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Right now I'm running Supra 1.5, but I see there's a metric crapton of roms available. Any suggestions on what roms are particularly fast, or ones that have great eye candy? Full support for hardware (WiMAX, 3D camera/screen, etc) is necessary - although I'm not sure if there are any roms out there that have that support limitation.
I've looked over the ROM list, but I haven't found a really good comparison of features, or what sets each ROM apart from the others.
pezhore said:
Right now I'm running Supra 1.5, but I see there's a metric crapton of roms available. Any suggestions on what roms are particularly fast, or ones that have great eye candy? Full support for hardware (WiMAX, 3D camera/screen, etc) is necessary - although I'm not sure if there are any roms out there that have that support limitation.
I've looked over the ROM list, but I haven't found a really good comparison of features, or what sets each ROM apart from the others.
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i think all current ROMs (especially based off stock sense) will support WiMAX and 3D camera/screen. as the aosp roms start to be released though, there *might* be gaps with 3d camera and wimax support as those aren't open sourced in aosp.
accurate comparison lists are generally hard to find and once they're created, hard to maintain. each rom developer kind of follows their own patch and posts up whatever information they determine relevant. there really is not set list of categories or features they all agree on.
if anybody does create this type of list, i'm sure there is demand for it. the rom scene has been kind of disparate. rom manager is one of the few centralized location to find roms with some kind of congregated feedback/comment system.
the general advice given, and sometimes the best, is to try them all out yourself. being able to create a nandroid does make it easier to switch back and forth between ROMs. i personally run all stock with root, busybox and some linux dev binaries for experimenting.
most of the ROMs give a pretty decent description of their ROM in their OP including features and enhancements they have made. almost most post screenshots in their thread and you can glance thru their posts to get a general feel for feedback.
sorry there isnt a great answer and i have yet to see a guide which provides a full ROM feature comparison list. none the less, hope my opinion and feedback helps point in the right direction!
This is an awesome, basic, pertinent information filled, troll-free reply that should be copied and pasted for any other threads that start up with the same question. Kudos to you.
joeykrim said:
i think all current ROMs (especially based off stock sense) will support WiMAX and 3D camera/screen. as the aosp roms start to be released though, there *might* be gaps with 3d camera and wimax support as those aren't open sourced in aosp.
accurate comparison lists are generally hard to find and once they're created, hard to maintain. each rom developer kind of follows their own patch and posts up whatever information they determine relevant. there really is not set list of categories or features they all agree on.
if anybody does create this type of list, i'm sure there is demand for it. the rom scene has been kind of disparate. rom manager is one of the few centralized location to find roms with some kind of congregated feedback/comment system.
the general advice given, and sometimes the best, is to try them all out yourself. being able to create a nandroid does make it easier to switch back and forth between ROMs. i personally run all stock with root, busybox and some linux dev binaries for experimenting.
most of the ROMs give a pretty decent description of their ROM in their OP including features and enhancements they have made. almost most post screenshots in their thread and you can glance thru their posts to get a general feel for feedback.
sorry there isnt a great answer and i have yet to see a guide which provides a full ROM feature comparison list. none the less, hope my opinion and feedback helps point in the right direction!
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stick with the stock Sense 3.0 ROM...overclock it (2.3.3 only atm) if you want the extra power
Stick with mine!
empiire said:
Stick with mine!
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I'm running viper ROM 1.3 with silverneedle kernel and honeycomb sense 3.0 theme. Runs fast and looks really nice.
I personally think the Viper rom is one of the best... Completely opinion though. I say just check them out and see which ones you like the best. I also like BloodyBeast. I personally used to love AOSP but that was when I had an atrix with motoblur. I really do like sense.
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3rded!
Supra ROM is a GREAT ROM. It is a great blend of ASOP and Sense and it also had good performance.
Other Roms I like include:
Viper ROM: Great ROM but hasnt been updated in a while
SteelROM: I just like it...
Synergy: Love it other than the fact native hotspot isnt working, also SVN is epic.
Synergy.
Free Dirk!!!
In my honest and humble opinion,
Best sense ROMs: Viper and of course Supra
Best non-sense: SenselessROM 2.1 (my favorite), EVO-nonsense.
They are all good and fully functional unless stated otherwise.
