I'm using a GSM Canadian Droid RAZR purchased from Fido, running on the Virgin Mobile network. (Yeah, its complicated.)
System Version:
651.167.3331.XT910.Fido.en.CA
Android Version
2.3.6
I've been waiting all this time for the Verizon update, but only realized a week ago that Verizon is CDMA, and theres no chance I'll get it on my Fido branded RAZR.
What should I do to get ICS?
I hear there are China/LATAM versions of ICS, but I have a few questions about these:
1) Will there be any negative effects of using these builds on a Canadian network?
2) What languages are supported by these builds?
3) Would I be able to flash onto a FIDO version of ICS if that day ever comes?
Or should I attempt to flash onto an AOSP/AOKP based ICS? (I really hate the Moto bloatware).
Thanks in advance.
I am really incredibly confused right now.
I'm on the LATAM ICS. I have a rogers razr (on Telus), and it works great. I don't think you'll mind the bloatware as much as you think - they've really toned it down (and I HATE bloatware).
Hope that helps, I know I was confused for a while, but took the leap, and have loved every minute of ICS since I did.
I'm going to need to flash a latin american retail ROM right?
Yup, first you need to flash a GB LATAM rom. Then you're good to go to upgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696459
Also on a Canadian Razr, using Rogers... How orignal. Latam roms are not much different from the stock roms we have, love ICS and have no problems or slow downs or had to reboot. Check the thread above, PM any questions.
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I'm on Rogers xt910
Any chance we'll get it this week? Rogers never communicates anything...
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i want to buy a verizon droid razr in u.s that have english and espanol language support only for my cousin but i need it to be with italian language support ,so i was i asking my self can i flash the verizon razr with an unbranded Eu rom that have ita language support and if yes will it be in 100% working order after the flash or i might experience some problematics ie gsm reception, slower gps fixes or else
thanks
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Doing that will brick the phone.
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Doing that will brick the phone.
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Yep, it will.
The EU rom is for the EU phone. The Verizon phone is different in several ways, and it is not compatible. Besides that, the Verizon RAZR isn't even GSM compatible at this point. It's CDMA/LTE only right now, so you couldn't get it working natively on any network in Europe anyway.
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Yep, it will.
The EU rom is for the EU phone. The Verizon phone is different in several ways, and it is not compatible. Besides that, the Verizon RAZR isn't even GSM compatible at this point. It's CDMA/LTE only right now, so you couldn't get it working natively on any network in Europe anyway.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_razr_xt912-4101.php
what are you talking about,in the link above they say its gsm
are you guys sure you are giving me correct information about what i am asking?
if i should brick my phone with this process can i recover and go back with the original firmware unbrcking it?
That link is wrong. If you buy an XT912 Droid RAZR, you will have a very expensive paperweight. You need an XT910. There is no GSM support on the XT912. It has the hardware for both CDMA & GSM, but the GSM portion is disabled just like on the Droid Bionic. And no, due to Motorola kernel signatures and partition sizes, the stock ROMs are not cross-compatible.
Feel free not to believe us, it's your money.
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onslaught86 said:
That link is wrong. If you buy an XT912 Droid RAZR, you will have a very expensive paperweight. You need an XT910. There is no GSM support on the XT912. It has the hardware for both CDMA & GSM, but the GSM portion is disabled just like on the Droid Bionic. And no, due to Motorola kernel signatures and partition sizes, the stock ROMs are not cross-compatible.
Feel free not to believe us, it's your money.
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what about motorola pro the verizon one and photon are they also without gsm?
You will not brick it simple you cant flash it with rds due signature mistmatch unless you have a unlocket bootloader.
droid pro was hacked by TBH i think. gsm radio was hacked and then it was working with tmobile/att.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/11/17/verizon-blocking-att-gsm-bands-on-droid-2-global/
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what about motorola pro the verizon one and photon are they also without gsm?
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Photon works just fine, it was designed to be a dual mode CDMA/GSM device from the start. No 900mhz UMTS with the Photon, though (And USSD codes don't work).
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hondasr said:
You will not brick it simple you cant flash it with rds due signature mistmatch unless you have a unlocket bootloader.
