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I just noticed that when I put my hand around the bottom of the phone my signal drops by 2-3 bars and as soon as i remove it, it goes back up. I can do it over and over again. Just out of curiosity I tried this with my evo 4g and the signal doesn't change. I've seen a bunch of people reporting that their reception isn't as good as other phones with the 3d. could it be the antenna placement just like the iphone 4?
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I just noticed that when I put my hand around the bottom of the phone my signal drops by 2-3 bars and as soon as i remove it, it goes back up. I can do it over and over again. Just out of curiosity I tried this with my evo 4g and the signal doesn't change. I've seen a bunch of people reporting that their reception isn't as good as other phones with the 3d. could it be the antenna placement just like the iphone 4?
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Can't recreate it here. Wrapped both hands around my phone like I was strangling it, didn't do it.
Also tried as the post above...notta.
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I just noticed that when I put my hand around the bottom of the phone my signal drops by 2-3 bars and as soon as i remove it, it goes back up. I can do it over and over again. Just out of curiosity I tried this with my evo 4g and the signal doesn't change. I've seen a bunch of people reporting that their reception isn't as good as other phones with the 3d. could it be the antenna placement just like the iphone 4?
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I would recommend getting a bumper...
No, for real though, the iphone had the issue because the antenna was built into the actual outside of the phone, when your skin touched it, it would change the attenuation which caused the issue of poor reception. Our antenna is totally internal so this would not happen.
I think your holding it wrong. Seriously though I just did the same and was unable to recreate the issue. Might be defective.
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I just noticed that when I put my hand around the bottom of the phone my signal drops by 2-3 bars and as soon as i remove it, it goes back up. I can do it over and over again. Just out of curiosity I tried this with my evo 4g and the signal doesn't change. I've seen a bunch of people reporting that their reception isn't as good as other phones with the 3d. could it be the antenna placement just like the iphone 4?
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My phone also does this I thought I was the only one that had.this problem.
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I just noticed that when I put my hand around the bottom of the phone my signal drops by 2-3 bars and as soon as i remove it, it goes back up. I can do it over and over again. Just out of curiosity I tried this with my evo 4g and the signal doesn't change. I've seen a bunch of people reporting that their reception isn't as good as other phones with the 3d. could it be the antenna placement just like the iphone 4?
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I have this problem too... Anybody claiming they don't have this problem are in a good coverage area. If you download the app open signal maps you can see the drop in dbm once you hold the device, it's very irritating
Mine does it to, very annoying.
I saw somewhere in another thread that the radio antenna is indeed on the bottom of the 3d. Dont know if thats confirmed or not. But it would explain the drop when covered by hands.
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I have this problem too... Anybody claiming they don't have this problem are in a good coverage area. If you download the app open signal maps you can see the drop in dbm once you hold the device, it's very irritating
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61% with nothing touching my phone.
70% with my hand covering the bottom.
56% with both hands around the phone.
I fail to see how this is like apple because EVERY PHONE loses signal when being touched. The problem with Apple's was that it dropped the calls.
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Yes, without anything it's at 80% and once I grab it it drops to 30%. The antenna does seem to be at the bottom unlike the 4G which was on the top.
And calls drop all the time.
DoctorComrade said:
61% with nothing touching my phone.
70% with my hand covering the bottom.
56% with both hands around the phone.
I fail to see how this is like apple because EVERY PHONE loses signal when being touched. The problem with Apple's was that it dropped the calls.
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My problem is that if I cover the upper part but well I almost never do that.
This needs to be recognized as a known issue since it has been brought up many times
I noticed the same thing but wierd thing is sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't.
I could recreate it for 15 tries in a row but then I closed the internet browser and moved the phone a couple inches and the problem stopped.
I will keep monitoring the signal while I grab the phone and see what happens. But yes it did happen when I grabbed the bottom.
Mine does it too...this is the only problem I have
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This needs to be recognized as a known issue since it has been brought up many times
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Its not a "known issue". It just so happens that this is a cell phone. Which has antennas. Which, when covered, loose reception. No way around that. Its the nature of cell phones.
Comparatively its like complaining that when in a lead lined room, you have poor reception.
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Its not a "known issue". It just so happens that this is a cell phone. Which has antennas. Which, when covered, loose reception. No way around that. Its the nature of cell phones.
Comparatively its like complaining that when in a lead lined room, you have poor reception.
