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Hey guys, I am considering bailing on my fascinate for a play. If you would be so helpful as just to reply yes or no if you believe thee play would be a better phone. Thanks!
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It is sort of better for gaming, but only for its keyboard nothing more. I would get dual core phone if i where you.
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hd2life said:
It is sort of better for gaming, but only for its keyboard nothing more. I would get dual core phone if i where you.
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Everyone i know with an atrix or optimus are not impressed lol
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I Came from the i9000, the only thing better about that was the screen.
There is no lag like the Samsung it juts works in fact it all just works strictly speaking we dont need a custom rom on this as it's pretty good as stock (not that we arnt trying of course)
So if you love games buy it, if you like games buy it, if your not bothered about games dont buy it.
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Everyone i know with an atrix or optimus are not impressed lol
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ha ha thats funny my bro had an atrix for about 20 minutes till it had a meltdown coming out of the damn store!
Of course ! Go get it
If you won't miss the much better screen of the Fascinate, the Play is a very good choice. It has a very solid Interface without much fluff, is developer-friendly, has awesome gaming controls, solid (not great) cameras and good GPS. The screen however isn't all that great. It has good colors, but the maximum brightness is pretty crappy, it's not very visible in sunlight and the picture sometimes 'drags' a little. Nothing that would ruin the run, but it's noticeable.
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It is sort of better for gaming, but only for its keyboard nothing more. I would get dual core phone if i where you.
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And the included playstation emulator that is pretty quality
I would buy the sgs 2 if I were u
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I would buy the sgs 2 if I were u
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I agree, the play is great for gaming but it is lacking in power compared to some of the latest phones.
My buddy got a free play and let me play with it 4 a night. If your a gamer, the controller is a serious selling point. On my desire hd, gaming is fun but touch screen sucks. On the play, I was loving gaming. Played ocarina of time. Set the controls to hardware and left the c buttons on screen. Ran smooth too. Same with final fantasy 9 on fpse. No lag at all. I get lag on my desire hd which is overall a better phone spec wise
Maybe it has a better video card? Or its optimized 4 gaming so specs mean nothing.
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Plus I overclock my desire hd to 1.5 ghzs. With 750ram. And the play runs better on stock 1ghz 512ram
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Plus I overclock my desire hd to 1.5 ghzs. With 750ram. And the play runs better on stock 1ghz 512ram
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i have a desire HD too and agree GPU performance is better on the play, quallcomm said it developed more mature adreno drivers for the play, maybe once the play is hacked, a dev like snq could port the play drivers to the DHD
Adding in another yes, mine just came in the mail today. After spending the night with it I am absolutely pleased with my purchase. Finally, I can game properly on my phone. It's a really responsive phone, too. Gingerbread is snappy on this thing.
Yes!
Play is a really good phone, I love it`s controls and on stock firmware it really is good unlike with some other phones I have had where I just wanted to change to a custom rom because of them being boring or buggy.
Play may not have as powerful a processor as some other smart phones, but it`s gpu makes up for it and gives the power it needs for great gaming.
Sony do need to get their asses in gear for the Playstation releases though, right now their line up is crap and not getting much update.
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Yes!
Play is a really good phone, I love it`s controls and on stock firmware it really is good unlike with some other phones I have had where I just wanted to change to a custom rom because of them being boring or buggy.
Play may not have as powerful a processor as some other smart phones, but it`s gpu makes up for it and gives the power it needs for great gaming.
Sony do need to get their asses in gear for the Playstation releases though, right now their line up is crap and not getting much update.
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apart from the Dual core tegra 2, the quallcomm scorpion is the most powerful CPU on the market, infact it's its GPU adreno 205 witch lacks in power
i saw a video by nvidia today and they had a cpu monitor on there that showed all 5 cpu's anyone know where we can get that?
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i saw a video by nvidia today and they had a cpu monitor on there that showed all 5 cpu's anyone know where we can get that?
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I would LOVE to get it as well....it was in the DEV devices sent out before release to companies for review but from what I have seen, we cannot get it yet....nvidia should release the apk...or maybe its ASUS though because that just boast the awesomeness of the tegra 3 even more
Just use system tuner app. Its the best. Does what you say n alot more.