Viper with no lights kernel -- viper is super stable and works great for me. No lights is perfect because I know where all the soft buttons are and now when docked at night or watching a movie I don't have super bright lights across the bottom of the phone.
XRON Rom has everything working and no issues. They have a really good team of devs that respond to your concerns regularly.
I liked Viper 1.3 stable at 1.7
Had troubles with Synergy.. force closes and invisible notification bars. Has to do with the new version being for the GB version with unreleased kernel source. No OC
Ran Bloody Final for a long time. Stable at 1.8
On Supra 1.5 now. Please remove TitaniumBackup from the rom!
OK, this might be a dumb question for some, but i am confused. Which of the two ROMs is the better one? Is Euphoria the next generation Passion? I do not care about GPS but rather stable and bug free ICS ROM. Don't care for customization either...
I am currently on ICS Passion 11b5 and have some issues like, my ringtones stop working every now and then and I need to re-select them in my sounds. Phone is laggy and becomes unresponsive pretty often..
If customization isn't your thing then I'd stick with ICS Passion if I were you. However you should probably update. ICS Passion v13.1 has been out for a while and I hear that that rom coupled with the newest Kiss kernel (Sealed_with_a_kiss #4) make a good pair. You should try that before testing out Euphoria.
Try the AOKP rom, it is similiar to Passion with fewer bugs and less laggy.
If you like MIUI, there are 2 or 3 MIUI V4 roms being worked on. They run solid, just dont allow for much customization at this point.
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Try the AOKP rom, it is similiar to Passion with fewer bugs and less laggy.
If you like MIUI, there are 2 or 3 MIUI V4 roms being worked on. They run solid, just dont allow for much customization at this point.
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Which one is the AOKP rom? I do not see it in the Dev section.
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Which one is the AOKP rom? I do not see it in the Dev section.
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AOKP = Android Open Kang Project - Milestone 4 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512518
Ice Cream Zenwich is also AOKP based and very good. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499455
(Euphoria is AOKP based too. that's where all the customization comes from. Passion was based on CM9)
So the AOKP should be better than both Zenwich and Euphoria then? How come the AOPK Rom's thread is not very big (that's how I judge if a rom is popular)?
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So the AOKP should be better than both Zenwich and Euphoria then? How come the AOPK Rom's thread is not very big (that's how I judge if a rom is popular)?
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Ok, let me make this simple for you to understand.
Zenwich and Euphoria ARE aokp, not AOKP is better. So to make it clear, AOKP Roms are Zenwich, Euphoria, and Milestone 4. And if you judge a rom's popularity based on the number of posts then you're surely mistaken. The reason some roms have more posts than others are because the development of the rom has been out longer. That doesn't mean the rom is better (or more popular). In fact, the best way to judge a rom is by testing it yourself and finding the right one; kinda like buying a pair of shoes, or a car, or a woman.
The ONLY way you're gonna find the BEST rom for you is to take them for a test drive, give them a fair chance and use each one for a few days and see for yourself.
OK, good to know. Yes, I think you are right about the test drive .. and the women .. I guess I should install them and see. The thing is it generally takes some time to setup and configure everything back the way i need. But I will start with Zen probably because it has inverted apps built-in and see how it goes . Thanks!
What DJ said
djquick said:
Ok, let me make this simple for you to understand.
Zenwich and Euphoria ARE aokp, not AOKP is better. So to make it clear, AOKP Roms are Zenwich, Euphoria, and Milestone 4. And if you judge a rom's popularity based on the number of posts then you're surely mistaken. The reason some roms have more posts than others are because the development of the rom has been out longer. That doesn't mean the rom is better (or more popular). In fact, the best way to judge a rom is by testing it yourself and finding the right one; kinda like buying a pair of shoes, or a car, or a woman.
The ONLY way you're gonna find the BEST rom for you is to take them for a test drive, give them a fair chance and use each one for a few days and see for yourself.
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Well put DJ, and I agree totally!! These people questioning us for opinions on ROMs to choose, need to test them out and experience the ROM for what it is to see if it suits them.
I personally was a diehard Honey Fan of EB's Roms, until the ICS ROM's came out which addressed some issues I was having using SHoney, And Ive been moving forward with a ROM that has everything I WANT, not what other peeps need or desire!!