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The iphone issue was caused by them leaving the antenna exposed on the outside of the phone. Whenever you would touch it in a certain spot it would short it out and you would lose the signal.
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I have this problem too... Anybody claiming they don't have this problem are in a good coverage area. If you download the app open signal maps you can see the drop in dbm once you hold the device, it's very irritating
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i used that app and covered the phone up and nothing changed the only problem i have ever had is one of the cases i have blocks a little bit of my 4g signal but nothing else
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The iphone issue was caused by them leaving the antenna exposed on the outside of the phone. Whenever you would touch it in a certain spot it would short it out and you would lose the signal.
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While it may not be exactly like the iphone, could it be similar in the fact the antenna placement isn't optimal? I think that most people hold their phones toward the bottom where the antenna is where as on other phones like the evo 4g they wouldn't be covering the antenna by doing this. I just know I've seen quite a few complaints regarding reception so this could be a feasible reason why.
.....or should I say lack of sensitivity.
I've been using my Prime for a couple of days, and I'm noticing that I'm having to touch the screen repeatedly to get something to happen.
Additionally, it seems that the touch signal isn't too accurate as it's going to the item or 'button' next to what I was attempting to actuate.
I pulled out my TF101 (long story as to why I have it again), and experience no such issues. Anyone else experiencing these issues?
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.....or should I say lack of sensitivity.
I've been using my Prime for a couple of days, and I'm noticing that I'm having to touch the screen repeatedly to get something to happen.
Additionally, it seems that the touch signal isn't too accurate as it's going to the item or 'button' next to what I was attempting to actuate.
I pulled out my TF101 (long story as to why I have it again), and experience no such issues. Anyone else experiencing these issues?
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Were you able to update the software? I remember reading on here it was supposed to deal with touch screen issues.
first, you do know this topic has been covered a few times right?
Second, in fact it was covered i think one or two threads above yours
third, If you've updated to .33 that might fix your problems. I have had nothing but issues with mine locking up and "jumps". this isnt an isolated issue...but I have noticed a big decrease in dead zones since .33
I'm taking mine back to GS for one of the newer jan 12th batches...and we'll see how it goes.
just a friendly reminder..please dont post a thread that is already in existence..your breaking the #1 rule.
just sayin
Hi
Is anybody Else experiencing "deathgrip" issues with their S3?
Been all over the internet and found a few posts about the issue but nothing really helpful.
Any tips? Any ideas? Aside from using my phone upside down....
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First I've heard of it so probably just people in a bad signal area and adding 2 and 2 to make 9.
I have 2-3 bars if it lays still on the table or I hold it upside down, if I hold it any way a normal person would it goes to hell.
This is in areas with poor reception but all tested numerous times in the same area. My girlfriend has a xperia s and she has no problem what so ever. My Nokia work phone also works flawlessly.
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Hi
Is anybody Else experiencing "deathgrip" issues with their S3?
Been all over the internet and found a few posts about the issue but nothing really helpful.
Any tips? Any ideas? Aside from using my phone upside down....
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Very strange, personally i'd be thinking some local interference, is this present everywhere or just at home??
Hmm. So far so good here. No drop in dB with my hand covering the bottom area/bottom back area(s) of the phone.
some people just absorb RF more than others.
this is something i've encountered a lot at work with people using wireless microphones, guitar wireless systems and in ear monitors. certain people just cannot use this stuff because their bodies just absorb so much of the RF that the gear becomes useless if their body blocks the signal in any way.
it's a nightmare to try to explain this to some idiot who just expects his wireless mic to work absolutely perfectly from 600 feet away in a field.
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Hmm. So far so good here. No drop in dB with my hand covering the bottom area/bottom back area(s) of the phone.
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Same here.
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Mine is a nightmare it works fine in my right hand the moment I switch to the left my voice fades in and out and people cant hear me. The problem only seems to have happened since the software upgrade and my wifi is now much better than before so can't help feeling it's something the software has introduced
If you watch the S3 disassembly video you can see that it has several antennas, so I don't think the death grip is possible with this phone..
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some people just absorb RF more than others.
this is something i've encountered a lot at work with people using wireless microphones, guitar wireless systems and in ear monitors. certain people just cannot use this stuff because their bodies just absorb so much of the RF that the gear becomes useless if their body blocks the signal in any way.
it's a nightmare to try to explain this to some idiot who just expects his wireless mic to work absolutely perfectly from 600 feet away in a field.
