I really wanted to like the S3, but after 8 days with it I'm missing my S2.
The s3 seems really laggy in comparison with the S2. Today I was running copilot together with whatsapp in the background. I went to make a call and the phone phone just grinded to a halt. Together with the dimmer screen and wifi problems I just want to return this and go back to the s2.
Problem with 3 is if you've made a call you've blown the 14 days cooling off. How will they know if I've made a call on it if I restore and wipe the phone? Apart from checking their network logs for IMEI is there any other way for them to know I've used it? I didn't activate the sim either, just cut my old one down.
Any advice?
The sale of goods act overrides three's policies.
If you haven't seen the device in question prior to purchasing it, you've got 7 days in which to send it back. This only applies if you got it online or over the phone and had it sent to you.
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Ahh.. I'm I between 7&14 days so the law is not on my side.
How would 3 know if the phone has been used? Is there a call timer they can check?
Hi,
I not understand that you say The s3 seems really laggy in comparison with the S2 - I have both phones and the s3 is far more faster and no lags......
But your questions was about how they can see if you use the phone. There is a internal counter in the phone, I doubt they will check the IMEI connections.
I certainly don't regret buying it because it is an amazing phone but I do wish I waited longer before buying it instead of getting on release day. because I can't save my own words, had to wait for solution to no mass storage mode and transferring Apps to external SD and can't use my old MHL cable and obviously have to wait for custom Roms and kernels, so I kinda wish I waited until next week so I could enjoy my phone more out the box.
Michael,
Its a shame that you feel this way.
I think the S3 is a great phone.
Initially I was not too impressed with the looks of the device due to it rather resembling an iphone 3GS, but once I got it and started playing around with it, it slowly won me over.
Moreover, I think The S3 compared with the S2 is pretty good out of the box standard. Eventhough it does come with bloatware and Samsung customised ICS, both very useable.
I have now just rooted and am running custom ROM and its even better =)
I hope you work out a solution to your problem.
btw - If you were to return the phone, do you intend to take a step back and continue to use the S2? or buy an iPhone 5?
No like I said it is an amazing phone but it is as riddled with early problems that were a big deal for me, and it's been nearly 3 weeks and only just getting the phone running the way I like with a combination of basic Apps and command line, and I ordered a MHL cable that's supposed to be S3 compatible so just gatm to see, so it is only now s can really enjoy the phone for what it is.
Sorry, the post was more meant for OP.
Just installed Omega 5.2 on mine.
matttye said:
The sale of goods act overrides three's policies.
If you haven't seen the device in question prior to purchasing it, you've got 7 days in which to send it back. This only applies if you got it online or over the phone and had it sent to you.
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Indeed it does but your understanding of the law is wrong. You are entitled to inspect the goods. The Distance Selling Regs (which is what you are actually referring to) do not give you carte blanche to use the phone for a week before returning it.
Three's policy is (broadly) in line with the law.
Stock S3 is faster than stock S2.
Any S3 rom is slower than most custom S2 rom. Just my 2c...Although I still love my S3.
Flash the original firmware and ur call logs will be gone. Don't think they would check Imei with a phone so new.
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Indeed it does but your understanding of the law is wrong. You are entitled to inspect the goods. The Distance Selling Regs (which is what you are actually referring to) do not give you carte blanche to use the phone for a week before returning it.
Three's policy is (broadly) in line with the law.
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http://whatconsumer.co.uk/returns-and-refunds/
" Under the distance selling regulations, you are quite within your rights to change your mind at any time within the first seven days, return the goods and get a full refund. This means without financial penalty of any kind – such as a cancellation charge or a ‘restocking’ fee. The supplier must also refund any delivery charges paid by you, and any other costs related to the contract. Refunds must be made within 30 days from cancellation, whether or not the goods have been sent back. Any related credit agreements will also cease to exist."
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What you have to be aware of in the UK a contract phone is not a sale but an inducement to buy the contract .
All you can do is wipe phone remove root and rom count and try to return .
moneysavingexpert forum has a dedicated mobile phone section with guys and gals more clued up on your exact rights in the mobile phone world .
jje
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http://whatconsumer.co.uk/returns-and-refunds/
" Under the distance selling regulations, you are quite within your rights to change your mind at any time within the first seven days, return the goods and get a full refund. This means without financial penalty of any kind – such as a cancellation charge or a ‘restocking’ fee. The supplier must also refund any delivery charges paid by you, and any other costs related to the contract. Refunds must be made within 30 days from cancellation, whether or not the goods have been sent back. Any related credit agreements will also cease to exist."
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Not if you have used them. The purpose of the legislation is to give you the same opportunity to inspect the goods as you would have in a shop. As I said, it doesn't allow you to use for a week then return, even if some co's let you do that.
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Not if you have used them. The purpose of the legislation is to give you the same opportunity to inspect the goods as you would have in a shop. As I said, it doesn't allow you to use for a week then return, even if some co's let you do that.
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From the same page:
"Packaging
Under a distance selling contract, a supplier cannot make refunds subject to the goods being returned unopened in their original packaging. One of the principles of the distance selling regulations is to give you a chance to examine the goods at home, not having had a chance to do so in the shop. It would be impossible for you to do this without opening the packaging and trying the product out. Having said this, you will still be under a duty to take reasonable care of the goods while in your possession, and may be subject to certain instructions such as not to wear shoes outdoors, or remove hygiene seals. But you can never be penalised simply because you did not return the goods in their original packaging."
You obviously can't inspect the goods without opening them and trying them out.
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Not sure if anyone has stipulated this but in the UK u can return ur phone within 14 days as long as the phone is "as purchased" with all the gear intact (obviously really) and u have to settle any outstanding costs u may have incurred (calls texts etc). They have to accept and cancel its consumer law (this happened to me 2 weeks ago as it happens I was told this by both ofcom and citizens advice) there is a certain law u can quote but I can't find it (although when I said consumer law they sort of caved)
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From the same page:
"Packaging
Under a distance selling contract, a supplier cannot make refunds subject to the goods being returned unopened in their original packaging. One of the principles of the distance selling regulations is to give you a chance to examine the goods at home, not having had a chance to do so in the shop. It would be impossible for you to do this without opening the packaging and trying the product out. Having said this, you will still be under a duty to take reasonable care of the goods while in your possession, and may be subject to certain instructions such as not to wear shoes outdoors, or remove hygiene seals. But you can never be penalised simply because you did not return the goods in their original packaging."
You obviously can't inspect the goods without opening them and trying them out.
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Opening yes, "trying out" perhaps. Putting your SIM in and using for a week, no. You couldn't do that in a shop could you? Anyway, the networks rely on the fact that you are also purchasing a contract for services, and they are legally entitled to say that once you use the SIM, you are accepting the contract and waiving distance selling protections. So even if you could return the phone, you'd be stuck with the contract. The law on the subject is a lot more complex than people think.
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Not sure if anyone has stipulated this but in the UK u can return ur phone within 14 days as long as the phone is "as purchased" with all the gear intact (obviously really) and u have to settle any outstanding costs u may have incurred (calls texts etc). They have to accept and cancel its consumer law (this happened to me 2 weeks ago as it happens I was told this by both ofcom and citizens advice) there is a certain law u can quote but I can't find it (although when I said consumer law they sort of caved)
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This is just utter nonsense.