Again Its a personal choice, and should be made outta what you need and want from a ROM, not popularity!!
JMO!!
This is not a thread for "which one is better."
I've not found anywhere in the i777 forums a description of how the two AOSP roms relate in similarities and differences, something I believe would be a common question.
From my googling, it appears that AOKP has all of the same features as CM9, just with a different interface.
Those of you who know best: care to share your wisdom of other differences?
From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
I tried them both, I'm staying with AOKP
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From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
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Great article!
Thanks for the thread, OP. I had been wondering this myself. I would like to use stock ICS (a la Galaxy Nexus) on my gs2, but CM9 and AOKP seem as close as I'm going to get for now (unless it's out there and I'm just not seeing it). Regardless, CM9 was giving me fits with a couple of games that I like to play and I used AOKP for a couple of hours, but that's about it. I'm not sure which is closer to stock ICS, but I'm told that CM9 is.
College kids nowadays, are so smart. Good for them.
Great read. Im leaning more towards AOKP. Been running Tasks rom for a few days and im loving it.
I did use cm9 for a while but now on AOKP and just loving it
It's really very snappy and great battery life
Task did a wonderful job
I've leaned more towards using AOKP, it's speedy, feature packed and more stable in comparison to the CM9 Nightlies. Until there's a stable release, I'm sticking with AOKP.
AOKP is really amazing, it's a great work put by people that care a lot about quality.
CM9 is breakthrough, it's the base pillar of several roms and it has really talented people contributing to it. Without CM support many devices wouldn't have AOSP ICS.
Both are great choices no matter which one you pick.
Fortunately we have great guys like atinm, codeworkx, Entropy and task (among others) that make this happen.
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Thanks for the thread, OP. I had been wondering this myself. I would like to use stock ICS (a la Galaxy Nexus) on my gs2, but CM9 and AOKP seem as close as I'm going to get for now (unless it's out there and I'm just not seeing it). Regardless, CM9 was giving me fits with a couple of games that I like to play and I used AOKP for a couple of hours, but that's about it. I'm not sure which is closer to stock ICS, but I'm told that CM9 is.
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I also had this need and came across this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601518
This was my first flashed ROM so have nothing to compare to other than stock Sammy Touchwiz'd ICS but it is great. Might just be what you're looking for.
tysj said:
From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
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Excellent report, thanks for sharing bro
skblr said:
I did use cm9 for a while but now on AOKP and just loving it
It's really very snappy and great battery life
Task did a wonderful job
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Why isnt i777 supported directly by AOKP? Is it because they are on a much smaller scale compared to CM? Will the i777 ever get AOKP direct support at some point? Not that it matters, Task650's Roms is badass as it is but I still wonder why it isnt supported.
I also have used both and I was a huge supporter of CM. I like AOKP better. As it stands right now I think AOKP is more polished and has more features currently. When CM9 comes more along I'm sure it will be equally as good. I flashed CM9 the day before yesterday just to see what progress has been made. I see they merged the custom lockscreen stuff and some other things, but I still found there were some things in AOKP that I missed so I flashed right back to AOKP. The good thing I must say is that both are AOSP and can usually go between the two without wiping data. I went from AOKP, to CM9, back to AOKP without doing a data wipe (just wiped the caches) and everything worked fine
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From what I've seen, AOKP is kind of a smaller project than CM in terms of device coverage, but that allows them to implement more features it seems. I found a pretty quick and simple write-up here: http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
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It's a good article but it's quite dated given the number of nightly updates since it was written. CM9 has come a long way in terms of features that have been added:
- Theme manager
- Profiles, which allow you to control features available in the power saver option
- Lock screen shortcut configuration
- Galaxy SII specific advanced features
- Performance options OC, governor, etc.
Right now, other than the weather on the notification bar, you can get pretty much get in CM9 the same features in AOKP.
One thing that AOKP doesn't have is the ability to update to the latest nightly through ROM Manager in a few (4) clicks. That's is a big plus if you are an update junkie.
In any case my recommendation is that you try them both. It's all a matter of personal choice.
