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I use adownloader for all my torrent downloads, its actually a nice app. But ran across a problem this morning when trying to download a 7gb file. I get a message stating android does not support downloads of files larger than 4 gb.... Is there a way around this limitation?????
it is a limitation of the fat32 sd card. Can't have files larger than 4gb. So the app is probably hardcoded to not let you download it. But I hope you aren't torrenting over LTE... that is the reason people like me are stuck with tiered plans.
con247 said:
it is a limitation of the fat32 sd card. Can't have files larger than 4gb. So the app is probably hardcoded to not let you download it. But I hope you aren't torrenting over LTE... that is the reason people like me are stuck with tiered plans.
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Not to be argumentative, but no it's not. Verizon's just greedy. They're still making money hand over fist from unlimited users.
What do you need a 7gb file on your phone for anyway. And as far as the data hog thing goes whether its the main reason or not it definitely doesn't help, and yeah what can your phone possibly do with a 7gb file, unless its a 5 hour movie you are abusing your data.
I've have unlimited data and I don't think using it anyway I want to is abuse. Sucks for you if you signed up for a tiered plan lol. But the amount of data I consume isn't what this thread was posted about...
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Not to be argumentative, but no it's not. Verizon's just greedy. They're still making money hand over fist from unlimited users.
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Actually, it is. It costs roughly $5 to send a gig of data over wireless data networks when customer care, backhaul, electricity, etc are all taken into account. That means that anyone who uses over 7gb of data on their phone is costing the carrier money. That usually isn't an issue. Most people probably pay around $30 a month for data and use about a gig maybe two. So the carrier makes $25. But then there are the jerks who pull down 80gb/month on wireless ruins it for everyone because they cost the carrier $370.
source: whitepages at signalresearch.com
voice and texting are what the carrier makes money on. So if everyone switched to google voice and voip solutions therefore dropping to the lowest minute plans without texting, data costs would skyrocket.
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Actually, it is. It costs roughly $5 to send a gig of data over wireless data networks when customer care, backhaul, electricity, etc are all taken into account. That means that anyone who uses over 7gb of data on their phone is costing the carrier money. That usually isn't an issue. Most people probably pay around $30 a month for data and use about a gig maybe two. So the carrier makes $25. But then there are the jerks who pull down 80gb/month on wireless ruins it for everyone because they cost the carrier $370.
source: whitepages at signalresearch.com
voice and texting are what the carrier makes money on. So if everyone switched to google voice and voip solutions therefore dropping to the lowest minute plans without texting, data costs would skyrocket.
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Got a link? Genuinely curious.
But let's do the math--the average user data/month is 435 megabytes. Using your 5 dollars/GB figure, which seems totally plausible, that means that on average Verizon is making ~27.50 in profit per user, whether they're capped at 2gb or unlimited.
This is based on AT&T's figures, but apparently their remaining unlimited data group comprises a 5% that uses more than 2gb a month. That means that 95% of their users are making AT LEAST 20 dollars in profit, if the demographics for Verizon comport with AT&T's, because they use less than 2GB. (30 dollars- 2GB x 5 dollars)
That means Verizon is making money absolutely hand over fist. The average of 435mb includes my mom's iphone, which uses maybe 5 MB a month, and that jerk for tethers 80gb. The 5mb a month crowd massively outweighs the 80gb a month crowd.
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I feel like people use either 0-4gb or like 50+gb. So if the average person uses 2GB, but someone else uses 50gb, it takes the "profit" from 11 2GB users to cancel him out.
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I feel like people use either 0-4gb or like 50+gb. So if the average person uses 2GB, but someone else uses 50gb, it takes the "profit" from 11 2GB users to cancel him out.
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The average is 435 megabytes a month.
On att right? You use more data on LTE doing the same things. I used to use 500mb/month on my 3G phone. Now I hit 2GB doing the same activities each month because I can consume way more web pages in the same amount of time. Att probably did that study on their 3G network
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On att right? You use more data on LTE doing the same things. I used to use 500mb/month on my 3G phone. Now I hit 2GB doing the same activities each month because I can consume way more web pages in the same amount of time. Att probably did that study on their 3G network
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Actually I was wrong, it's a bit higher now:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/249532/smartphone_data_shakeup_the_end_of_unlimited.html
According to The Nielsen Company, the average per-user data consumption by U.S. smartphone customers was 606.1MB -- or about 0.59GB -- per month in the third quarter of 2011 (the most recent period for which measurements were available).
So that's for all Americans who use smartphones.