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My colleague just suggested eating less spinach. That way you lower your iron contents in your body
Guess I absorb all RF coming my way then.
But my wi-fi has lower signal strength on my S3 compared to my old Incredible S too which made me want to ask if there was only me who had the problem
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My colleague just suggested eating less spinach. That way you lower your iron contents in your body
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Then how do I deal with Bluto?
Did a test while checking the signal strenght. -89 dBm 12 asu holding the phone upside down, -103 dBm 5 asu while "death gripping" it.
I dont know how "audio db" translates to "signal db", but surely my signal can't be 32x worse while "death gripping" it?
(Rougly calculated on the basis that every 3 db indicates a doubling in signal strenght)
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Then how do I deal with Bluto?
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Best.post.ever.
I'd like to re-bump this issue, seeing as how I experienced it too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724070
This might be a poor signal on top of the issue seeing as how its not happening to everyone. I managed to replicate this three times with my hand on stopping all signal until its released and bars are back to full.
Go to settings - about device - status. Then take write down your signal holding it normally and upside down.
If you do this we can compare the change in signal strenght on our phones.
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Normal -84 dBm
Upside Down -85 dBm
No difference at all really.
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Normal -84 dBm
Upside Down -85 dBm
No difference at all really.
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What kinda signal was that? 3G? I start to think that this is a problem in places with edge/gsm aka poor reception to begin with.
It also needs about a minute to update properly when checking the signal.
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Top way up -107 dBm 4asu
Bottom way up -103dBm 5asu
Gripped as described (death-grip), -103dBm 0asu
Thats HSUPA
Hey xda.
For months now my screen has frequently had an issue where it randomely starts selecting a part of the screen and i lose all control until i turn the screen off/on.
Issue persists through every rom and "tweak", as well as between full fastboot wipes.
Seems triggered by the faintest moisture. Im talking light sweat on my fingers, or the subtle humidity of breath half a foot away!!
Is this a hardward problem? Notably, my screen has slowly been "popping out" at the corner where the camera is for quite awhile. Its never been dropped, so im thinking design flaw.
Amusingly it happened as i typed this and prematurely posted the thread ...
Atrix -- because newer and more expensive isn't always better.
As far as I know this is an issue caused by a dying digitizer. I have the same problem and can't fix it either, haven't tried replacing the digitizer yet
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I still have this issue and the Digitiser was replaced by T-Mobile under warranty. The problem went from a 10 to a 1 on a scale of 1 to 10 after they replaced it. But it 'is' still there. Clearly some kind of design fault/component fault with the majority of Atrix's every made.
Turning screen on and off always stops it happening.
A tiny bit of sweat on my fingers makes typing anything hell.
Get the digitiser replaced under warranty. They still did mine even though it was unlocked. It didn't cure it on mine, but like I said, it went from wanting to throw it through a window to actually usable, if annoying at times.
Hi,
Try the Raindrop Fix by Notorious544d maybe? ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467696 )
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Hey xda.
For months now my screen has frequently had an issue where it randomely starts selecting a part of the screen and i lose all control until i turn the screen off/on.
Issue persists through every rom and "tweak", as well as between full fastboot wipes.
Seems triggered by the faintest moisture. Im talking light sweat on my fingers, or the subtle humidity of breath half a foot away!!
Is this a hardward problem? Notably, my screen has slowly been "popping out" at the corner where the camera is for quite awhile. Its never been dropped, so im thinking design flaw.
Amusingly it happened as i typed this and prematurely posted the thread ...
Atrix -- because newer and more expensive isn't always better.
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Hi,
Try the Raindrop Fix by Notorious544d maybe? ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1467696 )
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I was having similar problems xhazk and I did the raindrop fix and so far so good. I'd definitely suggest you give it a try.
I had the problem on Neutrino too, which includes raindrop fix I assume (notorious made both).
Ill give it a try on the CM7 nightly im using anyway. =\
Atrix -- because newer and more expensive isn't always better.
I'm using neutrino as well, it doesn't have the fix, you need to install it
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Sounds like the ribbon connection for your digitizer is ether distressed or the connector is unseated. That little half inch peace of ribbon has very little tolerance. If your glass (this is the actual digitizer) is separating from the frame repeatedly then its a safe bet your problem is physical. If its still working fine order a pre cut adhesive strip from eBay and stick it back on . Otherwise its going to stop working soon.