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you are talking about xt912?so it actually have a sim slot,if yes,unlolcked bootloader is a different thing than entering a code for unlocking the phone i suppose . . .
i still havent got the xt912 ,but i found this guide,will it work for the xt912 too in your opinion?
http://droidsky.blogspot.it/2012/03/tutorial-unlock-bootloader-of-xperia-x8.html
sewershark said:
you are talking about xt912?so it actually have a sim slot,if yes,unlolcked bootloader is a different thing than entering a code for unlocking the phone i suppose . . .
i still havent got the xt912 ,but i found this guide,will it work for the xt912 too in your opinion?
http://droidsky.blogspot.it/2012/03/tutorial-unlock-bootloader-of-xperia-x8.html
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The SIM slot in the XT912 is for LTE, not GSM.. And 100% no to the "Will the X8 bootloader unlock work" question. Sony Ericsson are a completely different kettle of fish to Motorola. We've just spent months waiting while Kholk and the Eternity Project devs worked on a bypass, the bootloaders currently cannot be unlocked and likely never will be unless Motorola feel charitable.
I hate to say it, but you seriously need to do a lot more research before you waste your money on a CDMA phone that is no use to anyone outside the USA.
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ok then i wont buy the xt910 because its too expensive,neither the xt912 because it wont work
i am going to consider the htc vivid ,lg nitro or atrix 2
is there a way to recocnize any gsm/almost gsm american phone that will not work in europe without asking each time in forums?maybe there is some kind of updated list somewhere . . .i always bought gsm phones from ebay u.s and they always worked ,guess i had been lucky till now
good news guys. Verizon is gonna unlock the gSM bands on droid razr. xt912.
can't wait!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/verizon-purportedly-giving-droid-4-razr-and-rezound-global-de/
Like many Canadians today, I was happy to finally receive my official update to ICS. Actually, I was happier the day before when I learned that Google had released source code for ICS on our phone. Like many, I had intended to jump into the custom rom scene after the marvelous Devs in these forums have had a chance to cook up roms in a fully stocked kitchen.
Should Canadians be concerned that the official baseband, modems, kernals for ICS bear different identifiers than the AT&T ones?
I have always been concerned that there doesn't seem to be a dedicated forum for Canadian carrier Galaxy Notes. Until now, I have bought into the idea that all North American Galaxy Notes are the same hardware. This diversion in modem naming has me concerned.
I would eventually like my Bell Mobility Note to have a rom that has all the S pen functionality of stock with some of the upgraded Voice features from the S3. Most importantly, I need it to work flawlessly with the LTE network in the Toronto area.
I had high hopes for team perfections rom but recent developments have me wondering if it's future development will be AT&T centric....
I'm on a rogers note in Vancouver and i've run many different roms with at&t modems fine. It comes down to your APN settings but i'm currently running the June 28th version and it's been very solid. I've tried 3 different at&t modems over the last month and had no issues with speed on LTE.
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I'm on a rogers note in Vancouver and i've run many different roms with at&t modems fine. It comes down to your APN settings but i'm currently running the June 28th version and it's been very solid. I've tried 3 different at&t modems over the last month and had no issues with speed on LTE.
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Thanks for the reply... Do you find that you have to set the APN settings each time you flash a new rom?
I'm sure it's too early for someone to have had a look yet, but is there a way for Devs to see what differences there are, if any, between the Canadian carrier modem and the US ones?
I too am concerned. My biggest issue is wanting to use bells mobiletv app. All custom roms do not allow the app to work properly. My apn settings are direct to bell. So for now i ride my newly loaded stock until something magical comes about!
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bklam said:
I'm on a rogers note in Vancouver and i've run many different roms with at&t modems fine. It comes down to your APN settings. . .
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Carrier tweaks are nice but usually there's a work around within a few days of a new rom.
Modem-shmodem it's an SGS modem not an at&t modem and it is interchangable with all galaxy-s phones with the same radio chip.
Well, I think we have a bigger problem with the changes made to the bootloader on the Canadian ICS update. It seems that getting root and CWM is proving more problematic for us than US users because the recovery module keeps being over written each time we boot..
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Well, I think we have a bigger problem with the changes made to the bootloader on the Canadian ICS update. It seems that getting root and CWM is proving more problematic for us than US users because the recovery module keeps being over written each time we boot..
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That's exactly my case. Can't flash CWM it won't stick after reverting back to stock Bell and updating to ICS.
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Had no problems with the Rogers update. CWM took and SU installed the very first time. Have had many reboots and all is fine.
So I am leaving Montana for south Korea soon and was pretty excited to learn that my Rezound is global capable. The only thing is I am unsure if it will work on a Korean SIM card, or how to do so. I am s-off running the first leaked ics ruu. Do I need to ruu to the global firmware? Or will any gsm capable roms work without a firmware update? Also, if there's any one out there who has been to south Korea and could give me some tips on providers to choose from it would be appreciated.