The average data use doubled in one year too... wow. So average $22 in profit on someone who uses average. But for someone who uses 50, it still takes 10 people if you are counting $25 average spent on data. At verizon we pay 30, but people on att either pay $25 or $15 so it is probably close to $25 average.
con247 said:
The average data use doubled in one year too... wow. So average $22 in profit on someone who uses average. But for someone who uses 50, it still takes 10 people if you are counting $25 average spent on data. At verizon we pay 30, but people on att either pay $25 or $15 so it is probably close to $25 average.
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Yep. But remember, according to those figures only 1% of users use more than 4.5gb. It still takes 6 gigs of data for Verizon to take a loss on you. So we're already talking about a fraction of 1% that Verizon might be taking a loss on. Their pricing models are designed to maximize profit, but even with unlimited data and current usage patterns it'd be damn hard for them to lose money.
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On att right? You use more data on LTE doing the same things. I used to use 500mb/month on my 3G phone. Now I hit 2GB doing the same activities each month because I can consume way more web pages in the same amount of time. Att probably did that study on their 3G network
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Didn't at&t already come out and say that people are using double the data they were a year ago?
But I have to agree, if the storage can't handle that big of a file, maybe better to do it on a computer anyway.
Sounds like someone is jealous of those with unlimited data.
Your argument would be like this. You buy a car that engine power can only do 45 MPH. I buy a car that can do 80 MPH. Speed limit on the highway is 80 MPH. Because you cannot do 80 MPH you think I should have to drive 45 MPH. I payed for something you didn't. It isn't my fault your on tiered data. It is the fact that the wireless industry in this country is broken.
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Sounds like someone is jealous of those with unlimited data.
Your argument would be like this. You buy a car that engine power can only do 45 MPH. I buy a car that can do 80 MPH. Speed limit on the highway is 80 MPH. Because you cannot do 80 MPH you think I should have to drive 45 MPH. I payed for something you didn't. It isn't my fault your on tiered data. It is the fact that the wireless industry in this country is broken.
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You are sorta correct. I really don't care about unlimited data. 4GB is plenty for me to never need wifi. And when I do need wifi, well, my sigpic you can see that that my school's ISP is plenty fast lol. To the point, your analogy is a bit off. It would be more like getting my amount of gas limited so I couldn't drive as fast. LTE phones are like fast cars... I have one, you have one, but since some of us have our gas limited we can't drive full speed all the time even if we are capable of doing so and want to.
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Sounds like someone is jealous of those with unlimited data.
Your argument would be like this. You buy a car that engine power can only do 45 MPH. I buy a car that can do 80 MPH. Speed limit on the highway is 80 MPH. Because you cannot do 80 MPH you think I should have to drive 45 MPH. I payed for something you didn't. It isn't my fault your on tiered data. It is the fact that the wireless industry in this country is broken.
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I can see his point. As Verizon switches all devices over to LTE (they have said no more 3g smartphone) and the networks gets more congested, I expect them to start throttling the unlimited users.
There has already been talk of data plans becoming speed based instead of data limits the way wired internet plans are.
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You are sorta correct. I really don't care about unlimited data. 4GB is plenty for me to never need wifi. And when I do need wifi, well, my sigpic you can see that that my school's ISP is plenty fast lol. To the point, your analogy is a bit off. It would be more like getting my amount of gas limited so I couldn't drive as fast. LTE phones are like fast cars... I have one, you have one, but since some of us have our gas limited we can't drive full speed all the time even if we are capable of doing so and want to.
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Ok ill agree with yours. Been up 32 hours so the old thinker is a little slow. Haha.
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I can see his point. As Verizon switches all devices over to LTE (they have said no more 3g smartphone) and the networks gets more congested, I expect them to start throttling the unlimited users.
There has already been talk of data plans becoming speed based instead of data limits the way wired internet plans are.
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I don't think the contract says anything about being able to cap 4g speeds for those of us with unlimited data. 3g yes because it is capped at 5 regardless. Mobile broadband cards contracts for LTE list a 5GB cap on unlimited. Cellphones contracts do not. If I remember correctly.
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I don't think the contract says anything about being able to cap 4g speeds for those of us with unlimited data. 3g yes because it is capped at 5 regardless. Mobile broadband cards contracts for LTE list a 5GB cap on unlimited. Cellphones contracts do not. If I remember correctly.
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no, but all mobile contracts have fair use policies that leave a lot of gray area. I think in the next 2 years after most everyone is on lte, the data landscape will look much different.
Shoot, I still remember waiting forever for skyfire to stream video to my moto q9c...
I was tryin to switch over to rogers this afternoon...
All their lte plans for the note have only 200 minutes yes you can double them (tho it still not enough for me) and there is no more then 3gb data plan ... I mean what a rip off . If i want an lte device (even paying full price) i cant get 800 talk time and 5gb + for it
What plans you guys got ??
Granted this not 100% device related but im so pissed right now.