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Opening yes, "trying out" perhaps. Putting your SIM in and using for a week, no. You couldn't do that in a shop could you? Anyway, the networks rely on the fact that you are also purchasing a contract for services, and they are legally entitled to say that once you use the SIM, you are accepting the contract and waiving distance selling protections. So even if you could return the phone, you'd be stuck with the contract. The law on the subject is a lot more complex than people think.
This is just utter nonsense.
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Funny that if it was nonsense I'd still have a HOX this was my experience so there u go
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Funny that if it was nonsense I'd still have a HOX this was my experience so there u go
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The fact that it was your experience does not make it the law, which it isn't.
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So here is the deal, I just want everyone to know this because I see it a lot! You have more than 30 days to return your phone, well it works out that way! This is the way it works, and you can verify this with Sprint:
You can return your phone on the 29th day and get the exact same phone, or whatever one you want, you can do this 3 times total! ( I want to clarify this, when you get your phone is 1 time, first exchange is second time, and final exchange would be third time.)
So you can try out the Photon for 30 days, exchange it for the exact same one, or something different? Say you want to try out the SGS2, ok so your 29th day just happens to fall a few days after it releases. Cool, take your Photon in, tell them your not sure if you like it or not, but your wanting to try out the SGS2. Try that one out for 29 days and hey if you like it, keep it or exhange it out for a new one maybe you might have dropped it. Or hey you do like the Photon better, well there you go, get a brand new Photon and welcome back! That would be your last exchange, but it reset your 30 days!
This is real, this is not a scam this can be verified by Sprint, it does help getting a cool guy at the Sprint store, but even so, they have to do it, period!
I just want people to know this, because maybe you do want to give the next best thing a try, so go ahead, get the phone you WANT, not the one your stuck with!
I did this with the Evo3d so I could wait for the Photon release. I know it works first hand, and I have called Sprint just to verify that it works for EVERYONE!
Hope this helps some of you guys and is not too confusing!
-DJ
Two things I would like to ask, 1)Does 29+29+29=90 2) Should/will be there a $35 restocking fee every time an exchange is done?
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Two things I would like to ask, 1)Does 29+29+29=90 2) Should/will be there a $35 restocking fee every time an exchange is done?
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There was not a restocking fee for me at anytime. Unless the Sprint rep is a *oo**(not nice guy) then I wouldn't think there would be. Like I said, helps if you friendly up with the Sprint rep of your choice.
I will let you answer your first question. I hope you would know what I meant by the 90 days.
-DJ
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Two things I would like to ask, 1)Does 29+29+29=90
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really ?? you absolutely had to go there ? I think the op was specific enough w/ his assessment of time for the majority of readers to get the idea, evidently, the idea passed over your head ...
on a different note, my wife traded her evo3D for the nexus S and the douche nozzle charged her the restocking fee.. I told her to wait till I could go w/ her but she was impatient.
YMMV but if they wanna charge me the restocking fee, I might call CS.
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Two things I would like to ask, 1)Does 29+29+29=90 2) Should/will be there a $35 restocking fee every time an exchange is done?
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If it's an upgrade it will b a $35 restocking fee not if its a add a line or new activation
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If it's an upgrade it will b a $35 restocking fee not if its a add a line or new activation
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a very good friend of mine is the store manager at a (non corp) store and she tells me that it's each store's option/discretion as to whether they charge the restocking fee.
I'm likable and persuasive enough to be able to avoid the fee
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this is just a way to manipulate the system and piss off sales reps, likely resulting in you not getting service at the store you do this to. No one likes a tool.
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I believe in making friends w/ reps at stores that i patronize.. I also believe the op is condoning the same by the following portion of the op:
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, it does help getting a cool guy at the Sprint store,
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how would a rep be considered a 'cool guy' ??.. he would attain such status if you and said rep had alot in common.. for example, at the store that I'm speaking of (the one that charge my wife the restocking fee).. I made lots of friends when I told the reps (who had evos) and the techs how to bypass sprint's proxy to alleviate the streaming problems that were encountered.. my nickname up there is 'smart guy'.. see.. it's not necessarily that it's possible to manipulate the system, it's 'how' you manipulate the system.. if you are able to shoot the **** w/ the reps and make decent acquaintances, they are more likely to be a bit lax w/ rules and regulations to help someone out if asked.
this is my experience.. as always YMMV
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This is 100% true. If you're a friendly person and you try your hardest to work with us, we will in turn work with you and bend rules to make you happy. But just to come in and say "HEY BUDDY YOU HAVE TO LET ME SWAP THIS 3 TIMES, SPRINT SAYS SO! DONT MAKE ME CALL CUSTOMER SERVICE!", then I will gladly dial customer service for you on our landline phone, introduce myself to them and tell them the situation and then listen to them reassure you it's allowed, just so I can repeat my initial response of "Not happening here" and then give you a nice fake smile and ask you to have a nice day.
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if I were the rep in that situation and 'that' guy came into my store, I would do the same thing, only after the fake smile, I'd politely suggest they go outside for a friendly game of 'hide and go fu%% yourself" LMFAO.. I'm in retail and have to deal with the public all the time.. we get 'those' customers on occasion and it really frustrates me that I have to smile and just be 'polite'.. sometimes there's not a big enough baseball bat for their knees
if you tried this in my store id lol all over you.
m&p states that it is 30 days from original purchase or activation date. lmao
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Not to rain on your parade here, but in many stores, such my current and all previous retailer chains I've worked for, we limit you to one buyer's remorse swap. It's the fault of the customer for not researching more indepth before purchasing a device, but we understand mistakes happen. As such, you may swap models one time within your first 30 day window. Malfunctioning devices we will swap into the same model for, but that's it. You can go extending your 30 day's all you want, but it is up to the retailer, not Sprint, on how we handle the sale of our merchandise. We are only required to give you one buyer's remorse swap. It is way too costly for our companies to go RMA'ing two-three phones per customer just because you feel like it.
As such, this is not a guide, this is just a way to manipulate the system and piss off sales reps, likely resulting in you not getting service at the store you do this to. No one likes a tool.
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It doesn't matter what YOU and your other reps do, by Sprints law, it is completely doable and if a customer requests it, it has to be done. Whether or not you're that (not so nice guy) that we have to go above and beyond is up to you. Like I said, we avoid people like you and talk to the nice reps.
Obviously I don't mean just go in there looking for this, I just meant if you were indecisive about a couple of phones, this is a way you could give them both a try. It's not that I want every Tom, **** and Harry to start doing this every time they upgrade, I just wanted to make people aware of Sprints rules.
Edit: Also, this is where I would make sure I had a rep that would do this for me before I even bought from your store. There are ways to cover your ass.
