone, so for me this would be a great tool.
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So when do people get the secure element message ? Is it when you open the app or when you try to buy something? I just want to make sure I'm not bricked . Thanks
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It comes up where the "your device is not supported for your carrier/country" is. At least mine did.
I actually had to install the gw update before it said secure element not responding.
If I were u and had a perfectly functioning phone I would not root it until the gw is up again. Live to flash roms on my og EVO, but this phone is so awesome without it for now I'm happy w it.
I'm sure people will flash away and heed no warnings. Just be careful out there my androodles!
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Anthonicia said:
I'm sure people will flash away and heed no warnings. Just be careful out there my androodles!
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Lol, if we heeded every warning then XDA and every other developer site wouldn't exist.
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I wanna know cuz i've been trying to use it twice now and i get embarrassed cuz i end up having to pay with money. whenever i put it on the pay pass with the screen on and unlocked, it does nothing.... am I doing something wrong????
I've been wondering the same question. Walgreens and McDonalds both haven't worked for me while showing no errors.
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When you look at those machines they should have a green status light.....I went to sprint and tried it once on 5 machines didn't work then when I went to Walgreens and CVS I noticed that both of their machines had a green light on the pay pass icon or on the top. I'm going to state obvious but sometimes the NFC gets checked off I've noticed...
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I went to jack in the box and it worked once, went again after I rooted and followed all instructions correctly so I don't brick nfc and tried again with no success.
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Some places have turned the speed pass off, like someone said make sure the light is on, on the speed pass. I was in a sprint store also and it didn't work but was told it was turned off for reconfiguration.
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In the Mastercard PayPass locator app on the market, if you click on a location that reports that it has PayPass, it gives you the option to report problems, including if the Site isn't working.
I don't know how fast they are about fixing problems (or if they actually fix them). But hey, it's worth a shot if you frequent the place.
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7-11 is the only consistently working paypass site in my experience
think i'll try 7-11 too, but i'm nervous lol
I wish my town had a 7/11 loo
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7-11 is the only consistently working paypass site in my experience
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Same here. 7-11 always works for me.
I work at a cvs part time. I don't know about all stores but the ones I've been to around my home always work. I've only seen a few people actually pay with Google wallet but it was pretty cool when I saw it. Just make sure you hold it there for a good 2 seconds or so.
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I tried my card at two places one worked the other didn't so I'm curious as to if they where different someone internally cause the machine it worked at was different from the one it didn't work at or least as far as i could remember between the two
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Wawa has worked for me every time since release day. Have yet to try it anywhere else. I wonder if it will work at the Exxon gas pumps that have the SpeedPass. Anyone try it yet?
Just tried it at a local jack in the box and it isn't working for them. Green light was on and everything.
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I am in the exact same boat. 2nd time I have tried at McDonalds and I had to pay cash both times.
How do I know if my NFC is bricked? My wallet comes up and says $10 balance on my Google Card... I press the phone to the machine and it kind of just pops up with the Wallet Icon..
I look dumb but I want to get it to work.
Am I bricked? Is there even a way to tell?
I haven't had any problems at CVS except for once when I had my data connection turned off.
I guess best place to go is 7-11.
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Just tried 7-11 no go nothing happened. Worried mine is bricked.
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Just curios, is your nfc turned on in settings? Maybe the new from defaults to off?
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Nope says its on will try again some other day.
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I was trying to remove the cover quickly and I by accident removed a metal contact, as it shows on the pic. anybody knows what is that for? just for NFC? I tried to search online but found not much info on this.
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I was trying to remove the cover quickly and I by accident removed a metal contact, as it shows on the pic. anybody knows what is that for? just for NFC? I tried to search online but found not much info on this.
thanks.
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its part of your antenna?
lfrp said:
I was trying to remove the cover quickly and I by accident removed a metal contact, as it shows on the pic. anybody knows what is that for? just for NFC? I tried to search online but found not much info on this.
thanks.
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I don't think it's for NFC. I believe the one on the bottom left is for NFC. Might be wifi or something else.
I still have the metal contact, does anybody know how I can put it back? Or may be take it to a sprint store to get it fix? But I dont have insurance though.
I haven't notice any problems anyway.
Thanks for any help.
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It looks like the NFC antenna. Shouldn't be much of a issue. Everything should work just fine. If you're signal goes weak or can't get lte then have it fixed it shouldn't be too hard. I could fix it at work in 5 mins.
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lanlee212 said:
It looks like the NFC antenna. Shouldn't be much of a issue. Everything should work just fine. If you're signal goes weak or can't get lte then have it fixed it shouldn't be too hard. I could fix it at work in 5 mins.
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soldering is the only way to fix this i guess right? Well if I see any future problems, I think is going to be a nice way to start learning how to solder lol.
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soldering is the only way to fix this i guess right? Well if I see any future problems, I think is going to be a nice way to start learning how to solder lol.
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Yes but you need a heat gun. A special heat gun or take your phone apart not something to learn on. If you can't surface mount solder already don't try you will do more damage then good. I wouldn't touch some else's phone much less mine to solder that contact. It's in a tricky and hard place to solder. I've been soldering on surface mount for 7 years and don't know if I could do it.
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Im just wondering what the metal pins behind the back cover are. There are 4 sets of 2, and there yellowish/golden. What are they? And where they touch on the back cover the yellow paint/whatever seems to be worn off. Ill attach a picture of it(wont focus correctly without the lense thing)
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I've seen somewhere that those are the phones antennas somehow. I'm not sure if its right tho
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Im just wondering what the metal pins behind the back cover are. There are 4 sets of 2, and there yellowish/golden. What are they? And where they touch on the back cover the yellow paint/whatever seems to be worn off. Ill attach a picture of it(wont focus correctly without the lense thing)
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those are you bluetooth, wifi, etc contacts to the antennas integrated into the back cover. If your bluetooth or wifi start dropping this might a culprit. My bluetooth is usually not functional (I'm waiting on a replacement that is backordered) but when it first started to go out, squeezing the phone together just next to the volume controls would bring it back. here's some articles about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817148
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710905
The longer antenna is for LTE I believe. If you take the cover the top right side of the phone with your hand, it loses some dBm, and goes back.
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those are you bluetooth, wifi, etc contacts to the antennas integrated into the back cover. If your bluetooth or wifi start dropping this might a culprit. My bluetooth is usually not functional (I'm waiting on a replacement that is backordered) but when it first started to go out, squeezing the phone together just next to the volume controls would bring it back. here's some articles about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817148
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710905
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thanks. i was just wondering haha and i dont have any problems Yet but if i do ill know what to try
Hell, I just went ahead and soldered that hoe lol. It SEEMS as though I get better signal since I just went ahead and did all the antennas
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bennyboy78 said:
Hell, I just went ahead and soldered that hoe lol. It SEEMS as though I get better signal since I just went ahead and did all the antennas
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I tinned all of mine as well, and I now get LTE in the house! (Albeit kinda crappy, but doesn't drop out entirely.)
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I havent even seem lte. Sprint doesnt have coverage in this **** hole i live in, haha
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