Edit : i currently pay 90 for 6gb and 100% talk / messages unlimited
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whoa eithr they are very few rogers users or nobody feels my pain ,,,,
Actually its a bit misleading. The standard 6GB plan that rogers has for $30 is LTE compatible its just that not all reps realize it OR just want to charge you an arm and a leg for a LTE specific plan.
I signed up for the 6GB data plan years ago when they just came out with it, and when I called them they just had to remove my old 6GB plan and add the new 6GB plan. No price difference and although it doesn't say anything about LTE on their end, LTE does indeed work on my Note. I had a friend with a SGS2 do the same thing over the weekend. I remember reading somewhere that any new data plan is technically LTE compatible but I can't find the link so don't quote me on that, but I can assure you this one works.
Here's the link on Howardforums with the discussion about it. SoC codes are buried somewhere in there too.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1742420-Great-news-30-6Gb-is-back!
Right now I have the new my10 canada wide plan (incl. unlimited messaging), standard voicemail package and 6GB of data for about $86 a month. All standard plans so you don't have to go through retentions or strike some kind of deal.
Hopefully that helps a bit
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Actually its a bit misleading. The standard 6GB plan that rogers has for $30 is LTE compatible its just that not all reps realize it OR just want to charge you an arm and a leg for a LTE specific plan.
I signed up for the 6GB data plan years ago when they just came out with it, and when I called them they just had to remove my old 6GB plan and add the new 6GB plan. No price difference and although it doesn't say anything about LTE on their end, LTE does indeed work on my Note. I had a friend with a SGS2 do the same thing over the weekend. I remember reading somewhere that any new data plan is technically LTE compatible but I can't find the link so don't quote me on that, but I can assure you this one works.
Here's the link on Howardforums with the discussion about it. SoC codes are buried somewhere in there too.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1742420-Great-news-30-6Gb-is-back!
Right now I have the new my10 canada wide plan (incl. unlimited messaging), standard voicemail package and 6GB of data for about $86 a month. All standard plans so you don't have to go through retentions or strike some kind of deal.
Hopefully that helps a bit
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So does that mean you are paying $30 for 6GB of LTE data?
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Yep, $30 for 6GB LTE
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Thx guys i finally nailed something decent obly 2gb but i can swap to 6gb/30 if i want to ... As you said different rep different song got a good one he gave me plenty of deals/bonus..
My note is in the mail.. Not sure if you guys seen, my ports/mods but its official i will be deving for this beast
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I see this post is a little old but i got 10GB for $50. And then I use dell voice if i need to use a lot of minutes. Dell voice uses 1mb per minute. Hope this helps!
Just purchased a US T-Mobile Flyer. I can tether it to my AT&T phone but the idea was to get off AT&T congested network in airports and in my travels. What is the best option on prepaid plans to go with on T-Mobile? They have a $30 1GB plan but that seems high for the amount of data. Has anyone had any success using the $30 5GB Walmart plan or any other cell plan that gives more data? Thanks in advance.
there's a $30/mo no contract plan that includes 5GB of High Speed Data + 100 minutes. Anything over 5GB gets throttled but at least you won't pay overage fees
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
Will Evo-view work on T-mobil?
Didnt think you could use phones/tabs on other carriers.
But hope Im wrong, thats not a bad deal
theSavant said:
there's a $30/mo no contract plan that includes 5GB of High Speed Data + 100 minutes. Anything over 5GB gets throttled but at least you won't pay overage fees
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
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Will T-Mobile let me put the Flyer on this plan? I went to one store and they told me I had to use a tablet plan.
Greetings!
I pay $20/month for 1gb of data. If you call Sprint sales to activate, they'll waive the $36 activation fee. I was also able to get them to sell me the stylus pen for $40 w/free shipping. Granted, you're signing up for a 2-year contract but what I did to off-set that was use my upgrade to buy an iPhone which I plan on selling on selling to recoup my cost.
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How is Simple Mobile on ur att Note?
im really thinking of changing to them since i pay almost 100$ a month for ATT and i only have 450 mins and 3gb of data
i see they have 40 and 50 a month unlimited plans... how the speed on the 40$ a month vs 50$ a month on ur note?
who do they use for towers? T-Mobile or ATT?
and does anyone have them in Honolulu? whats ur average speed?
Mahalo
Speeds vary in different areas and they run on T-Mobiles towers on there up to 42 HSPA+. I'm cool here in so cal with my t989 but then again its a 42hspa device not that I'll ever come close but my vids never buffer no more than a second. I get about 10 Mbps. The plan is worth it though 50$ (they lowered it from 60$) for unlimited talk text and 2gb of 4g data. T-Mobile was charging me 60$ for the same plan so I switched. Sounds to me like ur on a ripoff plan and if I was u I would switch. Over 100$ is way too much
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ya im ready to switch i really dont use my phone that much at all so i dont see a point in my wasting 100$ a month for att
ill have to check there speed out here then and i might just end up swtiching
I just switched from 4gb to 10gb data for a few dollars more. They have a special going on for the 10gb. $100 +15 each line. Att rocks
I live in a Major metropolitan area.