-DJ
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I believe in making friends w/ reps at stores that i patronize.. I also believe the op is condoning the same by the following portion of the op:
how would a rep be considered a 'cool guy' ??.. he would attain such status if you and said rep had alot in common.. for example, at the store that I'm speaking of (the one that charge my wife the restocking fee).. I made lots of friends when I told the reps (who had evos) and the techs how to bypass sprint's proxy to alleviate the streaming problems that were encountered.. my nickname up there is 'smart guy'.. see.. it's not necessarily that it's possible to manipulate the system, it's 'how' you manipulate the system.. if you are able to shoot the **** w/ the reps and make decent acquaintances, they are more likely to be a bit lax w/ rules and regulations to help someone out if asked.
this is my experience.. as always YMMV
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This. +1. I knew I would get the uptight sprint reps to respond, but this is what i'm talking about. At least you get it.
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Just return and reset upgrade, then purchase again....simple
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This is 100% true. If you're a friendly person and you try your hardest to work with us, we will in turn work with you and bend rules to make you happy. But just to come in and say "HEY BUDDY YOU HAVE TO LET ME SWAP THIS 3 TIMES, SPRINT SAYS SO! DONT MAKE ME CALL CUSTOMER SERVICE!", then I will gladly dial customer service for you on our landline phone, introduce myself to them and tell them the situation and then listen to them reassure you it's allowed, just so I can repeat my initial response of "Not happening here" and then give you a nice fake smile and ask you to have a nice day.
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I would hope this is what you would do, this is not at all how I meant it. I am not trying to have people go piss off reps, once again I am just giving information on the laws and limits of Sprint. I am not condoning a mass phone return from all of Sprints customers.
For instance, if I had just got my Photon, and then the SGS2 came out and I wanted to give that one a fair shot, this is something I would use that for, as I thought I explained that quite well. My bad.
-DJ
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I would like to reiterate that M&P specifically states that 30 day exchange/returns go off the inital purchase/activation date. Any corporate store will be able to search this in RSP and find the information.
If you visit an authorized dealer you may find some different results.
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"Nice reps" huh? Funny enough that I've been recognized at the district level every month for top customer satisfaction scores on both phone repair and sales. I just don't let people like you walk all over reps and manipulate the system, which forces Sprint to tighten their reins and make it more difficult on the honest customers. You can't argue policy with someone who has to enforce it daily, resetting your 30 days is a manipulation of an extended courtesy option given originally only by retention to solve major customer satisfaction issues. It's not for every joe-schmo to take advantage of.
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You can spout off at me as much as you want bro, the fact is, is it's completely legal. Be mad, go cry to your manager I don't care, the guy I go through at Sprint doesn't have one bit of a problem with it. It's completely legal.
And guess what else, because the guy at my Sprint store did this, I have brought him over 60 people from competitors. Just think, if you weren't so anal, you might have got someone just as bad as me that walks all over reps and gives them as much commission as he could ever get from just one terrible guy like me.
Who gets to vote for you? I think they were rigged! Lol Chill dude, it's not a bad thing. You don't even know me, I bet we'd get along just fine, and I bet you would have hooked me up the same way if it was your store. You know why? Cuz we both have this in common! This being xda.
-DJ
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I'm not trying to be hostile towards you, but people in this forum will read this thread and take advantage of such knowledge. Stuff like this gets people fired when a pissy customer starts yelling in they give in and do it without permission from management.
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So get permission. Don't be an idiot, I wouldn't do it either if I didn't have permission, I'm not stupid. You guys are completely over reacting. I mean I thought common sense was free. Jesus.
This is what happens when someone tries to help the community. No wonder it's quiet in here.
At my store I deal directly with the manager, period. I don't deal with pawns. Mainly because you're going to get this answer every time, "Let me ask my manager"....
-DJ
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Not to rain on your parade here, but in many stores, such my current and all previous retailer chains I've worked for, we limit you to one buyer's remorse swap. It's the fault of the customer for not researching more indepth before purchasing a device, but we understand mistakes happen. As such, you may swap models one time within your first 30 day window. Malfunctioning devices we will swap into the same model for, but that's it. You can go extending your 30 day's all you want, but it is up to the retailer, not Sprint, on how we handle the sale of our merchandise. We are only required to give you one buyer's remorse swap. It is way too costly for our companies to go RMA'ing two-three phones per customer just because you feel like it.
As such, this is not a guide, this is just a way to manipulate the system and piss off sales reps, likely resulting in you not getting service at the store you do this to. No one likes a tool.
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Whats wrong with a paying customer trying out the merchandise before he commits to such a large purchase? How can we research a product that just came out and truly get an unbiased opinion? Buyers remorse or not, these manufactures always tell you the pro's to their products and never the cons. I've gone through 3 phones to finally get the one that works good for me. I'm not manipulating the system, just trying to exercise my right as a consumer. A small price to pay for a multi-billion dollar company that should adopt a "spare no expense" type mentality against this economy and its competitors.
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Whats wrong with a paying customer trying out the merchandise before he commits to such a large purchase? How can we research a product that just came out and truly get an unbiased opinion? Buyers remorse or not, these manufactures always tell you the pro's to their products and never the cons. I've gone through 3 phones to finally get the one that works good for me. I'm not manipulating the system, just trying to exercise my right as a consumer. A small price to pay for a multi-billion dollar company that should adopt a "spare no expense" type mentality against this economy and its competitors.
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Amen brother, amen! I know there's more of you! Lol
-DJ
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That's all fine and well if you want to do your business at corporate, but many of us aren't Sprint for the most part. We sell and represent Sprint, sure, but that's it. Our company assets are extremely finite and exchanging massive amounts of product for customers would not only cost us a substantial amount but it would also risk us losing our right to sell Sprint. Sprint and the manufacturers impose a set maximum number of product that we may return to them via RMA, and every exchange results in an RMA. This number is surprisingly small, and we get charged back for every item that we have to return. Justify your exchanges as you will, but I hold nothing against we third party retailers for denying you anything beyond one exchange. If we order 50 phones in a shipment, and 10 customers exchange their phone twice under buyer's remorse, that's 20 phones we're sending back, 10 sold, and 20 remaining for other customers. So out of 50 phones we purchased, we're only getting paid for 30 of them.
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I see what you mean there, but it was that third party store that should have read the fine print pertaining to sprints rules to the customer. So next time order more phones! Jk. But I mean said store should know about how Sprint works, shouldn't they?
And by the way the one I go to is a third party store.
-DJ
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This is why I've explained and as [email protected] has said, the 30 day reset isn't a policy. It's a customer courtesy option. Your contract and our M&P both state that the customer has a 30 day satisfaction guarantee in which they may exchange under buyer's remorse or for manufacturer's defects. Being third party we do a lot of things to bend rules for customers but we avoid the ones that can put us out of business. Sprint doesn't like to pay any of us as it is, we all work for minimum wage at my store and average $400 commission per month with no overtime and no holiday pay. I'd say the amount we do for customers versus what corporate reps do, especially considering the difference in pay (our average W2's are about 15,000/year after taxes, corporate sales get roughly 35,000/year after taxes) is pretty dramatic. You can't blame us for protecting our companies.