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You need to install the official Global RUU, leaks can be problematic because they prevent you from getting OTAs on stock rom and may not be the latest, most stable software.
I think there have been like 2 official firmware upgrades and several leaks between what you are running and global.
You do need a GSM enabled ROM, and one that is based on the global firmware. Simplicity or Newts One XXX 5.08 may be good options for you if u want to stick with a Sense ROM.
You may still need to call Verizon re: international calling, although I wouldn't mention I was rooted.
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brenuga said:
You need to install the official Global RUU, leaks can be problematic because they prevent you from getting OTAs on stock rom and may not be the latest, most stable software.
I think there have been like 2 official firmware upgrades and several leaks between what you are running and global.
You do need a GSM enabled ROM, and one that is based on the global firmware. Simplicity or Newts One XXX 5.08 may be good options for you if u want to stick with a Sense ROM.
You may still need to call Verizon re: international calling, although I wouldn't mention I was rooted.
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Thanks for helping. I was a little unclear in my original post however; I actually am running Newts One XXX 5.1.0 currently (awesome by the way). What I am wondering though is this; will the fact that I am not on the global firmware mean that I will need to RUU update in order to get service with a South Korean provider. I do not plan on trying to remain with Verizon as I will be in South Korea for more than a year.
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You will have to ruu to global firmware to obtain global radios to work with the global Rom
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rezound in rok
I'm also heading to the rok and hoping to use my rezound. I'm on stock ics ota. I'm going to see what I get on a stock rom before I do any unofficial releases, but I expect to drop SMS capabilities or maybe data like you see in the states with a T-Mobile sim in. I arrive in Korea on the 31st so I'll update sometime late next week and let you know. I've been to Korea before and I believe we will have to go with SK Telecom as our carrier because it is the only GSM network. The other networks are cdma to the best of my knowledge. Hopefully my next update will be from my phone on a Korean network!
Rezound in South Korea update
In Korea now. I just flashed my phone from a stock OTA ICS, unrooted, s-on over to the Global RUU found on Androidpolice.
I have tried to buy just a sim card from several stores, SK, KT Olleh etc, and the stores all say that I have to go to the headquarters stores located in Seoul, Yongsan Train Station on the top floor. Apparently this is the ONLY way to get a sim for a global phone, other than having a korean national get one for you and give it to you. This weekend I will be going to the headquarters stores and getting a sim, Other problems you may run into are related to being a foreigner in Korea. They will sometimes not want to sell you a phone on a contract because you as a foreigner could disappear at any time without paying the bill. So, they will try to get you to buy prepaid. I don't want to deal with prepaid anything, but that may be a viable option to get a SIM card easily. Just buy a reallllly cheap prepaid phone that has a sim in it, pull the sim and throw it in your global enabled device. Unless you speak Korean, navigating to the headquarters and getting what you want may prove a bit difficult. Fortunately, I do speak Korean, so I will let you know how it goes.
I will update again once I actually have a Sim in my phone!
Thanks for the valuable information so far. I will be arriving there at the end of November and am looking forward to hearing more about how It's going for you there.
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got a sim, no data!
Finally got a sim from KT Olleh today. The girl at the counter didn't believe me that the phone would work, but I got her to do it anyway. By the way, don't try to set up service for a phone anywhere in Korea on a weekend. They cannot activate a new phone unless its a weekday. So anyway, got it all setup and the girl sits there and plays with my phone for a while without saying anything to me. Then she tells me that the calling and texting is fine but the phone won't get a data signal. I asked her to set the APN, and she said she did. I checked it out and she had put in the KT APN as alwayson.ktfwing.com Looks right to me, and she seemed to know what she was doing for the most part. Then she started to go on about how Korea runs on CDMA for the most part and not GSM yadda yadda.
So, I have a Rezound, working for incoming and outgoing calls and text on KT Olleh, but no data signal at all. I might repost a similar message in another forum topic to see if any gurus have any advice on how to get it working. Also going to do some more research. I'm new to this but there is tons of information out there. I will post again once I have resolution or give up and buy a new phone!
PS Phones in korea can be REALLY expensive. Dropped 850 on my wifes LG phablet (optimus VU2)!!! Equivalent to the instinct in the states I think?
didn't flash twice
So, I am a phone noob, and did a lot of reading last night. Saw that most people flash rezounds twice anytime putting on new firmware etc. I think I will try that tonight and see if I pick up the data signal.
The ruu's generally need to be flashed twice. However I did not need to do so going to the global, the ruu automatically took care of everything.