I pay 70 bucks a month for T-Mobile which is comparable to ATT here (Phoenix area which is big for T-MO).
I get unlimited everything with no throttling. Last month I used about 10GB w/o a hiccup (I may have been going ROM crazy and bypassing all the WIFI restrictions on downloads since I was at work...lol). ROM - LOAD - TEST FOR 2 DAYS - WIPE - NEW ROM - LOAD - REPEAT
T-MO wins.
digitard said:
I live in a Major metropolitan area.
I pay 70 bucks a month for T-Mobile which is comparable to ATT here (Phoenix area which is big for T-MO).
I get unlimited everything with no throttling. Last month I used about 10GB w/o a hiccup (I may have been going ROM crazy and bypassing all the WIFI restrictions on downloads since I was at work...lol). ROM - LOAD - TEST FOR 2 DAYS - WIPE - NEW ROM - LOAD - REPEAT
T-MO wins.
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Well here in hawaii ill walk into a safeway grocery store and i wont have even signal for calls... i mean none. Make a call and nothing. I gave tmobile up for att. I get 35mb/s and reception almost everywhere. Here att wins
digitard said:
I live in a Major metropolitan area.
I pay 70 bucks a month for T-Mobile which is comparable to ATT here (Phoenix area which is big for T-MO).
I get unlimited everything with no throttling. Last month I used about 10GB w/o a hiccup (I may have been going ROM crazy and bypassing all the WIFI restrictions on downloads since I was at work...lol). ROM - LOAD - TEST FOR 2 DAYS - WIPE - NEW ROM - LOAD - REPEAT
T-MO wins.
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Great. Nobody cares. He was talking about ATT. Relevance: People on ATT. Move on.
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Great. Nobody cares. He was talking about ATT. Relevance: People on ATT. Move on.
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Haha thanks man you post some news for att customers and somebody bombs it with another carrier.
podagee said:
I just switched from 4gb to 10gb data for a few dollars more. They have a special going on for the 10gb. $100 +15 each line. Att rocks
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Yeah, I've been debating on moving to this plan since it rolled out. I currently have the unlimited data plan, 700 minutes to share between two phones with a rollover bank of about 7000 minutes since we rarely use more than a hundred combined, and unlimited texts and mms. I've been hesitant to switch because, while we are generally under 10 gigs, I sometimes get a little data crazy and we reach between 12-15 gigs combined. Do you know what they charge for overages per gig? Also, I assume that includes unlimited calls and texts? TIA for your reply
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bps119 said:
Yeah, I've been debating on moving to this plan since it rolled out. I currently have the unlimited data plan, 700 minutes to share between two phones with a rollover bank of about 7000 minutes since we rarely use more than a hundred combined, and unlimited texts and mms. I've been hesitant to switch because, while we are generally under 10 gigs, I sometimes get a little data crazy and we reach between 12-15 gigs combined. Do you know what they charge for overages per gig? Also, I assume that includes unlimited calls and texts? TIA for your reply
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Overages is $15 a gb if you go over. If you let them know before you go over you can change your plan to higher data for $10 a gig more. Just go with the 10gb. That should be sufficient enough for 2 people. My wife and i have it we are on separate accounts. Just got it today and im happy that i dont have to worry about going over. Plus if you both are on the same contract you save a lot.
I just went from the 4gb plan on FAM share with 2 phones total. Went on the site to see what its about under my account and it showed my contract was 4gb for 150. It showed I could change to 10gb for 130. I definitely don't use near 10 unless I'm away from WiFi and still don't use near 10 but better to be on the safe side. I read all the fine print and hoopla and I saw nothing of extra charges or drawbacks. Took the 10gb and as I see so far a cheaper bill and more gigs. I see win win.
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Aw, I looked to see if I could upgrade my data plan on my ancient non-existent plan and nope. Ah well.
Eventually one of the newer plans might make more sense, but every time I've done the math in the past, it turns out to be more expensive.
This is the mobile share value plan. If you're out of contract or you have your own phone, you get the 15 dollar pricing instead of 40. Its nothing special tbh
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to me its worth it $130 phone bill for 10gb of data. and the data is crazy fast with att. ive measured a friends phone at work with speedtest and he hits 8mb/s on verizon,my old tmobile was at 7mb/s and with att ive hit 40mb/s. thats high speed data. ITS WORTH IT!!
my opinion.