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I don't mean to sound stupid, but when you say 3rd party store, do you mean like a Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc? I totally understand how this would hurt you, on the other hand I also agree that if Sprint has this, they do. Is it possible that if a customer came into your store (having already exchanged once) that you could redirect them to a corporate Sprint store? I'm not sure how it works. I know I originally bought the Photon at a Sprint store, took it back (it started having probs right after the 1st OTA), the db at the store charged me the $35 restock fee, didn't even bother to turn my old phone back on (I had to call in and have it reactivated), and I was gonna wait and get the GS II, but after the announcement I got another Photon (this time from BB, and saved $100 in the process).
I purchased a phone from craigslist didn't know that t mobile had a imei system and didn't have t mobile service at the time bought the phone with case phone looked brand new etc i activate phones not working turns out bad imei.
The good news is that i have the text from seller and a tmobile rep told me that he is a tmobile customer i asked if he could check if the phone was purchased on the account to check if it matched up and he told me he couldn't give me anymore information anyone know how i should go about this situation with the police?
Nothing you can do except using the phone as an ipod.
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Probably not much u can do especially if he included the words "as is" anywhere in the post, but if he didn't you can probably go to your local police station and file a police report and take the guy to small claims court......I think anyway.......you might want to ask Binary he's a cop he would know better then me.
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Probably not much u can do especially if he included the words "as is" anywhere in the post, but if he didn't you can probably go to your local police station and file a police report and take the guy to small claims court......I think anyway.......you might want to ask Binary he's a cop he would know better then me.
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Well he can report it to his local police station but there's not much they can do. This is actually more of a civil action unless you can provide reasonable doubt that the seller is selling stolen merchandise. And if the post says "AS-IS" or anything similiar then you're SOL. You can try to contact Craigslist and report the seller for selling stolen merchandise. They might cooperate with you to take the seller to civil court.
That's about the best that you can do.
Good luck!
That's what you get for buying on craigslist. If it was ebay at least you would have been protected.
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Well he can report it to his local police station but there's not much they can do. This is actually more of a civil action unless you can provide reasonable doubt that the seller is selling stolen merchandise. And if the post says "AS-IS" or anything similiar then you're SOL. You can try to contact Craigslist and report the seller for selling stolen merchandise. They might cooperate with you to take the seller to civil court.
That's about the best that you can do.
Good luck!
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Thanks everyone who helped, Binary i know that normally with craigslist stuff if you get scammed its pretty much on you. But the guy told me he got the phone off a upgrade and decided to stick with his old phone therefore he is lying. I also know that the number he was using to do the business with is linked to t mobile which leaves his information for the police vulnerable. Luckily my mom works at a high school and i have access to a police officer. Since you're a police officer i was wondering if i had information showing that the phone he sold me is directly linked to his account and shows that he said the phone was stolen/lost i can report him to asurion insurance and get him in trouble for insurance fraud at least. The one thing i was wondering is if he would say i stole the phone from him but i have the box with unopened accessories and text showing we were meeting up etc.
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That's what you get for buying on craigslist. If it was ebay at least you would have been protected.
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I don't see how this is helping can keep the negative comments to yourself lol
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Thanks everyone who helped, Binary i know that normally with craigslist stuff if you get scammed its pretty much on you. But the guy told me he got the phone off a upgrade and decided to stick with his old phone therefore he is lying. I also know that the number he was using to do the business with is linked to t mobile which leaves his information for the police vulnerable. Luckily my mom works at a high school and i have access to a police officer. Since you're a police officer i was wondering if i had information showing that the phone he sold me is directly linked to his account and shows that he said the phone was stolen/lost i can report him to asurion insurance and get him in trouble for insurance fraud at least. The one thing i was wondering is if he would say i stole the phone from him but i have the box with unopened accessories and text showing we were meeting up etc.
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I'm actually thinking that did the insurance fraud thing. He likely called Asurian to tell them that he lost the phone and would like a replacement. Asurian then puts the IMEI on a black list so it can't be activated again since it was reported "Lost/Stolen" and shipped him another. He then sold it to you. Now without a Bill Of Sale it's all on you. If you have the text message then you have his number. Contact the seller directly and inform him. Best case scenario he did not actually with full intent attempt to sell you a stolen phone. He may be able to call Asurian and say that he had found the device and they might then be able to remove it from the black list. However they will probably want the replacement back. The most that you can really do is threaten him to call the police... but this is really a civil matter. Just because you have the box and phone number doesn't mean anything. Here's an example. If you were a criminal and robbed someone's house, took their tv, computer, jewelry, phone, box for phone, etc you can also take their identity since almost everyone has bills laying around. At least mail. So they can have your name, phone number, address, IMEI, original packaging... whole nine yards. Does that still prove that you know eachother? Can he still use that to prove that the sale was legit? No way. This is a civil matter and not so much criminal so you're not going to get much assistance from the police.
My advice, contact the seller and tell him that you need ALL of his information. Name, address, contact information for his account, etc and tell him that you have to use it to get his information removed from the black list. Try to get his DL number too. Tell him that the insurance company requires a copy of it to remove it from the list. Make up something clever like that. Then use that information to file for court. It's up to you if you want to try to settle it in court or not but it's your best bet. PD has a lot more to worry about than Craigslist scams and unless the insurance company or TMobile wants to provide informatino willingly to a law enforcement official. They may or may not because they are under no legal obligation to comply unless it's ordered by the court. But again... that's really up to you.
One other option is to consult with your local prosecutor's office. Laws and procedures vary state by state, and between jurisdictions, but in Florida a lot of jurisdictions will operate some type of citizens dispute mediation program using volunteer mediators.
The idea is that by bringing both parties to the State Attorney's Office they will reach an agreement, or the more guilty party will make things right, and actually follow through on it because they believe it has a little more authority attached to whatever resolution is decided upon when in reality it may be an incident that is more civil in nature and could never be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal court.
we are talking about a $350 phone. just the court claim costs $200(at least here in IL).and there is no way you can get that guys information. the fact that he was able to sell you a bad imei phone means he is a pro, cuz not everybody can do that, you gotta have done it before. I am just curious how did you buy the phone without even trying to put a sim card on it..
What Binary said makes a lot sense otherwise not sure what else "Bad IMEI" could be implying.
If this is true, and t-mobile blacklist the phone for activation, may be you can try unlock and see if it works under other carrier such as AT&T? If works, you can try switch carrier or sell to AT&T users.
contact a subrogation service. They will scare the crap out of the guy and will get your money back...I got about 8 years ago on ebay when it wasn't so safe, someone sold me a laptop but it was just a poster of a laptop. Problem was in the description it never said laptop, it said item and it was basically a poster of laptop with its specs. so what I got was a laminated poster of a laptop for 1100 dollars. Subrogation services is a good thing. look into it.
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we are talking about a $350 phone. just the court claim costs $200(at least here in IL).and there is no way you can get that guys information. the fact that he was able to sell you a bad imei phone means he is a pro, cuz not everybody can do that, you gotta have done it before. I am just curious how did you buy the phone without even trying to put a sim card on it..