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Sounds plausible Cab.
Looks like Ill be taking this thing apart soon.
Atrix -- because newer and more expensive isn't always better.
I'd try the raindrop fix first though, I was having similar problems and now my phone works perfect.
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I'd try the raindrop fix first though, I was having similar problems and now my phone works perfect.
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Yea im always a fan of simple first. All else fails component replacement. If you have to do a tear down and you would with a didgitiser do a youtube search for "Atrix teardown". Patience and a how to will get you threw it. You get frustrated take a break and walk away for a little while. Never use force. If you have done it before then you know better already and anyone else with this problem now knows lol.
Ya I did attemp "raindrop fix". Was not a solution in my case.
Fortunately I have been tearing hardware down since i was about 6 so it's second nature.
Atrix -- because newer and more expensive isn't always better.
Good luck with it man. Hopefully it works out for you!
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Wanted to give it a few days, but applying "raindrop fix" on cm7 20120805 seems to have... lessened the issue to rare occurences so its tolerable now.
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Greetings to all the XDA community. I felt like i had a bunch of different problems with my new HTC One, that encompassed a few different threads, so i was wondering if Im the only one with such problems. If any of you had experienced one or all of these problems please let me know what you did to fix them. I appreciate your input, first time HTC owner here
1. Battery life very very subpar. Charged it for 4hours out of the box before using the first time, battery fell from 100 to 20 in 5 hrs of regular use.
2. Battery charge time is terrible. Takes 3 hours to go from 30% to 95%.
3 Wifi scan range is horrible. My Note 2 picked up 2 bars of wifi in my room, while the One cant even connect. Sitting 10ft from the Router, bars keep fluctuating from 4(max) to 1, sticking to 2 bars mostly. I dont want to burn through my cellular data allowance atleast at home.
4 Camera resolution in very average, I know its only 4 "ultrapixel", but it could be muh sharper even with that.
5 and ofcourse, the legendary capacitive buttons, especially the Back button. Unresponsive half the time, responsive after 3 soft touched (and one frustrated one). I dont mind them lighting off at times, but the unresponsiveness is unacceptable.
The build is gorgeous, no problems anywhere. The speakers are just awesome. The phone feels amazing in hand. But if i cant get wifi in my own house, and the buttons keep being so stubborn, i cant spend 2 days with that, let alone 2 years. Am i being too picky here?I hope so, cuz i REALLY love this phone for its PROs.
Please let me know what you guys think!! Thanks!!
My only problem is that battery seems to not last long and the gap on top. I wonder if I can exchange it?
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i didn't notice battery life issues (esp coming over from my nexus s) but I probably have less background stuff running than most-- I actively shut down facebook syncs, google talk, etc.
no issues with wifi antenna whatsoever.
the capacitive responsiveness issue is documented and supposedly fixed in one of the upcoming OTAs.
Sounds like you may have a defective device. I'd exchange it.
Can I exchange it because of the gap?
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Can I exchange it because of the gap?
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worse they can say is no lol tell them you feel like its defective and its supposed to be "gaplesssssssssss"
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Can I exchange it because of the gap?
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They advertised the phone as GAPLESS so if theres a gap and you think is bothering you then you free to return it ( if you still on you 15 days )
Half of the top of mine is gapped from between the head jack and the power button all on the left side id guess roughly 1/64th of an inch..maybe less it's hardly a concern that's how miniscule or a problem it is to me.
As long as it doesn't display screen issues and get dirt beneath I'm fine with it.
It's not falling apart and I use an otterbox anyhow.
It would be far more realistic to let the phone grow old.... maybe drop it ...crack something let wear take place....so it looks legit... have a good reason to get an exchange/assurion claim.
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Half of the top of mine is gapped from between the head jack and the power button all on the left side id guess roughly 1/64th of an inch..maybe less it's hardly a concern that's how miniscule or a problem it is to me.
As long as it doesn't display screen issues and get dirt beneath I'm fine with it.
It's not falling apart and I use an otterbox anyhow.
It would be far more realistic to let the phone grow old.... maybe drop it ...crack something let wear take place....so it looks legit... have a good reason to get an exchange/assurion claim.