Yikes! Just got my brand New Galaxy Tab last Tuesday and now I've been informed that there is a Note 10.1 around the corner.
The "only" difference I've seen so far is that it will pack a 1.4 processor, stock ICS, and external sd card slot.
Since I got this one in Costco is returnable. However, I think the Note will start @ $500 (maybe more...)
I dunno... You guys think is worth the wait?
It's just that I have a SGS2 and is sooo much faster than this Tab. Will flashing a custom ROM to this tab make a difference in speed?
Thank you for taking my question.
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I can only say I'm running my 10.1 @ 1.4 and haven't had any issues not caused by myself.
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You missed the whole point huh, the pressure sensitive stylus?
Value is a subjective thing though, only you know what you need out of the device. Going with the note will surely mean a longer wait for development of custom ROMs. If the added features make up for that as well as the delay between launch and shipment then go for it.
Me personally i find the idea of the stylus intriguing but then the ram limitation (the 1gb of ram, not sure if this is an Android system restriction at this time but I'm guessing so) is cause for pause for me. We all look at lag critically and i always wonder how additional system ram would improve that. If increasing it on a standard PC improves performance to a degree then surely on a tablet it would as well. Of course that would add additional cost but I'm sure many would spring for premium models with more memory. I bring up this issue because of Samsung partnering with adobe on the inclusion of Photoshop touch with the note. Moving towards marketing tablets for graphic production using the stylus needs to come along with the ability to do it well without the lag and unresponsiveness shown in the demos. Surely there are driver optimizations that can help yes but anyone who uses Photoshop regularly to do production knows that ram is hugely important.
Baby steps though, the note is certainly a welcome addition to the tablet arena. If an LTE one comes out in the next year is certainly consider it.
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I can only say I'm running my 10.1 @ 1.4 and haven't had any issues not caused by myself.
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What did you oc'd with? I have setcpu and it will only go up to 1.0.
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Need to flash Pershoots latest kernel. His droid basement blog would probably be the easiest to find since I don't have a link to his thread here handy.
I'm using setcpu also and had the 1000 limit. Flashing his kernel gave me the1400 option with no other changes needed.
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Benzoman said:
Need to flash Pershoots latest kernel. His droid basement blog would probably be the easiest to find since I don't have a link to his thread here handy.
I'm using setcpu also and had the 1000 limit. Flashing his kernel gave me the1400 option with no other changes needed.
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Worked out perfectly well.
Thanx
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Worked out perfectly well.
Thanx
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Thank you for the update. Its always great to hear a suggested fix works.
Makes people want to keep trying to help
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paleman27 said:
Yikes! Just got my brand New Galaxy Tab last Tuesday and now I've been informed that there is a Note 10.1 around the corner.
The "only" difference I've seen so far is that it will pack a 1.4 processor, stock ICS, and external sd card slot.
Since I got this one in Costco is returnable. However, I think the Note will start @ $500 (maybe more...)
I dunno... You guys think is worth the wait?
It's just that I have a SGS2 and is sooo much faster than this Tab. Will flashing a custom ROM to this tab make a difference in speed?
Thank you for taking my question.
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Return it and keep saving to get the galaxy note 10.1. I read a couple weeks back they were holding of release til june to switch out the dual core processor for a quad core processor. I think it would be worth returning any tablet to get the galaxy note 10.1 if this rumor is true.
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...th-mali-604t-gpu-crushes-the-competitors.html
If this rumor is true I will crap my pants
id wait if i was in your position.. really. return that **** and use your desktop or laptop till it comes out, i wish i would have.
It has been upgraded to quad core 1.2 ghz so return your tab and get the note 10.1
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Google may also be releasing a Nexus tablet next month - in the lower price-point range as well. Hold off for now.
Out of the 3:
Samsung galaxy ace
HTC desire C
Huawei ascend g300
Which one is the most fast and fluid and the most "future proof". Not in terms of software updates but in terms of which one would work just as fast in the future?
Thanks
(This is a somewhat follow up to this thread:
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Samsung galaxy ace
CyanogenMod 7.2 official and unofficial
CyanogenMod 9.0.0 UNOFFICIAL beta9
Pripare for CM10 JB
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Thanks, but I need the phone to work well stock. No custom ROMS or rooting.