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Well i was switching from sprint to tmobile back in the day you could pop a sim in and thebphone would just work even if lost or stolen i guess things changed and i got hustled im not to worried im sure i can get it unlocked and make atleast the 330 i spent back its just that i signed a 2yr contract got scammed and want him to face some sort of consequence
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Well i was switching from sprint to tmobile back in the day you could pop a sim in and thebphone would just work even if lost or stolen i guess things changed and i got hustled im not to worried im sure i can get it unlocked and make atleast the 330 i spent back its just that i signed a 2yr contract got scammed and want him to face some sort of consequence
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U can never unlock an imei blacklisted phone.
tmobile block the imei number of the phone, when the phone ever was reported stolen lost or the guy asked for an exchange and never return it, there is no way to unlock the imei number so you are screw,
i say get together with some friends find this guy a kick his ass!!
when did you sign your contact.... If you just activated you might be under buyers remorse
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I was informed i could unlock and use on other networks just not tmobile with a bad imei? i was planning on selling on ebay including the info that it has to be unlocked and switched to anyone besides tmobile.
I signed the contract because i have a 14day period where i can cancel without a fee i figured i would find a way to change the imei if worse came to worse.
Last i was told by a t mobile rep that they were changing my imei and it will take around 2hours.
I thought it was as simple as putting in your sim card? I guess tmobile is getting with the times.
If the guy never used the phone asurion would never do a claim for him! They have to see the imei active for them to file a claim!
And it is possible to unblock a imei asurion can do it.
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Asurion told me it was up to T-Mobile T-Mobile said no I call again
they say they are changing it for me it will take 2hours been 2hours still no service
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I see that Target is currently offering this phone for $80 with contract extension. Are there any advantages or disadvantages to buying via Target? Will it cause any problems with warranty coverage or anything else?
Thanks for insights,
Craig
I can't see any problem with them. Just like purchasing from WM, Costco, or Amazon.
I'm really surprise that the price hasn't been dropping to $50 range.
The only thing is that you might have to pay full retail tax. Definitely should ask.
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Thanks everyone! Will likely pick one up tomorrow. If I wanted to buy a decent case, where am I likely to find one in person (as opposed to internet)?
Wow this phone is really dropping in price. I still remember when I first got it for 200 dollars.
Costco. 80 bucks. Tax on 199.99
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I bought mine from Target back in December.. Was able to get a price adjustment after the phone dropped $50 the following week, so hold on to your receipt till it expires.
They also offer a good insurance program that's $15 down, and covers 2 months off the bat, then is $7.99 every month after that, It also gives you a free battery every year.
You have to keep up with your bill payments and can not use another phone for 3 months or you'll get charged full retail for the phone. Campare this to Wirefly's 6 months (when I got my old Aria over a year and a half ago), and it's actually pretty lenient.
Bonus fun fact: Target Mobile is actually owned and operated by Radio Shack.
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Not sure if this matters, but I purchased my GSII from Target and took out the insurance through AT&T a couple days after I got the phone I broke the screen, did my claim all went fine, when my 30 days was coming near I was thinking that I wanted to return the phone and wait for another phone. Since I filed a insurance claim and got a new phone, the numbers changed, so the return was not possible. Just wanted to let you know, I know the odds of what happened to me would be pretty low, but just something to think about =D
Got mine from Target a couple weeks ago..no problem. Never heard of that 3 month rule stated in post 7. I call BS on that. Technically you can sell that new sgs2 and put your sim in any device you want without them upcharging for getting the sgs2 on an upgrade price.
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Got mine from Target a couple weeks ago..no problem. Never heard of that 3 month rule stated in post 7. I call BS on that. Technically you can sell that new sgs2 and put your sim in any device you want without them upcharging for getting the sgs2 on an upgrade price.
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I'd "read" the receipt that target provided you with before you go and do that, sport.
"If the device and it's wireless service are not continuously in service for 90 days after the original purchase date and the device is not returned to the retailer, I agree that the retailer may charge my credit card an unreturned merchandise fee equal to the device's non activated price minus the activated price I paid. "
It's a contract you have with target mobile.
I wouldn't go around suggesting things that could cause people to owe a lot of money just because you hadn't "heard" of it.
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I'd "read" the receipt that target provided you with before you go and do that, sport.
"If the device and it's wireless service are not continuously in service for 90 days after the original purchase date and the device is not returned to the retailer, I agree that the retailer may charge my credit card an unreturned merchandise fee equal to the device's non activated price minus the activated price I paid. "
It's a contract you have with target mobile.
I wouldn't go around suggesting things that could cause people to owe a lot of money just because you hadn't "heard" of it.
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Doesn't say that on my receipt....."sport".. Get my drift? You bought the device..you own the device..you can even sell the damn thing without opening the box. Nobody can force you to use your sim card in it. Gimme a break.
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Doesn't say that on my receipt....."sport".. Get my drift? You bought the device..you own the device..you can even sell the damn thing without opening the box. Nobody can force you to use your sim card in it. Gimme a break.
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I work for a wireless retailer. And authorized dealers have strict policies. Most only Get paid if you retain your contract with its features you signed up for, for 180 days (such as Wirefly and amazon!) Costco doesn't, neither does best buy. But target must have another way around it. I would be careful because wirefly and amazon have it in the fine print that they will charge you full retail if you change things.
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Doesn't say that on my receipt....."sport".. Get my drift? You bought the device..you own the device..you can even sell the damn thing without opening the box. Nobody can force you to use your sim card in it. Gimme a break.
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Unless you sign a contract stating otherwise...
Make sure you're reading ALL of the white and black thermal paper receipt that the rep gave you, that's your contract with target mobile, not the one with AT&T letter head.
If you bought it online, I don't know what you tell you, other than read everything that was sent to you, even seemingly unimportant fliers. Wirefly had their stipulation typed on a cheaply printed, thin piece of yellow paper that I almost threw away.
I guess the moral of this story, is for everyone to be aware that when you buy a contract phone through a 3rd party retailer, you're signing contracts with two parties;the carrier for the service, and a limited one with the retailer for the phone.
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What I'm asking is, will rooting void Samsung's warranty, or the 2 year extended warranty from Best Buy, or both? Cause I really wanna test CM9 for this. But I have Best Buy's 2 year extended warranty.
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What I'm asking is, will rooting void Samsung's warranty, or the 2 year extended warranty from Best Buy, or both? Cause I really wanna test CM9 for this. But I have Best Buy's 2 year extended warranty.
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Rooting will void Samsung's warranty. You can unroot the ROM so they will not notice in case you need service.
I ignore if you can go back to the stock kernel if you flash a new one, Samsung can just enter on CWM and that way they will know your warranty is screwed.
I have an extended warranty as well on Best Buy, and what they told me is that not matter what happens with the device, they will replace it with a new one in case you need it.
But, and this is a big BUT, we are talking about Best Buy, a screwed up company with sale associates that know next to nothing about what they sale, and you could be in a situation where you need to replace your device because you accidentally bricked it, and they will tell you that hacking is not covered under their extended warranty, even though someone else told you it does.
Weight your options. But my advice is: do it!. Root the damn thing, that way you will learn more, and if you brick it, then you could buy another one (hopefully). After all, these are cheap machines.
you'd just flash back to stock via odin and be done with it
So if i drop it and the screen cracks and its rooted with stock rom will i still be covered under bestbuy warranty or will i have to unroot
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So if i drop it and the screen cracks and its rooted with stock rom will i still be covered under bestbuy warranty or will i have to unroot
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I would unroot it first, Odin does that.