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Can you post a photo of the gap? I'm scared of getting one with more problems though
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I don't know about T-Mobile, but I know many international customers have gotten warranty exchanges because of gaps. If the gap is big enough that it bothers you, ask for an exchange. It is definitely ridiculous on some units I've seen.
About charge times, it charges normally up to about 90% then slows down much more than most phones. I think it's very well-implemented given the totally non-repairable nature of the phone. I just finished charging an hour ago, and it charged from about 30% to 90% in under 2 hours, then spent another hour going from 90% to 100%. It's much better to charge slowly at the high end and preserve the health of the battery. Also most people probably know this, but charging over USB from a computer is much, much slower than using a wall charger (and wall chargers vary in power output as well).
Can I just go in a T-Mobile store and ask for an exchange for the small gap? & they'll replace it?
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Greetings to all the XDA community. I felt like i had a bunch of different problems with my new HTC One, that encompassed a few different threads, so i was wondering if Im the only one with such problems. If any of you had experienced one or all of these problems please let me know what you did to fix them. I appreciate your input, first time HTC owner here
1. Battery life very very subpar. Charged it for 4hours out of the box before using the first time, battery fell from 100 to 20 in 5 hrs of regular use.
2. Battery charge time is terrible. Takes 3 hours to go from 30% to 95%.
3 Wifi scan range is horrible. My Note 2 picked up 2 bars of wifi in my room, while the One cant even connect. Sitting 10ft from the Router, bars keep fluctuating from 4(max) to 1, sticking to 2 bars mostly. I dont want to burn through my cellular data allowance atleast at home.
4 Camera resolution in very average, I know its only 4 "ultrapixel", but it could be muh sharper even with that.
5 and ofcourse, the legendary capacitive buttons, especially the Back button. Unresponsive half the time, responsive after 3 soft touched (and one frustrated one). I dont mind them lighting off at times, but the unresponsiveness is unacceptable.
The build is gorgeous, no problems anywhere. The speakers are just awesome. The phone feels amazing in hand. But if i cant get wifi in my own house, and the buttons keep being so stubborn, i cant spend 2 days with that, let alone 2 years. Am i being too picky here?I hope so, cuz i REALLY love this phone for its PROs.
Please let me know what you guys think!! Thanks!!
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I am having the exact same problem as you (#5 above) with the capacitive buttons. The Back button doesn't respond half the time. It is really frustrating. The Home button too respond especially when double tapping to bring up the recent apps list it doesn't respond like half the time. I thought maybe it was a software issue. I guess it's a defective device then?
I have read that the buttons can be fixed through a software update by htc, though I have no idea when tmobile might push it out. For people in Europe with the same problem, they claim the OTA fixed it.
If that's the only problem you have, it may be with waiting for the ota or a custom rom with fixes.
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Can I just go in a T-Mobile store and ask for an exchange for the small gap? & they'll replace it?
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Would you actually return the phone cause of a gap?
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Would you actually return the phone cause of a gap?
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Well it is advertised as zero gap
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As long as u are covered under buyers remorse, they will take a return and give u a brand new phone for whatever reason, or so they have told me over and over..call the place u got it from and find out how long you have got till that remorse period ends
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As long as u are covered under buyers remorse, they will take a return and give u a brand new phone for whatever reason, or so they have told me over and over..call the place u got it from and find out how long you have got till that remorse period ends
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They will replace it if they even have anymore in the store. Most stores are completely out of it
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I got mine online, so im not sure of in store availability.
Thanks to each and everyone for your valuable advice and experiences. After countless hours of online research and tech support, I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people are having a at least one issue out of the box with their phone. HTC seems to have rushed this phone into the market in an effort to beat the S4 in timing, but in doing so they have caused quite a few quality control issues with undoubtedly the best smartphone at this time.
I bought a S4 to compare side by side before I made my decision, and after days of deliberation it seems that the One is superior to the S4 only in the flawless design and excellent speakers. This is purely my opinion, but after putting them side by side in my room, and seeing full wifi bars on my s4 and the one struggling to get just one, I must with heavy heart return my One. I came from a note 2, looking for a 1080p display and connectivity for my media consumption, and HTC could only provide one (pun unintended).
With all of you struggling with issues with your phones, good luck. I guess I'm staying samsung for now.
My older HTC One X also has poor wifi in my house. My iPad picks up signal great in my house but the minute I start walking away from my wifi router the HTC One X drops connection. Seems like wifi reception is not their strong point in all their smartphones.