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I guess you should compare the phone specs, as mentioned out of 3 by visiting here : www.gsmarena.com
The Huawei has the best specs, but I'm interested in how they perform
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The Huawei has the best specs, but I'm interested in how they perform
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It has got 1GHz Snapdragon processor and Adreno 200 GPU and 512MB RAM, so the H/W seems legit. But its still stuck with Android 2.3. You may even want to check if there is active development going on here at xda for customizations or ROM upgrading.
EDIT: If you're interested you may look the features of Galaxy Ace 2 I8160, it looks pretty cool too and slightly more features than Huawei and cash difference maybe not that high too.
Well the Galaxy Ace has by far the best battery life and Samsung phones always have the best Rom customisation scene so you can always keep your OS looking fresh.
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It has got 1GHz Snapdragon processor and Adreno 200 GPU and 512MB RAM, so the H/W seems legit. But its still stuck with Android 2.3. You may even want to check if there is active development going on here at xda for customizations or ROM upgrading.
EDIT: If you're interested you may look the features of Galaxy Ace 2 I8160, it looks pretty cool too and slightly more features than Huawei and cash difference maybe not that high too.
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The Huawei is actually due an upgrade to ICS. As mentioned, not interested in custom ROMs or developer support, just want the phone to work well stock
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Ace
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Why?
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The Huawei is actually due an upgrade to ICS. As mentioned, not interested in custom ROMs or developer support, just want the phone to work well stock
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If it gets ICS, then Huawei is a :good: from me.
But don't consider going for Ace now. Not that I'm saying its a bad phone, but its hardware is outdated and no enough RAM. Rather considering Ace 2 or Ace Plus will be good.
Now I've completely changed my mind after looking at some monthly contracts. Don't think the Huawei is an option anymore. It's between these:
HTC one V
Sony arc s
Sony Xperia U
Anyone offer any guidance on which to go for or even go for another?
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Now I've completely changed my mind after looking at some monthly contracts. Don't think the Huawei is an option anymore. It's between these:
HTC one V
Sony arc s
Sony Xperia U
Anyone offer any guidance on which to go for or even go for another?
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- Every Phone coming with minimum 1GHz Clock speed (Arc S = 1.4)
- Only Xperia U has secondary camera (video call) but don't have SD card slot, it means you only have 8GB of internal memory, out of which 4GB is only usable.
- All coming with 512MB RAM.
Anyways HTC One V is the latest out of three with default OS as ICS. Other Sony phones should get an ICS update. And rest, the decision is upto you for which model you should go for. If you don't consider about Secondary cam, then One V is a done deal, and also performance wise it should be fair good as the hardware is updated to 2012 (Bluetooth is v4.0).
Good Luck!
Basically, they're all good, right?
Would the extra 400MHz of the arc S make a huge difference? Or the dual core of the Xperia U?
Also (slightly off topic), would a dual core processor, clocked at 1GHz be superior to a single core processor clocked a 1.6GHz? What are the benefits of more processors?
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KindaUndisputed said:
Basically, they're all good, right?
Would the extra 400MHz of the arc S make a huge difference? Or the dual core of the Xperia U?
Also (slightly off topic), would a dual core processor, clocked at 1GHz be superior to a single core processor clocked a 1.6GHz? What are the benefits of more processors?
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If you're gonna buy a new device, I would not recommend to buy the models that have been released one year old or so. Maybe its personal choice, but I feel that way.
That extra 400MHz may make a difference if you tend to overclock the processor to run the games fine without lag or so. I'm not sure anyways. But you told you're only interested to keep it as Stock and not interested in modding or flashing custom ROMs. Anyways I guess 1GHz is fair enough as every phone nowadays is coming with that clock speed, so its likely that Games should support.
If my knowledge is true (it could be wrong too, lol) I guess a dual-core processor performs more than a single-core even if the single-core is clocked at 1.6GHz or so. You should seek some more advice about this, because I'm not sure about what I said. But seriously, you want to go for Xperia U? It doesn't have SD card slot, all you have is 4GB of usable internal memory for apps/games. If you're a type of person that installs almost everything from Play Store, it doesn't have enough room for it to fit within 4GB memory. Otherwise, its fair!