Thanks. How Good IS the CM9 Rom.???
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Thanks. How Good IS the CM9 Rom.???
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Several bugs. The camera, bluetooth, fm radio do not work. For me, it is unusable, but try it anyway.
SirRhor said:
Several bugs. The camera, bluetooth, fm radio do not work. For me, it is unusable, but try it anyway.
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SirRhor said:
Rooting will void Samsung's warranty. You can unroot the ROM so they will not notice in case you need service.
I ignore if you can go back to the stock kernel if you flash a new one, Samsung can just enter on CWM and that way they will know your warranty is screwed.
I have an extended warranty as well on Best Buy, and what they told me is that not matter what happens with the device, they will replace it with a new one in case you need it.
But, and this is a big BUT, we are talking about Best Buy, a screwed up company with sale associates that know next to nothing about what they sale, and you could be in a situation where you need to replace your device because you accidentally bricked it, and they will tell you that hacking is not covered under their extended warranty, even though someone else told you it does.
Weight your options. But my advice is: do it!. Root the damn thing, that way you will learn more, and if you brick it, then you could buy another one (hopefully). After all, these are cheap machines.
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The guy in a blue Polo was either misinformed or lying. Best Buy's extended service plans on electronics like phones/media players suck horribly. Ignoring the fact that they don't cover lost/stolen devices or devices that have been immersed in water (considered how vague that exclusion is, and how hard it would be for them to tell the difference in water damage from being splashed and being dunked, I'm guess you'll have an uphill battle getting any water damage covered). If you attempt to file a claim they WILL attempt to fix it first. Which means sending it off somewhere to sit on a shelf for weeks before a tech even looks a the thing. Only if the tech decides he can't fix it will you get a replacement, which is probably refurbished. If the tech thinks he's fixed it they'll send it back. I say think because if the problem is intermittent it's quite likely the tech will simply not notice the player is still broken.
If you can still cancel the service plan, you're better off getting you're money back. Honestly, extended warranties aren't worth the money. By their very nature you HAVE to get less financial benefit out of them then they cost, period. In order for the guy selling the warranty to make a profit you have to be on the losing end of the deal. Stick some money in the back to put towards a replacement, or you're next device if all goes well. If you still feel better with some kind of coverage, you should be able to get covered by Square Trade, or other 3rd party companies.
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The guy in a blue Polo was either misinformed or lying. Best Buy's extended service plans on electronics like phones/media players suck horribly. Ignoring the fact that they don't cover lost/stolen devices or devices that have been immersed in water (considered how vague that exclusion is, and how hard it would be for them to tell the difference in water damage from being splashed and being dunked, I'm guess you'll have an uphill battle getting any water damage covered). If you attempt to file a claim they WILL attempt to fix it first. Which means sending it off somewhere to sit on a shelf for weeks before a tech even looks a the thing. Only if the tech decides he can't fix it will you get a replacement, which is probably refurbished. If the tech thinks he's fixed it they'll send it back. I say think because if the problem is intermittent it's quite likely the tech will simply not notice the player is still broken.
If you can still cancel the service plan, you're better off getting you're money back. Honestly, extended warranties aren't worth the money. By their very nature you HAVE to get less financial benefit out of them then they cost, period. In order for the guy selling the warranty to make a profit you have to be on the losing end of the deal. Stick some money in the back to put towards a replacement, or you're next device if all goes well. If you still feel better with some kind of coverage, you should be able to get covered by Square Trade, or other 3rd party companies.
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I agree. Basically, that company sucks as a whole.
I HAD to get an extended warranty because I hard bricked my first Player, and when I try BB to "honor" their warranty, they told me I have 2 options, either send the device to Samsung and wait weeks for a new device to arrive, or they could make an exception for me if I pay $65 to get an Extended Warranty.
I payed them, they got me a new device and I still have a little less than a year of this bullcrap warranty left.
I was SO GLAD when I read BB have to close stores down across the country due to weak profits. I hope they will do much worse over time. </end rant>
I've actually had great experiences buying phones from them. I was able to get my razr for $100 less than what Verizon was selling it for. Before that I'd gotten the Droid incredible for $50 off, and a full three Weeks sooner than I would have gotten it from Verizon (Verizon was backordered a full month at that point). My gf got her Maxx for $150 from best buy, and got it 2 days later (versus atleast 2 Weeks).
That being said, their service is terrible, and I won't let the geek squad do any work for me if they were paying me their exorbitant labor rates. On the plus side, I was able to spend an hour and a half playing keyboards and guitars without a single employee acknowledging my existence. In my book that's s huge improvement from when their sales floor were on commission.
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I agree. Basically, that company sucks as a whole.
I HAD to get an extended warranty because I hard bricked my first Player, and when I try BB to "honor" their warranty, they told me I have 2 options, either send the device to Samsung and wait weeks for a new device to arrive, or they could make an exception for me if I pay $65 to get an Extended Warranty.
I payed them, they got me a new device and I still have a little less than a year of this bullcrap warranty left.
I was SO GLAD when I read BB have to close stores down across the country due to weak profits. I hope they will do much worse over time. </end rant>
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When I buy the warranty at bestbuy and I take it back they just ask me what's wrong with it and I just say it doesn't work and they give me two choices a full refund in a gift card or an exchange for one on their shelf and they send of the other
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Wow. Thanks guys for your experiences. Really means alot. Cause they're LOOOOONG. thanks.
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Contribution to the BB Tangent
I hate to add to the Best Buy meme on an Android forum, but thought it might be helpful in an ancillary way: I have a buddy who worked for the Geek Squad for years, him having a large amount of contracting experience through family (all the while he grew up) and about as much with electronics, so he built entertainment systems, did tv mounts, and was "the solutions guy" for customers who called with special needs and projects: was paid well too. (I despise them as much as anyone for exhorbitant pricing!)
He buys his laptops there still, because of the warranties (and perhaps a good credit line): he's that big clumsy oaf who will drop something a bunch, and thus far they have honored warranties even for drops that crack screens; he also seems to have that "luck" of laptops dying...one to three months before a warranty runs out (and he really isn't the type to kill one just to get another new--close enough, in fact, that he tells me about anything shady he does, and breaking laptops on purpose to take advantage of warranties isn't among things he'll do), and despite this having happened multiple times, they have honored those warranties: usually with newer model replacement computers too.
So depending on the store and terms, sometimes it can be worth looking into Best Buy: read everything carefully and compare. If you're paranoid about bad things happening to your devices, or have reason to believe something probably will. Or you can do like me, and talk the Lenovo reps 1200+ dollars off of the normal pricing, and then push beyond their lowest deals by explaining the problems with unclear marketing and deal offers, and then convince them to throw in a few upgrades for free. : D And insure elsewhere. Maybe I'll keep this in mind, however, and get his advice for you, if the guy isn't too busy right now.
Happy purchases.
I dont think rooting voids warranty..
As my s plus was repaired under warranty when i was on custom rom....