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Why isnt i777 supported directly by AOKP? Is it because they are on a much smaller scale compared to CM? Will the i777 ever get AOKP direct support at some point? Not that it matters, Task650's Roms is badass as it is but I still wonder why it isnt supported.
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It's all about kernel sources. The ICS kernel sources have not been released for the i777, so the AOKP team won't touch it.
This might be a silly question, but what exactly are the differences between the three Jellybean ROMs I see in the dev section (Paranoid, CM10, AOKP)?
None of these seem to have any kind of "feature log" or changelog.
Anyone have any insights?
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This might be a silly question, but what exactly are the differences between the three Jellybean ROMs I see in the dev section (Paranoid, CM10, AOKP)?
None of these seem to have any kind of "feature log" or changelog.
Anyone have any insights?
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Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
leo72793 said:
Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
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I'm not trying to be a ****, but you kind of didn't answer my question in any way.
a) What's wrong with AOKP?
b) I know Paranoid is JB, that's why I mentioned it. Are you saying it's stock JB? Kinda confused on the wording here.
c) Obviously, you're a fan of CM10 (aka CMX). What makes it so good compared to the other two? I see the thread for it has more posts (and thus seems to be more popular), but why?
Again, I'm not trying to be difficult. Just hoping to get an answer without having to flash 3 different ROMs.
Each ROM has different features.
CM isnt just straight AOSP
Rxpert said:
Each ROM has different features.
CM isnt just straight AOSP
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As much as I am grateful that people are paying attention to this thread and attempting to answer, this is the 2nd non-answer I've received so far.
I know each ROM has different features, that's why I made this thread.
I know CM isn't just straight AOSP.
My issue is that unlike most of the Sense ROMs, these JB ROMs have no feature list at all, and don't even cite any sort of changelog. Thus, I can't make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
leo72793 said:
Paranoid Android Is Jellybean
AOKP....not going there with that one
CMX, Pure build from code. Great rom.
differences, not exactly sure, but most will have a twitter to keep up with changes if possible
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That's like.. not even fully correct.
Please make sure you know what you're talking about before you answer questions, as not knowing the answer will only cause more confusion.
To OP,
Paranoid: Paranoid Android is an AOSP JB ROM that focuses on the fusion of phone mode and tablet mode. Typically putting a phone into tablet mode would be cool, but some features of tablet mode just don't work that well on a phone. So they've worked on making the tablet mode experience work better on a phone. You can read more about it here.
AOKP: AOKP (Android Open Kang Project) is a highly customized AOSP build that is somewhat similar to CM in that it has a lot of tweaks available to it. AOKP actually has a bit more customization than CM, allowing you to center the clock, add the day of the week to the clock, weather in your notification menu, and a few other neat tricks. You can read more about it here.
CM10: CyanogenMod is the most popular custom Android ROM around, with a very large user base. It supports many different devices. We just recently received official support, meaning we will get official releases and nightlies on a daily basis. This is a plus for CM, because we don't have official support for AOKP and Paranoid, which means we might not always get the newest updates. While it has less ability for customization than AOKP, CM is still a very solid AOSP ROM. You can read more about it here.
All three are great ROMs, and at this point they have mostly the same bugs. I would personally suggest CM10 because the development for it is a bit more active and I've noticed better battery life and less buggyness while running that over AOKP.
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That's like.. not even fully correct.
Please make sure you know what you're talking about before you answer questions, as not knowing the answer will only cause more confusion.
To OP,
Paranoid: Paranoid Android is an AOSP JB ROM that focuses on the fusion of phone mode and tablet mode. Typically putting a phone into tablet mode would be cool, but some features of tablet mode just don't work that well on a phone. So they've worked on making the tablet mode experience work better on a phone. You can read more about it here.
AOKP: AOKP (Android Open Kang Project) is a highly customized AOSP build that is somewhat similar to CM in that it has a lot of tweaks available to it. AOKP actually has a bit more customization than CM, allowing you to center the clock, add the day of the week to the clock, weather in your notification menu, and a few other neat tricks. You can read more about it here.
CM10: CyanogenMod is the most popular custom Android ROM around, with a very large user base. It supports many different devices. We just recently received official support, meaning we will get official releases and nightlies on a daily basis. This is a plus for CM, because we don't have official support for AOKP and Paranoid, which means we might not always get the newest updates. While it has less ability for customization than AOKP, CM is still a very solid AOSP ROM. You can read more about it here.