HTC One V
coolsandie said:
If you're gonna buy a new device, I would not recommend to buy the models that have been released one year old or so. Maybe its personal choice, but I feel that way.
That extra 400MHz may make a difference if you tend to overclock the processor to run the games fine without lag or so. I'm not sure anyways. But you told you're only interested to keep it as Stock and not interested in modding or flashing custom ROMs. Anyways I guess 1GHz is fair enough as every phone nowadays is coming with that clock speed, so its likely that Games should support.
If my knowledge is true (it could be wrong too, lol) I guess a dual-core processor performs more than a single-core even if the single-core is clocked at 1.6GHz or so. You should seek some more advice about this, because I'm not sure about what I said. But seriously, you want to go for Xperia U? It doesn't have SD card slot, all you have is 4GB of usable internal memory for apps/games. If you're a type of person that installs almost everything from Play Store, it doesn't have enough room for it to fit within 4GB memory. Otherwise, its fair!
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I know, but the phone isn't for me. Its for someone who's going to use it for basic needs, I.e. calling and texting. I just want the phone to work smoothly and fluidly without much lag. I know they're all good, but which would be the best option?
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HTC One V
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Why?
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Think I may go for the one V after all. Dont think the others are worth the £80 more or so and they are somewhat past the price range. Thanks for all the help!
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Think I may go for the one V after all. Dont think the others are worth the £80 more or so and they are somewhat past the price range. Thanks for all the help!
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Yeah, you've made the right choice. HTC One V is a good phone and 2012 release too. So you wont be disappointed for sure.
~Cheers.
First off I would like to say I love my DNA from a hardware point of view. Everything about this phone's hardware is awesome. Secondly I don't mind sense. The problem comes in when Verizon gets in involved. With this being a Verizon only device Verizon has almost complete control. I want an unlock able bootloader and SD card slot, Google wallet and the other features Verizon left out form the J Butterfly. Because of this I may, still a possibility, sell this phone for either the M7 or the Samsung s4 depending on their specs. The main reason is these phones will be multi carrier devices with much more likely hood to receive updates and dev... Otherwise the DNA would be a perfect phone.
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I'm kinda in the same boat. I'm really considering selling this and getting the moto x phone when it comes out.
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The X phone and the S4 sound tasty.
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The X phone and the S4 sound tasty.
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you guys are funny.
M7 99% isn't going to be unlockable on ATT or VZW without exploit. And if you import it, likely won't support all the bands we need.
Wanna place bets on the X phone being locked down?
Sorry verizon snuck into your home in the middle of the night and took away your sd card slot and google wallet. My phone happened to ship that way, so I don't mind as much.
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you guys are funny.
M7 99% isn't going to be unlockable on ATT or VZW without exploit. And if you import it, likely won't support all the bands we need.
Wanna place bets on the X phone being locked down?
Sorry verizon snuck into your home in the middle of the night and took away your sd card slot and google wallet. My phone happened to ship that way, so I don't mind as much.
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So I'm not allowed to upgrade to the newest thing according to you...
I was fully aware of the flaws of the DNA when I bought it and still love it, but I am also able to upgrade to a newer and better device when it comes out.
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Bigandrewgold said:
So I'm not allowed to upgrade to the newest thing according to you...
I was fully aware of the flaws of the DNA when I bought it and still love it, but I am also able to upgrade to a newer and better device when it comes out.
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No, you're not allowed. you must continue to use the DNA
Seriously, though, being "locked down" is a pretty lame reason considering you'll likely still face that. And, if you don't switch carriers, you likely won't get wallet either.
And outside of probably having more storage, what do those phones have that the DNA doesn't? M7 is downgrade from DNA imo.
I cam from the Razr Maxx so this phone is amazing in comparsion. I do miss the battery life but i can still so far get through a day no problem. Now the storage is where i want to jump ship.
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No, you're not allowed. you must continue to use the DNA
Seriously, though, being "locked down" is a pretty lame reason considering you'll likely still face that. And, if you don't switch carriers, you likely won't get wallet either.