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unicorndust98 said:
What I'm asking is, will rooting void Samsung's warranty, or the 2 year extended warranty from Best Buy, or both? Cause I really wanna test CM9 for this. But I have Best Buy's 2 year extended warranty.
I have a Galaxy S3 with protection plan from Best Buy ($10 a month) with sprint service and I recently bricked my phone. I went to Best Buy and they was able to give me a new GS3 (refurbished) in about three days. With a $50 deposit I received a loaner phone (lower grade but still an android smartphone). My $50 was refunded at the return of the loaner phone. So I would say ROOT ROOT ROOT!!! it is so worth it! Why not experience the full features of your device? Just for the record....Best Buy's geek squad does not fix the phones on location in most cases so your phone has to be sent out. The way their company works is, as soon as your phone is in their computer system the factory sends out the refurbished phone. So in all actuality they never see your phone until your at home rooting the new one.....you are very welcome!
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Rooting doesn't void your warranty
SirRhor said:
Rooting will void Samsung's warranty. You can unroot the ROM so they will not notice in case you need service.
I ignore if you can go back to the stock kernel if you flash a new one, Samsung can just enter on CWM and that way they will know your warranty is screwed.
I have an extended warranty as well on Best Buy, and what they told me is that not matter what happens with the device, they will replace it with a new one in case you need it.
But, and this is a big BUT, we are talking about Best Buy, a screwed up company with sale associates that know next to nothing about what they sale, and you could be in a situation where you need to replace your device because you accidentally bricked it, and they will tell you that hacking is not covered under their extended warranty, even though someone else told you it does.
Weight your options. But my advice is: do it!. Root the damn thing, that way you will learn more, and if you brick it, then you could buy another one (hopefully). After all, these are cheap machines.
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Rooting does not void your warranty. I rooted my phone and bricked it. i have a Metro PCS galaxy mega 6.3. I called Samsung and informed them that i bout it second hand like this and i want it back to normal. They told me it is still under warranty and they will email me shipping labels. They fixed everything for free. I complained before they sent it back that Samsung's website says my Phone should have Kit Kat. So I told them that is false advertisement and that is wrong lol. Everyone on the internet says they only have gingerbread. Metro Pcs is the red headed step child of the mobile industry so they didn’t get the over the air update. I complained about this to Samsung and they informed me that they will be upgrading my Mega with Kit Kat. Don’t believe everything you see on the internet.
Don't know if this is the correct forum or not, but I am certain I will be informed by somebody else should this be misplaced.
So.... I lost my phone last weekend and I subsequently filed a claim with Asurion, T-Mobile's insurance provider. However, I have a strange circumstance that did not require me to suspend my service. I was at the T-Mobile store getting a micro SIM card for use with another phone I was planning on flashing over to T-Mobile. Anyhow as it turns out, I could not get a micro SIM as it would render my service useless on my phone (unless of course I possessed a SIM card adapter, which I found existed after this incident). So the rep had to issue me a new SIM card.
After I all of that excitement I noticed I was running late picking-up my kids. So I rushed from the store, and I swear that I had all of my phones & SIM cards with me. However, upon returning home I could not locate my phone. I thought to myself that it must have fallen between the seats and that I would search for it after the kids leave. So I broke out the new SIM card and an old MyTouch 3G Slide to use during the interim. After the kids left I searched for my phone with no success. I even called the T-Mobile store and there too was informed they were not in possession of my Amaze.
I waited to file my claim anyways as I really believed my phone must be in my vehicle, especially as my truck is notorious for consuming cell phone, wallets, etc.! Sunday comes around and I still haven't found my Amaze. So I file a claim with Asurion, and I wait to hear back from them. Six hours later I get an e-mail response saying they have news about my claim. So I call the 866# and I am informed by a rep that my claim is denied because my line has been in use. I of course explain my story, and the rep claims to understand. They check with T-Mobile to see when the last use of my phone occurred and according to them it was the following day. This is odd, but my thought is that I had not used my phone the entire day prior to filing my claim thus the report of the last use of my phone.
After all is said and done, the rep at Asurion files another claim assuring me that this claim would not be rejected & that she would call me within 24 hours. I never heard from the rep so I called again only to be informed that my claim again is denied with no reason given. So again I tell the rep what happened, and again the rep says the understand, calls T-Mobile, and files another claim with all the same promises as before. Next day I get the same e-mail as I received prior which by now indicates to me that my claim is denied. This time when I call I decided to escalate the situation. Well, this only further confused the rep I spoke with as they also refused to allow me to speak to a supervisor while claiming they could solve the issue. I get placed on hold by this rep with the excuse that HE needed to contact T-Mobile. He comes back on the line, and right away starts to tell me that my line is insured not my phone! I of course already have the literature from Asurion pulled up. I very firmly explain to him that every single reason he has given me for not honoring my claim is complete BS.
This representative continued to hold his ground that my phone line is insured, that if they cannot detect the phone on the network the claim is no good and some other idiotic excuse that I rebutted. By now he can tell that I am not very satisfied with their tactics, nor his level of service. So he again places me on hold telling me that HE will speak with T-Mobile. Well... I got blind transferred to T-Mobile, and of course I am informed that they cannot process the insurance claim. I immediately ask to speak with a supervisor. So I get placed on hold, rep returns telling me that I need to wait and she asks me if she could place me on hold again, then she hangs-up on me. Great! An hour on the phone & I get nowhere.
So I decided to try the online support people. Which when I am chatting online sometimes with "customer support" I 100% feel that I am speaking with a chat-bot! This 'person' also tells me that they cannot do anything. However, he offers me phone upgrades on all 4 lines of service. So while I am waiting for this 'person' to type their next reply I began to search for an upgrade. Some upgrade it turns out to be as they are basically offering me to purchase phones at the full retail price. I let the rep know that this is such a bogus benefit and that I could purchase a phone at the full retail price anytime I wished. Enough of this; I'll just call T-Mobile one last time and inform them straight away that this is the last opportunity for them to get this right, and that after dealing with Asurion & their less than stellar service, I will not be calling them. This time I actually get a person that really understands the words coming from my mouth. He ends up filing the claim with Asurion for me, and after speaking to 10 people by now informs me that my claim will continue to be denied unless I suspend my service!
I had figured by now that no human is involved in the processing of claims. Looks like I am correct in my assessment. Sigh.... So again I get a notice this morning that my claim is ready and to call again, which is code for your claim is denied. Yup, my 5th claim is denied. So I am typing out this story of frustration while I await a reply to my 6th claim. A claim which I have finally adapted all of my responses for their automated system to understand.
I realize this is very long winded, but I appreciate your understanding of my frustration with what I now view as some sort of scheme. A scheme that is meant to bilk consumers out of their hard earned dollars, and never provide the service for which they have paid.
Am I the only person that has had this issue with Asurion/T-Mobile or any other carrier as it seams Asurion has the market cornered on providing Phone Replacement Insurance for every major carrier?!
Sadly Sent from my A500 while I feel lonely without my Amaze 4G
sorry to hear..