All three are great ROMs, and at this point they have mostly the same bugs. I would personally suggest CM10 because the development for it is a bit more active and I've noticed better battery life and less buggyness while running that over AOKP.
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Thanks you so much for your in-depth answer.
I'll do some more research with the provided links, and will probably flash something tonight.
Thanks again.
tehkingo said:
Thanks you so much for your in-depth answer.
I'll do some more research with the provided links, and will probably flash something tonight.
Thanks again.
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No problem. I would suggest trying them all, since there are differences between each of them.
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As much as I am grateful that people are paying attention to this thread and attempting to answer, this is the 2nd non-answer I've received so far.
I know each ROM has different features, that's why I made this thread.
I know CM isn't just straight AOSP.
My issue is that unlike most of the Sense ROMs, these JB ROMs have no feature list at all, and don't even cite any sort of changelog. Thus, I can't make an informed decision on which ROM to flash.
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It was directed more twards the poster above me. My pizza got delivered in the middle of typing so I had to go let the guy in. Sorry my post was so short and abrupt.
SoraX did a great job of explaining the main goals/differences between the ROMS>
The reason there isnt a changelog is because at this point the developers are more focused on getting things working 100%. Its the nature of the beast.
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It was directed more twards the poster above me. My pizza got delivered in the middle of typing so I had to go let the guy in. Sorry my post was so short and abrupt.
SoraX did a great job of explaining the main goals/differences between the ROMS>
The reason there isnt a changelog is because at this point the developers are more focused on getting things working 100%. Its the nature of the beast.
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Ah, gotcha. Sorry for the attitude.
what is the suitable kernel with rootbox 4.2 ??
mahaseno said:
what is the suitable kernel with rootbox 4.2 ??
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I'm a fanatic ex RootBox user. To me, this question rather depends on personal preferences. There are no such thing as this kernel is better than that kernel because in my opinion, all items on XDA are treated the same respect. If you have to ask me, I'd stick to the stock kernel that came with RootBox itself as I think the developers developed their ROM to proper blend with the kernel they provided, just make sure they are compatible with each other.
Ever since bajee has left the development, I switched to NeatROM JB 4.1.2 Aroma (and never regreted once) since they are more active supports, updates, and mods for this ROM. It's very sad though RootBox has so much potentials to stay on my top ROM list.
You've gotta try to understand and satisfied with the kernel you choose for RootBox and the answer will come from yourself. People can make reviews, but that's all depends on how they use their phone. Same questions like battery life, etc. it's all depends. To me, the best combo is Apollo regular + NeatROM JB. Best battery life ever, you will be surprised looking at the battery graph.
Hope that helps.
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I'm a fanatic ex RootBox user. To me, this question rather depends on personal preferences. There are no such thing as this kernel is better than that kernel because in my opinion, all items on XDA are treated the same respect. If you have to ask me, I'd stick to the stock kernel that came with RootBox itself as I think the developers developed their ROM to proper blend with the kernel they provided, just make sure they are compatible with each other.
Ever since bajee has left the development, I switched to NeatROM JB 4.1.2 Aroma (and never regreted once) since they are more active supports, updates, and mods for this ROM. It's very sad though RootBox has so much potentials to stay on my top ROM list.
You've gotta try to understand and satisfied with the kernel you choose for RootBox and the answer will come from yourself. People can make reviews, but that's all depends on how they use their phone. Same questions like battery life, etc. it's all depends. To me, the best combo is Apollo regular + NeatROM JB. Best battery life ever, you will be surprised looking at the battery graph.
Hope that helps.
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great answer my dear
I am puzzled by the fact
This rom has many options that do not exist except in a few roms like PACROM...BAMROM..
But unfortunately ..RootBox has a bad battery performance
So ... I thought to use another kernel may solve the problem
i know that NeatRom has a great battery performance ..but i miss a lot of options in it
thx t u man :good:
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"Best" or "Recommend" ROM/kernel threads are not allowed on XDA.
Please test these things for yourself.
This is the only way you will get an unbiased opinion,and then, you can decide for yourself if it meets YOUR needs.
Don't forget to make a nandroid before you start.
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