And outside of probably having more storage, what do those phones have that the DNA doesn't? M7 is downgrade from DNA imo.
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I don't want a m7. But even that will have a better camera and better screen, albeit slightly smaller.
But as far as the s4 and x phone. Better screen, better camera, better processor, better battery, and as you said, more storage.
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I don't want a m7. But even that will have a better camera and better screen, albeit slightly smaller.
But as far as the s4 and x phone. Better screen, better camera, better processor, better battery, and as you said, more storage.
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better screen, processor, and battery? Not arguing, but link me please. Didn't know better screens and processors existed yet.
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better screen, processor, and battery? Not arguing, but link me please. Didn't know better screens and processors existed yet.
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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I think solux is just more marketing nonsense. Anyhow, 4.7" screen I'd actually prefer. I am keeping my eyes out for that one. I miss the size of my oneX
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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The octa core processor is going to be useless. The industry hasnt even fully embraced quad core yet. Octa core is going to be a waste of battery and is just there for bragging rights.
Give me one reason why you need one in a phone being made RIGHT now. There isnt any logical reason unless you think benchmarks mean everything.
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The octa core processor is going to be useless. The industry hasnt even fully embraced quad core yet. Octa core is going to be a waste of battery and is just there for bragging rights.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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Not sure how a cpu offers 70% battery savings when it never is responsible for 70% of the total battery usage in the first place.
Reminds me of the stuff intel says.
I suppose time will tell.
At any rate, my initial retort was for the op. "no wallet", "no unlock", etc.
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Not sure how a cpu offers 70% battery savings when it never is responsible for 70% of the total battery usage in the first place.
Reminds me of the stuff intel says.
I suppose time will tell.
At any rate, my initial retort was for the op. "no wallet", "no unlock", etc.
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70% less battery consumption by the cpu. Not total battery life.
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70% less battery consumption by the cpu. Not total battery life.
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Ah, I made the mistake of reading the words you typed should be an exciting year for phones.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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I don't think a octa core processor is going to be much useful. Most apps don't even use the quad cores on the newer phones. As for 70% less battery usage, we'll see about that haha...
The only problem i foresee having with the DNA is the 5'' screen...My hands aren't that big, and a 4.7'' would be nicer to have. I hope the M7 is awesome, and gets good development soon. CM mod + awesome phone = happy me
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I don't think a octa core processor is going to be much useful. Most apps don't even use the quad cores on the newer phones. As for 70% less battery usage, we'll see about that haha...
The only problem i foresee having with the DNA is the 5'' screen...My hands aren't that big, and a 4.7'' would be nicer to have. I hope the M7 is awesome, and gets good development soon. CM mod + awesome phone = happy me
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Again, its not 8 core in the fact that 8 full power cores are running, there are 4 high power/performance cores to do intensive tasks, then there are 4 low power cores which save lots of energy compared to current quad core processors. These 4 cores are what are used most of the time, they will handle simple tasks. Here's a good quote.
"Something like mapping data would be handled by the "little" processor, while graphic-intensive gaming would switch over to the "big" guys."
So what this means for the end user is higher performance for tasks that need it, but overall lower power consumption and better battery life. That isn't propaganda or a guess, it is a fact.
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So what this means for the end user is higher performance for tasks that need it, but overall lower power consumption and better battery life. That isn't propaganda or a guess, it is a fact.
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This is going to be a complicated configuration, will be interesting to see how it performs when it's released. I can only imagine the mpdecision and governor complications when we start introducing switching from slower processors to faster processors mid thread.
The reality is, when I use applications like "maps", most of the time 3 of the 4 cores are totally offline, and the core in use is ramping as needed. I can't yet dispute the benefits of running said application on a slower CPU, but it seems pretty counter-intuitive to the "go fast and sleep" mentality that has been a pillar behind cpu power improvements for years and years.
Time will tell.
One thing is for sure, we can hardly state "facts" when the item doesn't even exist yet. Until then, it absolutely is "speculation" and/or "a guess".
I'm not sure where everyone is hearing that Verizon is getting the M7 on launch. Last I heard, this is T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint on launch.