This is why Ive NEVER gotten insurance on ANY phone i've ever owned (be it on t-mobile, or verizon, or sprint). Because of the fact I know they all insure through asurion and I know for a fact Asurion sucks balls. Ive heard and read so many horror stories about asurion...not to mention the replacement phones they send out are usually garbage. theyre usually refurbished phones..and by refurbished phones they clean the screen, make sure it turns on, and then call it good. the same phone that went in for signal problems will 99% come out with signal problems. Eff asurion in the a, seriously. dont ever get asurion insurance again. if you ever do get insurance on the phone make sure its carrier insurance, not insurance via 3rd party (aka asurion)
i hope everything works out well for you.
Update:
Just as I planned I received an email finally approving my claim! This is what happens when an f-ing computer decides what to do. There quite literally has been no human involvement with my claim. Yet these ya'hoo's talk about fraud & all this other crap.
I got news for you idiots: when a system is finally figured out by people, then it is ripe for being manipulated.
I do agree very much with the post above me though. Stay away from the insurance for more reasons then the fact that you will be ripped off by this company. My opinion is that you save the $8/month you would pay towards the insurance & save it specifically for a fund for your phone.
Another note: I have been reading a whole lot of posts about stolen or lost devices. I highly suggest installing some program such as Lookout. I am still checking on my phone every day to see if it has been turned back on/found by somebody.
Other security ideas to consider: encrypting the data on your phone & SD card, locking the phone, password protecting the SIM card and with ICS entering owner info that is displayed on the lock screen (there are still some honest persons out there, they just don't always think to call the carrier to let them know they found a phone).
About the above security suggestions... I know that people complain about how unlocking the phone takes too much time. My sister is the biggest complainer I know. I did her a favor by installing Lookout on her brand new Amaze. Anyways, the 3 seconds it takes to unlock your phone can save you the headache later.
Just saying!
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I've been shelling out money to these folks for the past 3yrs now.
What I want to know is did you call and tell T-Mobile that you lost the phone? Because they should be able to IMEI block it. Then I would go as far as to get a police report and then send in the claim again. Once that they see your phone is IMEI blocked then it should qualify your claim. Don't quote me on this but its worth a shot.
Good Luck.
If they don't ever wanna cooperate, always file a complaint with the BBB. Works with me
http://www.bbb.org/nashville/busine...on-insurance-services-in-nashville-tn-2131781
Received replacement late yesterday. Upon plugging in for initial charge noticed that the usb connector is loose, and yes I am using the charger sent with the phone.
I have to say my loyalty to this underrated phone is waning, and the thought of jumping over to Samsung is worrisome. I cannot and will not use a phone that I cannot replace the battery or add memory! Sorry HTC, but the One line lacks a whole lot of thought.
If my Acer tablet had cellular capability, I would just use it. The A500 has the best battery life I've ever had in an electronic product, and is well designed & constructed. Only problem is the optics, they suck.
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WellTrainedVC said:
Received replacement late yesterday. Upon plugging in for initial charge noticed that the usb connector is loose, and yes I am using the charger sent with the phone.
I have to say my loyalty to this underrated phone is waning, and the thought of jumping over to Samsung is worrisome. I cannot and will not use a phone that I cannot replace the battery or add memory! Sorry HTC, but the One line lacks a whole lot of thought.
If my Acer tablet had cellular capability, I would just use it. The A500 has the best battery life I've ever had in an electronic product, and is well designed & constructed. Only problem is the optics, they suck.
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you have to realize you recieved a refurbished product, not a new one. furthemore it was refurbished by ASURION not HTC. so factor both of those in and be happy it even works. Asurion's QC is horrible most of the time it seems they make sure it turns on and then say ''okay its fine''
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you have to realize you recieved a refurbished product, not a new one. furthemore it was refurbished by ASURION not HTC. so factor both of those in and be happy it even works. Asurion's QC is horrible most of the time it seems they make sure it turns on and then say ''okay its fine''
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Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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if you know its a refurbished phone, then dont be mad at HTC =)
I say give the OneS a good try. You may find that the removeable battery isnt all its cracked out to be. yeah no sd slot is a bummer but seriously give it a shot. Personally I would have asked for another amaze. =)
I cancelled my insurance a few days ago because of this post! I'll never send another penny to Asurion.
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Blame people that scam for all of this non sense, by all means I don't fully agree with all of asurions practices but working for tmobile I get to see the side you guys dont. People call in for claims by using there friends phones to try and get better phones, people that "lost" it and we check there call history and someone they know is using it, etc..... its easy to be upset I would if I was in ops shoes but if you understand the system insurance is great to have, I always tell people if you lose your phone first things first file your claim get it started even if u don't complete it you can get the proper direction on what steps to do once its lost to get your service up and running till you get a new one.
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Aaueion has new. Nothing but great to me. They bent over backwards to take care of me. I went from a G2 to a one s.
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Cant really say I have any complains with Asurion other than the T Mobile store I went to was out of Amazes so I got stuck with a SGS2. Although technacly two SGS2s ebcause the first one had a problem where when making a call nothing would be heard, so luckilly I was in the parking lot still and went back in and got a replacement. I tried talking to the lady into letting me pay a difference for a OneS but she said not :/ I love HTCs so its kind of a bummer to have a Samsung but I cant complain too much either.
Also off topic: Glad to see the Amaze finally got CM9 working, well GSM atleast
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Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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ONE S is probably the best phone i've ever used from T-Mboile. (after flashing a new rom with the 3dots menu removed) nice battery life, thin, slick, fast, feels great in my hand, awesome bright screen that's just the right size for one hand use. I like it much better than my S3, except the no microSD card slot part. non removable battery doesnt really matter if you have have the 3.99 warranty replacement.
I just cracked my my amaze screen the other day,even had the d30 case. It just landed on its face sadly.. but what kind of deductible does assurion charge ? I'm debating on just keeping the phone cause its just a hairline crack straight up the middle of the screen.
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They deductible is around 125-130$ also if you decide to go that route, PRAY or call a Tmo store ahead to see if they even have any Amaze's left. There were none at the store I filed my claim so I got stuck with a SGS2
Dang, I didn't even pay that much for the phone. I convinced tmobile to fork it over for 50... No way I'm paying twice as much for a refurb. Thanks though.
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I just cracked my my amaze screen the other day,even had the d30 case. It just landed on its face sadly.. but what kind of deductible does assurion charge ? I'm debating on just keeping the phone cause its just a hairline crack straight up the middle of the screen.
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Dang, I didn't even pay that much for the phone. I convinced tmobile to fork it over for 50... No way I'm paying twice as much for a refurb. Thanks though.
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I cracked my screen a few weeks ago. I also had the D3O case but it didn't help at all. the deductible was $130 and Asurion set my replacement right away (called about 23:00 Saturday night and had new phone Tuesday morning). the one they sent me was a brand new phone in a sealed unopened box, so now I have a spare battery, battery cover and SIM card.
That makes it sound much better. New phone and an extra battery will be sweet. I'll go for it. Thanks
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May send back the One S.
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I would trade my Amaze for a One S in a heartbeat. Going to the S4 processor and be able to run Cyanogenmod. Heck, the One S has a much more stable CM10 than the Amaze does for CM9. I hate that I can't get a stable Cyanogenmod ROM on my phone.