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website for kt olleh
Some helpful information that KT Olleh has to say about using a non-korean phone in Korea.
http://expatblog.kt.com/71
The rezound may not have the radio frequency that network uses. That would be the main problem as to why you aren't picking up data.
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jonezj said:
Some helpful information that KT Olleh has to say about using a non-korean phone in Korea.
I am currently in Seoul and have rented an Evergreen Mobile Sim Card that works on KT Olleh's network. I am curious as to whether you were ever able to get your Rezound to work with their Data network, and if so, how? Mine works with Olleh Wifi for free but will not even recognize the 3G, despite my having changed the APN settings, and even going to the Evergreen Mobile office in Yeoksa-dong today (they said they couldn't get it to work after an hour of fiddling with it themselves).
Suggestions? Do I have to root?
Oh, and the link in your above post has expired. Could you summarize what KT said?
Thanks!
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Alright, so I'm not new to Moto android devices. I'm currently stuck with a regional carrier (nTelos), and I had a few questions before I upgrade.
My choices are narrow, but they updated their devices not too long ago when I last checked, and the Razr Maxx was one of the choices I can upgrade to.
My main question is this. My carrier doesn't support LTE, and on my Droid X I was fine when I flashed roms to it, because none of them touched the radio, so I was alright to use the roms that were really made for Verizon phones. I know for a fact however that the LTE radio has been either removed/disabled in the variant of the Razr I will be picking up, so I am wondering if I flash to an AOKP build once I pick up my Razr if it will touch my radio and mess with the configuration? I may be asking kind of a dumb question, but it's a big thing for me because I go to college out of state, and I'd have to ship the phone back and be phoneless for up to a week.
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DamienFox said:
Alright, so I'm not new to Moto android devices. I'm currently stuck with a regional carrier (nTelos), and I had a few questions before I upgrade.
My choices are narrow, but they updated their devices not too long ago when I last checked, and the Razr Maxx was one of the choices I can upgrade to.
My main question is this. My carrier doesn't support LTE, and on my Droid X I was fine when I flashed roms to it, because none of them touched the radio, so I was alright to use the roms that were really made for Verizon phones. I know for a fact however that the LTE radio has been either removed/disabled in the variant of the Razr I will be picking up, so I am wondering if I flash to an AOKP build once I pick up my Razr if it will touch my radio and mess with the configuration? I may be asking kind of a dumb question, but it's a big thing for me because I go to college out of state, and I'd have to ship the phone back and be phoneless for up to a week.
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anyone?
I don't think it'll make much of a difference, XT912 as well has a few roms, the radio will be untouched if you are installing any custom roms.
I'm not sure if it will affect your radio. Make sure you backup your stock rom. If you use Safestrap, you'll be able to basically install other roms on top of your stock rom, so if your new rom doesn't work, you should just be able to quickly switch back to your stock rom by rebooting your phone. Additionally, it's probably worth mentioning that in the roms I've tried, there are options to change which types of networks you connect to, and if you're concerned, you could just tell your phone not to connect to LTE/4G (assuming the radio still works... I don't know much about how that works, but I think your phone would still work fine).
I'm mostly a one banana programmer (i.e. 'Q: How hard is it? A:Give a monkey one banana'). Occasionally I rise to two bananas. Rarely do I get to three.
Much to my chagrin, I accepted the 2.3.5 Photon 4g OTA update (hey--it was running like $hit! and I was hopeful). (Four years ago I got my first blackberry 8330 to work with the Anworm hack, so command lines and javaloader don't intimidate me. Long I.T. systems experience has made me a deeply respectful believer in backups. Oh yeah...I got Google Calender to work on a rooted Nook Tablet, and simply too).
Since 2.3.5 OTA made the Photon 4g run even worse, I rooted it--and donated, installed Titanium Backup and by shutting down enough Moto/Sprint bloatware and installing Holo Launcher have gotten the phone to work ok.
Now I've taken the pledge--no more cell phone contracts. Several months ago I used the phone in Mexico with a Telcel GSM SIM and it worked great. By that I mean smoothly and fast.
I'd like to to use it here with AT&T or T-Mobile, but after reading 57 pages in the GSM-KDDI radio thread it's unclear if the GSM KDDI radio method will work with my setup: 2.3.5 Rooted but bootloader still locked.
Thanks in advance!
yes, KDDI will flash on 2.3.5, and there is a thread about it only 4 below your topic.
findthedr said:
yes, KDDI will flash on 2.3.5, and there is a thread about it only 4 below your topic.
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